We are struggling against set piece. It’s time we move away from Sylva, we can’t be depending on his leadership.

𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: Carlo Ancelotti’s renewal is now a matter of weeks. Real Madrid want to finalize Ancelotti’s renewal before Christmas. Brazil are waiting for him but Ancelotti prioritizes Real Madrid. (𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗲𝘃𝗼)

did Brazil dirty, anyways this means no xabi Alonso,it Barca smart they'll poach him

Ibime:


I have enough evidence from 99% of our other youth players whose age is deflated

Burden of proof is on anyone who claims a Nigerian Under17 is Under17, not me.

You seem so sure of this

Evidence boku be that
But he look U17 in that picture someone posted

Ballzproblem2:
𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: Carlo Ancelotti’s renewal is now a matter of weeks. Real Madrid want to finalize Ancelotti’s renewal before Christmas. Brazil are waiting for him but Ancelotti prioritizes Real Madrid. (𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗲𝘃𝗼)

did Brazil dirty, anyways this means no xabi Alonso,it Barca smart they'll poach him

We should be scouting Alonso should in case Pochettino decide to quit.

Ibime:


Tell your story to the Gods

Even Mikel is an age cheat. Mikel was already finished completely 5 years ago at 31 in Middlesbrough

If we check well, if not for benching, he done pafuka since 2016 if put under the first team microscope.

These countries you mention in Europe have birth registry, National health records that follow you from birth to death and NI number that follows you from the age of 15, all recorded online, you think you are talking about Bongo countries? Travel small.

Non-age cheat in Nigeria is 1 in 1,000. I cannot name a single one in the last 30 years except those born abroad. That's why you dominate Under 17 and flop at men's level. Keep lying to yourself country go better with self delusion.

I've looked into Osimhen and I will put 3 years on his age, he is one of the best ones in that aspect, him and Taiwo Amwoniyi. Rule of thumb is usually 5 years.

Oga no be matter of travel small age cheats Dey sup for all those countries wey I mention, google am, you feel say na everybody for there dem born for hospital ni especially immigrants and poor folks who couldn't obviously afford good health services from the scratch, but them go lock up and hardly reveal their shit except to close confidants unlike we Africans wey go rush go press at any small thing, na whity (football agent) wey dey close to one of my guys yarn us some of these things I dey tell you so
I followed that u-17 team under John obuh and I can almost vouch for osimhen and nwakali even though I never see their birth certificate, they also brought in one us based boy like that bamgboye, if them say no be from US e come you go shaparly drag am, as for Mikel he was playing as at age 33 or 34 at stoke city few years back after coming from I think china or turkey

Shegzdave:

You seem so sure of this

Evidence boku be that
But he look U17 in that picture someone posted

That picture also look 19 to 23 with no shaking. He does not have sideburns which join up with goatee even now, you look naturally younger when sideburns no full ground. Go and check Babayaro picture at under 17, Baba finished at 28 years old.

This is his picture 10 years ago exactly, that is a 17 year old boy, 16 at best. I put him at 27 now, 26 at best. The picture is definitely not that of a 14 year old

Shegzdave:

You seem so sure of this

Evidence boku be that
But he look U17 in that picture someone posted

See osimhen with his head like punctured tire in those pics and tell me you believe he's anything close to 20 in those pics, like someone said imagine haaland was born here with his rugged face, na aburo Haaland we go dey call uzoho when he stands near him, watch the ongoing u17 world cup and look at the kids from Mali and Senegal compared to their counterparts from France, Germany and Brazil, you might get confused. Nobody is denying our propensity for age cheating as it haff tey but there are also some few exceptions as well as it not only happening in our part of the world

Kilishihunter:

