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"Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by FreeStuffsNG: 4:37pm On Oct 26, 2023
‘Converting’ HND to degree is absurd'


THE recent disagreement between the National Universities Commission and the National Board for Technical Education over a ‘top-up’ programme to convert Higher National Diploma obtained in polytechnics, to bachelor’s degree offered by universities, is an absurdity. President Bola Tinubu, and the Minister of Education, Tahir Mamman, should intervene quickly and stamp out the blather.

Both agencies have argued over jurisdiction to award degrees, and over attempts to “convert” HND to one. The NBTE is reportedly seeking collaboration with foreign universities to create “an alternative to the post-graduate diploma” for HND graduates as an entry route for those intending a career in the academics.

The NUC insists that the NBTE lacks such powers. Besides, it declared, “Both the NUC Establishment Law and its Operational Law: Education (National Minimum Standards and Establishment of Institutions) Act vest in the Commission the powers to superintend and regulate university education in Nigeria, lay down minimum academic standards in the nation’s universities and other degree-awarding institutions, and accredit their programmes.”

But the NBTE countered, “Only the FME (ministry’s) Division of Evaluation and Accreditation has the power to assess the foreign degrees (not NUC) after the students have graduated.”

Mamman should step in.

HND and bachelor’s degrees are not the same though they have similarities. Both are valuable. Claims of superiority or inferiority are also misplaced. Trade certificates, professional craftsmanship qualifications and polytechnic education originated to drive industrialisation by combining practical and technical training with academic grounding to provide skilled technicians for factories, mechanised farms, and offices, and social services infrastructure.

In the 1960s up to the 1980s when Nigeria’s industrialisation was about taking off – with textiles, vehicle assembly plants, beverages and steel rolling mills, and electronics assemblies among others sprouting – polytechnic graduates were in demand. Today, with the rollback of manufacturing, they struggle for relevance.

The misguided ‘top-up’ reflects the lack of a viable and functional national developmental plan tied to the country’s educational structure.

The real issues remain. The salary entry-point disparity between HND and degree holders in the public service provokes accusations of discrimination. In 2021, the National Assembly intervened, passing a bill to abolish the dichotomy, but the then president, Muhammadu Buhari, withheld assent.

A certificate cannot be “topped up.” There are already prescribed and effective routes for HND holders to upgrade their skills through the postgraduate programmes in the universities.

A caveat: universities, local or foreign, are free to prescribe their own entry qualifications for degrees. National jurisdictions exercise accreditation rights.


The NBTE needs to reinvigorate the importance of the technical education and to engage government to drive the much-needed industrialisation in the country.

Government should revitalise the mining, and industrial sectors. It should push for mechanised farming and ICT by creating an enabling investment environment, and investing in infrastructure. This will rejuvenate polytechnic education.

The OECD said major world economies have transitioned from, and outsourced manufacturing, and more than 70 per cent of their GDP now comes from services, thus reducing the need for polytechnics. Many UK polytechnics have been restructured to universities utilising the Further and Higher Education Act 1992. They did not “convert,” or “top up” HND to degrees!

Polytechnics are still important. Experts explain that the HND programme comprises practical work experience and academic studies for hands-on skills. The bachelor’s degree focuses on quantitative skills in the classroom with lab-based courses. Polytechnic education was introduced in Nigeria to drive the mechanisation and industrialisation through the training of technical manpower, it must not be erased. Nigeria will likely still industrialise.

The “top-up” plan is ridiculous; it should be dropped immediately.

https://punchng.com/converting-hnd-to-degree-is-absurd/

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by FreeStuffsNG: 4:37pm On Oct 26, 2023
A certificate cannot be “topped up.” There are already prescribed and effective routes for HND holders to upgrade their skills through the postgraduate programmes in the universities.

A caveat: universities, local or foreign, are free to prescribe their own entry qualifications for degrees. National jurisdictions exercise accreditation rights.


My point exactly!

It's completely absurd and I find it repugnant that the idea is coming from a Professor heading NBTE.

That NBTE Boss must recieve a query from the Head of Service to serve as deterrent to other mediocre Professors and Administrators. Check my signature for free stuffs!

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by LeoDeKing: 4:41pm On Oct 26, 2023
Very absurd.

Entry requirements are different, so how do you convert from one to the other on completion of the programme?

Besides, the founding mandate of both level of studies are also different. Obviously, Polytechnics have lost sight of their mandate. How else can you explain courses in social sciences and humanities being offered in Polytechnics.

Polytechnic programme leads to award of OND or HND as the case may be while university courses lead to award of Bachelor Degree, so why changing from HND to Bachelor Degree after undergoing Polytechnic education? How does that even make sense?

