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Tetraozonaitera:
This is One of the deceptions of the devil.

If you are saved and you cross to the other side you are gone for ever except you repent.

Nothing like once saved always saved.

Are you saying someone who became a Christian and later disown Christianity and now worships Sango or Esu will have a place with God because he was once saved?

Heresy is what your claim is called.
"The gifts and the calling of God is without repentance" that you quoted doesn't fit your claim.

There is an end for all the system of this world and that is when the verse you quoted seize to be valid.

Satan has a gift from God. And he continues to use it till date likewise the angels that followed him. God has not retrieved the power he gave them till date. But an end is coming for such.

A child of God that became a rebel and now worships Satan still has the gift of Grace and other gifts God has given him. God won't take them from him. So, he can use the gifts as long as it lasts.
He can still be a good singer, good footballer, a great mathematician etc. And the gift of Grace too is intact which he can still use to go back to God. All of these won't be taken away from him. Untill the end of the world. But if he does in his sins without using the gift of Grace. He has no place with God. He has lost his soul.

That is what the verse is talking about.

But that sentence will seize to work for everyone when the end of this world comes. There would be no more Grace and every other gifts and callings will seize.

You are merely talking from your sensual experience mindset side and this is not biblical your words don't correspond to scripture

And I can show it to you but first.
Read all the pages of the way I explain this saving grace here we are in page 12


If after reading them you still insist that once saved is not saved then you tell me

Then I will ask you one question to show you how your statement are wrong.

Kingsnairaland:
You are yet to bring proves that men of God work with politicians to kill. You say things out of emotions do you really have the fear of God in you.

You're now asking the right questions.

Jesus said his disciples are no part of the world {John 17:14} so when talking about chosing the person that will rule God's word said it's evil in the sight of God {1Samuel 8:6} Satan as the head of those ruling the world {John 14:30; 1John 5:19} wants to use it as a trap to engage more people in the rulership of the earth so that if you're not part of them you can be part of those opposing them which will lead to hatred among those involved. Jesus' disciples are to love their neighbours {Mark 12:31} they are to love fellow disciples just as Jesus love them {John 13:34-35} they are to love even those opposing them {Luke 6:27-28} how can such be possible when they engage in politics?

That's why the book of Revelations said a great sword was given to POLITICS so that all those involved can start killing themselves as a result of the hatred they have built in politics! Revelations 6:3-4

So if your so called men of God encourage their followers to engage in politics for instance if Adeboye is for Tinubu how do you expect his followers who are for Atiku to have the love of Christ among themselves?
If Kumuyi is hailing Tinubu how do you expect his followers who are supporting Obi to have the love of Christ among themselves?

That's why Jesus said his own disciples are no part of the world of POLITICS {John 17:14} it's our neutrality that makes Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Goodness, Kindness, Faith, Mildness and Self control work among us! Galatians 5:22-23

On the other hand those engaging in politics must practicing and support these acts:
Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings. Galatians 5:19-21

Or can you tell me how those engaging in politics will do so without promoting at least five of the things Paul mentioned here?
I know you will lie but i'm prepared to expose you, there is no politician that's is free from all these acts so anyone supporting such a person can't speak against such acts with full conviction because the politicians he is supporting is PRACTICING it.

Guy that's why i said both you and your so called men of God are spiritually blind!

MaxInDHouse:
You're now asking the right questions.

Jesus said his disciples are no part of the world {John 17:14} so when talking about chosing the person that will rule God's word said it's evil in the sight of God {1Samuel 8:6} Satan as the head of those ruling the world {John 14:30; 1John 5:19} wants to use it as a trap to engage more people in the rulership of the earth so that if you're not part of them you can be part of those opposing them which will lead to hatred among those involved. Jesus' disciples are to love their neighbours {Mark 12:31} they are to love fellow disciples just as Jesus love them {John 13:34-35} they are to love even those opposing them {Luke 6:27-28} how can such be possible when they engage in politics?

That's why the book of Revelations said a great sword was given to POLITICS so that all those involved can start killing themselves as a result of the hatred they have built in politics! Revelations 6:3-4

So if your so called men of God encourage their followers to engage in politics for instance if Adeboye is for Tinubu how do you expect his followers who are for Atiku to have the love of Christ among themselves?
If Kumuyi is hailing Tinubu how do you expect his followers who are supporting Obi to have the love of Christ among themselves?

