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Kingsnairaland:
Apologize or end the conversation I only talk with people who respect me Bible study is not by force.

I didn't disrespect you

Kingsnairaland:
This question you asked are so easy to answer but because you put clown in a civilized conversation then let end the conversation

I don't entertain abuse and insult.

All Trinitarians are clowns. Jesus and the apostles never believed nor taught any trinity doctrines so where did you get that from?

What Jesus taught is that the Father is the one true God. No where in the bible say God exists as three persons. That's misinterpretation.

If you can't see that clearly you're a clown then the conversation ends here.

Kingsnairaland:
You are confused by thinking the fruit of the holy spirit is the same as the calling gift of the holy spirit. We are called to do different works
But the fruit of the holy is evident in all believers. Because he brings his presence into us and Jesus start to live through us. This are the fruits of the holy spirit in the child of God
Galatians 5:22-26 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. When it comes to practicing I have the fruit of the spirit love gentleness kindness patience. This one below is the signs of the holy spirit in the believer in the child of God. Mark 16:17-20
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Then other places in the Bible talks about the calling gift of the holy spirit...

GIFTS and FRUIT are both things we can find in trees, GIFTS in trees are in most cases similar so if you're not wise you may confused a mango tree for orange due to GIFTS in trees but a wise person will examine the FRUIT to be sure of the tree.

These illustrations aren't used for individuals otherwise if that's what Jesus meant then an individual having the qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL but he or she is an Hindu or Judaists or Muslim or Traditionalist is qualified to enter God's kingdom without having to believe in Jesus!

Come on that's not what it means rather it's the FRUIT that pure worship promotes so that we can all IDENTIFY pure worship not individuals.

Ironically no imperfect human can possess those nine qualities because it's only a perfect soul that can possess it all!

cornelboy:
All Trinitarians are clowns. Jesus and the apostles never believed nor taught any trinity doctrines so where did you get that from?

What Jesus taught is that the Father is the one true God. No where in the bible say God exists as three persons. That's misinterpretation.

If you can't see clearly that you're a clown then the conversation ends here.

Bye bye.

MaxInDHouse:
GIFTS and FRUIT are both things we can find in trees, GIFTS in trees are in most cases similar so if you're not wise you may confused a mango tree for orange due to GIFTS in trees but a wise person will examine the FRUIT to be sure of the tree.

These illustrations aren't used for individuals otherwise if that's what Jesus meant then an individual having the qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL but he or she is an Hindu or Judaists or Muslim or Traditionalist is qualified to enter God's kingdom without having to believe in Jesus!

Come on that's not what it means rather it's the FRUIT that pure worship promotes so that we can all IDENTIFY pure worship not individuals.

Ironically no imperfect human can possess those nine qualities because it's only a perfect soul that can possess it all!

First the problem you have is that you think that Bible or Jesus only taught only about spiritual principles
That why you said this things below

MaxInDHouse:
if that's what Jesus meant then an individual having the qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL but he or she is an Hindu or Judaists or Muslim or Traditionalist is qualified to enter God's kingdom without having to believe in Jesus!

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My friend
Bible and Jesus taught about both spiritual principles and natural principles and different kinds of principles

Jesus taught about gravity laws which is actually physics principles when he told devil jumping down from a high place is equal to temping God

Because God put gravity and for you to disobey gravity means you want to find out if you are more powerful than God that put it

So there are many principles Bible taught
Now the fruit of the spirit is also part of the natural principles and it is mixed with spiritual principles and one hard thing to have is love

Example the love there is not the type of love that those who don't know God can posses because God is love... Only those who know God can have agape type of love the God kind type of love which floods our heart.

So the fruit of the spirit is mixed with natural fruit and spiritual fruit

Now the signs of a child of God.. It is also mixed with natural principles and spiritual principles

Those who don't believe in Jesus will never have the ability to speak in tongues because only the holy spirit can give this ability

Jesus is wise by mixing it so that if you are looking at the outward appearance to know the child of God and the children of devil you will make so many mistakes


God knows people will read this Bible that don't want to be part of God they only want to read it to find physical evidence so God hides his truth inside

God hide us in this world so that you can not see us with your eyes and decides to eliminate us.. There are many reasons why God chose to
Do it like this

We are in the world but we are not part of the world because we are the salt of the earth.

