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Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by MrEverest(m): 2:21pm On Oct 18, 2023
Nigeria's economy is now on a free fall. Everything is collapsing before our eyes. Dollar rate has crossed the 1000 mark and is steadily climbing towards 2000/$. Millions of businesses both big, medium and small are either closing down or struggling to survive. Fuel is now 620 per liter yet subsidy is being paid.

There is absolutely no hope in Nigeria that things will improve any time soon! In other words, there is hopelessness!!

This brings me to the question of what if.
What if Peter Obi or Atiku Abubarkar had become president instead of Tinubu, would Nigeria have turned out this way?

At what point will Tinubu admit he has failed? Or would he continue to use propaganda to buy time even when there is no hope ahead?

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by fuckingAyaya(m): 2:24pm On Oct 18, 2023
Those agbado will avoid this question

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by chiiraq802(m): 2:28pm On Oct 18, 2023
Nigerian politicians are useless.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by insidelife22(m): 2:30pm On Oct 18, 2023
If this is all the so called "Lagos architect" has to offer, then imagine what Lagos could have been without him.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by ElSudani: 2:34pm On Oct 18, 2023
MrEverest:
Nigeria's economy is now on a free fall. Everything is collapsing before our eyes. Dollar rate has crossed the 1000 mark and is steadily climbing towards 2000/$. Millions of businesses both big, medium and small are either closing down or struggling to survive. Fuel is now 620 per liter yet subsidy is being paid.

There is absolutely no hope in Nigeria that things will improve any time soon! In other words, there is hopelessness!!

This brings me to what the question of what if.
What if Peter Obi or Atiku Abubarkar had become president instead of Tinubu, would Nigeria have turned out this way?


At what point will Tinubu admit he has failed? Or would he continue to use propaganda to buy time even when there is no hope ahead?

If either of them had become president they would have taken the easy route and continued the fuel subsidy and Nigeria would have ended up like Venezuela.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Bintabisiriyu2: 2:36pm On Oct 18, 2023
wait mek baba balabulu bulava change him diapers first then we go know.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Felide: 2:39pm On Oct 18, 2023
I think the Economic policies of this regime is somewhat not right. That's the reason for this issue on ground

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by MrEverest(m): 2:46pm On Oct 18, 2023
Lol, you think Nigeria is any better than Venezuela? Venezuela was a socialist economy and that's why they had those issues.

I don't think Nigeria would have been in this terrible situation if Peter Obi or even Atiku is in power. Tinubu isn't a good administrator. Someone that ruled a huge economy like Lagos yet had very little or no legacy in place except corruption and cronyism. Even a goat will do better as Lagos governor. Even if Lagos has no governor, it will still be performing and generating huge revenue because Nigeria's Economy is more or less domiciled there.

Tinubu destroyed our economy when he removed subsidy on his first day and also floated the naira without having serious buffers. I don't think Obi or Atiku would have been that stupid.

Tinubu was battling legitimacy issues and thought he could use severe changes in the polity to cause distraction. Now, it has all backfired. His legitimacy or lack of it has remained in the front burner. He doesn't even seem to have any plans but continues to do trial and error with 200 million Nigerians.


ElSudani:


If either of them had become president they would have taken the easy route and continued the fuel subsidy and Nigeria would have ended up like Venezuela.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by ukenke: 2:47pm On Oct 18, 2023
ElSudani:


If either of them had become president they would have taken the easy route and continued the fuel subsidy and Nigeria would have ended up like Venezuela.

But the subsidy is still being paid.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by gidgiddy: 2:49pm On Oct 18, 2023
Nobody can fix Nigeria and Tinubu is beyond useless

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by mrvitalis(m): 2:50pm On Oct 18, 2023
ElSudani:


If either of them had become president they would have taken the easy route and continued the fuel subsidy and Nigeria would have ended up like Venezuela.
L[b]mao you obviously know nothing about economics... Zero

Are we not paying subsidies now on petrol?
Soon we would be paying 600 subsidies to keep petrol at 620 ... Which is more than we paid before Tinubu comes it

Like Peter Obi said It's foolishness to float a currency without having the mechanisms or liquidity to back it.. It's pure foolishness[/b]

You guys know Tinubu has failed just console yourself with it would have been sams under Peter Obi

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by ElSudani: 2:51pm On Oct 18, 2023
MrEverest:
Lol, you think Nigeria is any better than Venezuela? Venezuela was a socialist economy and that's why they had those issues.