That's why Jesus said his own disciples are no part of the world of POLITICS {John 17:14} it's our neutrality that makes Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Goodness, Kindness, Faith, Mildness and Self control work among us! Galatians 5:22-23

On the other hand those engaging in politics must practicing and support these acts:
Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings. Galatians 5:19-21

Or can you tell me how those engaging in politics will do so without promoting at least five of the things Paul mentioned here?
I know you will lie but i'm prepared to expose you, there is no politician that's is free from all these acts so anyone supporting such a person can't speak against such acts with full conviction because the politicians he is supporting is PRACTICING it.

Guy that's why i said both you and your so called men of God are spiritually blind!

Maybe you are blind in the spirit because I am not,... God said government are still ministers of God to bring oder in the society

Now all the places you list in the Bible non said don't join politics or be a part of government

Now we are not of this world means
. We have our own kingdom which we are in which is the kingdom of God..
Jesus said this kingdom is inside us it is not physical kingdom it is a spiritual one
. But we can join politics and government if we want because Jesus said stay here on earth tarry here till the day I come

The world operates the kingdom of darkness system how they do this is by using the system of the devil to run things but God promised it won't hurt us or control us

But we Christians don't use this same system God children in politics do not engage in devil worshipping or sacrifices

Romans 13:1 read down ...

Let every person be subject to the (government) governing authorities.
For there is no authority except from God [granted by His permission and sanction],
and those which exist have been put in place by God.
Therefore whoever resists [governmental] authority resists the ordinance of God.
And those who have resisted it will bring judgment (civil penalty) on themselves.
For [civil] authorities are not a source of fear for [people of] good behavior, but for [those who do] evil.

Romans 13:1-7,
Paul describes the governing authorities as “ministers of God” and says they are responsible for administering civil justice. Although God is sovereign, He chooses to use human governments to carry out His will in the civil sphere.

Kingsnairaland:
Maybe you are blind in the spirit because I am not,... God said government are still ministers of God to bring oder in the society
Now all the places you list in the Bible non said don't join politics or be a part of government
Now we are not of this world means
. We have our own kingdom which we are in which is the kingdom of God..
Jesus said this kingdom is inside us it is not physical kingdom it is a spiritual one
. But we can join politics and government if we want because Jesus said stay here on earth tarry here till the day I come
The world operates the kingdom of darkness system how they do this is by using the system of the devil to run things but God promised it won't hurt us or control us
But we Christians don't use this same system God children in politics do not engage in devil worshipping or sacrifices
Romans 13:1 read down ...
Let every person be subject to the (government) governing authorities.
For there is no authority except from God [granted by His permission and sanction],
and those which exist have been put in place by God.
Therefore whoever resists [governmental] authority resists the ordinance of God.
And those who have resisted it will bring judgment (civil penalty) on themselves.
For [civil] authorities are not a source of fear for [people of] good behavior, but for [those who do] evil.
Romans 13:1-7,
Paul describes the governing authorities as “ministers of God” and says they are responsible for administering civil justice. Although God is sovereign, He chooses to use human governments to carry out His will in the civil sphere.

Now this is where you are blind!

Satan is the ruler of this world right now {John 14:30; 1John 5:29} he told Jesus that all the authority on this planet is in his hand {Luke 4:5-7} abeg who gave him?
Is it not God who permitted Satan to be the ruler for the main time?
Is it not the same God who promised to judge Satan and all his corulers? Genesis 3:15 compare to Daniel 2:44

Of course all worldly politicians are permitted to be there so that they can continue maintaining law and order before God's Kingdom comes to wipe them all away therefore they are serving as ministers permitted by God to be there but when it comes to getting involved in their activities no believer in Jesus should engage them that's why Jesus declined when Satan offered him a position under Satan's government.

So don't be confused, God PERMITTED them not because they're doing God's will but just for them to continue serving as watchdog until God's Kingdom comes to wipe them all away!

Is Satan not God's minister too?

MaxInDHouse:
Now this is where you are blind!

Satan is the ruler of this world right now {John 14:30; 1John 5:29} he told Jesus that all the authority on this planet is in his hand {Luke 4:5-7} abeg who gave him?
Is it not God who permitted Satan to be the ruler for the main time?
Is it not the same God who promised to judge Satan and all his corulers? Genesis 3:15 compare to Daniel 2:44

Of course all worldly politicians are permitted to be there so that they can continue maintaining law and order before God's Kingdom comes to wipe them all away therefore they are serving as ministers permitted by God to be there but when it comes to getting involved in their activities no believer in Jesus should engage them that's why Jesus declined when Satan offered him a position under Satan's government.