Glory

Kingsnairaland:
WE are in the world but WE are not part of the world because WE are the salt of the earth.

The funny thing is your so called WE aren't any specific group, they can be found among Hindus, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Muslims, Judaists and so on.
Definitely you have nothing tangible to say about true faith as false religion has confused you about the qualities of God's Holy Spirit so you think it's about individuals that could be found in all kinds of religions!

cornelboy:
All Trinitarians are clowns. Jesus and the apostles never believed nor taught any trinity doctrines so where did you get that from?

What Jesus taught is that the Father is the one true God. No where in the bible say God exists as three persons. That's misinterpretation.

If you can't see clearly that you're a clown then the conversation ends here.

You remind me of the account of when a man called Jesus 'Good teacher'

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing is your so called WE aren't any specific group, they can be found among Hindus, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Muslims, Judaists and so on.
Definitely you have nothing tangible to say about true faith as false religion has confused you about the qualities of God's Holy Spirit so you think it's about individuals that could be found in all kinds of religions!

The we
Am talking about are only those who worship God as Jesus commanded

Jesus said do church by this name in other words use this name to make my disciples... Use the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit to do church that what he is saying here so

It for only those who believe God exists as father son holy spirit



Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Those are the we.

Kingsnairaland:
The we
Am talking about are only those who worship God as Jesus commanded

Jesus said do church by this name in other words use this name to make my disciples... Use the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit to do church that what he is saying here so

It for only those who believe God exists as father son holy spirit



Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Those are the we.

Funny churchgoer!

Obviously you've forgotten that it's Maximus you're chatting not your fellow churchgoers, the highlighted is really hilarious as you can't mention any specific group that's worshiping you god. So they can be found in different religions like Catholics, Presbyterians, Anglican, Methodist, Apostolic, Cherubim and Seraphim, Dunamis, Harvesters, RCCG, Winners, Synagogues, Deeperlife, MFM, Chosen, Foursquare, CAC and to show that you're just confused all these religions are contradicting themselves yet you want to say they're all worshiping Jesus who prayed for his own disciples to have the same line of thought! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10

Guy i no wan give you headache that's why i said you should face your friends but because you said i want to run so i decided to expose your stupidity!

Kingsnairaland:
Bye bye.

Shalom

MaxInDHouse:
Funny churchgoer!

Obviously you've forgotten that it's Maximus you're chatting not your fellow churchgoers, the highlighted is really hilarious as you can't mention any specific group that's worshiping you god. So they can be found in different religions like Catholics, Presbyterians, Anglican, Methodist, Apostolic, Cherubim and Seraphim, Dunamis, Harvesters, RCCG, Winners, Synagogues, Deeperlife, MFM, Chosen, Foursquare, CAC and to show that you're just confused all these religions are contradicting themselves yet you want to say they're all worshiping Jesus who prayed for his own disciples to have the same line of thought! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10

Guy i no wan give you headache that's why i said you should face your friends but because you said i want to run so i decided to expose your stupidity!

Now because you don't know Bible... Well yes like you said below they can be found in those churches why because Bible said they will be in various churches and nations
But one thing they will have in common is they will do church in the name of the father the son the holy spirit...

MaxInDHouse:
So they can be found in different religions like Catholics, Presbyterians, Anglican, Methodist, Apostolic, Cherubim and Seraphim, Dunamis, Harvesters, RCCG, Winners, Synagogues, Deeperlife, MFM, Chosen, Foursquare, CAC and to show that you're just confused all these religions are contradicting themselves

Now Bible calls us the body of Christ

That is our collective name God church is the body of Christ

Now Bible shows that God separated Paul and Barnabas because they had conflict

But yet God was still working through Barnabas and Paul separately so... One person may like to wear trouser to church and they don't see it as a big deal another may not like it then this things can bring separation and God will bless the people to separate and worship him as they see fit it allowed in the kingdom for there is liberty to worship God as you see fit so long as you don't sin