Oga no be matter of travel small age cheats Dey sup for all those countries wey I mention, google am, you feel say na everybody for there dem born for hospital ni especially immigrants and poor folks who couldn't obviously afford good health services from the scratch, but them go lock up and hardly reveal their shit except to close confidants unlike we Africans wey go rush go press at any small thing, na whity (football agent) wey dey close to one of my guys yarn us some of these things I dey tell you so
I followed that u-17 team under John obuh and I can almost vouch for osimhen and nwakali even though I never see their birth certificate, they also brought in one us based boy like that bamgboye, if them say no be from US e come you go shaparly drag am, as for Mikel he was playing as at age 33 or 34 at stoke city few years back after coming from I think china or turkey

I spoke about European countries, not the other bongo countries you mentioned. In South America, I can only vouch 100% for Argentina, Uruguay and Chile, however I can still vouch for 95% of Brazilians because we see them still playing at high level at 34, 35, 36 unlike Nigeria where almost all payers without exception pafuka from 28 to 32.

Mikel was finished at Middlesbrough in 2019. That's 5 years ago at the age of 31, when his mates are still going at very high level till 35.

You want to vouch for the age of someone whose name is Michael John Obinna, and NFF made passport for him that spells his name as Mikel. His identity is already a fraud ab initio, and anything that comes with that identity such as age is under question. Dey play..

Ibime:


I spoke about European countries, not the other bongo countries you mentioned. In South America, I can only vouch 100% for Argentina, Uruguay and Chile, however I can still vouch for 95% of Brazilians because we see them still playing at high level at 34, 35, 36 unlike Nigeria where almost all payers without exception pafuka from 28 to 32.

Mikel was finished at Middlesbrough in 2019. That's 5 years ago at the age of 31, when his mates are still going at very high level till 35.

You want to vouch for the age of someone whose name is Michael John Obinna, and NFF made passport for him that spells his name as Mikel. His identity is already a fraud ab initio. Dey play..

Na osimhen and nwakali I dey talk senior man, Mikel might be an age cheat all right (my goof) but I as well believe as the years went by the stuff started reducing even though of course they will always be there, if you see this our last u17 set that got knocked out in afcon u17, walai you sef go believe say at least 50% na confirm age

hensben:
We should be scouting Alonso should in case Pochettino decide to quit.

why would pochettino decide to quit lol.

Englishisamust:

Osihmen that was very young in u17 world cup... Many people don't know there is something we call rapid growth.. if halland na Africa dem go dey talk he don reach 30!!!

Look at this Ferguson at 18.

Kilishihunter:

Na osimhen and nwakali I dey talk senior man, Mikel might be an age cheat all right but I as well believe as the years went by the stuff started reducing even though of course they will always be there, if you see this our last u17 set that got knocked out in afcon u17, walai you sef go believe say at least 50% na confirm age

So your best example.in the last 30 years is Mikel and you done back down after small evidence. But now I should trust you with Nwakali and Osimhen.

I have been watching Nigerian football for 30 years now and not one player born and raised in Nigeria has proven his age. The only Nigerian who played consistently to decent level till mid-30s is Wilson Oruma, and na brain he used survive the last 2 years cos you could see it in his body. I have seen over 1,000 Nigerian youth players in my time from under-17 to when they packed up, 80% of them before 30 and the other 20% shortly after. No make me do roll call for you.

I have done my research on Osimhen. This is his picture 10 years ago exactly. This is not a 14 year old boy, this is a 17 or 16 years old boy, maybe even 18, but definitely not 15. So do your calculation from there to find the VAT on his age.

Ibime:


So your best example.in the last 30 years is Mikel and you done back down after small evidence. But now I should trust you with Nwakali and Osimhen.

I have been watching Nigerian football for 30 years now and not one player born and raised in Nigeria has proven his age. The only Nigerian who played consistently to decent level till mid-30s is Wilson Oruma, and na brain he used survive the last 2 years cos you could see it in his body. I have seen over 1,000 Nigerian youth players in my time from under-17 to when they packed up, 80% of them before 30 and the other 20% shortly after. No make me do roll call for you.