So don't be confused, God PERMITTED them not because they're doing God's will but just for them to continue serving as watchdog until God's Kingdom comes to wipe them all away!

Is Satan not God's minister too?

Am not blind
Because this shows you are blind because you don't know the word of God and how God works

When Adam was created God made Adam the god of this world when Adam fell he gave that authority to Satan and Jesus came and died for mankind and rose from the dead and became the head of both man and Satan and took all the authority back but Bible said we shall see Jesus authority fully only on the last day at the appointed time

So
Jesus is God almighty so there was no reason for Jesus to do anything the devil wants at that point when Satan tempt him

Bible shows that Jesus is the head of Satan because Satan has power and has a kingdom and is a principality in his kingdom


Col. 2:10
You are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power”

Bible shows that we are sitting with Jesus who is God almighty so we are above devil in rank devil can not touch us without Jesus permission and without our time on earth been up

Bible shows that Satan trembles at the knowledge of God
Bible shows that even in devil disobedience he is still actually obeying God

Because Bible shows that devil is doing his own work which is to steal and to kill to destroy and and he will receive his wage at the end of the world

So we too should do the work of Jesus which is to bring men to Jesus so that Jesus can give them eternal life and we will receive our own wage too.

So yes devil is the god of this world
But he is not the God of our kingdom that is inside us
but Jesus is his head of all kingdoms but good and bad kingdom

so Jesus is the God of the universe
And both the God of the kingdom of God and the kingdom of darkness.

.. For all authority was given unto him after he rose from the dead.

Glory

Aemmyjah:
2 Peter 2:20-22
20 Certainly if after escaping from the defilements of the world by an accurate knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they get involved again with these very things and are overcome, their final state has become worse for them than the first.
21 It would have been better for them not to have accurately known the path of righteousness than after knowing it to turn away from the holy commandment they had received.
22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog has returned to its own vomit, and the sow that was bathed to rolling in the mire.”


Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For as regards those who were once enlightened and who have tasted the heavenly free gift and who have become partakers of holy spirit
5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things,
6 but have fallen away, it is impossible to revive them again to repentance, because they nail the Son of God to the stake again for themselves and expose him to public shame.


Philippians 2:12
Consequently, my beloved ones, just as you have always obeyed, not only during my presence but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.


John 15: 5,6
5. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever remains in union with me and I in union with him, this one bears much fruit; for apart from me you can do nothing at all.
6 If anyone does not remain in union with me, he is thrown out like a branch and dries up. And men gather those branches and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


Romans 11:20-22
20 That is true! For their lack of faith, they were broken off, but you are standing by faith. Do not be haughty, but be in fear.
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.
22 Consider, therefore, God’s kindness and severity. There is severity toward those who fell, but toward you there is God’s kindness, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise, you too will be lopped off.



Matthew 24:13
13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved




1 Corinthians 9:27
but I pummel my body and lead it as a slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself should not become disapproved somehow.


Philippians 3:12-14
12 Not that I have already received it or am already made perfect, but I am pressing on to see if I may also lay hold on [/b]that for which Christ Jesus selected me.
13 Brothers[b], I do not yet consider myself as having taken hold of it; but one thing is certain: Forgetting the things behind and stretching forward to the things ahead
14 I am pressing on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God by means of Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:12-14

The last one to talk about.

Kingsnairaland:
Am not blind
Because this shows you are blind because you don't know the word of God and how God works When Adam was created God made Adam the god of this world when Adam fell he gave that authority to Satan and Jesus came and died for mankind and rose from the dead and became the head of both man and Satan and took all the authority back but Bible said we shall see Jesus authority fully only on the last day at the appointed time
So
Jesus is God almighty so there was no reason for Jesus to do anything the devil wants at that point when Satan tempt him Bible shows that Jesus is the head of Satan because Satan has power and has a kingdom and is a principality in his kingdom
Col. 2:10
You are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power” Bible shows that we are sitting with Jesus who is God almighty so we are above devil in rank devil can not touch us without Jesus permission and without our time on earth been up Bible shows that Satan trembles at the knowledge of God Bible shows that even in devil disobedience he is still actually obeying God Because Bible shows that devil is doing his own work which is to steal and to kill to destroy and and he will receive his wage at the end of the world So we too should do the work of Jesus which is to bring men to Jesus so that Jesus can give them eternal life and we will receive our own wage too. So yes devil is the god of this world
But he is not the God of our kingdom that is inside us but Jesus is his head of all kingdoms but good and bad kingdom so Jesus is the God of the universe And both the God of the kingdom of God and the kingdom of darkness.
.. For all authority was given unto him after he rose from the dead. Glory

Jesus is the Almighty God yet he was crying for God to save him, shey? Hebrews 5:7

Guy just continue deceiving yourself!

