Welz:

there is no day like Sunday tbh, 15k fuel got me 58k net on uber and indrive..other days I will be struggling just to net 20k.

Pls try to differentiate from net and gross.

No way 15k fuel will net you 58k, maybe you mean gross tho and when you finally do your calculations, your net may not be up to 30k.

Kommot your commission and kommot your 15k for fuel and you will realize what's left is not up to 30k

Pearl1910:




Sir, if this is really true then u haven't been fair by your judgement of ehailing.

You work approx 8hrs and make profit of roughly 15k after fuel and Commission.
Let's not forget you drive a Toyota Camry Muscle with 2.4litre engine, but even at that u make a handsome figure daily with what I call soft work.

He said he makes 26k in some days which includes 10k fuel and 20% commission. If you deduct the commission and fuel, he will have 10k left after 8hrs of hustling on an average day. Now, if you deduct other expenses incurred, his take home will not be more than 7k at most or even less. For Christsake, he's going home with 7dollars after eight hours of hard labour, hardly enough to buy groceries on his way back home.

Coming to your point, it's a terrible return on investment after eight solid hours of work. This is no soft work as you term it.

TheModerator:


He said he makes 26k in some days which includes 10k fuel and 20% commission. If you deduct the commission and fuel, he will have 10k left after 8hrs of hustling on an average day. Now, if you deduct other expenses incurred, his take home will not be more than 7k at most or even less. For Christsake, he's going home with 7dollars after eight hours of hard labour, hardly enough to buy groceries on his way back home.

Coming to your point, it's a terrible return of investment after eight solid hours of work. This is no soft work as you term it.

Honestly, there's no soft work in the hustle anymore, imagine driving 8hours only to go home with 10k when before this fuel palava, I will drive 3hours and go home with 13k just by setting ajah from mushin and setting Ikeja from ajah...

And 2k fuel which was 10litres will cover both trips for me...

Omoapena:


Honestly, there's no soft work in the hustle anymore, imagine driving 8hours only to go home with 10k when before this fuel palava, I will drive 3hours and go home with 13k just by setting ajah from mushin and setting Ikeja from ajah...

And 2k fuel which was 10litres will cover both trips for me...

That's the point. For a man with kids, he will need to buy cereals, fuel for generator at home, food for his children, other household items on his way home with just 10k? Tell me how much he will have left to even pay bills and fix his car subsequently. Soft work indeed.

TheModerator:


That's the point. For a man with kids, he will need to buy cereals, fuel for generator at home, food for his children, other household items on his way home with just 10k? Tell me how much he will left to even pay bills and fix his car subsequently. Soft work indeed.

There's drastic shortage of drivers sef because it's no longer soft work, reason why bolt will be giving someone 4km to 6km distance pick up with about 15mins to 20mins drive and they won't still give one privilege to cancel such trip...



I was in Ikeja isaac john yesterday and they kept giving me trips from gbagada, oshodi, ilupeju, Allen and ogudu.

I decline all and they blocked me for 24hours, forcefully giving me a break I don't want...

Omoapena:


There's drastic shortage of drivers sef because it's no longer soft work, reason why bolt will be giving someone 4km to 6km distance pick up with about 15mins to 20mins drive and they won't still give one privilege to cancel such trip...



I was in Ikeja isaac john yesterday and they kept giving me trips from gbagada, oshodi, ilupeju, Allen and ogudu.

I decline all and they blocked me for 24hours, forcefully giving me a break I don't want...

That's it my brother. People are turning their back on the business, that's the reason you have shortage of drivers. When you drive for 8 straight hours and you struggle to meet up with basic needs despite the fat dashboard, you just know is quit time.

It also highlights why djkayzee231 was unable to fix his knocked engine until his partner stepped in. When you have major issues to sort out with the tool (car) you use for the business, you're simply left in limbo. It doesn't make sense. Not being negative but just true situation report.

Omoapena:



I no get closing time
I close whenever I feel I have made enough cash for the day...

out of curiosity, how much is "enough cash" for a typical day for you?

TheModerator:


That's it my brother. People are turning their back on the business, that's the reason you have shortage of drivers. When you drive for 8 straight hours and you struggle to meet up with basic needs despite the fat dashboard, you just know is quit time.

It also highlights why djkayzee231 was unable to fix his knocked engine until his partner stepped in. When you have major issues to sort out with the tool (car) you use for the business, you're simply left in limbo. It doesn't make sense. Not being negative but just true situation report.

The man came with a problem that requires a solution. Why are people delving into his personal remittance with the owner? If he finish explaining, will the people asking help him to pay up the balance?
He needs advice and solutions on what to do, not people asking him what's not necessary at least for now.

