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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:02pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
So, is it my fault that the manager keeps playing Rashford and McTom? Btw, we are talking about coordinated / effective pressing. The midfield and defence should move up a bit when the forward players are pressing. Is it Rashford that told our DMs and defenders to sit when Bruno, Anthony and Erasmus are pressing?
The problem is that there is a lot of problems at Man United grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2023
Where did Pep see this Doku boy? Ah God!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
So, is it my fault that the manager keeps playing Rashford and McTom? Btw, we are talking about coordinated / effective pressing. The midfield and defence should move up a bit when the forward players are pressing. Is it Rashford that told our DMs and defenders to sit when Bruno, Anthony and Erasmus are pressing?
Which Bruno Antony and Erasmus is pressing? How many times do you see them running at the same time to mark different players?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:04pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
The problem is that there is a lot of problems at Man United grin
Yes, but coaching is a major issue. The team is poorly coached.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:06pm On Dec 03, 2023
eph12:
Which Bruno Antony and Erasmus is pressing? How many times do you see them running at the same time to mark different players?
I have seen at least two of our forwards pressing at the same time, but the others are far away hiding behind the opposition players. Is it not strange?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:08pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Mount is a better player vs McTom in everything including pressing. But because McTom saved ETH’s job a few weeks ago, we must continue playing him.
I'm struggling to understand why ETH continues to start mctom. He offers nothing aside turning up in the box to score. Why don't he start him as a false 9 if he must play him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:09pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
I have seen at least two of our forwards pressing at the same time, but the others are far away hiding behind the opposition players. Is it not strange?
If I'm in that team I won't even try to press anybody. If we're not all doing it, I can't be doing slave work
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ballzproblem2: 6:13pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Omo, e go pain me if Chelsea should beat us on Wed. God abeg o!
lovely
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:13pm On Dec 03, 2023
eph12:
I'm struggling to understand why ETH continues to start mctom. He offers nothing aside turning up in the box to score. Why don't he start him as a false 9 if he must play him
I honestly don’t know. I think it’s cluelessness which results to sticking to whatever works. I knew ETH was going to have him as a starter after the goals he scored a few weeks ago. It’s crazily absurd. Yesterday, we were too exposed because McTom was in the middle with Mainoo (a youth player) and Bruno was upfront helping to make things happen.

McTom offers nothing!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 6:20pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Where did Pep see this Doku boy? Ah God!
And he costs around half of what we paid for pocolee
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:24pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Yes, but coaching is a major issue. The team is poorly coached.
Coaching is an issue, but it's not a major issue. We have a lot of players who either don't want to play for United, or don't want to play for the coach.

As a manager, if players no send you, there's no way your tactics will show. It doesn't matter how good or bad you are.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:24pm On Dec 03, 2023
AdisaOwala:
And he costs around half of what we paid for pocolee
As in! It’s unbelievable! Son of man is just tired!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:25pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
Coaching is an issue, but it's not a major issue. We have a lot of players who either don't want to play for United, or don't want to play for the coach.

As a manager, if players no send you, there's no way your tactics will show. It doesn't matter how good or bad you are.
Oh really? So, what about the players he signed? They don’t want to play for him and United?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:29pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
Coaching is an issue, but it's not a major issue. We have a lot of players who either don't want to play for United, or don't want to play for the coach.

As a manager, if players no send you, there's no way your tactics will show. It doesn't matter how good or bad you are.
If ETH used this his first two seasons to send them away from the club, we will know we have achieved something. But most of them are still comfortable here. Send those fuckers to the reserve and play those you feel you can work with. It's a good message to the club and the management that you can never work with these ones and you lack players. I remember one time Pep didn't have the complete number of players on the bench. But the message was clear from him. And right now he has them plenty.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:30pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
I honestly don’t know. I think it’s cluelessness which results to sticking to whatever works. I knew ETH was going to have him as a starter after the goals he scored a few weeks ago. It’s crazily absurd. Yesterday, we were too exposed because McTom was in the middle with Mainoo (a youth player) and Bruno was upfront helping to make things happen.

McTom offers nothing!
Please is Mount injured? He hasn't played for months and I don't think he has been on the bench
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:33pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Oh really? So, what about the players he signed? They don’t want to play for him and United?
They're either injured, or have started twice in like 4 days. If you don't want all your players to get injured, you have to give them some rest.

Sort player issues first before trying to solve coaching issue. When you solve player issue, coaching issue will become very glaring.

For the last decade, United have been "solving'" the coaching issue. It's clear now that solving the coaching issue is just a temporary solution.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:36pm On Dec 03, 2023
eph12:
If ETH used this his first two seasons to send them away from the club, we will know we have achieved something. But most of them are still comfortable here. Send those fuckers to the reserve and play those you feel you can work with. It's a good message to the club and the management that you can never work with these ones and you lack players. I remember one time Pep didn't have the complete number of players on the bench. But the message was clear from him. And right now he has them plenty.
Man Utd is not Man City.