Kingsnairaland:
Apologize for your abuse behavior then I will show you where it says what I said since you couldn't see it there even though it in front of you.

So this is what God means by he will make them blind to see his truth since they chose to do it by themselves

Glory.. First apologize then I will show it to you because you can't see it by your own power.

Describing what I see you doing to yourself is not an insult.

The words "were" in the passages you posted have already sealed it.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the Almighty God yet he was crying for God to save him, shey? Hebrews 5:7

Guy just continue deceiving yourself!

1)
Your problem is you don't know how to separate things in the Bible

Jesus is both man and God almighty

Philippians 2:7

but emptied Himself [without renouncing or diminishing His deity, but only temporarily giving up the outward expression of divine equality and His rightful dignity] by assuming the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men [He became completely human but was without sin, being fully God and fully man].




Bible said God hide all the awesome powers that made him a consuming fire when he came to earth.. That was the only way to function secretly

Remember if jesus openly revealed himself they will not kill him he will not die on the cross the mission will be destroyed

So note the Goal of Jesus was to die on the cross his goal was not to reveal himself to the world openly but to only those he chose to be saved

if God came to the earth with his consuming fire even the womb of Mary will be destroyed by the power so Bible said God hide it

So what it means is that
God took up flesh God prepared a body for himself

I told you many times that Jesus is both man and God almighty

So Bible said every thing that man do he must do it and everything that God do he must do it

As a man he must cry like every one he must shit like every one and he must pray like every one.... He must suffer like every one etc.

Now what are the qualities of man that believe in God when they suffer all men that believe in God cry to God when they suffer so as a man that Jesus is he too must cry to God that was why he cried

You must understand that
Jesus is both man and God

Until you are able to understand this mystery that God hide inside Bible that is when you will know who Jesus is


So the same way only God can receive worship from other men you can see many people worshipping Jesus in the Bible

Jesus is the only one apart from God that called himself God name in the Bible
when he said I AM..

and the children of Israel knew what he was saying and wanted to stone him to death because they know only God bears that name

So as a man which he is he must under go every thing so that he will be able to bear our sins and die Bible said the reason he cried is for him to be a perfect high priest for us

If Jesus did not suffer little little suffering then he can not be able to bear the suffering of the cross before death infact he can't even die if he did not suffer like us

Bible said all the suffering that you have ever suffered in life Jesus pass through it so that he will be a perfect high priest unto us

That why Jesus can do what man can do and do what only God can do

Only God can forgive sins that why Jesus was able to forgive sins when he came on earth.

Go and tell your stories to your pastors who are killing their followers through politics Jesus of Nazareth CRIED to the person who has the power to save him! Hebrews 5:7

Kingsnairaland:
1)
Your problem is you don't know how to separate things in the Bible

Jesus is both man and God almighty

Philippians 2:7

but emptied Himself [without renouncing or diminishing His deity, but only temporarily giving up the outward expression of divine equality and His rightful dignity] by assuming the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men [He became completely human but was without sin, being fully God and fully man].




Bible said God hide all the awesome powers that made him a consuming fire when he came to earth.. That was the only way to function secretly

Remember if jesus openly revealed himself they will not kill him he will not die on the cross the mission will be destroyed

So note the Goal of Jesus was to die on the cross his goal was not to reveal himself to the world openly but to only those he chose to be saved

if God came to the earth with his consuming fire even the womb of Mary will be destroyed by the power so Bible said God hide it

So what it means is that
God took up flesh God prepared a body for himself

I told you many times that Jesus is both man and God almighty

So Bible said every thing that man do he must do it and everything that God do he must do it

As a man he must cry like every one he must shit like every one and he must pray like every one.... He must suffer like every one etc.