Absolutely absurd.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by lordchiz(m): 4:46pm On Oct 26, 2023
One matter everytime....they should convert my small hnd to make it same biko

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Wealthoptulent(m): 4:47pm On Oct 26, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
‘Converting’ HND to degree is absurd'

26th October 2023

By Punch Editorial Board

THE recent disagreement between the National Universities Commission and the National Board for Technical Education over a ‘top-up’ programme to convert Higher National Diploma obtained in polytechnics, to bachelor’s degree offered by universities, is an absurdity. President Bola Tinubu, and the Minister of Education, Tahir Mamman, should intervene quickly and stamp out the blather.

Both agencies have argued over jurisdiction to award degrees, and over attempts to “convert” HND to one. The NBTE is reportedly seeking collaboration with foreign universities to create “an alternative to the post-graduate diploma” for HND graduates as an entry route for those intending a career in the academics.

The NUC insists that the NBTE lacks such powers. Besides, it declared, “Both the NUC Establishment Law and its Operational Law: Education (National Minimum Standards and Establishment of Institutions) Act vest in the Commission the powers to superintend and regulate university education in Nigeria, lay down minimum academic standards in the nation’s universities and other degree-awarding institutions, and accredit their programmes.”

But the NBTE countered, “Only the FME (ministry’s) Division of Evaluation and Accreditation has the power to assess the foreign degrees (not NUC) after the students have graduated.”

Mamman should step in.

HND and bachelor’s degrees are not the same though they have similarities. Both are valuable. Claims of superiority or inferiority are also misplaced. Trade certificates, professional craftsmanship qualifications and polytechnic education originated to drive industrialisation by combining practical and technical training with academic grounding to provide skilled technicians for factories, mechanised farms, and offices, and social services infrastructure.

In the 1960s up to the 1980s when Nigeria’s industrialisation was about taking off – with textiles, vehicle assembly plants, beverages and steel rolling mills, and electronics assemblies among others sprouting – polytechnic graduates were in demand. Today, with the rollback of manufacturing, they struggle for relevance.

The misguided ‘top-up’ reflects the lack of a viable and functional national developmental plan tied to the country’s educational structure.

The real issues remain. The salary entry-point disparity between HND and degree holders in the public service provokes accusations of discrimination. In 2021, the National Assembly intervened, passing a bill to abolish the dichotomy, but the then president, Muhammadu Buhari, withheld assent.

A certificate cannot be “topped up.” There are already prescribed and effective routes for HND holders to upgrade their skills through the postgraduate programmes in the universities.

A caveat: universities, local or foreign, are free to prescribe their own entry qualifications for degrees. National jurisdictions exercise accreditation rights.


The NBTE needs to reinvigorate the importance of the technical education and to engage government to drive the much-needed industrialisation in the country.

Government should revitalise the mining, and industrial sectors. It should push for mechanised farming and ICT by creating an enabling investment environment, and investing in infrastructure. This will rejuvenate polytechnic education.

The OECD said major world economies have transitioned from, and outsourced manufacturing, and more than 70 per cent of their GDP now comes from services, thus reducing the need for polytechnics. Many UK polytechnics have been restructured to universities utilising the Further and Higher Education Act 1992. They did not “convert,” or “top up” HND to degrees!

Polytechnics are still important. Experts explain that the HND programme comprises practical work experience and academic studies for hands-on skills. The bachelor’s degree focuses on quantitative skills in the classroom with lab-based courses. Polytechnic education was introduced in Nigeria to drive the mechanisation and industrialisation through the training of technical manpower, it must not be erased. Nigeria will likely still industrialise.

The “top-up” plan is ridiculous; it should be dropped immediately.

https://punchng.com/converting-hnd-to-degree-is-absurd/
Mynd44 nlfpmod

Editorial na Education?
Las las people with no certificates pays his Salary

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by CodeTemplar: 5:18pm On Oct 26, 2023
Good riddance. One curse affecting us is abuse of purpose. Polytechnics have their own purpose which is different from universities but envy, jealousy and covetousness is ravaging people that they can't think straight anymore. Upgrade ko, update ni.

HND and bachelor’s degrees are not the same though they have similarities. Both are valuable. Claims of superiority or inferiority are also misplaced. Trade certificates, professional craftsmanship qualifications and polytechnic education originated to drive industrialisation by combining practical and technical training with academic grounding to provide skilled technicians for factories, mechanised farms, and offices, and social services infrastructure.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by dominique(f): 6:05pm On Oct 26, 2023
It's absurd and ridiculous! People spending hundreds of thousands of naira didn't think it through at all. Is it not better to get a PGD in a university instead of converting your HND to BSc? I don't think unlilag offers a degree conversion program like, they offer postgraduate degrees in every course. That's what a lot of HND graduates opted for. That degree conversion is pure scam.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by SILVERLINES: 6:28pm On Oct 26, 2023
cheesy
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by accordadoga29(f): 6:28pm On Oct 26, 2023
Hehehe

