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sexiestharam:
Hope you are aware that you need to have a PGD to qualify for an MBA with an HND qualification?

By and large, PGD and MBA in Nigeria are revenue generation programmes. That's why students are made to pay more than regular Masters.

Aaaaarghmed:
Lol..HND o,Bsc o,no matter as far as your are determined.i have HND and where in worked in Nigeria.some Bsc never even get half of the job.everything na mind,grace and connection.no let anything limit you

i guess you are working with an organisation that believes and offers internal training.

adecz:




You want degree,
go university, SIMPLE🔴🔵🔴


A nurse can never become a
doctor in 100 years unless they
go to medical school.


Even the minimum requirements for
Polytechnics admission is less than that
Universities.

Haba❗️❗️❗️

Please, slow down and find a more reasonable analogy. Nursing is different from medicine. Biz Admin in University is thesame as Biz Admin in a polytechnic. The routes are just different. However, to compare a typist with a Biz Admin graduate (nurse:doctor) is waste of any form of education.

stuffs2002:
Stop being emotional.

The university system is totally different from polytechnic

You're the one being emotional. I'm a university product so why should I be emotionally attached? My degree is from the US and I know in that same US, some people go to colleges. College system is entirely different from university system and they invest very little into researches but they also award degrees.

adecz:
Originally, you needed minimum of
4 credits to enter Polytechnics, while
it was always 5 for universities. It was
students that couldn't make 5 credits
that went to polys.

Private universities are commercial,
profit making businesses. I'm sure some
may even accept 130. What they are
interested in is to give you admission to
enable them harvest your school fees of
over 1million & above.
The more they can admit, the better for
their survival as a business venture.

Which poly accepts 4 credits? Why do you people always lie just to buttress your points?

Even College of Education doesn't accept 4 Credits not to talk of Polytechnics.

ehikwe22:
You're the one being emotional. I'm a university product so why should I be emotionally attached? My degree is from the US and I know in that same US, some people go to colleges. College system is entirely different from university system and they invest very little into researches but they also award degrees.

One of my masters degree in Engineering is from Wichita, Kansas. Do you even know the meaning of IVY league schools? How do you even convince an IVY league that he is equivalent to an HND

Before then I went to a Federal university in northern Nigeria studying engineering and I also attended a federal polytechnic in Nigeria concurrently.

I got a job in the federal polytechnic I graduated from as a lecturer but I declined because I got better options. I can boldly tell you that the curriculum for HND is not the same as University at least for engineering courses.

HND can never and should never be a degree
What they have to do is scrap that useless thing called ND then watch HND become relevant.

sirqeeboi:
That not true even in Nigeria you don't need PGD for MBA Even in first generation university here except for Msc

You are not serious.

Riversstate:
You are the biggest fool on this platform

So someone will do four years in HND, one year compulsory internship and then service and you say BSC big pass

On what grounds?? Ode

Even though the one year industrial training is compulsory, how many Polytechnics still use that criteria?
From the Polytechnic I graduated from in April last year were permitted to reapply for HND immediately September last year

Riversstate:
You do HND for four years, one year compulsory internship and then go for service and you say BSC big pass??

On what ground??

LMAO
So the four years or let me say the two yrs you spent for HND is now five years right?
What do u guys smoke these days?

Do your due diligence before admission. Don't enter first and start complaining later. In Nigeria, a polytechnic degree is not equivalent to a university degree. If you are not aware of that age long fact then you have a personal problem and you should be accused of gross negligence and ignorance.

FreeStuffsNG:
It's particularly strange that NBTE is headed by a Professor yet could attempt to act so brazenly.
He should actually be queried by the Head of Service for such irresponsible behaviour.

This is how chaos of monumental proportions are started in the educational sector and years down the line, it will be another big problem when those with such audio certificates are declared illegal. Even a primary school pupil knows that only universities can give a degree certificate and if a diploma-awarding institution wants to award degree, it either upgrades to a university or transfer the training of her diploma holders to a full fledged university accredited by the NUC.

That Executive Secretary of the NBTE, Professor Idirs Bugaje, must be queried and, if found culpable, sanctioned. Which kind of Professor is this? Check my signature for free stuffs!

Due to your ignorance Mr.
Please be guided that it is not NBTE that will give the said certificate. It is an autonomous foreign universities licensed by the authority in their country so be properly guided.

Go for your top up if you have the resources. No shaking.

PRESS RELEASE:

Top-Up Program Beyond NUC’s Jurisdiction, Says NBTE

The National Board for Technical Education (NBTE) has cleared the air over the proposed Top-Up program in foreign offshore accredited universities for Nigerian HND holders, saying the program is entirely beyond the jurisdiction of the National Universities Commission (NUC).

The Executive Secretary NBTE, Professor Idris Bugaje stated this in a letter to the Hon Minister of Education in response to questions bordering on the newly initiated HND Top-Up Program using offshore credit transfer admission.

