VEHINTOLAR:


Lol,what are these dubious Binis from that tiny land even saying for goodness's sake ?! You have no idea the kind of people you're dealing with; we are Yoruba,Omo Alade,Omo kaaro a jireebi ! You can't twist our history,no,it's impossible!

Now,let me educate you a bit,afterall Oranmiyan,my progenitor was seconded to your land,"Ile Ibinu" to organise you and ensure orderliness among you hot-heads,Bini people. So,it won't be out of place for me to educate a poorly informed Bini man like you!

Now,all Obas in Yoruba land have their different individual tittle and appellation which is derived from their respective family's history and lineage called panegyric - "Oriki or Ooki" in Yoruba language. This tells the history of the Oba, his domain and his people. This is why you will see tittles such as "Timi of Ede land" "Ataoja of Osogbo","Ewi of Ado Ekiti" " Awujale of Ijebu " "Olubadan" "Ooni" "Alaafin" etc. Each tittle tells the real story behind the crown. Are you getting it,Bini man ? Oba is a collective word for all and or any king in Yoruba land.

Now, let's talk about Oba of Benin. Before the arrival of Oranmiyan were the Ogisos who reigned and ruled over your land and it's people. Ogiso is a Bini word. Now,when Oranmiyan,a non Bini man,was to take over as a ruler over Bini people,he had no connection with the land or its people,so he couldn't have given himself a native tittle as it was the norm in his native Yoruba land ! He therefore had to adopt the tittle "Oba of Benin" because he knew that's the ordinary tittle for any king in Yoruba land. He couldn't have named himself "Ogiso of Benin" because he was not a bini man !

The word "Oba" itself as a Yoruba word is coined from "OBAtala" now a deity,who was the first Oba in Yoruba land and the first to wear a crown. This can be found in IFA corpus which predates even Oduduwa himself ! IFA is an indigenous Yoruba deity which is being worshipped all over the world today,including at the palace of Oba of Benin.

Note as well that words such as "Balogun","Iya Oba","Asipa","Olori","Oyegun",etc are deeply rooted in Yoruba language and not in anyway Bini words. They have no meaning ordinarily in your native bini's tongue ! Yoruba culture influenced Bini culture greatly and it can be seen everywhere in Benin,especially inside the palace of Oba of Benin.

You guys from that side are just small fries,trust me; E kere si number Yoruba !

sotall:


Stop spewing ignorance!


When the first Oba of Benin ascended the throne, there was nothing like Oba of Benin.

His title was "Omo NOba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo"


It was outsider who found his title too mouthful that shortened it to Oba of Benin.


At this time there was no known king in Yoruba land using the Oba title.

So Oranmiyan never adopted any Oba of Benin title because as at the time Oranmiyan was in Benin, The people were not known as Benins. The word Benin is what outsiders call people that speak Edo language. There is no were in Edo culture where we call ourselves Benin. It came from outsiders and become common.

Now before you go the "ile-ibinu" route, ask yourself what's the meaning of Yoruba.


I guess you know that the word "Yoruba" was given to you by Hausa/Fulani traders and it means "cunning".

Do whatever you like with this information i have given you.

christistruth01:



Obatala dynasty of Ile Ife that the Oduduwa replaced use Oba

sotall:


Obatala is myth!

Never happened

christistruth01:


All the ifo Towns in Yorubaland were founded by the Obatala dynasty of kings and their descendants

Are the Ifo kings a myth

sotall:

Obatala is myth...never happened.

It only existed in folklore and fairytales.

There is no physical proof of Obatala dynasty and whatever they did.

christistruth01:



The Olowu of Obasanjo's Owu descended from Obatala too they are actual thrones and people that still exist today

I put it to you that the History of the Yorubas is as vast as that if Ancient England if not more

sotall:


This is 2023!

You are not supposed to be talking about Obatala in a public forum where serious discussion is being made.

