AbuTwins:
■ Three Gods right?

Yes, Jesus Christ is God, and no, this is not some endorsement of the trinity doctrine which is of men, lies, and not of God, who instead warned His followers not to submit themselves to the doctrines and traditions of men(including their churches) using His name.

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As is written in Scripture, Jesus Christ is God, and God(the Father) is God, but God(the Father) is not Jesus Christ. This, a logical case of A is B but B is not A. And this is what is clearly explained in all of scripture to all those who will KNOW the Truth of God from the lies of men.

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In Scripture, beginning in the Old Testament, we learn the following of God :
▪︎ God is God of Wrath
▪︎ God is God of Laws
▪︎ God is Good/Righteous
▪︎ God is Faithful
▪︎ God is Love
▪︎ God is True (Word)
▪︎ God is Life
▪︎ All Wisdom, Knowledge, and Understanding are of God
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And of Jesus Christ, we are informed by Him, particularly in John 14 vs 6, that He is
▪︎ God's Truth (Word)
▪︎ God's Life
▪︎ God's Law (one of many) aka The Way
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Now as for the Spirit of Truth whom Jesus Christ said is the Holy Spirit, well, He is, as Jesus Christ made clear, He is subject to Jesus Christ
▪︎ God's Truth(Word) in the person of Jesus Christ

So as indicated, Jesus Christ is born from some of the very same essences that is God(Father) - they are both in synch as far as that which they share. And this explains much of what Jesus Christ said of His relationship to the Father
■ The Father is greater than He, Jesus Christ,
■ He, Jesus Christ, is in the Father, and the Father is in Him(Jesus Christ),
■ All that Jesus Christ gives to you, His follower, is that which the Father gives Him,
■ He, Jesus Christ does only that which His Father bids Him do,
■ He, Jesus Christ cannot do anything apart from the Father,
■ He, Jesus Christ said," “My Father never stops working, and so I work too.”
■ He, Jesus Christ also said, “I assure you that the Son can do nothing alone. He does only what he sees his Father doing. The Son does the same things that the Father does. The Father loves the Son and shows him everything he does."
....etc.

So, Jesus Christ is God. However, since Jesus Christ doesn't possess all of the essences of God inside of Him, God isn't Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
You have been on this forum since 2016 and you are still fighting the same issue regarding the God of Israel yet you somehow think yourself better than those you attempt to argue that nonsense with each time?
Look! Allah of the Muslims cannot make even a piece of himself part of the human soul creation engine which he supposedly created but the God of Israel does not have that limitation. His human soul creation engine, he was able to inject his breath into and was also able to use in making an aspect of himself human as He saw fit. Of course, this clearly means that the God of Israel is NOT the Allah of the Muslims.

AbuTwins:
■ So you have the time to go check my profile? Na you Sabi!
■ No be only God of Israel! You'll see God of Jerusalem soon! All these your trinity like phylosophy no dey gel at all!
■ You lied about Allah having limitations. That he didn't do something doesn't mean He can't do it. He said it many times in the Qur'an that He has power to do all things!
■ While I believe Allah is the only God that created all things, the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jacob and all their generations till Muhammad, I disbelief in the attributes of the Christian God which is a form of trinity as you highlighted! Allah is one and just one! Jesus is His slave, messenger and Prophet! No strings attached! Everything is created by Allah alone! And Allah alone do we worship and seek help from! ■ ■ This is what all Prophets preached till they die!

AbuTwins:
But why didn't Jesus get married?

Why does the Pope not get married?

Why does God have a son but the son remains barren forever?

And what does God need a son for that He can't do alone?

It seems Christians suffer paralysis when they read the above questions!

Kobojunkie:
1. I had to because I was wondering who this new comer is again with this nonsense back and forth on a topic that has been discussed to death on this forum at this point.

2. If you don't even understand that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is an explicit reference to God of Israel then clearly you are no less ignorant yourself. You have to read the book to realize the many stark differences that exist between what you believe and what is in fact written.

3. According to you folks, Allah of the Muslims cannot and does not have a Son, a clear limitation you equally go around attempting to impose on other deities as though your Allah of the Muslims should have the final say on attributes and characters of other deities different from him.

4. You can even go as far as believing Allah of the Muslims is the same as Zeus of the Greeks, but we know that Zeus had many sons, so I am not sure why you think it makes sense to force your idea of all deities when they can't be made to meld.

5. None of the prophets told any of the lies you claim! You don't read at all, do you? Every single one of the prophets of the God of Israel swore allegiance to the God of Israel and the God of Israel alone. None of them swore allegiance to any other deity except He. And He, the God of Israel in no way aligns with the Allah of the Muslims particularly since Israel is His one and only people. .

Alliswell248:


Keep asking stuuuuupid question.....