If ETH tried to play his way in his first season and we don't get results quickly, there's no doubt he will be sacked 4 months into the job.

And I'm sure you'll be among the people that will be carrying placards to sack him during that period.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ballzproblem2: 6:39pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
As in! It’s unbelievable! Son of man is just tired!
you think pep has time to find players? when they tell you hire scouts you say no
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:42pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
Man Utd is not Man City.

If ETH tried to play his way in his first season and we don't get results quickly, there's no doubt he will be sacked 4 months into the job.

And I'm sure you'll be among the people that will be carrying placards to sack him during that period.
First of all remove that I'm sure there. You're not sure of anything.

I have been very consistent with my views. I have never expected ETH to build a winning team in just one year. In fact I think he will need two full seasons at least and a third season at most.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:46pm On Dec 03, 2023
eph12:
First of all remove that I'm sure there. You're not sure of anything.

I have been very consistent with my views. I have never expected ETH to build a winning team in just one year. In fact I think he will need two full seasons at least and a third season at most.
But this is his second season and you're not among those cutting him some slack.

There's enough blames to go round but it's not always about the coach. These players have questions to answer too. Sancho. Rashford. Martial. Etc. Players with plenty ego and zero performances. Dem boku for that team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 6:47pm On Dec 03, 2023
TrebleChamp:
Was Ronaldo is primary 1 when Ten Hag was benching him and bringing him on in the 89th minute? So Martial and co are suddenly too big for the disciplinarian to control. He will be very foolish not to punish Martial for that distasteful behaviour..
grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 6:49pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Omo, e go pain me if Chelsea should beat us on Wed. God abeg o!
Na wetin dey run through my mind be this, no be all this rogbodiyan wey we dey do for here. Make those shekpites no use us collect Glory God abeg
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:50pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
But this is his second season and you're not among those cutting him some slack.

There's enough blames to go round but it's not always about the coach. These players have questions to answer too. Sancho. Rashford. Martial. Etc. Players with plenty ego and zero performances. Dem boku for that team.
What he didn't do in two years, is it the 3rd year he wants to pursue some of those players away and introduce his own brand of football?

Someone that will get first class, na from the first or second year you go don know.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:52pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
But this is his second season and you're not among those cutting him some slack.

There's enough blames to go round but it's not always about the coach. These players have questions to answer too. Sancho. Rashford. Martial. Etc. Players with plenty ego and zero performances. Dem boku for that team.
It's the job of the manager to ask the questions. It is his neck on the line if he can't ask those questions and resolve whatever he needs to resolve
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:07pm On Dec 03, 2023
eph12:
It's the job of the manager to ask the questions. It is his neck on the line if he can't ask those questions and resolve whatever he needs to resolve
My brother. I’m tired of discussing Man Utd problems. The problem is that there are a lot of problems at Man United.

Haaland don dey fvck up
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ray07(m): 7:15pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Omo, e go pain me if Chelsea should beat us on Wed. God abeg o!
The Best united can hope for is a draw. Manchester united no be football club again.

Na free salary and enjoyment training ground.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:19pm On Dec 03, 2023
They need to be investigating these footballers, seems they are also playing bets.

Because how can Bissouma make such terrible mistake in the midfield like that...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:22pm On Dec 03, 2023
How long did it take before these new coaches can hold up their own to Pep..🤔

But Erik 7 Hag needs 5 years to build his team...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:27pm On Dec 03, 2023
Jokerman:
How long did it take before these new coaches can hold up their own to Pep..🤔

But Erik 7 Hag needs 5 years to build his team...
How many coaches not enjoying new manager bounce are trashing Pep?

Even your Erik sef, he defeated Man City at OT last season. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:37pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
My brother. I’m tired of discussing Man Utd problems. The problem is that there are a lot of problems at Man United.

Haaland don dey fvck up
I'm not even focusing on the match. Just looking at the tv when there's a goal or incident.

We can't get tired of discussing Manchester united. ETH needs to understand that these players will let him down. He allowed himself to be deceived, meanwhile this has always been their MO. His first mistake was thinking he can change them. His second mistake was buying rubbish players. He can salvage the situation by relegating all these players to the reserve or whatever. But his actions already shows he has favorites. Others have to work twice hard to get a chance
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 7:38pm On Dec 03, 2023
nitrogen:
Where did Pep see this Doku boy? Ah God!
Pep gave credit to the DOF and recruitment team at man city for all the signings.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 7:47pm On Dec 03, 2023
Leyqute:
They're either injured, or have started twice in like 4 days. If you don't want all your players to get injured, you have to give them some rest.

Sort player issues first before trying to solve coaching issue. When you solve player issue, coaching issue will become very glaring.

For the last decade, United have been "solving'" the coaching issue. It's clear now that solving the coaching issue is just a temporary solution.
How many are injured or played twice in the last 4 days? Don’t even go there. We played the Newcastle game without any of his signings (except Onana). Tell me why we are not using these guys consistently. Or how do we reconcile signing almost a football team and none is fit or available to play. No be juju be that!
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