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Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 1:53pm On Dec 02, 2023

TenQ:
I doff my hat for you na!
Wiser than his prophet!

As you wise pass Jesus Emmanuel!

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by sonmvayina(m): 2:01pm On Dec 02, 2023

TenQ:
I doff my hat for you na!
Wiser than his prophet!

What do you have to say about the issue that the OP raised...

Looks like you don't even know anything after all....

Say something intelligent..if not just keep quiet and learn...

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 2:11pm On Dec 02, 2023

sonmvayina:
What do you have to say about the issue that the OP raised...

Looks like you don't even know anything after all....

Say something intelligent..if not just keep quiet and learn...

I have responded to him, read if you care!

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 2:12pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
As you wise pass Jesus Emmanuel!

I have never claimed anything my Lord and God did not claim as you who throw both Allah and Mohammed under the bus to defend Islam

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 2:13pm On Dec 02, 2023

TenQ:
I have never claimed anything my Lord and God did not claim as you who throw both Allah and Mohammed under the bus to defend Islam

So where exactly did I specifically claim that?

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 5:25pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
So where exactly did I specifically claim that?

Sahih al-Bukhari 7362
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said (to the Muslims). "Do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you.' "

Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).

Does your prophet claim to believe in our scripture?

Let me remind you of what you said:

AntiChristian:
I don't wish to worship the God who makes covenant with only one tribe/race! That's discrimination!

The God I worship is not the God of Israel alone but the God of all that exists!

And you didn't even touch the post.
Did your God say those things or He didn't?

Always abusive and deflecting!

Here is an instance from the book your prophet claim he believes in
Deu 29:1:
"These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb."

Deu 27:9-10:
"And Moses and the priests the Levites spoke to all Israel, saying, Take heed, and listen, O Israel; this day you are become the people of the LORD your God. You shall therefore obey the voice of the LORD your God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command you this day."

Of course your prophet did not read the Torah before claiming he believed in it BUT, you are Learned and better educated than your prophet to reject this.

All you need to do is to show me another nation in the world that God made a covenant with!

I have shown you how you disagreed with your esteemed prophet because you go school

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 7:04pm On Dec 02, 2023

TenQ:
Sahih al-Bukhari 7362
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said (to the Muslims). "Do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you.' "

Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).

Does your prophet claim to believe in our scripture?

Let me remind you of what you said:

Here is an instance from the book your prophet claim he believes in
Deu 29:1:
"These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb."

Deu 27:9-10:
"And Moses and the priests the Levites spoke to all Israel, saying, Take heed, and listen, O Israel; this day you are become the people of the LORD your God. You shall therefore obey the voice of the LORD your God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command you this day."

Of course your prophet did not read the Torah before claiming he believed in it BUT, you are Learned and better educated than your prophet to reject this.

All you need to do is to show me another nation in the world that God made a covenant with!

I have shown you how you disagreed with your esteemed prophet because you go school

Where is it stated that Allah had covenant with Israel alone or only Israel?

Jargons too much!

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Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 9:02pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
Where is it stated that Allah had covenant with Israel alone or only Israel?

Jargons too much!

Allah never made covenant with anyone and I never stated that.

Unfortunately, you don't read as I gave you Deu 29:1:

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob YHWH made a covenant with the Nation of Israel. It is in the same Book your prophet claimed he believed in.

Do you know any other nation that God made a covenant with?

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 10:59pm On Dec 02, 2023

TenQ:
Allah never made covenant with anyone and I never stated that.

Unfortunately, you don't read as I gave you Deu 29:1:

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob YHWH made a covenant with the Nation of Israel. It is in the same Book your prophet claimed he believed in.

Do you know any other nation that God made a covenant with?

Ọgbẹni! My Prophet didn't believe in Deuteronomy or other bogus books of the Bible.

Na Torah we believe in and it is lost!

I no dey argue again!

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 11:26pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
Ọgbẹni! My Prophet didn't believe in Deuteronomy or other bogus books of the Bible.

Na Torah we believe in and it is lost!

I no dey argue again!

And the ignorant uneducated prophet didn't know that the Torah is Genesis to Deuteronomy!

And it take you to correct the error of your prophet. Too bad! (You studied in a university didn't you?)

