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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 9:36am On Oct 31, 2023
Kog45:
Cyprus well Europe.I thought Uzoho by now would be a force to reckon with but damn glaring he was not a real deal,imagine a 2018 World Cup with basic errors.

I don't blame him, the coach calls the shot

I was thinking this morning had it been Rohr was still super eagles Coach we would've gotten Michael Olise. With Olise and Iwobi in our AM role our midfield will be secured but this Pasiero doesn't know anything not even scouting of players and now he keep faith a goal keeper sitting on the bench weekly in Cyprus
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:41am On Oct 31, 2023
komekn:


Give me one example not two .

The basis for national team selection has always been outstanding consistent top level performance in your club and league.

With a proviso for quality of club and league, for instance, a bench warmer in Real Madrid can still be an outstanding player.

From the recent generation:
Chidera Ejuke
Emmanuel Dennis
Kelvin Akpoguma
Mikel Agu
Henry Onyekuru
I can go on and on.

What we saw before their Super Eagles invite was far from what they delivered.

Even someone like Ademola Lookman has still not lived up expectations.
I don't bring in sentiments on whether foreign or local born when I assess players. Let us see what Tella can do in the Green and white jerseys, ON AFRICAN PITCHES first before you start any comparison with Chukwueze.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:02am On Oct 31, 2023
komekn:


Give me one example not two .

The basis for national team selection has always been outstanding consistent top level performance in your club and league.

With a proviso for quality of club and league, for instance, a bench warmer in Real Madrid can still be an outstanding player.
Going by this logic, would you really say Tella deserves a call-up? He has been largely anonymous this season for Leverkusen and isn't a starter.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:05am On Oct 31, 2023
Joebie:
make una leave komekn oh..

this is based on voting (emotive bias)
What has Osimhen achieved in the last 7 years based on consistent TOP performance❓

got you grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:10am On Oct 31, 2023
zicky:
is the award for what a player has done for last 7yrs or 2023 award shocked

Some of you in here really don't read or get sarcasm. And that is even more hilarious. 😂

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:14am On Oct 31, 2023
Kenneth Omeruo starts for Kasimpasa in their Turkish Cup Round 3 fixture.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 10:14am On Oct 31, 2023
komekn:


What about George Weah 🤔
ah yes George weah. The famous ijebu man from Liberia.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 10:20am On Oct 31, 2023
komekn:


Actually didn't read it fully thought we were talking African football ⚽.

In this regard it's a great outstanding accolades.

This is what happens when you accept failure as the prelude to success. And deny hype and exaggeration.
that is what happens when you cover yourself with bitter leaf soup and emotive bias of here and now 😂😂😂

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:30am On Oct 31, 2023
TheSuperNerd:


Some of you in here really don't read or get sarcasm. And that is even more hilarious. 😂
sorry I had to read again cos I just saw the last line.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:36am On Oct 31, 2023
Icon4s:


From the recent generation:
Chidera Ejuke
Emmanuel Dennis
Kelvin Akpoguma
Mikel Agu
Henry Onyekuru
I can go on and on.

What we saw before their Super Eagles invite was far from what they delivered.

Even someone like Ademola Lookman has stilled not lived up expectations.
I don't bring in sentiments on whether foreign of local born when I assess players. Let us see what Tella can do in the Green and white jerseys, ON AFRICAN PITCHES first before you start any comparison with Chukwueze.

None of these players mentioned above have been consistently outstanding with top level performances for club and league.

So you are essentially agreeing with me.

In addition I could argue, none of them have had a run of games, but it's not a material fact.

Tella had an outstanding last season he is now in a team top of the Bundesliga and not getting any game time or a run of games to create form. In addition he has to displace in form Jeremie Frimpong, who is a Dutch international and maybe 🤔 better.

Chukwueze is in a better position but not necessarily good, he also is not getting much game time too. He has to displace Pulisic, who in my opinion is better ,more versatile with better end product.

So in this regard who is better for the SE is open to debate. In my opinion looking at Chukwueze past performances, he dribbles unnecessarily, poor crosser of the ball and his finishing is very suspect.