Yes it is oooo.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by MANNABBQGRILLS: 6:29pm On Oct 26, 2023
The distinction between first degree and HND has not been abolished, as universities and polytechnics have their own unique programs, which would pose a challenge to such conversion scheme.
The university degree awarded by the Nigerian University System or any related institution is different from the HND awarded by Nigerian Polytechnics.
Let HND holders breathe
We Rise.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Misswork(f): 6:30pm On Oct 26, 2023
dominique:
It's absurd and ridiculous! People spending hundreds of thousands of naira didn't think it through at all. Is it not better to get a PGD in a university instead of converting your HND toma BSc? I don't think unlilag offers a degree conversion program likeLASU they offer postgraduate degrees in every course. That's what a lot of HND graduates opted for. That degree conversion is pure scam.
Fact
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by MANNABBQGRILLS: 6:30pm On Oct 26, 2023
Talking about how HND is seen abroad,

For example, if you have an HND in Civil Engineering from Nigeria, most Canadian universities will give you admission into the 2nd or 3rd year bachelors programs in an engineering program.
The decision as to whether you’ll start in the second or third year depends on the number of transfer credits that is accepted from your previous HND degree.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by kelvincoke(m): 6:30pm On Oct 26, 2023
There is God
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by BigDawsNet: 6:30pm On Oct 26, 2023
Hmm..

It will make sense if they can convert all Nigerian Polytechnic to university...

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Nobody: 6:32pm On Oct 26, 2023
Really??😯😯
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by adesegun121(m): 6:32pm On Oct 26, 2023
Ok
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by veraponpo(m): 6:38pm On Oct 26, 2023
These two higher institutions serve different purposes. My advice for people is that if you have the opportunity and your desired course exists in both Polytechnic and university; please endeavor to attend a university.

E get why grin

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by chris4gold(m): 6:40pm On Oct 26, 2023
Oga ooo
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Babastrong(m): 6:45pm On Oct 26, 2023
Your waec result did not qualify you to be admitted into university perhap you couldn't pass jamb that was reason you went to polytechnics but you want them to equate your HND to Bsc. my brother you and short cut are 5&6.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by CJStarz: 6:48pm On Oct 26, 2023
NUC created the unwarranted disparity between Bsc and HND holders,hence the emergence of the Top up programs. No one wants to be treated as inferior or second class. They should allow HND holders breathe.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Iamzik: 6:48pm On Oct 26, 2023
Wealthoptulent:

Editorial na Education?
Las las people with no certificates pays his Salary

And the one who forge certificate will be Their president 😂🤣🤣

Lobatan!

I come in peace 🙏

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by BoboNogoDie: 6:50pm On Oct 26, 2023
grin
Inferiority complex

BUT ON A NORM, YOU CAN NOT COMPARE A UNIVERSITY STUDENT WITH A POLY STUDENT.

THE LEVEL OF CLASS, SWAG AND INTELLECTUALS IN THE UNIVERSITY CAN NOT BE COMPARED TO A POLYTECHNIC.


Poly students are usually "local" no pun intended grin grin grin

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Ajanial: 6:51pm On Oct 26, 2023
Totally absurd...
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Hollyharjii: 6:51pm On Oct 26, 2023
K
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by TripleTTT3: 6:53pm On Oct 26, 2023
Fact
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by Lovenorth: 6:54pm On Oct 26, 2023
You want a degree? go to university, you want a Diploma? go to polytechnic case closed. There is no shortcut in education

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by 3ice9ce: 6:55pm On Oct 26, 2023
CJStarz:
NUC created the unwarranted disparity between Bsc and HND holders,hence the emergence of the Top up programs. No one wants to be treated as inferior or second class. They should allow HND holders breathe.

Instead, it is HND holders who are not allowing Degree holders breath with their meddlesomeness and unnecessary competition.

NUC has no business with HND holders. NUC only deals with Degree holders and not Diploma holders. HND is a diploma and not a Degree.
A Diploma is never same with a Degree anywhere in the world. Both serve different purposes.

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by wittywriter: 6:56pm On Oct 26, 2023
Problem no dey finish...


Wittyness.
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by damosade(m): 6:59pm On Oct 26, 2023
I have Hnd, and later went to university for my bsc.... so u won't say u are better than me

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Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by sirdest(m): 7:01pm On Oct 26, 2023
BoboNogoDie:
grin
Inferiority complex

BUT ON A NORM, YOU CAN NOT COMPARE A UNIVERSITY STUDENT WITH A POLY STUDENT.

THE LEVEL OF CLASS, SWAG AND INTELLECTUALS IN THE UNIVERSITY CAN NOT BE COMPARED TO A POLYTECHNIC.


Poly students are usually "local" no pun intended grin grin grin
Re: "Converting HND To Degree Is Absurd" By Punch Editorial Board by frankson1(m): 7:05pm On Oct 26, 2023
A friend, with only few months of studies is earn taking home N900k/month excluding allowances. On the same vessel, the Crane Operator earns over a million naira.

If the end goal is about the pay, then it's just a waste of time as people do a few weeks/months of studies and are doing very well financially.

I wish I knew what I've known now, I would have been driving a Porsche car😌😌

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