OLAADEGBU:


Remember that just as the husband has been appointed to lead the wife does not mean that he is superior to the wife, it just marriage is organised. They are both equal in essence before God and they are both human. The fact that the Father sent the Son does not mean that the Father is greater than the Son, it is just the way the Godhead operates. They are three in One. They are One God.

OLAADEGBU:


Remember that just as the husband has been appointed to lead the wife does not mean that he is superior to the wife, it just marriage is organised. They are both equal in essence before God and they are both human. The fact that the Father sent the Son does not mean that the Father is greater than the Son, it is just the way the Godhead operates. They are three in One. They are One God.

OLAADEGBU:


Tell us who you think shares God’s title with Him. Who is the Saviour?

Aemmyjah:


Jesus said the father is greater than him
OLAADEGBU say na lie
Bwahahahahaha

OLAADEGBU:



I know that you’ve been indoctrinated into believing that Jesus Christ, my Lord and Saviour is angel Michael but you should know that no angel will accept the worship of man without forbidding them of according what belongs to God to them. Jesus did not only accept worship but shares the same title with Yahweh.

The same ghost DECEIVING YOU, OLAADEGBU revealed to your mentor Martin Luther the Reformer , that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.

Oga, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

OLAADEGBU:


You are spot on, brother. Those Pharisees are of the same stock with these JWs. See how they took up stones against our Lord Jesus Christ because He claimed the title belonging to God just as these brainwashed fanatics are denying the deity of Christ.

OLAADEGBU confused by TRINITARIAN GIBBERISH.


According to the Screenshots PROVEN evidence of "divinity,/deity" Jesus is a god/angel.

Trinity confused OLAADEGBU.
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MaxinDHouse: Jesus deceived Thomas

Janosky:
The same ghost DECEIVING YOU, OLAADEGBU revealed to your mentor Martin Luther the Reformer , that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.
Oga, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Aemmyjah:


Jesus said the father is greater than him
OLAADEGBU say na lie
Bwahahahahaha

Some other cults and false religions object that because Jesus said the Father is "greater" than Him (John 14:28), this must mean Jesus is a lesser God. Biblically, however, Jesus is equal with the Father in His divine nature (John 10:30). He was positionally lower than the Father from the standpoint of His becoming a servant by taking on human likeness (Philipians 2:6-11). Positionally, then, the Father was "greater" than Jesus. -AIG

Aemmyjah:

You said Jesus is Yahweh
Now, God sent Jesus
Does your words even make sense to you?

The Bible says this

Head of woman is the man (husband)
Head of the man is the Christ
Head of Christ is God.

OLAADEGBU says Paul is lying and husband and wife are equal
By implication, Man and Christ are equal just as you say God and Christ are equal. How can you be someone anr be equal to someone?
Na so una de mislead unasef?

Misconceptions of who Jesus as the Son of God is:

There are those who claim that because Jesus is the Son of God, to them He must be a lesser God than God the Father. Among the ancients, however, an important meaning of the phrase "Son of" is "one who has the same nature as."

Jesus, as the Son of God, has the very nature of God (John 5:18; 10:30; 19:7). He is thus not a lesser God.

cornelboy:

What's the title?
God is the saviour.
He saved us through christ.

Janosky:


The same ghost DECEIVING YOU, OLAADEGBU revealed to your mentor Martin Luther the Reformer , that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.

Oga, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

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Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby.
When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.”
Abraham showed immediate hospitality to the three men, inviting them to rest under a tree and preparing a big meal for them.

During their visit with Abraham, the three men warned him that God’s judgment was about to fall upon Sodom and Gomorrah They also promised that Abraham’s wife, Sarah, would have a baby by the same time next year.

Some have suggested that all three of these “men” were angelic beings who appeared to Abraham in the form of men. However, Genesis 18:1 says that it was “the LORD” (Yahweh) who appeared to Abraham.

So, one of the three “men” must have been God Almighty taking on the appearance of a man.
We call such an appearance a “theophany.” When Jesus appears in His pre-incarnate body in the Old Testament,
We call it a “Christophany.”
Whether God’s appearance to Abraham in Mamre was a theophany or a Christophany, we don’t know.
But it does seem clear from the context that one of the visitors was God Himself and the other two were the angels who later visited Sodom and spoke to Lot.

OLAADEGBU:


Jesus said He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the First and the Last. Jesus is the Saviour. Who else shares those titles with Yahweh?

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When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.”
Abraham showed immediate hospitality to the three men, inviting them to rest under a tree and preparing a big meal for them.

During their visit with Abraham, the three men warned him that God’s judgment was about to fall upon Sodom and Gomorrah They also promised that Abraham’s wife, Sarah, would have a baby by the same time next year.

Some have suggested that all three of these “men” were angelic beings who appeared to Abraham in the form of men. However, Genesis 18:1 says that it was “the LORD” (Yahweh) who appeared to Abraham.

So, one of the three “men” must have been God Almighty taking on the appearance of a man.
We call such an appearance a “theophany.” When Jesus appears in His pre-incarnate body in the Old Testament,

Fighttillvictory:


i think that is God the holyspirit in man form

cornelboy:

Humans are gods, stones and gold are gods, Allah is God, Buddha is God, they all share title "God" with Yahweh. So they're the same with Yahweh.

cornelboy:


Humans are gods, stones and gold are gods, Allah is God, Buddha is God, they all share title "God" with Yahweh. So they're the same with Yahweh.