None of those issues that plague Chukwueze impact on Tella. I can assure he can cross the ball accurately there are basic requirements from academy football ⚽ more so in the Arsenal academy.

Most of our forwards are starved not getting good crosses. What's the point of having a " headmaster ' like V.O. and nobody can cross the ball with quality 🤔to him.

So it's time for Tella to be tried out and it's not a question of poor African football ⚽ pitches,it's about quality end product, football intelligence and work rate as well as helping the defence.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:39am On Oct 31, 2023
maidaboi:
that is what happens when you cover yourself with bitter leaf soup and emotive bias of here and now 😂😂😂

I'm not bitter just sweetly truthful although the truth is bitter.

Give examples of wrong deductions from here and now just one ,two would be wonderful 😊
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:46am On Oct 31, 2023
Danielnino00:

Going by this logic, would you really say Tella deserves a call-up? He has been largely anonymous this season for Leverkusen and isn't a starter.

I agree in principle yes .

However, he was excellent last season has gone to a club that's top of the Bundesliga. And who changed a winning team.

He is going to have to displace the Dutch international who is cemented in the team Frimpong.

In comparison Chukwueze has also been largely anonymous in AC Milan ,it's quite obvious he has to displace the more versatile Pulisic.

It's possible that Tella is simply not good enough and or the Bundesliga doesn't suit him. Remember the torrid time Ademola had there , he leaves to the Premier League and the rest is history. He is killing it in Seria A currently.

So who is better for the SE for me is open to debate, but until Tella has a few games we will NEVER KNOW.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:59am On Oct 31, 2023
Icon4s:


From the recent generation:
Chidera Ejuke
Emmanuel Dennis
Kelvin Akpoguma
Mikel Agu
Henry Onyekuru
I can go on and on.

What we saw before their Super Eagles invite was far from what they delivered.

Even someone like Ademola Lookman has stilled not lived up expectations.
I don't bring in sentiments on whether foreign of local born when I assess players. Let us see what Tella can do in the Green and white jerseys, ON AFRICAN PITCHES first before you start any comparison with Chukwueze.
Well said,Chuckwueze too has not lived up to expectations with 30 caps but I will not rate Tella over or compare with 30 caps Chuckwueze…hope he comes in and prove himself.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 12:02pm On Oct 31, 2023
Starboytwo:
Look at the top 8

1: Lionel Messi (PSG, Inter Miami & Argentina)
2: Erling Haaland (Man City & Norway)
3: Kylian Mbappe (PSG & France)
4: Kevin De Bruyne (Man City & Belgium)
5: Rodri (Man City & Spain)
6: Vinicius Junior (Real Madrid & Brazil)
7: Julian Alvarez (Man City & Argentina)

Remove 1,4,5,6,7


Halland/Mbappe/Osimhen=Game on.
And Bellingham if he continues to score
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chuks404: 12:10pm On Oct 31, 2023
komekn:


What about George Weah 🤔
first congratulate the young man. I haven't seen you do that then I can engage you on this. The last time I checked players like tammy you rated above him was no where to be found in the now. I mean based on current performance 😂

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:10pm On Oct 31, 2023
Starboytwo:
Look at the top 8

1: Lionel Messi (PSG, Inter Miami & Argentina)
2: Erling Haaland (Man City & Norway)
3: Kylian Mbappe (PSG & France)
4: Kevin De Bruyne (Man City & Belgium)
5: Rodri (Man City & Spain)
6: Vinicius Junior (Real Madrid & Brazil)
7: Julian Alvarez (Man City & Argentina)

Remove 1,4,5,6,7


Halland/Mbappe/Osimhen=Game on.

Remove Junior!? shocked grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:11pm On Oct 31, 2023
Napoleon55:

And Bellingham if he continues to score
Bellingham continues to score?He is a man to beat this season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:16pm On Oct 31, 2023
Kog45:
Well said,Chuckwueze too has not lived up to expectations with 30 caps but I will not rate Tella over or compare with 30 caps Chuckwueze…hope he comes in and prove himself.