Omoapena:



Pls try to differentiate from net and gross.

No way 15k fuel will net you 58k, maybe you mean gross tho and when you finally do your calculations, your net may not be up to 30k.

Kommot your commission and kommot your 15k for fuel and you will realize what's left is not up to 30k

i drive on uber...nothing concern me with gross..on uber we talk only about net. that Sunday in particular was full of surge trip..i used 15k fuel to NET 58k

Welz:

u drive on uber...nothing concerns us with gross..on uber we talk only about net

Lolz

So Uber net means excluding fuel expenses and their commission?

Omoapena:



Lolz

So Uber net means excluding fuel expenses and their commission?

no, 58k minus 15k..that's my take home

Omoapena:



I wouldn't say he is unserious tho as I don't know the kind of responsibilities he has on his shoulder but the part he said he has been driving the car for 2years and a month, I really don't know how he hasn't completed the payment yet, normally, paying 30k weekly will only take him roughly 107 weeks to complete the 3.2m, and 107 weeks is approximately 2years and 3weeks so I really don't understand how he still have 800k left to balance...



@Djkayzee231 have you been defaulting in the agreement?

I started with 25k I just changed to 30k after 15 months to quickly complete it… I only defaulted 3 weeks cos the car was with my mech when I wanted to ring the engine

Welz:

out of curiosity, how much is "enough cash" for a typical day for you?

Well, i give myself daily targets and once I meet up, I go home and if I don't get to meet up, and I'm tired, I go home as well..


I work according to my strength and mood...

Sometimes, I meet up with my target within a short time and I continue working to cover for next day target and sometimes, I don't get to meet up with my target so I ended up adding it to next day target...

I don't have a resumption time or a closing time...

Pearl1910:


Sorry for this situation.
3.2m; At 30k weekly u ought to have completed payment of that car by now even if u didn't make any down payment. Still having 800k to balance shows u had alot of defaults.
Not having money to fix your car or to add to what partner has to the extent that partner will come and carry it from your mechanic and buy engine in the car is not good at all.
It shows unseriousness on your part. He is kind to ask you to bring the money he has used to buy the engine, some other partners will activate the default clause in your agreement and the rest is history.
The mistake u made was allow him take possession of the car and he repaired it without an agreement with u.
Milk has been spilled now, my guess is he knows u can't raise that money and u will forfeit the car. But if he really wants you to handle the car again and complete your payment he will come to a compromise, but u must show serious commitment. You have to gather minimum half of that money and give to him and propose a concrete repayment plan of the balance to run side by side with your 30k weekly payments.
I personally will not accept adding the 800k for engine to the 800k left thereby prolonging the payment period without interest or benefit to me.
Come up with a 40/50k weekly payment In addition to the part lump sum for the engine to offset all debts. If he doesn't accept then involve other people,(family friends, church/mosque) and lastly the police because he is being unreasonable. Afteral, u didn't ask him to fix the car for u. But my guess is u didn't make any concrete move before he collected the car and u have defaulted already. So now it's by begging and not by force. Police case should be the last resort. Cos ones u involve Police there is forever bad blood between u both and u don't even know if the matter will sumasault on your head, don't forget u are in Nigeria where Judges and Police work for the highest bidder.

Was doing 25k for 15 months before i change it to 30k… I have only defaulted him 5 weeks in total when I was hospitalized 2 weeks early 2022 and 3 weeks when the car was at my mech place when I wanted to ring it… infact I was already bought what I wanted to ring it with before the owner said he doesn’t want me to ring it that he prefers another engine

TheModerator:


He said he makes 26k in some days which includes 10k fuel and 20% commission. If you deduct the commission and fuel, he will have 10k left after 8hrs of hustling on an average day. Now, if you deduct other expenses incurred, his take home will not be more than 7k at most or even less. For Christsake, he's going home with 7dollars after eight hours of hard labour, hardly enough to buy groceries on his way back home.

Coming to your point, it's a terrible return on investment after eight solid hours of work. This is no soft work as you term it.

Considering his mode of operation, Its a handsome income. I dont expect him to make more, starting work after morning rush hour and barely working more than 2trips at evening rush hour while working only within VI and Lekki phase 1 all through the afternoon.
Sometimes u really need to know how people work when they say d job isn't paying so u understand their POV.

Coming to dollar comparison of the income, don't even go there. It's universal and I doubt u earn more than $10 daily in your 8-5 job.

Omoapena:


Honestly, there's no soft work in the hustle anymore, imagine driving 8hours only to go home with 10k when before this fuel palava, I will drive 3hours and go home with 13k just by setting ajah from mushin and setting Ikeja from ajah...

