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I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;
— Revelation 22:18

No one is receiving any divine revelation from God outside of His Holy Word.

tctrills:
You are right but are you suggesting that other books have the same spiritual value as the bible in the Christian world?

The Catholic Bible and KJV has 73 books while majority protestant Bibles contain 66 books.

The difference in the book are called apocrypha! They are dubious to some!

So this is clear!

AbuTwins:
The Catholic Bible and KJV has 73 books while majority protestant Bibles contain 66 books.

The difference in the book are called apocrypha! They are dubious to some!

So this is clear!

It's seems you are saying that anyone or any organization could add whatever books they want.
Again, the Apocrypha was written in the bible era, my question is about books written after the bible era.

tctrills:
Oga stop exhibiting your stupidity. Just because you don't have the right answers doesn't mean you should start throwing tantrums and insults. You are not a kid so stop embarrassing yourself. There have been many people giving intelligent answers to the question so I advisce that you humble yourself and quietly learn from more useful human beings.

If you had common sense then you would have known that this question was foolish and D.O.A because anyone with good training would have immediately seen that God finished all He wanted Say in Revelations hence why He warned that nothing should be added to it or taken away from it.

Yet, you still went ahead to ask about adding to the bible, ain't you Satan?

tctrills:
It's seems you are saying that anyone or any organization could add whatever books they want.
Again, the Apocrypha was written in the bible era, my question is about books written after the bible era.

What is Bible era?
Was there a direct order from Jesus or God to write down anything called Bible?

It is just some books approved by some sets of early church fathers!

Dtruthspeaker:
If you had common sense then you would have known that this question was foolish and D.O.A because anyone with good training would have immediately seen that God finished all He wanted Say in Revelations hence why He warned that nothing should be added to it or taken away from it.

Yet, you still went ahead to ask about adding to the bible, ain't you Satan?

God never said that he finished all he wanted to say, that's just your opinion.

The warning not to add or subtract is also written in Deuteronomy 4.2. Are you saying that every verse written after Deuteronomy 4.2 is unauthorized?

Also, God says we should not add or subtract but he never said he will not add to his words. God is free to add more to his words, he is able to reveal his words to human beings at all eras. He is still able to talk to man.

The idea that God has finished all he wants to say to man and that the last person he ever spoke to was John is actually your personal opinion. It is not scriptural.

You are free to keep up with the insults but at least try to quote from the scriptures and stop spreading your personal opinions.

AbuTwins:
What is Bible era?
Was there a direct order from Jesus or God to write down anything called Bible?

It is just some books approved by some sets of early church fathers!

I agree that the bible is a collection of books approved by early church fathers but my question is, does God still speak to man the way he did in the bible era? If do, what evidence do we have to show for this?

tctrills:
God never said that he finished all he wanted to say, that's just your opinion. ...

Please now let it me go for the more I keep talking the more you keep thinking I am insulting you whereas you lack the common sense to know that when a person stops talking, it clearly means that he has said all he wished to say even if he does not say "I have finished talking".

It's simple ordinary common sense but your generation obviously lack it. Damn many parents should answer for this evil.

tctrills:
I agree that the bible is a collection of books approved by early church fathers but my question is, does God still speak to man the way he did in the bible era? If do, what evidence do we have to show for this?

There's no evidence God spoke to men then!
Even Luke said it in Luke 1:1-4.
He just wrote what many were saying happened at that time!

AbuTwins:
There's no evidence God spoke to men then!
Even Luke said it in Luke 1:1-4.
He just wrote what many were saying happened at that time!

Yea Luke wrote what he learnt from others but Moses heard directly from God, so did John and most others.

Dtruthspeaker:
Please now let it me go for the more I keep talking the more you keep thinking I am insulting you whereas you lack the common sense to know that when a person stops talking, it clearly means that he has said all he wished to say even if he does not say "I have finished talking".

It's simple ordinary common sense but your generation obviously lack it. Damn many parents should answer for this evil.

You are right, you should go and leave the space for intelligent people who don't insult to cover up their ignorance and stupidity.
I showed you a verse in Deuteronomy which I am certain you have never come across because you pastor has not shown it to you.
Proud ignoramus.

tctrills:
Yea Luke wrote what he learnt from others but Moses heard directly from God, so did John and most others.

What did they hear from God?
Many pastors have been hearing from God too.
Infact the last election was really a disgrace that won't be forgotten easily.

tctrills:
A few questions here.
1. What was the covenant?