Back to the proviso, it's your consistent, outstanding top level performances in club and league that get you selected.

The number of caps is not a unit of measurement for quality, particularly in the Nigerian context. We had a Shehu with how many caps and a finished Echiejile who went to the world cup.

Because Chukwueze has had 30 caps doesn't mean he is better than anybody else.

I remember a Sone Aluko who was a quality player that got only 7 caps over 6 years even when he was in the Premier League.

Is Tella better than Chukwueze is not proven and vice versa until he plays and or gets a run of games. Or is there room for both of them 🤔
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:21pm On Oct 31, 2023
Kog45:
Bellingham continues to score?He is a man to beat this season

I remember talking about him at age 17 as a potential world class midfielder and I got the usual dogs abuse.

It mirror's what I have been saying for quite sometime, England is no longer playing kick 🦵🏿 and rush 🦶🏿.

They are training across the academies of the EPL and Championship on the deck technically proficient top quality players.

I was at an Adidas event with a few select players(12) from three top EPL clubs in the North of England. The players were all under 18 and they were really good on the ball technically proficient with good football ⚽ intelligence. They are the next best thing one of them was 14 and a few are of Nigerian origin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 31, 2023
humility33:


I don't blame him, the coach calls the shot

I was thinking this morning had it been Rohr was still super eagles Coach we would've gotten Michael Olise. With Olise and Iwobi in our AM role our midfield will be secured but this Pasiero doesn't know anything not even scouting of players and now he keep faith a goal keeper sitting on the bench weekly in Cyprus
😂😂😂😂 This is very funny coming from one of the most vocal Rohr must be sacked proponents on this forum. Uzoho is your goal keeper for World Cup qualifiers and Afcon. Deal with it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 12:33pm On Oct 31, 2023
Truidstar:
😂😂😂😂 This is very funny coming from one of the most vocal Rohr must be sacked proponents on this forum. Uzoho is your goal keeper for World Cup qualifiers and Afcon. Deal with it.

But Rohr better pass this man by far
Pasiero will be sacked after the afcon because of super eagles outing. So he won't handle all the afcon qualifiers
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 12:35pm On Oct 31, 2023
Starboytwo:
Look at the top 8

1: Lionel Messi (PSG, Inter Miami & Argentina)
2: Erling Haaland (Man City & Norway)
3: Kylian Mbappe (PSG & France)
4: Kevin De Bruyne (Man City & Belgium)
5: Rodri (Man City & Spain)
6: Vinicius Junior (Real Madrid & Brazil)
7: Julian Alvarez (Man City & Argentina)

Remove 1,4,5,6,7



Halland/Mbappe/Osimhen=Game on.


If oshimen refuse to leave Napoli or stay put in Napoli forget it. He won't be able to compete with this lads years to come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:43pm On Oct 31, 2023
humility33:



If oshimen refuse to leave Napoli or stay put in Napoli forget it. He won't be able to compete with this lads years to come.
Pls where is he competing now?sometimes we need to appreciate the club that’s giving him the platform which is Napoli…..we too Dey nag Napoli as if Dey contribute nothing to Osimhen rise.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:48pm On Oct 31, 2023
komekn:


Back to the proviso, it's your consistent, outstanding top level performances in club and league that get you selected.

The number of caps is not a unit of measurement for quality, particularly in the Nigerian context. We had a Shehu with how many caps and a finished Echiejile who went to the world cup.

Because Chukwueze has had 30 caps doesn't mean he is better than anybody else.

I remember a Sone Aluko who was a quality player that got only 7 caps over 6 years even when he was in the Premier League.

Is Tella better than Chukwueze is not proven and vice versa until he plays and or gets a run of games. Or is there room for both of them 🤔
Yes even with a match he can proved himself just like Oliseh did and recently Osayi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 1:13pm On Oct 31, 2023
Kog45:
Pls where is he competing now?sometimes we need to appreciate the club that’s giving him the platform which is Napoli…..we too Dey nag Napoli as if Dey contribute nothing to Osimhen rise.
Yes we need to appreciate Napoli for the role they played so far but,
with Napoli's current situations,with their current coach and the way they treated Osimhen recently,
He will no longer be able to compete with those boys if we are to be realistic.