So yes

Paul and Peter had conflict and Peter focused on the Jews while Paul focus on gentiles

So they went there separate ways and handle their church

Yet God was with all of them.
Jesus commanded the disciples to scatter unto every nation and make their own followers their own church

So there is no one church you can say only here can I find God

Because God is not limited to only one person or one church

God is everywhere like I told you before
So Jesus promised to be in only church that will do church activities in the name of
The father
The son
The holy spirit

Glory

We all are called the body of the Christ
And Jesus is the head of that body
. Glory.

Kingsnairaland:
Bible said they will be in various churches

Different churches in our day means different religions so you're lying to your own soul!

We know that the so called churches out there aren't worshiping the same god that's why they are contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines.
Jesus said his own disciples will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} when disciples have the same line of thought they will not be compelled to kill one another due to politics and racism {John 13:34-35} but the churches out there are into military services so how can they show true love to their fellow believers?

That's why Satan is promoting division among them so that members of one religion may have a totally different view of God's will from the other and when politicians brainwash them they will deliberately carry weapons against one another forgetting what Jesus commanded! John 15:12-13

Guy whatever makes your teachers differ in reasoning (which is the situation of the churches of Christendom today) you can't be worshiping the same god!

MaxInDHouse:
Different churches in our day means different religions so you're lying to your own soul!

We know that the so called churches out there aren't worshiping the same god that's why they are contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines.
Jesus said his own disciples will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} when disciples have the same line of thought they will not be compelled to kill one another due to politics and racism {John 13:34-35} but the churches out there are into military services so how can they show true love to their fellow believers?

That's why Satan is promoting division among them so that members of one religion may have a totally different view of God's will from the other and when politicians brainwash them they will deliberately carry weapons against one another forgetting what Jesus commanded! John 15:12-13

Guy whatever makes your teachers differ in reasoning (which is the situation of the churches of Christendom today) you can't be worshiping the same god!

There is only one set of collective churches called the body of Christ
and that is only those who do church in the name of the father the son the holy spirit

Different church do not mean different religions

Go check dictionary to find out the meaning of religion

Now different church worship the same God that why I told you only those that use this rule which Jesus set out are Christians

Jesus set rules for how to worship God in church so stop lying to yourself because you don't want to obey Jesus

The church of God God shed his blood for it and set up rules

Now you must follow the rules
You can then add your own rules if you wish but it must be under this rules

1)
first set of rules

Example
You must do church activities with only this name
The father
The son
The holy spirit

2)
Next rule you must pray to the father and you end your prayer... with in the name of Jesus.. And the people say amen

3)
Next you must share the body of Jesus in the church with bread as the symbol
and drink his blood with wine as the symbol

4)
You must acknowledge the holy spirit presence and believe in his works and power

5)
You must do all this things as a sign to remember what Jesus did at the cross


There are others rules which I may have forgotten but this is the basic rules you must do in church

Before you add your own man made rule in your church

Each church have extra other rules they add but you see that mandatory five rules above it must be in all true Christian church to show you we are one body in Christ our lord

So you can say what you want because you don't believe Jesus is God almighty..

Glory.

Kingsnairaland:
There is only one set of collective churches called the body of Christ

They're workers of lawlessness {Matthew 7:21-23} as long as they can't work together as one body {Ephesians 4:12} so that when politics and racism makes others fight against one another {Revelations 6:3-4} the body of Christ will stand out for everyone to know {Matthew 5:14-16} that they have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} as they will never ever raise weapons against anyone talkless their fellow believers! Isaiah 2:4

MaxInDHouse:
They're workers of lawlessness {Matthew 7:21-23} as long as they can't work together as one body {Ephesians 4:12} so that when politics and racism makes others fight against one another {Revelations 6:3-4} the body of Christ will stand out for everyone to know {Matthew 5:14-16} that they have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} as they will never ever raise weapons against anyone talkless their fellow believers! Isaiah 2:4

The places you quote has no meaning to what you said that why you couldn't locate it to write it down

I heard they told you people not to write words of God because they know if you continue to write it you will see the true light

Bible shows Christ has given us liberty to do any thing we want as long as we don't sin

So I can chose to pray standing up or sitting down this are the kinds of liberty we have in Christ Jesus our lord God and saviour.