And 2k fuel which was 10litres will cover both trips for me...

I doubt u make profit of 13k before fuel increase for Mushin to Ajah then Ajah to Ikeja (Minus surge). If my memory serves me right Mushin to Ajah would be around 6k, then Ajah to Ikeja would probably by 8k. When u deduct fuel and Commission u would be left with around 8k.
If u do same thing now, your profit will not be far from what u got before. U guys should stop building mansions in d sky, be satisfied with what the hussle offers and leave within ur means. Plan ur life, grow ur income gradually and live from what u get.
All my brothers are Federal Civil servants and I know what is obtainable in paid employment. Many average drivers earn far more than level 12 Civil servants, d difference is just financial management.

Pearl1910:


I doubt u make profit of 13k before fuel increase for Mushin to Ajah then Ajah to Ikeja (Minus surge). If my memory serves me right Mushin to Ajah would be around 6k, then Ajah to Ikeja would probably by 8k. When u deduct fuel and Commission u would be left with around 8k.
If u do same thing now, your profit will not be far from what u got before. U guys should stop building mansions in d sky, be satisfied with what the hussle offers and leave within ur means. Plan ur life, grow ur income gradually and live from what u get.
All my brothers are Federal Civil servants and I know what is obtainable in paid employment. Many average drivers earn far more than level 12 Civil servants, d difference is just financial management.

Mushin to ajah then was 7k to 8k
And ajah to Allen was 9k to 10k

Most of the time, I convert to offline when there's no surge and when there's surge, I do it online and I go home with 13k after expenses...

lrman:


Some of you are naturally dumb...if you want to form FBI on nairaland..at least you should be intelligent enough to know the truth and stop spreading false information...I don't even know any of those accounts you are linking me with.. some of you should be comedians

Do you want me to post proofs?

See guy, Just post normally and stop insulting people at every turn especially on this uber thread and I will stop exposing your other numerous monikers that you use in terrorising other threads on this forum.

Nothing stops me from going to all those other threads to expose you, I am just holding off because whatever shenanigans you constitute there isn't my business.

Omoapena:


Well, i give myself daily targets and once I meet up, I go home and if I don't get to meet up, and I'm tired, I go home as well..


I work according to my strength and mood...

Sometimes, I meet up with my target within a short time and I continue working to cover for next day target and sometimes, I don't get to meet up with my target so I ended up adding it to next day target...

I don't have a resumption time or a closing time...

fair enough

Well said Themoderator and omoapena.

I said the hustle for me is just to put food on the table and take care of some LITTLE family needs. I've said this a long time ago. The hustle is not to hammer. I don't know why pearl has decided to bring this up again. If the hustle is making you hammer, then good for you. This is my own reality! I also fix one or 2 things in the car.

The hustle isn't like before anymore!

Omoapena be careful with the acceptance rate. If it gets to 50, accept the trips that comes till you build it up again to like 70, then you can begin to choose the ones you want and the ones you don't. I was around 70 before. I'll boost it up tomorrow.

Meanwhile from GRA to ilupeju is about 10 mins, if there's no traffic....so you should have accepted considering your acceptance rate score.

Omoapena:


There's drastic shortage of drivers sef because it's no longer soft work, reason why bolt will be giving someone 4km to 6km distance pick up with about 15mins to 20mins drive and they won't still give one privilege to cancel such trip...



I was in Ikeja isaac john yesterday and they kept giving me trips from gbagada, oshodi, ilupeju, Allen and ogudu.

I decline all and they blocked me for 24hours, forcefully giving me a break I don't want...

This happened to me day before yesterday.

I kuku just left the app and went to work on indrive. If I hadn't even had 2 previous cancellation experience while 2km in to pickup previously, I might have gone again... but after those 2 I said "MBA! Anything above 3km, I'm not going"... Na later I see them block me for hrs, I haven't gone back since then.

Meanwhile...


I'm dressed to go to work, let me enter indrive and carry "along my route" passenger.
Saw one from the Thomas Estate to Chevy View, She put 2400, I put 3200 and she gree.
I dey here 15mins now, she never show.
She say "abeg oga I dey dress up"...

Barbiturate:
Omoapena be careful with the acceptance rate. If it gets to 50, accept the trips that comes till you build it up again to like 70, then you can begin to choose the ones you want and the ones you don't. I was around 70 before. I'll boost it up tomorrow.

Meanwhile from GRA to ilupeju is about 10 mins, if there's no traffic....so you should have accepted considering your acceptance rate score.

Bolt is just so annoying, same yesterday, my acceptance was in 55% before I left home and I was doing all trips allocated to me till evening when I found myself in ikeja and I started declining till it went down to 44%...


