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Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Abufo: 11:26am On Nov 21, 2023
Islie:
Falana: It’s Dangerous for Judiciary to Sanction 165,000 Voters for Electoral Officers’ Mistakes

•Seeks review of judgements sacking three opposition governors

•PDP asks CJN to probe ruling party’s claim of controlling judiciary

•Atiku: APC’s ‘snatch, grab, run’ agenda inimical to democracy




https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/11/21/falana-its-dangerous-for-judiciary-to-sanction-165000-voters-for-electoral-officers-mistakes?amp=1



The zoo is about to drive itself off the cliff ! when you guys finally abort this handicapped democracy we are managing, i will be here to announce "i told you so"!
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 11:30am On Nov 21, 2023
Christistruth03:
grin


Falana missed out the part where It said that Hoodlums attacked the Polling Units and brought the unsigned undated unstamped ballots which the hoodlums forced Polling Officers to accept at gunpoint but which they refused to sign for
and which there was no BVAS accreditation for .
The Ballots were different from those that were used for Election in those Polling Units
This is a blatant lie.
After the education I gave you and your downloading the judgement you're still making wild claims. Why do you apc supporters find it so easy to tell lies?
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by jrusky(m): 11:33am On Nov 21, 2023
Politicstoday:
The former vice president maintained, “As Justice Dattijo Muhammad said in his valedictory speech, which has also been buttressed by Olumide Akpata, the immediate past President of the Nigerian Bar Association, the judgements emanating from courts in recent times have been questionable and show obvious compromise.

“As Mr. Femi Falana (SAN) put it recently, the judiciary under military dictatorship was much more courageous and had better integrity than what we have today.

“It is obvious that the APC has turned the once respected Nigerian judiciary to a ‘cash and carry’ one where politicians who don’t participate in primaries are named as candidates while actual winners of elections are sacked for flimsy reasons. They simply deliver judgements but not justice.”


Hmm 🤔

Oga tell that Akpa slowpoke to go to hell and tell Atiku to rot in hell he created the mess so they should shut up and for you pls stop nagging let whoever not please been sacked go to supreme court and stop crying.
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by ejimatic: 11:39am On Nov 21, 2023
Islie:
Falana: It’s Dangerous for Judiciary to Sanction 165,000 Voters for Electoral Officers’ Mistakes

•Seeks review of judgements sacking three opposition governors

•PDP asks CJN to probe ruling party’s claim of controlling judiciary

•Atiku: APC’s ‘snatch, grab, run’ agenda inimical to democracy




https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/11/21/falana-its-dangerous-for-judiciary-to-sanction-165000-voters-for-electoral-officers-mistakes?amp=1
. In the case of Aregbesola vrs Oyinlola 2011 the AC cancelled elecions in 10 local governments in Osun State for non compliance. If that of Kano is also established so be it.

Politicians know how they play their games!
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 11:48am On Nov 21, 2023
ejimatic:
. In the case of Aregbesola vrs Oyinlola 2011 the AC cancelled elecions in 10 local governments in Osun State for non compliance. If that of Kano is also established so be it.

Politicians know how they play their games!
Exactly the point!!
If there's case of electoral malpractice or overvoting, the right thing is cancellation of PU result. This idea of sifting through PU votes looking for your opponent's ballot to cancel is totally strange!!
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Invest4growth: 12:03pm On Nov 21, 2023
Sir, law is law until it is amended. That is what we were made to believe

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Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by koboko69: 12:03pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

He is not passing misinformation. Judicial precedent is on the side of the argument he's making.
In your 1 above, one will wonder what business it is of APC whether PDP conducted Congresses or not. SC precedent will refer to APC as a meddlesome interloper

For 2, SC precedent is that elections are assumed to have held freely and fairly in accordance with EA until proven otherwise. In this case, unmarked ballot papers are allowed by s63(2) and the RO is expected to write a report of he's rejecting such ballots. Since the RO accepted them and there's no report, it is assumed that those ballots were validly casted. Note that there's no evidence it is only NNPP that had unmarked ballot casts. More importantly, the 165k ballots were from different PUs in different Wards all over the state. So it is preposterous to think NNPP went from PU to PU all over a state controlled by APC stuffing ballot boxes with unmarked papers and different polling officers and ROs accepted them. C'mon