Obatala story at best is a myth and should only be told as a folklore to children in the village under moonlight.


Just imagine someone talking about Obatala in this age...

So you believed Obatala came from Heaven to earth with a hen with five toes, a pigeon, and a calabash containing a piece of dry soil.

LikeAking:


If education couldn’t demasculate the muscles of tribalism in you, then you are in same class with the chimpanzees…

FiraO9:

So you using western English means they are your master's?

Set awon brainless things.

christistruth01:


The fact that your Ancestors didn't preserve your History doesn't mean that everyone else has no History

The Obatala's were the first Dynasty of the Ile Ife kings the Oduduwa dynasty of kings replaced them

The fact that some Idol Worshippers deified Sango doesn't mean that he was not the 4th Alaafin of Oyo , he was

christistruth01:


The fact that your Ancestors didn't preserve your History doesn't mean that everyone else has no History

The Obatala's were the first Dynasty of the Ile Ife kings the Oduduwa dynasty of kings replaced them

The fact that some Idol Worshippers deified Sango doesn't mean that he was not the 4th Alaafin of Oyo , he was

TheOnlyKing:


Ewe shut ur mouth. There’s was an Ogiso era in the Benin kingdom, now we are at the Oba era. Do you know what oba means in Benin?

sotall:


Before you write rubbish...ask yourself what's the meaning of "Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo"


Like i told you, it was outsiders that shortened it to Oba of Benin.


The title " Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo" has a specific meaning together.

Go find the meaning and then stop asking stupid questions

sotall:


This is 2023!

You are not supposed to be talking about Obatala in a public forum where serious discussion is being made.

Obatala story at best is a myth and should only be told as a folklore to children in the village under moonlight.


Just imagine someone talking about Obatala in this age...

So you believed Obatala came from Heaven to earth with a hen with five toes, a pigeon, and a calabash containing a piece of dry soil.

Holla911:


You do not believe in obatala flocktale but believe in that of that of Elijah chariot ride to heaven ?

Holla911:


Oduduwa dynasty didn’t replace obatala dynasty but integrated into it.
Orishanla is the referred god of every Yoruba kingships.

Omoawoke:


Igbos don buy market for Yoruba hand. With the way it’s going, it will get tougher and tougher for Igbos to be accommodated in Lagos.
But remember you guys fired the first shot.
Go back to threads since inception of nairaland, igbos have been known to attack Yorubas and create anti Yoruba threads insulting southwest cities and even then, the nonsense talk “Yoruba girls are dirty”
We are beginning to define the color of your problem and giving you serious problems, don’t cry, it’s long overdue

CoronaVirusPro:
Stop creating useless threads!

FuckingMachine:


Name one Oba that existed before Oba of Benin.
Please don't run away.

sotall:


I put it to you...Obatala never existed.


And when we talk about preservation of history...there is no tribe that does it better than the Edo people..

Everything about our history well-preserved.

Omoawoke:


Igbos don buy market for Yoruba hand. With the way it’s going, it will get tougher and tougher for Igbos to be accommodated in Lagos.
But remember you guys fired the first shot.
Go back to threads since inception of nairaland, igbos have been known to attack Yorubas and create anti Yoruba threads insulting southwest cities and even then, the nonsense talk “Yoruba girls are dirty”
We are beginning to define the color of your problem and giving you serious problems, don’t cry, it’s long overdue

ablejesus26:
Another thread for tribally bigoted hatefilled fellows to masturbate away their destiny on tribal hate and gbasgbos 😀
KingofallIgbos oya food dun don oo 😀😀.

Goodvibes007:

I will prefer to call the skirt wearing gay man a flat head.

sotall:


There were no traditional rulers in Yoruba land over 100 years ago with the Oba title.

The only traditional ruler in Nigeria with the Oba title over hundreds of years ago is the Oba of Benin.

Reason that and understand what that means.

CoronaVirusPro:


Fvck you Duroc!

Tell that loser you call Dad to get a noose!