I have done my research on Osimhen. This is his picture 10 years ago exactly. This is not a 14 year old boy, this is a 17 or 16 years old boy, maybe even 18, but definitely not 15. So do your calculation from there to find the VAT on his age.

Lol, I backtracked on Mikel cause I remember him playing with Mr P of psquare, but will that one then make me generalize and call almost all of our players age cheats? What of odemwingie back then?
And I don't see how this guy looks 17 or 18 as you claim, Omo you go wicked ooh

Kilishihunter:

Lol, I backtracked on Mikel cause I remember him playing with Mr P of psquare, but will that one then make me generalize and call almost all of our players age cheats? What of odemwingie back then?
And I don't see how this guy looks 17 or 18 as you claim, Omo you go wicked ooh

Odemwingie was not born in Nigeria. You are putting yourself in more trouble with your examples. 😂

Ibime:


That picture also look 19 to 23 with no shaking. He does not have sideburns which join up with goatee even now, you look naturally younger when sideburns no full ground. Go and check Babayaro picture at under 17, Baba finished at 28 years old.

This is his picture 10 years ago exactly, that is a 17 year old boy, 16 at best. I put him at 27 now, 26 at best. The picture is definitely not that of a 14 year old

Ngl, that Osimhen picture at U17 is actually true cause that’s how U17 looks in Nigeria, the face, the head and some facial features, that boy shouldn’t be more than that.

I think the problem is that since a lot of Nigerian lie about their age, we tend not to believe them anymore about their age.

afrodoc2:


Odemwingie was not born in Nigeria. You are putting yourself in more trouble with your examples. 😂

Never said he was born in Nigeria but that same odemwingie moved back to Nigeria as a kid and also played with Bendel insurance after returning again, I perfectly know where I'm driving at doc

Kilishihunter:

Lol, I backtracked on Mikel cause I remember him playing with Mr P of psquare, but will that one then make me generalize and call almost all of our players age cheats? What of odemwingie back then?
And I don't see how this guy looks 17 or 18 as you claim, Omo you go wicked ooh

Odemwingie was born in Uzbekistan

Kilishihunter:

See osimhen with his head like punctured tire in those pics and tell me you believe he's anything close to 20 in those pics, like someone said imagine haaland was born here with his rugged face, na aburo Haaland we go dey call uzoho when he stands near him, watch the ongoing u17 world cup and look at the kids from Mali and Senegal compared to their counterparts from France, Germany and Brazil, you might get confused. Nobody is denying our propensity for age cheating as it haff tey but there are also some few exceptions as well as it not only happening in our part of the world

Exactly
Osimhen looks like the average U17 in Nigeria

Ibime:


Odemwingie was born in Uzbekistan

And moved back to Nigeria at age 2 before fully starting out "professionally" at Bendel insurance, There were also instances to falsify his age like others since it was the norm then too na since na naija Dem pick am from

Kilishihunter:

Never said he was born in Nigeria but that same odemwingie moved back to Nigeria as a kid and also played with Bendel insurance after returning again, I perfectly know where I'm driving at doc

It is not a good example. Someone that was born outside the country and had his birth registered overseas. Unless he plays his whole career in Naija and has no aspirations of playing abroad. Where he wan lie go?

Find someone born in Nigeria. That would be a more appropriate example.

Kilishihunter:

And moved back to Nigeria at age 2 before fully starting out "professionally" at Bendel insurance, There were also instances to falsify his age like others since it was the norm then too na since na naija Dem pick am from

Why he go falsify him age and lose him Russian Citizenship on the off chance he might become a footballer one day.

