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Janosky:
The same ghost has given a different and conflicting interpretation

Janosky: The guy blends his quasi-judaism with Christendom's 3 deities worship.

Janosky: Worshipping 3 spirits/deities

Janosky: Worship your 3 deities.

Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

the never ending lies and blasphemies of lost fraud jw janosky

The Holy Spirit of course doesn't give conflicting information,
but you are loving to lie and blaspheme HIM right down to your death

and you are further loving to blaspheme The Christian God and Christ and Holy Spirit, of course,
calling Them "3 deities" which means "3 gods"

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Christemdom is all of Christianity, you people are so dum, aren't you:

Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.

OLAADEGBU:
"Then the men turned away from there and went toward Sodom, while Abraham was still standing before the Lord," (Genesis 18:22).
Now tell me how many men went toward Sodom and how many remained standing with Abraham?

The three of them are angels!

One is Michael who always stand for the salvation of faithful people {Daniel 12:1} while the other two were sent to deliver judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah Michael represented the interest of faithful people to verify that all the inhabitants of the city worth to be destroyed because of all the things God used Michael to create humans are most precious to him {Proverbs 8:31} that's why he is always found at every scene where faithful servants of God need to be saved! Daniel 3:25

It's the same Michael who came as Jesus of Nazareth anyone who has seen him has seen what we need to see in Jehovah but don't think any of those angels is Jehovah Himself because no human can see Jehovah and live! John 1:18 compare to Exodus 33:20

That's the truth Mr Trinity!

johnw47:
Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

the never ending lies and blasphemies of lost fraud jw janosky

The Holy Spirit of course doesn't give conflicting information,
but you are loving to lie and blaspheme HIM right down to your death

and you are further loving to blaspheme The Christian God and Christ and Holy Spirit, of course,
calling Them "3 deities" which means "3 gods"

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Christemdom is all of Christianity, you people are so dum, aren't you:

Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.

You are spot on, brother. Those Pharisees are of the same stock with these JWs. See how they took up stones against our Lord Jesus Christ because He claimed the title belonging to God just as these brainwashed fanatics are denying the deity of Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
The three of them are angels!

One is Michael who always stand for the salvation of faithful people {Daniel 12:1} while the other two were sent to deliver judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah Michael represented the interest of faithful people to verify that all the inhabitants of the city worth to be destroyed because of all the things God used Michael to create humans are most precious to him {Proverbs 8:31} that's why he is always found at every scene where faithful servants of God need to be saved! Daniel 3:25

It's the same Michael who came as Jesus of Nazareth anyone who has seen him has seen what we need to see in Jehovah but don't think any of those angels is Jehovah Himself because no human can see Jehovah and live! John 1:18 compare to Exodus 33:20

That's the truth Mr Trinity!

I know that you’ve been indoctrinated into believing that Jesus Christ, my Lord and Saviour is angel Michael but you should know that no angel will accept the worship of man without forbidding them of according what belongs to God to them. Jesus did not only accept worship but shares the same title with Yahweh.

OLAADEGBU:
I know that you’ve been indoctrinated into believing that Jesus Christ, my Lord and Saviour is angel Michael but you should know that no angel will accept the worship of man without forbidding them of according what belongs to God to them. Jesus did not only accept worship but shares the same title with Yahweh.

Guy, Jesus is one of the sons of God and sons of God according to the Bible are angels.

OLAADEGBU:
I know that you’ve been indoctrinated into believing that Jesus Christ, my Lord and Saviour is angel Michael but you should know that no angel will accept the worship of man without forbidding them of according what belongs to God to them. Jesus did not only accept worship but shares the same title with Yahweh.

Acts 2:36
[36]Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

So what was Jesus before God made him lord and Messiah or Christ?

What title? Even Mohammad was a lord. Many humans were called lords. Even God himself called humans gods.

What worship did Jesus accept, just paying homage or prostrating to someone or the one Jesus himself said true believers would render to the Father in spirit and truth at John 4?

cornelboy:
Acts 2:36
[36]Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

So what was Jesus before God made him lord and Messiah or Christ?

What title? Even Mohammad was a lord. Many humans were called lords. Even God himself called humans gods.

What worship did Jesus accept, just paying homage or prostrating to someone or the one Jesus himself said true believers would render to the Father in spirit and truth at John 4?

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cornelboy:
Acts 2:36
[36]Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

So what was Jesus before God made him lord and Messiah or Christ?

What title? Even Mohammad was a lord. Many humans were called lords. Even God himself called humans gods.

What worship did Jesus accept, just paying homage or prostrating to someone or the one Jesus himself said true believers would render to the Father in spirit and truth at John 4?

I asked the idiot a question which he ran away from:
Since Kumuyi failed to erase military service from the heart of his followers what will happen if Nigeria and Liberia are at war and Deeperlifer soldiers from both countries are fighting for their country, won't they kill Kumuyi?
The fool refused to answer only to come back with the gibberish below:

OLAADEGBU:
I know that you’ve been indoctrinated into

Now who is indoctrinated between JWs and his pagan misinformed churchgoers?
Jehovah's Witnesses have learned that worshipers of the God of Abraham must have LOVE among themselves {John 13:34-35} but this fool can't answer why his own church member from other countries can't love him in the face of politics yet he's claiming believer in Jesus the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, Jesus is one of the sons of God and sons of God according to the Bible are angels.