AbuTwins:
■ That's what was stated in your own Bible. Israel doesn't have a personal God in Islam. Allah is the Lord of all that exists without restriction! You keep talking about limitation. When your God is that of Israel so what of other than Israel?
I know majority if not all of your biblical references were to Israel. This depicts a racist and one nation God. Allah is the Lord of all, Israel inclusive!
■ This is false. Muslims didn't say Allah can't have a son. Even there's a verse in the Qur'an in which Allah says "Had Allah willed to take a son (or offspring or children), He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He created. But glory be to Him! [b](He is above such things). He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.[/b] Qur'an 39:4
Allah is able to do all things! But he didn't chose a son for Himself! He can do it but He didn't do it.
■ I am not forcing anything! Did you see me put a knife on your neck? Where's the force here? Our belief is our belief! The Greek's is theirs!
■ Of course they did in the Qur'an and all of them were Muslims who worshipped one God alone like we do!
I understand your God is that of Israel alone and not of the other worlds typical of racism and discrimination! How will sensible Prophets swear allegiance to the God of Israel alone and not to the God of the whole world?
■ Did the Prophet swear allegiance to Jesus too? And to the spirit? I know you'll always have a theory for that! Bye!

AbuTwins:



Why does the Pope not get married?

It seems Christians suffer paralysis when they read the above questions!

Kobojunkie:
I am not certain where you are going but the reason is simple.

God cursed marriage and childbearing in Genesis 3 vs 16, and equally announced in Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 that your marriages are of the kingdom of earth, and not of the Kingdom of God. Essentially, all this means there is no glory in your marriages to be had by God since all that is cursed by God is unholy and those who wish to achieve Holiness and then righteousness usually focus majorly on doing holy works and abandoning all that is of no profit to the ultimate goal.

Prettychild:

To each his own. Simon Peter who did very great things for God was married. It’s this same Peter that Jesus called a rock upon which he would build his church

Tboymessiah:
NasoLifeBe!!!

We heard they gave birth to a child that has

AbuTwins:
But you are not okay
why didn't Jesus get married?

Why does the Pope not get married?

Why does God have a son but the son remains barren forever?

And what does God need a son for that He can't do alone?

It seems Christians suffer paralysis when they read the above questions!

Kobojunkie:
How do you know he did not later divorce his wife?

Prettychild:
■ How do you know that he later divorced his wife?

Kobojunkie:
I don't know it he did but the possibility is there given Jesus Christ allowed it. So let's not pretend we can model our lives after men we barely know.

Prettychild:
■ The possibility is also there that he didn’t. You are to model your life after Jesus Christ because he is the author and finisher of our faith.
■ You don’t know your great grand parents but you model your life according to good things you heard of them so it is here too

buharibanjo:
The only thing causing paralysis is ur English

AbuTwins:


So what's wrong with my English?

I know I'm adept in English than most of your ancestors!

buharibanjo:
... adept at... *

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never said you are to model your life after His. He instead said those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments and it is those who do that that have His Love and the Father's Love. So when you go pretending you Re modeling your life after Jesus Christ's or His disciples, you do so against Jesus Christ.

2. I don't model my life after any human being, not even my parents. So why would I do it after my grandparents? Man's standard of good is meaningless where God is.

Prettychild:
■ It seems that you just want to talk. What’s the difference between obeying His teaching and modeling your life like His? His behaved in accordance with what he taught or you are looking for the word ‘model’ written in the Bible? SMH! I don’t have words to banter with you abeg

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ lived His Life in submission and obedience to the Old Law of Moses. If you were to model your life after his it would mean you would also have to, against Him, live your life in submission to the Old Law of Moses. Is that really what you do?

Or do you think simply saying you model your life after Jesus Christ when in fact you do none of what he did is all it takes? God hates double mouthed ness you know

erniok:
■ If he did as you claimed, then why did the pharisees and teachers of law accuse him of breaking same laws of Moses.
■ Also, why in some of his messages, he (Jesus) will say, you have heard it said.......but I say unto you........
■ Quote trying so hard to misrepresent my master.

Prettychild:

It seems that you just want to talk. What’s the difference between obeying His teaching and modeling your life like His? His behaved in accordance with what he taught or you are looking for the word ‘model’ written in the Bible? SMH! I don’t have words to banter with you abeg

Kobojunkie:
1. Are you insinuating that Jesus Christ did in fact sin against God?

2. Jesus Christ came to give to His followers a new Yoke/Covenant, different and separate from the Old Law of Moses to follow. Hence the reason why He made clear the differences between what He taught and what was the Old Law.

3. Which master is that?

AbuTwins:


How many of your ancestors knows that?

"Adept in" is correct!

I'm adept in the art of English language than your ancestors!

You may be adept in puzzle making than me!

erniok:
1. Jesus never broke the law, he fulfilled it. In fact, in a place in the scriptures, He said Moses gave them a law because of the hardness of their heart. In fact, he was at loggerhead with the religious leaders of His day because they said He was breaking the law.
2. You claimed he lived his life in accordance with the law which was.incorrect if you study the scriptures.
■ There's nothing to compare about the new and old testament here.
■ My master is the Lord Jesus, who died and rose again. Who is your master .