According to Bugaje, HND holders who choose to pursue an academic career, at the moment, have no progression path except through the Postgraduate Diploma and anytime they wish to switch to Universities as lecturers after their Ph.D., they are always queried to produce their first degree.

Proffering a lasting solution to the HND–BSc crisis, therefore, Bugaje has implored the Minister to convince President Bola Tinubu to sign the Anti-Dichotomy Bill into law, assuring that it will bring an end to the unwarranted and undeserved discrimination against HND holders in Nigeria.

The ‘top-up’ or ‘credit transfer admissions’ by foreign universities is being mooted as an alternative to the PGD.

According to reports, six Nigerian Universities have shown interest in joining the Top-Up program but the Board has not responded to their request as NUC may not give them approval.

The letter reads in part: “I write to update you on the media response last week of the National Universities Commission (NUC) of Nigeria to an NBTE-initiated progression for HND holders through the Top-Up program in foreign (offshore) accredited universities.

“Only the FME Division of Evaluation and Accreditation has the power to assess the foreign degrees (not NUC) after the students have graduated and may seek that.

“NBTE only provides HND Curricula content for credit mapping and eventual credit transfer admissions. The admissions are done by foreign universities and their Senates make awards of degrees not NBTE. In fact, the entire process is designed to operate seamlessly without NBTE.

“NBTE also has no financial benefit in the whole exercise though we requested low tuition of a maximum of about 10% of regular fees since course delivery is online”.

NUC, from its press release, seems to dislike online programs, attempting to take us back to the 20th Century. Online programs are today a globally accepted mode of Education delivery, especially in the 21st Century. Nigerian educational policy has accommodated that with an Open University approved by the Federal Government and NBTE-approved Open Distance Flexible and e-Learning (ODFeL) Centres being operated by 36 Polytechnics at the moment, and the number is growing.

Nigerian HNDs are much respected globally. Many European countries give them direct admissions for Masters. Last year, a shining example was Miss Islamiyat Ojelade, HND Distinction in Science Lab Technology (Biochemistry) graduate from the Federal Polytechnic Ilaro, who last year received PhD admissions and Scholarships from seven (7) top US Universities, without the BSc. and not even MSc. Let us therefore start respecting our HNDs here at home and stop this discrimination by NUC and others with this mindset.

Mrs Fatima Abubakar
Head, Media Unit, NBTE

jaxin119:
One year crash programme is not sufficient enough to cover the extremely detailed course outline of the average university modules. Polytechnic course outline is very slim/limited and designed for middle level manpower.

That is how the GEJ's administration made a strategic mistake by introducing girls into the Nigerian Defence Academy resulting to reduced level of military training accross board. Today the result is the production of tiktok officers and excessive dead of officers and men in the North East.

Just make it 10 years now. Shebi na u design the curriculum

FreeStuffsNG:
Take Google to court when you have a 'degree' from un-accredited institutions o. Smh.

How most of you trifle on this kind of things just make me wonder if your time and resources are worthless to you.

You would have done yourself good if only you can verify that Institution partnering with NBTE are fully accredited in their country.

Lovenorth:
If you want a degree go to the university, you can't do HND and expect a degree certificate. There is no shortcut in life . You can't plant maize and harvest rice

It is not shortcut so be schooled. You have an existing qualification that is why it is called top up.

Cmeo:
NBTE isn't ashamed of it, now everyone is just embarrassing them.

Where are the everyone oga

sexiestharam:
Hope you are aware that you need to have a PGD to qualify for an MBA with an HND qualification?

No you are not totally correct, if you have distinction or upper credit from the polytechnic, u can do MBA (Professional) directly but not MBA (academics)

stuffs2002:
Na lie joo. The curriculum is not the same and the approach to education are not the same. Polytechnic is more of practicals while University was more theory and theory no be beans. Life is too easy in polytechnic that I was missing classes anyhow and still toping my class but dem no. born me well to try such in the university.

Mind you, I was studying engineering in both institutions at the same time

Liar

Ayobami0411:
No you are not totally correct, if you have distinction or upper credit from the polytechnic, u can do MBA (Professional) directly but not MBA (academics)

There is nothing like MBA academics. MBA is a professional course. Business Administration academics is Msc Business Administration, not MBA! What are you talking about?

stuffs2002:
One of my masters degree in Engineering is from Wichita, Kansas. Do you even know the meaning of IVY league schools? How do you even convince an IVY league that he is equivalent to an HND

Before then I went to a Federal university in northern Nigeria studying engineering and I also attended a federal polytechnic in Nigeria concurrently.

I got a job in the federal polytechnic I graduated from as a lecturer but I declined because I got better options. I can boldly tell you that the curriculum for HND is not the same as University at least for engineering courses.