What angel shares God’s title claiming to be the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the First and the Last?

OLAADEGBU:
What angel shares God’s title claiming to be the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last?

The first angel called "FIRSTBORN"

Colossians 1:15

MaxInDHouse:
The first angel called "FIRSTBORN"

Colossians 1:15

What you are saying is that an “angel” is also Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the First and the Last, no?

cornelboy:
Acts 2:36
[36]Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

So what was Jesus before God made him lord and Messiah or Christ?

What title? Even Mohammad was a lord. Many humans were called lords. Even God himself called humans gods.

What worship did Jesus accept, just paying homage or prostrating to someone or the one Jesus himself said true believers would render to the Father in spirit and truth at John 4?

Tell us who you think shares God’s title with Him. Who is the Saviour?

OLAADEGBU:
What you are saying is that an “angel” is also Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the First and the Last, no?

The first angel directly created by God is called the "Archangel" most of his set who were created through him will be destroyed because they became rebellious so he is the first to be created and he will see their end making him the first and he will also last forever.

Can you explain why he is called FIRSTBORN?
Is there any firstborn that's not part of those being born?

MaxInDHouse:
The first angel directly created by God is called the "Archangel" most of his set who were created through him will be destroyed because they became rebellious so he is the first to be created and he will see their end making him the first and he will also last forever.

Can you explain why he is called FIRSTBORN?
Is there any firstborn that's not part of those being born?

Don't mind him
He thinks that the term angel are ordinary spirit messenger
Angel's are spirit creatures or Sons of God
Is Jesus not an angel?

MaxInDHouse:
The first angel directly created by God is called the "Archangel" most of his set who were created through him will be destroyed because they became rebellious so he is the first to be created and he will see their end making him the first and he will also last forever.

Is the “archangel” also the Saviour, since you insist that he is the Alpha and Omega?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you explain why he is called FIRSTBORN?
Is there any firstborn that's not part of those being born?

Jesus as the Firstborn only refers to supremacy or priority. Jesus is not created; He is the Creator. The term firstborn is a title. Israel as a first born, Ephraim as a firstborn does not imply that they were first created or born. It only means priority.

OLAADEGBU:
Is the “archangel” also the Saviour, since insist that he is the Alpha and Omega?



Jesus as the Firstborn only refers to supremacy or priority. Jesus is not created; He is the Creator. The term firstborn is a title. Israel as a first born, Ephraim as a firstborn does not imply that they were first created or born. It only means priority.

Whether na Israel or na Ephraim or na Jesus, all came from someone, all had a Father, all were addressed as Son of...

So you want to tell me that the archangel, the chief of God's angel cannot play a role as Saviour if the world?

Aemmyjah:
Whether na Israel or na Ephraim or na Jesus, all came from someone, all had a Father, all were addressed as Son of...

So you want to tell me that the archangel, the chief of God's angel cannot play a role as Saviour if the world?

Both Father and Son are titles. Their only One Father just as their is only One Son and both is One God. Just as the Husband and Wife are titles they are both Human. There is One God and the is one Humanity.

There is equally One Saviour.

Aemmyjah:
Don't mind him
He thinks that the term angel are ordinary spirit messenger
Angel's are spirit creatures or Sons of God
Is Jesus not an angel?

Jesus is Yahweh, not an angel!

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus is Yahweh, not an angel!

So Jesus came to represent himself and was pretending to pray to him and Stephen saw him standing at his own right hand?

OLAADEGBU:
Both Father and Son are titles. Their only One Father just as their is only One Son and both is One God. Just as the Husband and Wife are titles they are both Human. There is One God and the is one Humanity.

There is equally One Saviour.

The husband and wife are not two distinct people but just one person with different titles shey?

Aemmyjah:
The husband and wife are not two distinct people but just one person with different titles shey?

Husband and wife are two distinct persons just as the Father and the Son are two distinct Persons. The husband is the head of the wife and both are human. The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons but remain One God.

OLAADEGBU:
Husband and wife are two distinct persons just as the Father and the Son are two distinct Persons. The husband is the head of the wife and both are human. The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons but remain One God.

Husband and wife are humans. Are they the same person?
Jesus CHRIST and Yahweh are spirits invisible and in heaven. They are not the same

Aemmyjah:
Husband and wife are humans. Are they the same person?
Jesus CHRIST and Yahweh are spirits invisible and in heaven. They are not the same

As the husband and wife are human but different persons, Our Lord Jesus Christ, The Only begotten Son of God, The Father And The Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons but One God. The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Holy Spirit and vice versa but they are all One God. The husband is not the wife just as the wife is not the husband but they are both human. Do you see the difference and similarities?

OLAADEGBU:
Is the “archangel” also the Saviour, since you insist that he is the Alpha and Omega?