Clearly u dont know what u are saying. Lol.
What is interloper here? Court ordered that primaries be conducted, PDP ingnored the court, and went ahead to present a candidate, same ish that happened to APC in Rivers state, which made them have no candidate for governorship election, you sre here confusing constitutional matters with internal party party matters the SC ruled on.
Was PDP also a interloper when the court ruled that APC had no candidate for the governorship election in Rivers cos they didnt hold a valid primaries?
If u dont find it suspicious that all the ballots not signed and stamped belonged to only one political party out of how many parties that contested in the election? A whopping 165k ballots, all belonging to one party? you are irredeemable and blinded by emotions. Alaye, go siddon!

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Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by wirinet(m): 12:34pm On Nov 21, 2023
Ay4christ2010:


It can be sir, From the electoral law if the ballot paper is not stamp and sign by the presiding officer on the election day, it make the vote invalid. That's why presiding officer is always told to sign and stamp the ballot paper only when he or she is about to give it to the voters.

So if some hooligans came to hijacked the ballot papers and start tumb printing on it he/she will just leave them for his own security purposes and cooperate with them while those illiterate does not know that the failure of the presiding officer to sign and stamp their ballot papers make all their votes invalid.

Are you now saying that only ballot papers won by NNPP were the only ones unsigned by the electoral officer? Not one vote credited to APC, not one vote credited to PDP or any other party, but a whooping 165,000 ballots won by NNPP was cancelled because they were the only ones unsigned by the presiding officer.

An imperial Court would have asked inec to recount all ballot papers and cancel all those not stamped and signed by the presiding officer and not only sift through the ballot papers and remove only the ones won by NNPP.

This is the first time in the history of elections in Nigeria that one party is being singled put for punishment, while rewarding others for the same offence.
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Christistruth03: 12:37pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

This is a blatant lie.
After the education I gave you and your downloading the judgement you're still making wild claims. Why do you apc supporters find it so easy to tell lies?


You that resorted to insults because I showed you your argument was a complete useless basket Case

You who failed to quote a Single Law or Case

165,000 unsigned unstamped and Undated by any polling Officers are as
useless as the "e" in Tomatoe


It is settled in Law that such an unsigned Document is Worthless!!!

Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Indispensable85(m): 12:38pm On Nov 21, 2023
Falana how did you know it was mistakes from INEC officials? The ballot papers could have been stuffed by political opponents, that's the point the petitioners are making here.
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 12:43pm On Nov 21, 2023
koboko69:


Clearly u dont know what u are saying. Lol.
What is interloper here? Court ordered that primaries be conducted, PDP ingnored the court, and went ahead to present a candidate, same ish that happened to APC in Rivers state, which made them have no candidate for governorship election, you sre here confusing constitutional matters with internal party party matters the SC ruled on.
Was PDP also a interloper when the court ruled that APC had no candidate for the governorship election in Rivers cos they didnt hold a valid primaries?
If u dont find it suspicious that all the ballots not signed and stamped belonged to only one political party out of how many parties that contested in the election? A whopping 165k ballots, all belonging to one party? you are irredeemable and blinded by emotions. Alaye, go siddon!
You mean it was PDP that took APC to court in Rivers State that they didn't hold primaries? The courts have always ruled that it is not the business of other party how a party choose to conduct its business. That's what meddlesome interloper is.
This claim flying around that only NNPP had unsigned ballot is now gaining ground when that fact was never established. APC simply picked ballot papers from different PUs and said they are unsigned. They did not show whether overvoting occurred in those PUs. If there's no overvoting, they means the POs and ROs accepted the ballot papers as valid don't you think?
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 12:46pm On Nov 21, 2023
Christistruth03:



You that resorted to insults because I showed you your argument was a complete useless basket Case

You who failed to quote a Single Law or Case
You're presenting the claim of the APC lawyers as fact. If voting was disrupted due to violence, what does the EA say should be done to the PU result?
Since the APC lawyers claim that BVAS was not used in those PUs, what does EA say should be the fate of PUs where BVAS was not used?
You're only shooting yourself in the foot out of ignorance
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Christistruth03: 12:51pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

You're presenting the claim of the APC lawyers as fact. If voting was disrupted due to violence, what does the EA say should be done to the PU result?
Since the APC lawyers claim that BVAS was not used in those PUs, what does EA say should be the fate of PUs where BVAS was not used?
You're only shooting yourself in the foot out of ignorance


Stop smoking hard stuff

You are the one who needs educating !