I just dey house like this when I'm supposed to be out there, house don dey tire me sef and I hate using indrive to work cox it frustrates my mental health seriously

MrReeseG:
Meanwhile...


I'm dressed to go to work, let me enter indrive and carry "along my route" passenger.
Saw one from the Thomas Estate to Chevy View, She put 2400, I put 3200 and she gree.
I dey here 15mins now, she enver show.
She say "abeg oga I dey dress up"

Very stupid set of people, indrive rider will purposely waste your time and when they finally come out, they will be telling you the route to take just because they want to collect something along that route, me no dey gree for them sha.

Pearl1910:




Sir, if this is really true then u haven't been fair by your judgement of ehailing.

You work approx 8hrs and make profit of roughly 15k after fuel and Commission.
Let's not forget you drive a Toyota Camry Muscle with 2.4litre engine, but even at that u make a handsome figure daily with what I call soft work.

I love this submission @ the bolded

For a whooping 30k what you're left with is barely half

This is the sad reality Unlike the notion the ant and telegram group people were spreading

Before you can make as much as 30k - 40k easily and make a profit of 25-30k

Now what ever you make half or more goes into fueling and commission except there's constant surge then otherwise

Pearl1910:


Considering his mode of operation, Its a handsome income. I dont expect him to make more, starting work after morning rush hour and barely working more than 2trips at evening rush hour while working only within VI and Lekki phase 1 all through the afternoon.
Sometimes u really need to know how people work when they say d job isn't paying so u understand their POV.

Coming to dollar comparison of the income, don't even go there. It's universal and I doubt u earn more than $10 daily in your 8-5 job.

Thank God you used the word "universal" in your last paragraph. There's a global price index that Nigeria is not immune of since we are largely a consuming nation, we import almost everything including cars and their parts. When your income is not flowing with global price of goods and services, you will find it hard to keep your head above water. That's why we must always check how much we earn and it's worth in dollars (as the global economy is powered by dollars). Almost everything you buy into your household is measured in dollars. Therefore, we cannot afford to discard that dollar comparison as it relates to our income.. Earning less than 10dollars a day in this country is living below poverty level. Anyone in that sphere must strive to come out of it.

Omoapena:



Pls try to differentiate from net and gross.

No way 15k fuel will net you 58k, maybe you mean gross tho and when you finally do your calculations, your net may not be up to 30k.

Kommot your commission and kommot your 15k for fuel and you will realize what's left is not up to 30k

Uber shows net on dashboard
Since it was on a Sunday
Hence I would not argue cos there was 2.1 surge together with free roads

But that's not obtainable without surge or offline

dav1002:


Uber shows net on dashboard
Since it was on a Sunday
Hence I would not argue cos there was 2.1 surge together with free roads

But that's not obtainable without surge or offline

I guess I have to activate my Uber account back

Omoapena:


Honestly, there's no soft work in the hustle anymore, imagine driving 8hours only to go home with 10k when before this fuel palava, I will drive 3hours and go home with 13k just by setting ajah from mushin and setting Ikeja from ajah...

And 2k fuel which was 10litres will cover both trips for me...

Exactly my point!!!

Djkayzee231:


Was doing 25k for 15 months before i change it to 30k… I have only defaulted him 5 weeks in total when I was hospitalized 2 weeks early 2022 and 3 weeks when the car was at my mech place when I wanted to ring it… infact I was already bought what I wanted to ring it with before the owner said he doesn’t want me to ring it that he prefers another engine

How did u think u will pay for a Corolla for 3years without having a major repairs before finishing the contract?
If u had put this into consideration and kept money aside for contingency u would have had enough savings or part to fix ur car properly.
I always say ringing corolla engine while using it for ehailing is a waste of money. If u do it, then plan to buy engine in d next 2months.

I have given my advise already, u can't give me any justifiable reason why u couldn't pay 3.2m in 2years with a sound corolla, Irrespective of your agreement (except it was a problematic car) and also didn't have money in your account/cooperative/Ajo to fix ur car before partner collected it. It's one of the two, if I get a HP on 25/30k I would certainly have enough money in my account should anything happen, I am covered. Or I pay way more than the agreed sum and complete my payment before partner can say jack Robinson.

If it was a problematic naija used car that ur partner gave u, then u have reason to talk hard with ur partner and collect your car back but if he gave u a sound toks/clean corolla, then u have driven the life of the car with nothing to fall back on. That's on u.

Omoapena:



Lolz

So Uber net means excluding fuel expenses and their commission?

The figure obtained after fuel and commission has been deducted is called PROFIT

Net is just the figure obtained excluding commission only