Now what are the qualities of man that believe in God when they suffer all men that believe in God cry to God when they suffer so as a man that Jesus is he too must cry to God that was why he cried

You must understand that
Jesus is both man and God

Until you are able to understand this mystery that God hide inside Bible that is when you will know who Jesus is


So the same way only God can receive worship from other men you can see many people worshipping Jesus in the Bible

Jesus is the only one apart from God that called himself God name in the Bible
when he said I AM..

and the children of Israel knew what he was saying and wanted to stone him to death because they know only God bears that name

So as a man which he is he must under go every thing so that he will be able to bear our sins and die Bible said the reason he cried is for him to be a perfect high priest for us

If Jesus did not suffer little little suffering then he can not be able to bear the suffering of the cross before death infact he can't even die if he did not suffer like us

Bible said all the suffering that you have ever suffered in life Jesus pass through it so that he will be a perfect high priest unto us

That why Jesus can do what man can do and do what only God can do

Only God can forgive sins that why Jesus was able to forgive sins when he came on earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and tell your stories to your pastors who are killing their followers through politics Jesus of Nazareth CRIED to the person who has the power to save him! Hebrews 5:7

Yes the one you call jehovah in your hall

Yes God became sorrowful and cried inwordly that what grieve means

grieved == ; grieved feel intense sorrow.

Genesis 6:6

The LORD regretted that He had made mankind on the earth, and He was [deeply] grieved in His heart.

Kingsnairaland:
Yes the one you call jehovah in your hall. Yes God became sorrowful and cried inwordly that what grieve means
grieved == ; grieved feel intense sorrow.
Genesis 6:6
The LORD regretted that He had made mankind on the earth, and He was [deeply] grieved in His heart.

Jehovah never begged anyone to save him but Jesus did!

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah never begged anyone to save him but Jesus did!

So you see why Bible said God hide the understanding of the scripture from their eyes since they see but can't understand

Even after I show you the other one you still refuse to believe in Jesus.

Aemmyjah:
2 Peter 2:20-22
20 Certainly if after escaping from the defilements of the world by an accurate knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they get involved again with these very things and are overcome, their final state has become worse for them than the first.
21 It would have been better for them not to have accurately known the path of righteousness than after knowing it to turn away from the holy commandment they had received.
22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog has returned to its own vomit, and the sow that was bathed to rolling in the mire.”


Hebrews 6:4-6
4 For as regards those who were once enlightened and who have tasted the heavenly free gift and who have become partakers of holy spirit
5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things,
6 but have fallen away, it is impossible to revive them again to repentance, because they nail the Son of God to the stake again for themselves and expose him to public shame.


Philippians 2:12
Consequently, my beloved ones, just as you have always obeyed, not only during my presence but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.


John 15: 5,6
5. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever remains in union with me and I in union with him, this one bears much fruit; for apart from me you can do nothing at all.
6 If anyone does not remain in union with me, he is thrown out like a branch and dries up. And men gather those branches and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


Romans 11:20-22
20 That is true! For their lack of faith, they were broken off, but you are standing by faith. Do not be haughty, but be in fear.
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.
22 Consider, therefore, God’s kindness and severity. There is severity toward those who fell, but toward you there is God’s kindness, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise, you too will be lopped off.



Matthew 24:13
13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved




1 Corinthians 9:27
but I pummel my body and lead it as a slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself should not become disapproved somehow.


Philippians 3:12-14
12 Not that I have already received it or am already made perfect, but I am pressing on to see if I may also lay hold on [/b]that for which Christ Jesus selected me.
13 Brothers[b], I do not yet consider myself as having taken hold of it; but one thing is certain: Forgetting the things behind and stretching forward to the things ahead
14 I am pressing on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God by means of Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:12-14

Not that I have already received it or am already made perfect, but I am pressing on to see if I may also lay hold on [/b]that for which Christ Jesus selected me.
13 Brothers[b], I do not yet consider myself as having taken hold of it; but one thing is certain: Forgetting the things behind and stretching forward to the things ahead
14 I am pressing on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God by means of Christ Jesus.