Janosky:


The same ghost DECEIVING YOU, OLAADEGBU revealed to your mentor Martin Luther the Reformer , that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.

Oga, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

OLAADEGBU:


You do not disappoint when we say you belong to a cult:

OLAADEGBU:


This is why I insist that JW organisation is a cult:

cornelboy:

Humans are gods, stones and gold are gods, Allah is God, Buddha is God, they all share title "God" with Yahweh. So they're the same with Yahweh.

Aemmyjah:



What is nature of something or someone?

English don fail you

OLAADEGBU:
Was Jesus created?

This is another half truth and lie that the Watchtower magazine use in deceiving folks that Jesus Christ was created and not begotten. Let's study the bible text below to arrive at the truth.

"Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him. And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.."  (Colossians 1:12-17).

Now let's focus on Colossians 1:15:

Does Colossians 1:15 highligted above teach that Jesus was created?

You will see here that Jesus is called the "first-born" of all creation.   The term "first-born" here does not imply "first-created" those two words mean two different things.   

You can see from the following points that Paul was not teaching that Jesus was created and he was definitely not saying that He was the firstborn of all creation: 

Birth and creation are not equivalent terms.  For example, the Bible teaches that Jesus was born of a virgin, but this does not mean that Jesus was created the day He was born of Virgin Mary and since birth and creation happen at different times, they cannot mean the same thing.

There are two different Greek words for "first-born" and "first-created" and Paul used the word which means "first-born" not "first-created"

Paul was not teaching that Jesus Christ is a created being because he further taught that Jesus Christ was really the Creator of all things.  If all things were created by Christ, He  cannot be created, otherwise there is something that Christ did not create and this verse would be in error when it states that Christ created all things.

Hebrews 1:10 and John 1:3 confirms that:

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Creator of everything that has been created and thus He must not be created, but God.

What does the title "first-born" mean?

Read what reputable Bible scholars say:

"This title refers to Christ's preeminent position and sovereignty over creation, not that He Himself is a part of creation.  In the Old Testament, the first-born had certain rights and a certain status, such as preeminence, a double share of the inheritance, the right of the priesthood, and supremacy.  And it can be distinctly seen from Genesis 49:3 that the meaning "priority of birth" or in "in time" has been overshadowed and even sometimes lost to the implication of the term meaning "supremacy" or "preeminence."  In other words, one does not have to have been "born first" to be called "first-born" because the term's primary meaning came to be "preeminence" and "supremacy," sometimes with nothing to do about birth."

When Paul calls Jesus the first-born, He is saying that Jesus has all the rights of the first-born and that He has the first-born status of supremacy and preeminence.  When Paul adds that He is the first-born of all creation, He is merely specifying what Christ's preeminence (i.e., His first-born status) applies to -- namely, all creation.

Furthermore, this passage clearly teaches Christ's deity.  Since the Uncreated Creator alone created all things (Isaiah 44:24; Hebrews 3:4), and Colossians tells us that Christ is the Creator, we can then conclude that Jesus is the Uncreated Creator.

Other Bible scholars have demonstrated that the word "born" does not mean to be "created" when we look at it from Jesus' title "Son of God."  Don't misconstrue this to mean that Jesus Christ must have come into existence at some point and that He is less than God, thinking that He is the Son of God, and not God, in just the same way that a human son comes into existence after their human father.  This might sound plausible at first, but upon proper observation it becomes clear that this cannot be the case. The Bible is very clear in defining the title Son of God" to mean that Jesus is of the same nature as God, just like a child is of the same nature as their parent.  And if Jesus Christ has God's nature, then He is, by definition, God, and therefore without a beginning.

OLAADEGBU:


See your answer here especially in the last sentence in the post quoted below if that will help.

Aemmyjah:


Pointless claims
Jesus is God
Jesus is part of the Trinity
Jesus is equal to God
Keep deceiving yourself

OLAADEGBU:


This is why we are admonished not to cast our pearls before the swine.

OLAADEGBU:


You believe the above mentioned share the same titles as Yahweh?

cornelboy:


Are all the Gods of Egypt and philistines in the Bible same or equal with Yahweh just because they share the same title "God" with Yahweh?

OLAADEGBU:


You have just removed all doubts that you truly belong to a dangerous cult.

OLAADEGBU:


You have just removed all doubts that you truly belong to a dangerous cult.

You have just removed all doubts that you truly do NOT use your God given brain.

My brother asked you an intelligent, salient question to make his point.

But you resort to DECEIVE YOURSELF.

Janosky:

You have just removed all doubts that you truly do NOT use your God given brain.
My brother asked you an intelligent, salient question to make his point. But you resort to DECEIVE YOURSELF.

OLAADEGBU:


This is why I insist that JW organisation is a cult:

Some other cults and false religions object that because Jesus said the Father is "greater" than Him (John 14:28), this must mean Jesus is a lesser God. Biblically, however, Jesus is equal with the Father in His divine nature (John 10:30). He was positionally lower than the Father from the standpoint of His becoming a servant by taking on human likeness (Philipians 2:6-11). Positionally, then, the Father was "greater" than Jesus. -AIG