Kingsnairaland:
The places you quote has no meaning to what you said that why you couldn't locate it to write it down I heard they told you people not to write words of God because they know if you continue to write it you will see the true light Bible shows Christ has given us liberty to do any thing we want as long as we don't sin
So I can chose to pray standing up or sitting down this are the kinds of liberty we have in Christ Jesus our lord God and saviour.

I have told you:

"Continue chatting with your friends"

But you said i'm running now you're feeling uncomfortable with my presence shey?

Guy just continue deceiving yourself there's no need thinking you can make any sense before me with your different religions contradicting themselves in teachings and conflicting doctrines yet claiming they're the body of Christ!

Kingsnairaland:
Stop deceiving your self

Yes some can know 70%
Because of what you talk and do

But only God knows what is in the mind

I can say I want to go to Lagos and change my mind

So you can't predict if you can predict then predict football events let see.

See clown. You are talking predict after you have admitted we have the ability to read minds.

Kingsnairaland:
One you don't know English or those who taught you Bible don't know English

Colossians 2:13 ►
New International Version
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,

New Living Translation
You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins.

As soon as you gave your live to Jesus you become alive with Jesus forever more glory

Bible said God had forgiven us all our trespassing which meant all our sin

So is future sin not part of (ALL) your trespass

What is trespass is also found in Scripture; it means “a false step or sin.

Even the scriptures you posted are all saying past sins via "were".

No future sins in there. You are just deceiving yourself to death!

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you:

"Continue chatting with your friends"

But you said i'm running now you're feeling uncomfortable with my presence shey?

Guy just continue deceiving yourself there's no need thinking you can make any sense before me with your different religions contradicting themselves in teachings and conflicting doctrines yet claiming they're the body of Christ!

We don't claim
That is what we are

We do what Bible says
We are the body of Christ and
Christ is our head

We are not like you we are the chosen generation a royal priest hood

As long as you don't believe in Jesus

Just forget about church because you will do cult rather than church.

Dtruthspeaker:
See clown. You are talking predict after you have admitted we have the ability to read minds.

I walk in the light I don't walk where there is strife and abuse and insult so apologies or we end the conversation.

Dtruthspeaker:
Even the scriptures you posted are all saying past sins via "were".

No future sins in there. You are just deceiving yourself to death!

Apologize for your abuse behavior then I will show you where it says what I said since you couldn't see it there even though it in front of you.

So this is what God means by he will make them blind to see his truth since they chose to do it by themselves

Glory.. First apologize then I will show it to you because you can't see it by your own power.

Kingsnairaland:
We don't claim
That is what we are
We do what Bible says
We are the body of Christ and
Christ is our head
We are not like you we are the chosen generation a royal priest hood
As long as you don't believe in Jesus
Just forget about church because you will do cult rather than church.

Ọmọ Jesus said his own disciples will shine as light so the whole world can see them {Matthew 5:14-16} so if you can't mention any recognized group then you're lying to your own soul!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Jesus said his own disciples will shine as light so the whole world can see them {Matthew 5:14-16} so if you can't mention any recognized group then you're lying to your own soul!

All the churches you listed you can see their top men shining as light
.

It will be unfair for me to list their names but you can see them on TV

And you can see their great works.

Kingsnairaland:
All the churches you listed you can see their top men shining as light. It will be unfair for me to list their names but you can see them on TV. And you can see their great works.

People promoting hatred among themselves to support politicians and later encourage their followers to go and kill one another in the name of patriotism shey?

In what way exactly are they shining?
OK i get you they're famous on TVs!

MaxInDHouse:
People promoting hatred among themselves to support politicians and later encourage their followers to go and kill one another in the name of patriotism shey?