That was the Tribunal Judgement!!

The Judges agreed because the polling Officers confirmed it !!!


Don't tell me anything again till you have read the Judgement

Properly!!!!!
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by wirinet(m): 12:53pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

You're presenting the claim of the APC lawyers as fact. If voting was disrupted due to violence, what does the EA say should be done to the PU result?
Since the APC lawyers claim that BVAS was not used in those PUs, what does EA say should be the fate of PUs where BVAS was not used?
You're only shooting yourself in the foot out of ignorance
That's the problem with this verdict. If violence was proven to have occurred in a particular polling unit, it would have made sense to cancel the result of the while polling unit or at worst ask for a rerun, but to isolate votes of one particular party is suspect.

After all ballot snatching and violence is a very common feature of nigerian elections. This is not the first alleged case and it wouldn't be the last, but this is the first time a particular party is punished.
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by ubimagos: 12:55pm On Nov 21, 2023
That's only "IF" they really exist!
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by koboko69: 12:56pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

Exactly the point!!
If there's case of electoral malpractice or overvoting, the right thing is cancellation of PU result. This idea of sifting through PU votes looking for your opponent's ballot to cancel is totally strange!!
This guy is a clown sha. All those "mountain of evidence" brought to the court by your principlal in boxes contained what? What were they trying to do with it? Even in the united states here, one of the strategies used by Donald Trump was to look for ballots that could be canceled due to one mistake of the other. A lot of mail in ballots were discarded for simple errors like no signature on the outer envelopes, or no postmark by postal office, signature could not verifiedz You are here talking about "strange" cheesy

Let me help u

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/california-rejected-100000-mail-in-ballots-because-of-mistakes
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/18/texas-rejected-election-ballots/
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by koboko69: 1:06pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

You mean it was PDP that took APC to court in Rivers State that they didn't hold primaries? The courts have always ruled that it is not the business of other party how a party choose to conduct its business. That's what meddlesome interloper is.
This claim flying around that only NNPP had unsigned ballot is now gaining ground when that fact was never established. APC simply picked ballot papers from different PUs and said they are unsigned. They did not show whether overvoting occurred in those PUs. If there's no overvoting, they means the POs and ROs accepted the ballot papers as valid don't you think?

Oga, go and sit down. U are capping nonsense. Why are u not talking about the fact that no primaries was conducted in Plateau, even after a valid court order? Did u even read the judgement abi you sre just here comparing grapes to apple and just making noise about inter party matters. So if a political party ignore a key provision in the constitution, it should be overlooked as internal party matters.

PDP can also look for un signed ballots and ask for it to be canceled also. Don't they have same access to the ballots like APC?

Let me remind you;

The same court sacked a Senator and three members of the House of Representatives in the state that won their respective elections on the platform of the PDP.

The panel based its decision on failure of the PDP to fully comply with a court order that was made in 2022, which it said directed the party to conduct congress in the 17 Local Government Areas in the state.

It held that an evidence the PDP produced to prove that it complied with the order, showed that 12 LGAs were excluded in a purported congress it held to select its candidates for the 2023 general elections.

The appellate court, therefore, held that though the lawmakers won their respective seats during the National Assembly election that held on February 25, all the scores that were credited them, amounted to wasted votes as they were not valid candidates.


Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Face your obidient movement and stop interlopping in PDP's business oga. cheesy
How youbare crying more than the bereaved amazes me. cheesy
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Johncuppa(m): 1:11pm On Nov 21, 2023
Jorussia:
The huge number of ballots involve in this situation makes it suspicious to me.I don't see how 165k ballots can be error from electoral officers.
But how possible it is again for 165k to enter the box in a APC controlled state and federation?
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by koboko69: 1:26pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

You're presenting the claim of the APC lawyers as fact. If voting was disrupted due to violence, what does the EA say should be done to the PU result?
Since the APC lawyers claim that BVAS was not used in those PUs, what does EA say should be the fate of PUs where BVAS was not used?
You're only shooting yourself in the foot out of ignorance

Talking from both sides of your mouth. You keep referencing EA,the same EA that says a primary should be conducted before a candidate is sponsored but u want us to ovrtlook it as internal party matter cos APC used it as a weapon in court.
The bone of contention is how 165k ballots belonging to just one political party were not signed? All this noise u are making will not change anything. Why are you interlopping in PDP matter, you should be more concerned about proving how Obi won the election

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Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by wirinet(m): 2:43pm On Nov 21, 2023
koboko69:

This guy is a clown sha. All those "mountain of evidence" brought to the court by your principlal in boxes contained what? What were they trying to do with it? Even in the united states here, one of the strategies used by Donald Trump was to look for ballots that could be canceled due to one mistake of the other. A lot of mail in ballots were discarded for simple errors like no signature on the outer envelopes, or no postmark by postal office, signature could not verifiedz You are here talking about "strange" cheesy

Let me help u

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/california-rejected-100000-mail-in-ballots-because-of-mistakes
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/18/texas-rejected-election-ballots/
We're they rejected by the courts or by election officials? The law gives election officials from polling units to the state level the powers to reject election results. Why didn't any of them reject the results based on non signing by the presiding officer. The law specifically gave the election officials the discretion to reject or accept unsigned ballot papers, why did the courts feel they should usurp that power from election official?
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Donake: 2:57pm On Nov 21, 2023
If the 165,000 were not accredited,but you are covered with bigotry and partisan gangsterism to decipher punishing voters who stood to be accredited and voted,only for inec cash and carry blocked brains to forget their jobs.
FreeStuffsNG:
I think he is not denying the possibility that the 165k votes and voters do not exist yet wants to blackmail the judiciary to go procure and assign imaginary non-existing voters to the 165k thumb printed unofficial ballots.

The Judiciary should not fall for any blackmail , the politicians will not get away with playing games and then recruiting opinion moulders to blackmail the Judges. It failed during the PEPT sittings, it will fail again.
Let everyone do the right thing and when you lose, don't be a sore loser.

PDP destroyed itself by taking itself to court in Plateau state yet still want to blame and blackmail the judiciary. The Judges should ignore all of them and punish the politicians who break the law and don't play by the rules. Check my signature for free stuffs!
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by spy24(m): 4:15pm On Nov 21, 2023
Angelfrost:
This is beyond Judicial trends, Mr. Falana.

Nigeria is APC, and APC is Nigeria!


Know this, and know peace. cool


He who laughs last laughs the best
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 4:21pm On Nov 21, 2023
Christistruth03:



Stop smoking hard stuff

You are the one who needs educating !

That was the Tribunal Judgement!!

The Judges agreed because the polling Officers confirmed it !!!


Don't tell me anything again till you have read the Judgement

Properly!!!!!
Keep quiet

You've started with your shining ignorance

You see a statement starting with 1st Respondent and you still claim it's part of the judgement

You need a mental check
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 4:22pm On Nov 21, 2023
koboko69:

This guy is a clown sha. All those "mountain of evidence" brought to the court by your principlal in boxes contained what? What were they trying to do with it? Even in the united states here, one of the strategies used by Donald Trump was to look for ballots that could be canceled due to one mistake of the other. A lot of mail in ballots were discarded for simple errors like no signature on the outer envelopes, or no postmark by postal office, signature could not verifiedz You are here talking about "strange" cheesy

Let me help u

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/california-rejected-100000-mail-in-ballots-because-of-mistakes
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/18/texas-rejected-election-ballots/
I guess in the US only unsigned mail-in ballots of a particular party were cancelled
Yeye
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 4:24pm On Nov 21, 2023
koboko69:


Oga, go and sit down. U are capping nonsense. Why are u not talking about the fact that no primaries was conducted in Plateau, even after a valid court order? Did u even read the judgement abi you sre just here comparing grapes to apple and just making noise about inter party matters. So if a political party ignore a key provision in the constitution, it should be overlooked as internal party matters.