I don't think Nigeria would have been in this terrible situation if Peter Obi or even Atiku is in power. Tinubu isn't a good administrator. Someone that ruled a huge economy like Lagos yet had very little or no legacy in place except corruption and cronyism. Even a goat will do better as Lagos governor. Even if Lagos has no governor, it will still be performing and generating huge revenue because Nigeria's Economy is more or less domiciled there.

Tinubu destroyed our economy when he removed subsidy on his first day and also floated the naira without having serious buffers. I don't think Obi or Atiku would have been that stupid.

Tinubu was battling legitimacy issues and thought he could use severe changes in the polity to cause distraction. Now, it has all backfired. His legitimacy or lack of it has remained in the front burner. He doesn't even seem to have any plans but continues to do trial and error with 200 million Nigerians.



What are the attributes of a socialist state that are not present in Nigeria?
How can you even argue with someone who believes Venezuela is better than Nigeria. The comparison is ridiculous.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by VinnyBaba: 2:52pm On Oct 18, 2023
OP, It is the The latter, Definitely!

Nigeria is not hard to Govern!🙁

Tinubu is USELESS + his Iniquities is Not allowing him Rule well. 😏😕😒

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Millimann: 2:54pm On Oct 18, 2023
The career criminal is simply clueless.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by ElSudani: 2:54pm On Oct 18, 2023
mrvitalis:

L[b]mao you obviously know nothing about economics... Zero

Are we not paying subsidies now on petrol?
Soon we would be paying 600 subsidies to keep petrol at 620 ... Which is more than we paid before Tinubu comes it

Like Peter Obi said It's foolishness to float a currency without having the mechanisms or liquidity to back it.. It's pure foolishness[/b]

You guys know Tinubu has failed just console yourself with it would have been sams under Peter Obi

Explain where and how the subsidies are being paid so Nigerians can understand rather than parroting what you heard on the streets.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by 3pointsagree: 2:55pm On Oct 18, 2023
fuckingAyaya:
Those agbado will avoid this question

Chia

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by ZKOSOSO(m): 3:03pm On Oct 18, 2023
Buhari did the country shege....leaving it for Tinubu to finish it kpatakpata.....
Two questionable characters of unknown origin s

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by mrvitalis(m): 3:03pm On Oct 18, 2023
ElSudani:


Explain where and how the subsidies are being paid so Nigerians can understand rather than parroting what you heard on the streets.
Bros the landing cost of Petro is over 750 right now...

Diesel is a thousand so Petrol should be around that same price

Except you do business to sale at a lose then subsidy is being paid

Can someone buy a goods 850 and sale 600?

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by OkCornel(m): 3:04pm On Oct 18, 2023
Actually, Atiku and Obi dodged a bullet.

Nigeria is a sinking ship, with the whole insecurity and toxic corruption culture, the economy is bound to collapse.

Ants and bees build, but cockroaches destroy.

Nigeria is a land filled with a lot of people harbouring cockroach mentality.

Unless there’s a change of mindset from top to bottom…Tinubu, Atiku and Obi combined can’t save the sinking ship. That’s the cold reality Nigerians are yet to wake up to.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by mrvitalis(m): 3:05pm On Oct 18, 2023
ZKOSOSO:
Buhari did the country shege....leaving it for Tinubu to finish it kpatakpata.....
Buhari knew he wasn't smart so he was careful in his decisions

Buhari decisions economically was mostly smart but just wrong timing

Tinubu and his team have bad combination of ignorance and arrogance

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by MrEverest(m): 3:05pm On Oct 18, 2023
I can explain on his behalf because anyone with common sense already knows subsidy is being paid.

It costs more to produce fuel than diesel yet fuel is 620 while diesel is 1000. Only subsidy on fuel will cause that!

Fuel has remained around 600+ since naira was 600 to a dollar, now it's 1100 to a $ yet fuel remains same price. Only subsidy will cause that!

They claimed that fuel has been deregulized yet only one or two importers imported once and stopped. Since then NNPC is the only company importing fuel. Others abandoned it because they can't import and sell at 600 when it cost them more, so they abandoned it to NNPC who pays subsidy to maintain the price at 620.