The Christian life is not a 100 yard dash;
it’s a lifelong marathon so we as we become born again and receive eternal life we still have to do things on earth to grow into maturity

you can’t start thinking, “I don’t need to grow any more” and stop running. Long distance.
Which means just because you are saved forever does not mean you stop living a godly lifestyle and stop doing daily walk with God just because you saved forever

if we remember that growth is lifelong and that even Paul admits that he hasn’t arrived after 25 years, we can bear with one another and be gracious to those who are still struggling with problems even after many years of being Christians

That why Paul said not that i have already received it (the level of Jesus) or am already made perfect, (as the level of Jesus)

which means he is still not yet perfect in physical holiness he still makes mistakes and sometimes falls short in the race

God wants us to be like Jesus that why Paul said am still pressing to wards that goal because God selected us to be like Jesus

So no matter the level you are in Christ Paul wants you to be humble and understand there is still more to do that why he said he still do not consider himself getting hold of (it) that level

So the goal he was pressing for to get is just to be more and more like Jesus on earth which all of us that are in Christ is pressing for that is the reason why we exist and it is why God saved us

Glory.

Kingsnairaland:
So you see why Bible said God hide the understanding of the scripture from their eyes since they see but can't understand
Even after I show you the other one you still refuse to believe in Jesus.

Jesus himself asked his disciples:

“Who are men saying the Son of man is?” Matthew 16:13

They responded:

“Some say JOHN the BAPTIST, others ELIJAH, and still others JEREMIAH or one of the PROPHETS.” Matthew 16:14

Jesus then asked his own disciples:

“You, though, who do you say I am?” Matthew 16:15

Simon Peter answered:
“You are the Christ, the SON OF the living GOD" Matthew 16:16

Jesus said:

“Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did" Matthew 16:17

So mumu churchgoer according to Jesus himself Christ is the Son of God and that is what all his disciples believe till today about Jesus just as i also believe for my salvation:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten SON, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God did not send his SON into the world for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. Whoever exercises faith in him is not to be judged. Whoever does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten SON of God" John 3:16-18

Guy Jesus na SON of God no be GOD himself there are many Gods Moses and Jesus were also Gods {Exodus 7:1; John 1:1} but as for the Almighty God it's only one person and that is JEHOVAH! Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18

If you deny this then you don't believe in Jesus of Nazareth nah another Jesus you dey tok!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself asked his disciples:

“Who are men saying the Son of man is?” Matthew 16:13

They responded:

“Some say JOHN the BAPTIST, others ELIJAH, and still others JEREMIAH or one of the PROPHETS.” Matthew 16:14

Jesus then asked his own disciples:

“You, though, who do you say I am?” Matthew 16:15

Simon Peter answered:
“You are the Christ, the SON OF the living GOD" Matthew 16:16

Jesus said:

“Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did" Matthew 16:17

So mumu churchgoer according to Jesus himself Christ is the Son of God and that is what all his disciples believe till today about Jesus just as i also believe for my salvation:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten SON, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God did not send his SON into the world for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. Whoever exercises faith in him is not to be judged. Whoever does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten SON of God" John 3:16-18

Guy Jesus na SON of God no be GOD himself there are many Gods Moses and Jesus were also Gods {Exodus 7:1; John 1:1} but as for the Almighty God it's only one person and that is JEHOVAH! Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18

If you deny this then you don't believe in Jesus of Nazareth nah another Jesus you dey tok!

If Moses was god then why did Jesus correct many of Moses laws
Moses is not the first and the last only Jesus is
Moses is not an everlasting father Jesus is. Moses is not God with us Jesus is

Jesus told Israel before there was ever Abraham and Moses I have always been existing and they were angry and almost killed him for saying that


God used Moses to deliver Israel to show in the future what Jesus will do for the whole world

Matthew 17

3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Jesus.....
a voice from the cloud said, “[b]This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased and delighted! Listen to Him!...

In Matthew 17
God brought out Moses and other men of God to the disciples... And God commanded all creatures on earth to only listen to Jesus.

As long as you hate Jesus you will never be a part of those who will receive eternal life

Now
God is all in one
And
God is one in all

What this means is God is both (man) son and God

. Glory

Kingsnairaland:
If Moses was god then why did Jesus correct many of Moses laws
Moses is not the first and the last only Jesus is
Moses is not an everlasting father Jesus is. Moses is not God with us Jesus is

You love stories that doesn't add up.

God's word said:

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.Exodus 7:1

So both Moses and Jesus were made like God in their lifetime that's why John never said:
"the word is God"
rather he said:
"the word WAS God"
Because Jesus has left the planet when he served as God in the midst of the Israelites when GOD said he wants to go down to Egypt and deliver the Israelites who was acting as God in Egypt?
Is it not Moses?

MaxInDHouse:
You love stories that doesn't add up.