PDP can also look for un signed ballots and ask for it to be canceled also. Don't they have same access to the ballots like APC?

Let me remind you;

The same court sacked a Senator and three members of the House of Representatives in the state that won their respective elections on the platform of the PDP.

The panel based its decision on failure of the PDP to fully comply with a court order that was made in 2022, which it said directed the party to conduct congress in the 17 Local Government Areas in the state.

It held that an evidence the PDP produced to prove that it complied with the order, showed that 12 LGAs were excluded in a purported congress it held to select its candidates for the 2023 general elections.

The appellate court, therefore, held that though the lawmakers won their respective seats during the National Assembly election that held on February 25, all the scores that were credited them, amounted to wasted votes as they were not valid candidates.


Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Face your obidient movement and stop interlopping in PDP's business oga. cheesy
How youbare crying more than the bereaved amazes me. cheesy
Is PDP a party to the case? I don't know how you guys think only NNPP have unsigned ballots yet there was no overvoting in the PU results
Una self
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Kukutente23: 4:26pm On Nov 21, 2023
koboko69:


Talking from both sides of your mouth. You keep referencing EA,the same EA that says a primary should be conducted before a candidate is sponsored but u want us to ovrtlook it as internal party matter cos APC used it as a weapon in court.
The bone of contention is how 165k ballots belonging to just one political party were not signed? All this noise u are making will not change anything. Why are you interlopping in PDP matter, you should be more concerned about proving how Obi won the election
It's internal matter. That's how the courts view it. APC benefited from such claims of internal matter in the past.
Nnpp not PDP
Why are you so confuse
Yet you're confidently typing as if you even understand anything when you can't even discern between parties
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Femeto: 4:32pm On Nov 21, 2023
Una just dey lament. You all should have come together to make sure BAT didn't become president.If the elections were held today he would still win it with the present structure. BAT is an oboolobo that shouldn't have been allowed to smell power. He always wants to control and dominate everywhere.
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Iykolysis: 4:47pm On Nov 21, 2023
BTC1448:

scam rum away
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by DeleTaller: 4:48pm On Nov 21, 2023
Lawyer Falana..... Is it not because of error in Tinubu s credentials that is making some idiots to call it forgery? Yet you want us to accept a result sheets with no Inec stamp... Nawa for you ooo baba falz
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by koboko69: 5:08pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

It's internal matter. That's how the courts view it. APC benefited from such claims of internal matter in the past.
Nnpp not PDP
Why are you so confuse
Yet you're confidently typing as if you even understand anything when you can't even discern between parties

You are deliberatly being mischievous. You are not disputing the facts that EA and constitution clearly states that a primary must be held before a party can sponsor any candidate. That was the same reason APC never had a candidate in Rivers election. You keep shouting internal party affair. cheesy. So internal party affair is bigger than the constitution. Mtcheeew!
Oga, i nor fit waste my energy on you again. Bye!
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by koboko69: 5:10pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

I guess in the US only unsigned mail-in ballots of a particular party were cancelled
Yeye

No be say u nor fit read o. You are beyond redemption. Lmao! Na complete wsste of time with you cheesy
Bye Felicia!!!
Keep screaming internal party matter, nor go prove as your own party win election. Na another matter u dey chuk your mouth
Re: Falana: It’s Dangerous To Sanction 165k Voters Over Electoral Officers’ Mistakes by Christistruth03: 5:38pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kukutente23:

Keep quiet

You've started with your shining ignorance

You see a statement starting with 1st Respondent and you still claim it's part of the judgement

You need a mental check


Ok

So why did the Judges agree and find in their Favor then.

Your Noise making is not Knowledge
Exhibition of arrogance and Ignorance is not Knowledge

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