Only ignorant people or mischief makers that live on propaganda will believe government isn't paying subsidy.

ElSudani:


Explain where and how the subsidies are being paid so Nigerians can understand rather than parroting what you heard on the streets.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Holluwhakemmy(f): 3:08pm On Oct 18, 2023
fuckingAyaya:
Those agbado will avoid this question
Nothing to avoid here the OP is just playing politics of bitterness
Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by ElSudani: 3:09pm On Oct 18, 2023
MrEverest:
I can explain on his behalf because anyone with common sense already knows subsidy is being paid.

It costs more to produce fuel than diesel yet fuel is 620 while diesel is 1000. Only subsidy on fuel will cause that!

Fuel has remained around 600+ since naira was 600 to a dollar, now it's 1100 to a $ yet fuel remains same price. Only subsidy will cause that!

They claimed that fuel has been deregulized yet only one or two importers imported once and stopped. Since then NNPC is the only company importing fuel. Others abandoned it because they can't import and sell at 600 when it cost them more, so they abandoned it to NNPC who pays subsidy to maintain the price at 620.

Only ignorant people or mischief makers that live on propaganda will believe government isn't paying subsidy.


You are absolutely sure of this because you own a refinery or because you are a fuel importer?
This must be a joke grin grin
Say something new, something we didn't know.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by gammarays(m): 3:25pm On Oct 18, 2023
ElSudani:


If either of them had become president they would have taken the easy route and continued the fuel subsidy and Nigeria would have ended up like Venezuela.
What a silly statement
How come Nigeria is worse than Venezuela and Zimbabwe after removing Subsidy?

The problem is not even Subsidy but mismanagement of funds. What happened to diesel and kerosene subsidies removed years ago?

Peter Obi would have managed resources better. He has the records already.
Atiku wasn't the best but far better than the so called Lagos Master Strategist.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by April4th(m): 3:30pm On Oct 18, 2023
Landing cost for PMS is 720-750, by the time you factor in logistics and transportation to various outlets the price of pms is supposed to be around 760/770 per litre. For the price to still be below 620, the government or nnpcl would've to subsidize it.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by OneCandleAway(f): 3:33pm On Oct 18, 2023
ElSudani:


You are absolutely sure of this because you own a refinery or because you are a fuel importer?
This must be a joke grin grin
Say something new, something we didn't know.

When someone doesn't have facts to backup an argument they respond like you. You think we done have experts in the oil industry here.
Or you think everyone is on your level.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by happney65: 3:38pm On Oct 18, 2023
He is just useless. Things were worst than this in 1999 and Obasanjo didn't complain. He went to work and we were better off economically by the time he left

If na Bulabalu them hand over to then,only God knows wetin for happen. grin

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Proudlyomonna: 3:40pm On Oct 18, 2023
The criminal is just plainly dumb, daft,clueless and drug induced grin

Him just dey do nonsense with confidence dey scatter everywhere.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Beverlyjean(f): 4:01pm On Oct 18, 2023
I know for sure that if obi were in power... 500m will not be spent on hotel bills in USA... NASS wudnt be getting cars with billions ....

Nigeria needed someone to lock the flowing reckless tap...that's y I voted for obi and I was totally against Tinubu, cos Tinubu is a wasteful spender... Now we are seeing it unfold

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Sergio103(m): 4:04pm On Oct 18, 2023
Beverlyjean:
I know for sure that if obi were in power... 500m will not be spent on hotel bills in USA... NASS wudnt be getting cars with billions ....

Nigeria needed someone to lock the flowing reckless tap...that's y I voted for obi and I was totally against Tinubu, cos Tinubu is a wasteful spender... Now we are seeing it unfold

One bottle of Starladdler for you.

As simple as ABC

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Abagworo(m): 4:07pm On Oct 18, 2023
Tinubu's failure started from his hasty vendetta mission against Emefiele who is the most experienced to help him on easy transition. He turned it to a tribal thing and now he has failed.

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Re: Collapse Of Our Economy; Did Atiku & Obi Dodge A Bullet Or Tinubu Is Useless? by Shikini: 4:10pm On Oct 18, 2023
Thiefņubu is useless

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