God's word said:

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.Exodus 7:1

So both Moses and Jesus were made like God in their lifetime that's why John never said:
"the word is God"
rather he said:
"the word WAS God"
Because Jesus has left the planet when he served as God in the midst of the Israelites when GOD said he wants to go down to Egypt and deliver the Israelites who was acting as God in Egypt?
Is it not Moses?

Read that place again.... thee a god....

A god is different from God

Go back and study English..
Bible said all of us are gods because God is our father and creator he made us like himself...
God can only born gods and God is our father

So it is different from God

Yes Moses is a god but not God which is what I wrote up in the other post try to study English

Moses is a god
While
Jesus is God

There is a big difference.

Kingsnairaland:
Read that place again.... thee a god....
A god is different from God
Go back and study English..
Bible said all of us are gods because God is our father and creator he made us like himself...
God can only born gods and God is our father
So it is different from God
Yes Moses is a god but not God which is what I wrote up in the other post try to study English
Moses is a god
While
Jesus is God
There is a big difference.

Bible translators have confused you whether GOD or God or god the title remain the same.

So both Moses and Jesus were God!

MaxInDHouse:
Bible translators have confused you whether GOD or God or god the title remain the same.

So both Moses and Jesus were God!

This has nothing to do with translation
Check English both are not the same

Consult your dictionary or Google it a god is not the same as God

Any human that has a spirit is a god

But the creator of spirit is God..

Kingsnairaland:
Read that place again.... thee a god....

A god is different from God

Go back and study English..
Bible said all of us are gods because God is our father and creator he made us like himself...
God can only born gods and God is our father

So it is different from God

Yes Moses is a god but not God which is what I wrote up in the other post try to study English

Moses is a god
While
Jesus is God

There is a big difference.

If Jesus is God? Who was he referring to as good? God (himself) or himself

Kingsnairaland:
This has nothing to do with translation
Check English both are not the same
Consult your dictionary or Google it a god is not the same as God
Any human that has a spirit is a god
But the creator of spirit is God..

It's translators that differentiate it the original Hebrew writers used the same words for God only the names of the Gods that differs.
Your dictionary was written by humans who set up those meaning for gullible people like you but if you truly want to know go and check other translations God is God or GOD or god.

@ Psalms 110:1

King James version said:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.Psalms 110:1

Peter confirmed that David was talking about Jesus been called to sit at God's right hand in heaven.

So is he the same person who called himself?

Well this is how the NWT puts it:

Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet".

Several times Jehovah spoke to Jesus from heaven yet fools like you still want to force your stupid trinity onto others.

Well whether Jehovah, Jesus or Moses all of them are Gods the only difference is the names and it's clearly written that Jehovah is the Almighty God {Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18}
Jesus himself said he is not the only true God:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.John 17:3

So Jesus is God's Son not the Almighty God.

Aemmyjah:
If Jesus is God? Who was he referring to as good? God (himself) or himself

Before you can understand how Jesus is God

First know how God is

God exists as
The father
The son
The holy spirit

These three things is what made God God

And he created us just like himself
We were created or we are made to exist as
A being that has

A soul
A body
A spirit

The three things in God are one

And this three things in us are one too.

When I come back from church I will tell you who he was referring to.

MaxInDHouse:
It's translators that differentiate it the original Hebrew writers used the same words for God only the names of the Gods that differs.
Your dictionary was written by humans who set up those meaning for gullible people like you but if you truly want to know go and check other translations God is God or GOD or god.

@ Psalms 110:1

King James version said:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.Psalms 110:1

Peter confirmed that David was talking about Jesus been called to sit at God's right hand in heaven.

So is he the same person who called himself?

Well this is how the NWT puts it:

Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet".

Several times Jehovah spoke to Jesus from heaven yet fools like you still want to force your stupid trinity onto others.

Well whether Jehovah, Jesus or Moses all of them are Gods the only difference is the names and it's clearly written that Jehovah is the Almighty God {Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18}
Jesus himself said he is not the only true God:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.John 17:3

So Jesus is God's Son not the Almighty God.

God commanded us to avoid people who abuse and insult and cause strife
.

By calling your self a fool

I won't continue to talk with you unless you apologize.

Kingsnairaland:
God commanded us to avoid people who abuse and insult and cause strife
By calling your self a fool
I won't continue to talk with you unless you apologize.

Better, i never engaged you in the first place so continue with your friends!

Kingsnairaland:
God commanded us to avoid people who abuse and insult and cause strife
.