Being a saviour has to do with God's approval to lead people to salvation so Jesus can't save himself if not because God chose him to save mankind. That differs from the beginning and the ending (alpha and Omega) simply means this person knows when badness began and he will be there to end it.

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus as the Firstborn only refers to supremacy or priority. Jesus is not created; He is the Creator. The term firstborn is a title. Israel as a first born, Ephraim as a firstborn does not imply that they were first created or born. It only means priority.

The word "FIRSTBORN" trashed your arguments because it indicates that this person was Born /Created!

OLAADEGBU:
The Father And The Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons but One God.

Now this is what right thinking people call "indoctrination"

OLAADEGBU:
As the husband and wife are human but different persons, Our Lord Jesus Christ, The Only begotten Son of God, The Father And The Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons but One God. The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Holy Spirit and vice versa but they are all One God. The husband is not the wife just as the wife is not the husband but they are both human. Do you see the difference and similarities?

You're not even making sense
Your illustration is not fitting
Concerning Jesus, how he illustrated and mentioned his relationship with God is father and son.
You used husband and wife
Still, common sense tells me that husband and wife cannot apply to the same person. Does your sense tell you something different?

OLAADEGBU:
Husband and wife are two distinct persons just as the Father and the Son are two distinct Persons. The husband is the head of the wife and both are human. The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons but remain One God.

God is a spirit
Jesus is a spirit
Angels are spirits
Satan is a spirit
Demons are spirits


Are they One?

MaxInDHouse:
Being a saviour has to do with God's approval to lead people to salvation so Jesus can't save himself if not because God chose him to save mankind. That differs from the beginning and the ending (alpha and Omega) simply means this person knows when badness began and he will be there to end it.

The Saviour is different from a saviour, don't get it twisted. There is only One Saviour of mankind, Jesus Christ who is the Alpha and Omega. Yahweh would not share His glory with anyone.

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).

MaxInDHouse:
The word "FIRSTBORN" trashed your arguments because it indicates that this person was Born /Created!

Some cults argue that because Jesus is the "firstborn of creation" (Colosians 1:15), He is a created being and hence cannot be truly God.  Biblically, however, Christ was not created but is the Creator (Colosians 1:16; John 1:3). 

The term firstborn, defined biblically, means Christ is "the first in rank" and "pre-eminent" over the creation He brought into being.

OLAADEGBU:
The Saviour is different from a saviour, don't get it twisted. There is only One Saviour of mankind, Jesus Christ who is the Alpha and Omega. Yahweh would not share His glory with anyone.



Some cults argue that because Jesus is the "firstborn of creation" (Colosians 1:15), He is a created being and hence cannot be truly God.  Biblically, however, Christ was not created but is the Creator (Colosians 1:16; John 1:3). 

The term firstborn, defined biblically, means Christ is "the first in rank" and "pre-eminent" over the creation He brought into being.

So first in rank means he was not created shey?
De play

Of course, Jehovah appointed him as the saviour of mankind

Remember John 3:16. God sent his own son to save the world

Aemmyjah:
So first in rank means he was not created shey?
De play

Of course, Jehovah appointed him as the saviour of mankind

Remember John 3:16. God sent his own son to save the world

Remember that just as the husband has been appointed to lead the wife does not mean that he is superior to the wife, it just marriage is organised. They are both equal in essence before God and they are both human. The fact that the Father sent the Son does not mean that the Father is greater than the Son, it is just the way the Godhead operates. They are three in One. They are One God.

OLAADEGBU:
The Saviour is different from a saviour, don't get it twisted. There is only One Saviour

So who saved Jesus?


During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could SAVE him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to SAVE him from death, and was heard in that he feared;Hebrews 5:7 KJV

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to SAVE him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7 NWT

OLAADEGBU:
Here some pertinent questions and answers for you JW's to ponder on as to the nature of our Lord Jesus Christ:

"You are my witnesses, says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe  me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour," (Isaiah 43:10,11).

Is God the Saviour of the world?

If you study this verse I quoted above objectively, you will discover the following:
 
There always has been and always will be only one true God.

There is no Saviour of the world except for this one true God.

Therefore, the Saviour of the world must be the one true God.

This leads to another question:

Is Jesus the Saviour of the world?

I do not think that anyone who has read the New Testament would dispute this.  Even your favourite version of the Bible refers to Jesus as the Saviour: "and of the Saviour of us, Christ Jesus" --Titus 2:13.

Therefore, since:

The one true God is the only Saviour of the world (Isaiah 43:10,11), and

Jesus is the Saviour of the world (Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1),

Jesus must therefore be the one true God.

To deny that Jesus is the one true God, one would either have to deny that Jesus is the Saviour, or say that God is lying to us in Isaiah 43:11.  Neither alternative fits with Scripture.

Does Titus 2:13 teach that Jesus is God our Saviour?

In Titus 2:13 it states the following:

"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify to Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works." Anonymous

Paul is here through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit stating clearly that it is Jesus who is our great God and Saviour unless you are disputing this fact.

A blast from the past.