Unless Napoli miraculously become a champions league contender, otherwise
he need a champions league winning team to compete favourably with those boys
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 1:18pm On Oct 31, 2023
Napoleon55:

And Bellingham if he continues to score
no doubt, fine player, plus he is English, he get mouth.
humility33:



If oshimen refuse to leave Napoli or stay put in Napoli forget it. He won't be able to compete with this lads years to come.
I strongly believe this is osimhen last year in Naples. I'm not in his head but with the recent happenings I think it's a win win for everyone if he leaves.. Besides, with kvara, politano, simeoni, raspadori etc, napoli can hold their own..
forgiveness:


Remove Junior!? shocked grin
well, this is quite hard, but we have seen very good wingers who don't necessarily win the award eg Neymar... Plus I feel, goal scorer are quite favored to clinch this D'Or.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 1:24pm On Oct 31, 2023
komekn:


I remember talking about him at age 17 as a potential world class midfielder and I got the usual dogs abuse.

It mirror's what I have been saying for quite sometime, England is no longer playing kick 🦵🏿 and rush 🦶🏿.

They are training across the academies of the EPL and Championship on the deck technically proficient top quality players.

I was at an Adidas event with a few select players(12) from three top EPL clubs in the North of England. The players were all under 18 and they were really good on the ball technically proficient with good football ⚽ intelligence. They are the next best thing one of them was 14 and a few are of Nigerian origin.
The same way some talked about Osimhen potential when he was younger,but u did not agree with them,

No one can be absolutely sure of what the future can be

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 1:33pm On Oct 31, 2023
Osimhen is a global star now, and should really be intentional about his next move. He should calm down and shop for a team that will favorably move his ministry forward.

A team that will consistently fight for the UCL and other major trophies, a team that is stable and would work with his skill set to enhance and improve his game moving forward...

Man city is for Halland
Mbappe is destined for Madrid
Osimhen can't afford to even be in Seria A in the first place to compete favorably with these guys.

I can think no further than Liverpool FC and Chelsea.

He should not bother about Man united at all at all, unless he is not ambitious and wants to win only carling cup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 1:38pm On Oct 31, 2023
chuks404:
I don't get you? I will ce back to this post when he wins africa footballer of the year
Kanu came 6th in 1996 world footballer of the year ranking ,which we on this part of the world believed was rated higher then at least.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:18pm On Oct 31, 2023
Starboytwo:
Osimhen is a global star now, and should really be intentional about his next move. He should calm down and shop for a team that will favorably move his ministry forward.

A team that will consistently fight for the UCL and other major trophies, a team that is stable and would work with his skill set to enhance and improve his game moving forward...

Man city is for Halland
Mbappe is destined for Madrid
Osimhen can't afford to even be in Seria A in the first place to compete favorably with these guys.

I can think no further than Liverpool FC and Chelsea.

He should not bother about Man united at all at all, unless he is not ambitious and wants to win only carling cup.
Charlee, dem dey call you o. I am skeptical about Liverpool though just because of the way they line up in attack. Also Salah might move in search of Saudi $$$ soon and I don't see Osimhen as a Salah, Firmino or Mane type of forward. That said, Klopp once coached Lewandowski so let me not be too negative. I just feel Klopp doesn't care about out and out strikers.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:32pm On Oct 31, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Kenneth Omeruo starts for Kasimpasa in their Turkish Cup Round 3 fixture.
Omeruo don go turkey and I no no

It seems I stop taking some transfers seriously
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:34pm On Oct 31, 2023
humility33:



If oshimen refuse to leave Napoli or stay put in Napoli forget it. He won't be able to compete with this lads years to come.

There is no team with vacancy for victor ,because no epl team can make him compete aside City and Liverpool who are even occupied

But make we Dey see

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