That Christ should restore life back to mankind which was lost when Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning. 1 Cor 15:22

2. Are you saying that God's covenant with man was not completed until after the book of Revelations was written?

the book of Revelation is part of the new testament which is also part of the new covenant that commences from the book of Acts of the Apostles down to the book of Revelation

3. Many Christians died before the book of revelations was written, did they not have a covenant with God?

So long these Christians started being Christians from the book of Acts of the Apostles, they all have covenant with God

paxonel:
That Christ should restore life back to mankind which was lost when Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning. 1 Cor 15:22
the book of Revelation is part of the new testament which is also part of the new covenant that commences from the book of Acts of the Apostles down to the book of Revelation
So long these Christians started being Christians from the book of Acts of the Apostles, they all have covenant with God

Good so you and I can't decide that the book of revelations ended the covenant. Only God can make such pronouncement.
Since the writings continued after the death of Christ, why did you decide that covenant abruptly ended after the book of revelations?
Or is it written anywhere?

AbuTwins:
What did they hear from God?
Many pastors have been hearing from God too.
Infact the last election was really a disgrace that won't be forgotten easily.

They heard the word of God as written in the scriptures.
And yes we have false prophets but that's not the topic for now.

tctrills:
Good so you and I can't decide that the book of revelations ended the covenant. Only God can make such pronouncement.

no one is saying the new covenant ended with revelation.
Rather, the point is, revelation ended with John who wrote it , but the new covenant continues.

tctrills:
They heard the word of God as written in the scriptures.
And yes we have false prophets but that's not the topic for now.

I agree Moses heard but that John ehn!

Because the old Catholic church decided to end it in revelations.

AbuTwins:
I agree Moses heard but that John ehn!

Anyone can pick and choose what to believe but that is not the point here.
The questions I am asking are?
Did God stop speaking to man at some point?
If so, why? And if not, does his words spoken in modern times have the same impact as in times of old?

paxonel:
no one is saying the new covenant ended with revelation.
Rather, the point is, revelation ended with John who wrote it , but the n useew covenant continues.

Yes my point is, how do you know that revelations ended with John. The idea that John is the last person God spoke to is not biblical or is it? Unless you mean that the very book of revelations ended with John.
Please indicate if what you wrote are just your opinions or if it's based on the word of God.
Maybe we should start by answering, what is a revelation?

tctrills:
Explain your point here before suggesting a book for us to read. What does the book say.

It handles the question you raised that is why I recommend it

tctrills:
Unless you mean that the very book of revelations ended with John

Exactly!
And every other person God spoke to after then, is not included again in the bible.

paxonel:
Exactly!
And every other person God spoke to after then, is not included again in the bible.

So in short' are there other books or revelations as relevant as the bible? If yes, please mention them.

tctrills:
So in short' are there other books or revelations as relevant as the bible? If yes, please mention them.

no other book

OgaNightmare:
It handles the question you raised that is why I recommend it

This is a platform for many. Share your ideas first then recommend. We can't have interest in reading the book unless you give us a reason to. Hope you understand my point here. You book may have all the answers but you need to properly introduce it to us.

paxonel:
no other book

But you just said God continued to reveal even after the bible? Sir which side are you on. You are speaking from both sides of your mouth, You agree that God spoke to people outside of the bible but according to you, what he said to them is not as relevant as what he said to the people in the bible. Is that your opinion or God's?

tctrills:
But you just said God continued to reveal even after the bible? Sir which side are you on. You are speaking from both sides of your mouth, You agree that God spoke to people outside of the bible but according to you, what he said to them is not as relevant as what he said to the people in the bible. Is that your opinion or God's?

your question says as relevant as the bible.

Other books have their own relevance, but not as relevant as the bible pertaining to his new covenant

paxonel:
your question says as relevant as the bible.

Other books have their own relevance, but not as relevant as the bible pertaining to his new covenant

So let's get what you are saying,
You mean God's words have grades? Grade 1, the bible and grade 2, his words outside the bible.
Is this your personal opinion or are you speaking for God?
If it's your opinion, I respect it but then we need to know that it's just you.

tctrills:
So let's get what you are saying,
You mean God's words have grades? Grade 1, the bible and grade 2, his words outside the bible.
Is this your personal opinion or are you speaking for God?
If it's your opinion, I respect it but then we need to know that it's just you.

do you know any book as relevant as the bible pertaining to the death and resurrection of Christ?

Mention it let's see

tctrills:
Please explain better

I’m not saying I’m right but I think the Bible is a cumulation of historical fact relevant to christianity. Thus, our current times as christians will be part of this history for generations unborn.

slickbak:
I’m not saying I’m right but I think the Bible is a cumulation of historical fact relevant to christianity. Thus, our current times as christians will be part of this history for generations unborn.

You may be right but there are some moral questions not answered in the bible such as
1. Slavery
2. Genocide and war crimes
3. Marrying underaged girls
Today we see all these as sins but maybe not in bible times. Don't you think that God's revelations are needed now just as in bible times?

paxonel:
do you know any book as relevant as the bible pertaining to the death and resurrection of Christ?

Mention it let's see

The question isn't about books, it's about God's revelations. You should be asking if God has spoken again to mankind since after the book of revelations.
You seem to believe that everything God said outside the compiled books in the bible is of less quality. And I need to know if you have scriptures to back that up or if it's just your opinion.