If you know this that they are not 100 percent, is that not the reason it's been called top up

Ayobami0411:
You would have done yourself good if only you can verify that Institution partnering with NBTE are fully accredited in their country.

You will do yourself greater good if you understand that the partnering universities are not accredited by NUC which has the sole constitutional duty to regulate university education in Nigeria. I am still struggling with why you are struggling with realising that it is useless because NBTE can only do so with foreign polytechnics and not universities.
The intention is not what is being faulted but NBTE not going through universities accredited by NUC so that the degree they get is accepted. There are tonnes of such certificates being rejected by NUC, NYSC and professional bodies so why deceive the students?

Who will allow someone study Lab tech here in Nigeria at HND level and now use one year to convert to a graduate in another course, for example Medical Laboratory Science ? The regulators of the profession will not even accept such to practice in Nigeria!

Ayobami0411:
Due to your ignorance Mr.
Please be guided that it is not NBTE that will give the said certificate. It is an autonomous foreign universities licensed by the authority in their country so be properly guided.

Smh. Read my comment again but this time slowly to comprehend it.

sexiestharam:
There is nothing like MBA academics. MBA is a professional course. Business Administration academics is Msc Business Administration, not MBA! What are you talking about?

Don't express ur ignorance publicly. I am not just talking, I am 100 percent sure of what I am saying. You are right with it is been called MSc and not MBA.

FreeStuffsNG:
You will do yourself greater good if you understand that the partnering universities are not accredited by NUC which has the sole constitutional duty to regulate university education in Nigeria. I am still struggling with why you are struggling with realising that it is useless because NBTE can only do so with foreign polytechnics and not universities.
The intention is not what is being faulted but NBTE not going through universities accredited by NBTE so that the degree they get is accepted. There are tonnes of such certificates being rejected by NUC, NYSC and professional bodies so why deceive the students?

Who will allow someone study Lab tech here in Nigeria at HND level and now use one year to convert to a graduate in another course, for example Medical Laboratory Science ? The regulators of the profession will not even accept such to practice in Nigeria!


Smh. Read my comment again but this time slowly to comprehend it.

NUC is National Universities Commission. Commission that regulate Universities in Nigeria. Those foreign universities too have their own body in their respective countries. There is nothing NUC can do except if they prohibit those with foreign certificate from furthering their studies and that can only be here in Nigeria (worst scenario) not outside Nigeria.

It may interest you that there are some Nigerians that are on study scholarship particularly in Mewar University India. Even state like Enugu, Kaduna do send exceptional students for scholarship in Mewar University India.

Now let me burst your bubble this same NUC approved Mewar International University here in Nigeria which happens to be first India university in Africa and that is why in NUC argument, NUC never mentioned the competency of the school that NBTE partnered with in running the program because it will be like they are shooting theirself.

Riversstate:
You do HND for four years, one year compulsory internship and then go for service and you say BSC big pass??

On what ground??

On the ground that they operate different curriculum.

MBTE abeg rest ooo.. University and polytechnic no be the same and so they can't say they are equally yoked.. stop deceiving poly graduates. They know the truth.. okay let them make HND equal to NCE and LVT in FCE first.

Secondly, Who will allow someone study Lab tech here in Nigeria at HND level and now use one year to convert to a graduate in another course, for example Medical Laboratory Science ? The regulators of the profession will not even accept such to practice in Nigeria!

Abi person wey study Electrical engineering for polytechnic go come rub shoulders with university EE . Them no be mate.. starting from year 1 to year 5.. EE courses gets harder by the year.. I remember doing harder courses in 300 level and 500 level

sirqeeboi:
They are talking about technologist(HND) here not technicians(ND) a technician maybe flabbergasted with what you saying but not a technologist and doesn't have to get himself dirty before he can detect or diagnose a problem.

Ok HND holders are better engineer than B.eng holders, are you happy now?

I guess Polytechnic education should be scrapped instead of going through all this unnecessary debates when there is no job for both HND and B.Sc in Nigeria.

My sister had HND Upper Credit and B.Sc 2:1 from a federal Polytechnic and federal University in Nigeria, as at today NO JOB!

Our leaders don't no what they are doing.

EleventhWeirdo:
ICAN is a professional institute. Let's not bring it into the discussion as the Bsc/hnd issue is about academic differentials. A B.sc accounting borrows courses and is more extensive in scope than an hnd accounting. A Bsc accounting would take mandatory courses in law, economics, philosophy, psychology, sociology, computer science, public administration/pol science, management, and do on. The aim is to develop a complete professional proficient in fields that are, outside of but relate to, financial management as a whole. In Poly, did you do all of these? I feel Poly focuses on training technicians. Even the sophistication of the learning content and instruction varies across the two

Lol funny ,so funny,from year one I did, citizenship education,business law, mathematics, statistics,psychology,physics, biology, economics, business, management, computer science,law just the ones I can remember,please go and look up course outline of poly students they also do borrowed course.