I'm not sure about moving to Nigeria at 2 but Odemwingie was playing in Russian club academies from the age of 13 to 18 before moving to Benin at 19. Maybe his dad came back very briefly stage 2 but he grew up in Russia. Even his Naija accent no set, sound like something he tried to learn when he was already a grown man

Shegzdave:

Exactly
Osimhen looks like the average U17 in Nigeria

That's why I used that light eke example, had it been he blew up in the future, growing bigger without him sharing his sec school graduation pics weeks after we were knocked out, he will be dragged all around for his age
Even that pic with osimhen wearing the Chelsea jersey still sees him looking quite young, nothing close to 17 or 18 being speculated, Abi is it not some years ago we started hearing many of our guys failing MRI scans, so all of them donning our jerseys are mostly all overage, who them come dey catch?

Shegzdave:

Exactly
Osimhen looks like the average U17 in Nigeria

That age profile is anything from 17 to 21 in those pics. He doesn't look younger than me at 21.

Rewind back 3 years to get better view and tell me if this is a 14 year old.

afrodoc2:


It is not a good example. Someone that was born outside the country and had his birth registered overseas. Unless he plays his whole career in Naija and has no aspirations of playing abroad. Where he wan lie go?

Find someone born in Nigeria. That would be a more appropriate example.

All the Nigerian examples I dey drop lataaro no go gree convince MRI scanning ibime na
But it's Nigeria he really started from so there might still be a slight possibility.

Ibime:


Why he go falsify him age and lose him Russian Citizenship on the off chance he might become a footballer one day.

I'm not sure about moving to Nigeria at 2 but Odemwingie was playing in Russian club academies from the age of 13 to 18 before moving to Benin at 19. Maybe his dad came back very briefly stage 2 but he grew up in Russia. Even his Naija accent no set, sound like something he tried to learn when he was already a grown man

Yeah he later went to Russia but he moved to naija at 2, na better half caste sha
But you see osimhen I'm ready to die on that hill he's 80% legit, he and nwakali, I believe it's his recurring injuries rather than the history of age cheats we've had in this country that's making you hold him for neck

Shegzdave:

Ngl, that Osimhen picture at U17 is actually true cause that’s how U17 looks in Nigeria, the face, the head and some facial features, that boy shouldn’t be more than that.

I think the problem is that since a lot of Nigerian lie about their age, we tend not to believe them anymore about their age.

Don't waste your time on that old man. Fifa even does Mrl wrist scans to determine players age before allowing them to participating in their under age tournaments to avoid age frauds. Osimhen must have bribed Fifa officials to allow him participate in that under 17 tournament.

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Kilishihunter:

All the Nigerian examples I dey drop lataaro no go gree convince MRI scanning ibime na
But it's Nigeria he really started from so there might still be a slight possibility.

I was just critiquing your examples. You should give an example of a Nigerian-born player that played youth football and also played top football into his 30s.

That would be a good example. People born overseas and Nigerian-born players that pafuka by 28 are not good examples.

Ibime:


That age profile is anything from 17 to 21 in those pics. He doesn't look younger than me at 21.

Rewind back 3 years to get better view and tell me if this is a 14 year old.

Evidence

You’ve made up your mind cause of past incidents that made a lot of people doubt Nigeria players age and like you said you’ve seen Nigerian players pafukka but there are exception and since the introduction of MRI, that should clear your doubt on some of the players age

looking at Osimhen, a lot of factors could have contributed to his looks but that young man is within that age range.

Kilishihunter:

That's why I used that light eke example, had it been he blew up in the future, growing bigger without him sharing his sec school graduation pics weeks after we were knocked out, he will be dragged all around for his age
Even that pic with osimhen wearing the Chelsea jersey still sees him looking quite young, nothing close to 17 or 18 being speculated, Abi is it not some years ago we started hearing many of our guys failing MRI scans, so all of them donning our jerseys are mostly all overage, who them come dey catch?

His mind is made up on Osimhen

afrodoc2:


I was just critiquing your examples. You should give an example of a Nigerian-born player that played youth football and also played top football into his 30s.

That would be a good example. People born overseas and Nigerian-born players that pafuka by 28 are not good examples.

Oya no vex baba

Kilishihunter:

Oya no vex baba

I am on your side o.

I just want us to give better examples to defend our case.