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by Expanse2020(m): 8:47am On Dec 03, 2023

AntiChristian:
Did i tell lies?

All these curses are too much oo
Are you sure is in the bible🤷.

I heard that song of Solomon also promote sexual immoralities too
Hmm

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 8:57am On Dec 03, 2023

Expanse2020:
All these curses are too much oo
Are you sure is in the bible🤷.

I heard that song of Solomon also promote sexual immoralities too
Hmm

https://www.nairaland.com/6893609/erotic-verses-bible

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Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 7:46pm On Dec 03, 2023

AntiChristian:
Ọgbẹni! My Prophet didn't believe in Deuteronomy or other bogus books of the Bible.

Na Torah we believe in and it is lost!

I no dey argue again!

All I can do is to Laugh at your deliberate self delusion. You want to pretend that you don't know what the Jews called Torah!?

I plead with you not to to enter Hell before you realiztthat you've been conned by satan!

The Truth indeed sets Free when Adopted!

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 6:32am On Dec 04, 2023

TenQ:
All I can do is to Laugh at your deliberate self delusion. You want to pretend that you don't know what the Jews called Torah!?

I plead with you not to to enter Hell before you realiztthat you've been conned by satan!

The Truth indeed sets Free when Adopted!

The Torah the Jews believe has been corrupted and similarly the New testament; we know the early church fathers did a lot of work in selecting those books to be included and those to be excluded! And we know Rome sure did play a huge part too!

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 6:48am On Dec 04, 2023

AntiChristian:
The Torah the Jews believe has been corrupted and similarly the New testament; we know the early church fathers did a lot of work in selecting those books to be included and those to be excluded! And we know Rome sure did play a huge part too!

Both Allah and your prophet didn't know this important information you now have about the corruption of the Torah. Aren't you so brilliant?
If the Torah is corrupted
1. When in terms of date was it corrupted?
2. Who corrupted it?
3. Why was it corrupted?
4. What was corrupted in it?
And what does the original Torah look like?
5. How as it corrupted?

Your eminence in wisdom should be able to give us solid evidence of the answers to these questions as you seem to know better than both Allah and your prophet Mohammed

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:42am On Dec 04, 2023

There is a lot to know about what you quoted.

First of all the God of Abraham was talking to the people He singlehandedly rescued from slavery and led them to the land He promised their ancestors (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) so He has every right to say what you quoted and that was exactly what happened to the Israelites, today the people living there aren't real Israelites but dwellers after the original inhabitants has been scattered.

What God said there has nothing to do with any religion today because God never fought physical to deliver people from slavery the same way He did for Israelites that's why Jesus never mentioned something of that nature to his disciples but confirmed it will happen to Jews occupying Judah because they were about to reject him whom God sent to them in the manner of Moses and as God told their ancestors if they should reject Jesus Christ they will loose their inheritance! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 7:54am On Dec 04, 2023

TenQ:
Both Allah and your prophet didn't know this important information you now have about the corruption of the Torah. Aren't you so brilliant?
If the Torah is corrupted
1. When in terms of date was it corrupted?
2. Who corrupted it?
3. Why was it corrupted?
4. What was corrupted in it?
And what does the original Torah look like?
5. How as it corrupted?

Your eminence in wisdom should be able to give us solid evidence of the answers to these questions as you seem to know better than both Allah and your prophet Mohammed

This has been concluded with you before!
And as usual you'll always come back!

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 1:12pm On Dec 04, 2023

AntiChristian:
This has been concluded with you before!
And as usual you'll always come back!

And you brilliantly answered the questions to point that the answers does not exist anywhere!
SMH!!

Aren't you so brilliant?
If the Torah is corrupted
1. When in terms of date was it corrupted?
2. Who corrupted it?
3. Why was it corrupted?
4. What was corrupted in it?
And what does the original Torah look like?
5. How as it corrupted?

Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by AntiChristian(op): 4:01pm On Dec 04, 2023

TenQ:
And you brilliantly answered the questions to point that the answers does not exist anywhere!
SMH!!

Aren't you so brilliant?
If the Torah is corrupted
1. When in terms of date was it corrupted?
2. Who corrupted it?
3. Why was it corrupted?
4. What was corrupted in it?
And what does the original Torah look like?
5. How as it corrupted?

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