In what way exactly are they shining?
OK i get you they're famous on TVs!

There is no real man of God that will tell you to go fight for politicians

They can tell you who to vote for but it does not translate to you killing other people for your candidates

Paul preached to politicians and wanted to pressure them to believe in Jesus too

Nothing wrong with partnering with a political party or man

Because governments can advance the kingdom of God into various places too.

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Kingsnairaland:
There is no real man of God that will tell you to go fight for politicians.

When we tell you that you're deaf spiritually speaking you will start complaining.

Who are those praying for soldiers to go and kill their enemies? Luke 6:27-28

Are they not your so called "man of God"?

When politics turn to terrorism what happens to those voting against themselves?

OK you think politicians view those voting against them as friends shey?

MaxInDHouse:
When we tell you that you're deaf spiritually speaking you will start complaining.

Who are those praying for soldiers to go and kill their enemies? Luke 6:27-28

Are they not your so called "man of God"?

When politics turn to terrorism what happens to those voting against themselves?

OK you think politicians view those voting against them as friends shey?

Am not deaf in the spirit but
If you are deaf in the spirit you can tell me to pray for you.

Kingsnairaland:
Am not deaf in the spirit but. If you are deaf in the spirit you can tell me to pray for you.

Pray for who?

Guy, meet Jehovah's Witnesses to pray for you because you've been totally brainwashed by thieves claiming pastors.

MaxInDHouse:
Pray for who?

Guy, meet Jehovah's Witnesses to pray for you because you've been totally brainwashed by thieves claiming pastors.

Next time mind your vile words because God lives inside me am filled with the holy spirit which you don't believe in

I have prayed for many jahova witness and they recovered from the cult

Now the main thing is men of God don't force you to vote for those they like so don't side track and behave unruly

Your enemies are not men of God but the devil.

Kingsnairaland:
Next time mind your vile words because God lives inside me am filled with the holy spirit which you don't believe inI have prayed for many jahova witness and they recovered from the cultNow the main thing is men of God don't force you to vote for those they like so don't side track and behave unrulyYour enemies are not men of God but the devil.

Guy, continue deceiving yourself.
Your useless, hopeless and worthless pastors are the ones you should go and pray for since they are working with politicians to kill people here and there.

Kingsnairaland:
Romans 11:29
29 God does not take back his gifts. He does not change his mind about those he has chosen.




John 10:28-29
says: “And I give to them eternal life, and they shall by no means perish forever, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. My Father…is greater than all, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand.




God is not a confused God

He knows the end from the start

You can't be saved in Jesus then become unsaved.

There is nothing your child can do that will make him not to be your child...

This is One of the deceptions of the devil.

If you are saved and you cross to the other side you are gone for ever except you repent.

Nothing like once saved always saved.

Are you saying someone who became a Christian and later disown Christianity and now worships Sango or Esu will have a place with God because he was once saved?

Heresy is what your claim is called.
"The gifts and the calling of God is without repentance" that you quoted doesn't fit your claim.

There is an end for all the system of this world and that is when the verse you quoted seize to be valid.

Satan has a gift from God. And he continues to use it till date likewise the angels that followed him. God has not retrieved the power he gave them till date. But an end is coming for such.

A child of God that became a rebel and now worships Satan still has the gift of Grace and other gifts God has given him. God won't take them from him. So, he can use the gifts as long as it lasts.
He can still be a good singer, good footballer, a great mathematician etc. And the gift of Grace too is intact which he can still use to go back to God. All of these won't be taken away from him. Untill the end of the world. But if he does in his sins without using the gift of Grace. He has no place with God. He has lost his soul.

That is what the verse is talking about.

But that sentence will seize to work for everyone when the end of this world comes. There would be no more Grace and every other gifts and callings will seize.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, continue deceiving yourself.
Your useless, hopeless and worthless pastors are the ones you should go and pray for since they are working with politicians to kill people here and there.

You are yet to bring proves that men of God work with politicians to kill.

You say things out of emotions do you really have the fear of God in you.