By calling your self a fool

I won't continue to talk with you unless you apologize.

Apology from MaxInDHouse aka the madness and insanities peddling peddler. That guy build alot of reputation abusing, insulting and given people all sorts of names in order to make his religious organization look good


MaxInDHouse that will say others are mad and added that it shows they are not Jesus followers or true Christians .

The next moment somebody say MaxInDHouse is mad, he jumps into the Bible saying and quoting where Jesus was called mad and that is evidence that he is a true Christian and follower Of Christ


The above are the evidence of madness and insanities peddling from the brains of MaxInDHouse

Aemmyjah:
If Jesus is God? Who was he referring to as good? God (himself) or himself

Since Jesus is referring to the Father as Good, is Jesus bad?

That is how you people manipulate and lie against the scriptures and Jesus to peddle your lies and manipulations of Bible study.

The screenshot below is referring to who?

You asked.....

If Jesus is God? Who was he referring to as good? God (himself) or himself

How will you answer your own question based on your darling Bible as captured in the screenshot below?

If Jesus is God

Which one is if Jesus is God.

Is Jesus God?

OR

Is Jesus god?

Which is correct?

Kingsnairaland:
Before you can understand how Jesus is God

First know how God is

God exists as
The father
The son
The holy spirit

These three things is what made God God

And he created us just like himself
We were created or we are made to exist as
A being that has

A soul
A body
A spirit

The three things in God are one

And this three things in us are one too.

When I come back from church I will tell you who he was referring to.

Since Jesus prayed that his disciples be one just as he and his father are one and Jesus called them his brothers? Is the number not more than 10?
Jesus said the father his greater than himself

MaxInDHouse:
It's translators that differentiate it the original Hebrew writers used the same words for God only the names of the Gods that differs.
Your dictionary was written by humans who set up those meaning for gullible people like you but if you truly want to know go and check other translations God is God or GOD or god.

@ Psalms 110:1

King James version said:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.Psalms 110:1

Peter confirmed that David was talking about Jesus been called to sit at God's right hand in heaven.

So is he the same person who called himself?

Well this is how the NWT puts it:

Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet".

Several times Jehovah spoke to Jesus from heaven yet fools like you still want to force your stupid trinity onto others.

Well whether Jehovah, Jesus or Moses all of them are Gods the only difference is the names and it's clearly written that Jehovah is the Almighty God {Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18}
Jesus himself said he is not the only true God:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.John 17:3

So Jesus is God's Son not the Almighty God.

The one who cannot survive without denigrating others Christians

It's translators that differentiate it the original Hebrew writers used the same words for God only the names of the Gods that differs.

Interesting, is Jesus God or Is Jesus god?

Your dictionary was written by humans who set up those meaning for gullible people like you but if you truly want to know go and check other translations God is God or GOD or god.

The translations you carry as Bible is written by Jehovah who don't deceive Jehovah’s witnesses

@ Psalms 110:1

King James version said:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.Psalms 110:1

Peter confirmed that David was talking about Jesus been called to sit at God's right hand in heaven.

So is he the same person who called himself?

Well this is how the NWT puts it:

Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet".

Several times Jehovah spoke to Jesus from heaven yet fools like you still want to force your stupid trinity onto others.

Well whether Jehovah, Jesus or Moses all of them are Gods the only difference is the names and it's clearly written that Jehovah is the Almighty God {Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18}
Jesus himself said he is not the only true God:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.John 17:3

So Jesus is God's Son not the Almighty God.

In summary who is the screenshot below referring to as captured in your NWT

Aemmyjah:
Since Jesus prayed that his disciples be one just as he and his father are one and Jesus called them his brothers? Is the number not more than 10? Jesus said the father his greater than himself

You're not a GOOD Christian, why are you ignoring your brother/ friend neighbour?

MaxInDHouse:
You're not a GOOD Christian, why are you ignoring your brother/ friend neighbour?

😂
Some people are not worth half a second of your attention
We must give everyone quality
We must give everyone the best answer
What is best is only given to few, not all

Some people here have the honor to get the best answer from me, anytime and anyday- Silence is the best answer for those honorables

MaxInDHouse:
You're not a GOOD Christian, why are you ignoring your brother/ friend neighbour?

You have to ignore because the answer will expose the madness and insanities peddling packed into your brains.

I don quote this one already. Future reference trap

You never see anything yet you will keep running away from your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains when exposed