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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:12pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
ANC pretty much messed up - now you use 20 dollars commute from Soweto to Joburg - to earn 15 dollars a day.

Between 1994 and 2004, the ANC funded nearly 2 million new homes for black South Africans, but the housing was developed within the existing townships, reinforcing the segregated geographies established under apartheid. People in these settlements do not legally own the land they live on, have little access to public services and utilities, and often endure high costs and travel times to commute to the city for jobs that pay less than $15 a day.
you probably did not read to comprehend, hence you missed the point... Did you see the distance allowed on that 20 dollars card?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:13pm On Dec 05, 2023
Shma2022:
I know there are pretty much top level software engineer consultants in some of your huge tech company, who are of Indian decent.
again, abstract argument
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:14pm On Dec 05, 2023
Just40:
Baring the social differences, I'll bet to say SA and England are probably at the same level of development.
England is way ahead
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:15pm On Dec 05, 2023
Shma2022:
Wrong!
good luck
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:16pm On Dec 05, 2023
AfriqueDuZuid:
England is way ahead
the social aspect of development puts England ahead
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 12:20pm On Dec 05, 2023
How many white people live in Soweto. Zero.

It not self-sustaining. It's a bedroom city of Joburg. Unfortunately it's 30kms away. The same is repeated in all other black neigherbhood. Kept far away from economic centers where jobs and opportunities exist.

You can keep burying your head like ANC but one thing is sure - SOUTH AFRICA future prognosis is not bright.

You need to bite the bullet. Deal with vestiges of apertheid.


AfriqueDuZuid:
Soweto is a township, here's a tour from your own kenyan

Biggest hospital in africa, biggest stadium in Africa, over 30 malls, paved roads, piped water, sewage and water drainage

Soweto waste drainage is not open like one in nairobi neighborhoods

Soweto has industries


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8UYpGNt_50?si=t2YFpNiPX0GKWADT
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 12:22pm On Dec 05, 2023
Concentrate on Smelly Ghana.
We have South African here.

That 20 dollars is my own calculation that I put there - based on 9 dollars the Soweto dude claim is train ticket from to Joburg (10 dollars time 2).

15 dollars per day is what he will get paid to work in Joburg. So he rather not go to work and idle around. 40% unemployment.

First build a modern sewage - and stop emitting your foul mouthed nonsense here until we mention Ghana

Just40:
you probably did not read to comprehend, hence you missed the point... Did you see the distance allowed on that 20 dollars card?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:22pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
ANC pretty much messed up - now you use 20 dollars commute from Soweto to Joburg - to earn 15 dollars a day.

Between 1994 and 2004, the ANC funded nearly 2 million new homes for black South Africans, but the housing was developed within the existing townships, reinforcing the segregated geographies established under apartheid. People in these settlements do not legally own the land they live on, have little access to public services and utilities, and often endure high costs and travel times to commute to the city for jobs that pay less than $15 a day.
People in townships own the land they live in, they have title deeds grin grin grin

Public services and utilities are available even in rural areas

Dude from Durban to Johannesburg is $9 it's 600km away

Again from soweto to joburg cbd is $0.3 by train, $0.7 by taxi, lol what you on about grin grin grin grin, are you high on something


How can something 10km or less be $15, you can't be that stupid grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 12:24pm On Dec 05, 2023
Okay maybe I got your maths wrong. I find your maths implausible.
Less than a dollar from Soweto to Joburg - 30kms away.
What are you using - free fuel?
AfriqueDuZuid:
People in townships own the land they live in, they have title deeds grin grin grin

Public services and utilities are available even in rural areas

Dude from Durban to Johannesburg is $9 it's 600km away

Again from soweto to joburg cbd is $0.3 by train, $0.7 by taxi, lol what you on about grin grin grin grin, are you high on something


How can something 10km or less be $15, you can't be that stupid grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:28pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Concentrate on Smelly Ghana.
We have South African here.

That 20 dollars is my own calculation that I put there - based on 9 dollars the Soweto dude claim is train ticket from to Joburg (10 dollars time 2).

15 dollars per day is what he will get paid to work in Joburg. So he rather not go to work and idle around. 40% unemployment.

First build a modern sewage - and stop emitting your foul mouthed nonsense here until we mention Ghana
R5 from soweto to Johannesburg

That's $0.27 return is $0.54 this means one will spend $1 1 the whole month grin

Heres a copy I could on twitter

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:29pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Okay maybe I got your maths wrong. I find your maths implausible.
Less than a dollar from Soweto to Joburg - 30kms away.
What are you using - free fuel?
LOL see $0.27 using metro rail

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:30pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Concentrate on Smelly Ghana.
We have South African here.

That 20 dollars is my own calculation that I put there - based on 9 dollars the Soweto dude claim is train ticket from to Joburg (10 dollars time 2).

15 dollars per day is what he will get paid to work in Joburg. So he rather not go to work and idle around. 40% unemployment.

First build a modern sewage - and stop emitting your foul mouthed nonsense here until we mention Ghana
people come to Kenya and hold their nose when they get out of the airport. The place must really smell bad so you think it's normally the same everywhere.


again, you didn't answer the question.

Did you see the distance allowed on the 9 dollars? Why will you make your own calculating in the face of fact.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 12:32pm On Dec 05, 2023
Give me the total fare you'll pay from your house to Naledi to Joburg to your workplace.
Plus what you'll earn on average.
That 30Kms plus commute is definitely going to hurt you.
AfriqueDuZuid:
LOL see $0.27 using metro rail
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 12:32pm On Dec 05, 2023
Bla bla de bla. You're not a South African.
Just40:
people come to Kenya and hold their nose when they get out of the airport. The place must really smell bad so you think it's normally the same everywhere.


again, you didn't answer the question.

Did you see the distance allowed on the 9 dollars? Why will you make your own calculating in the face of fact.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:32pm On Dec 05, 2023
AfriqueDuZuid:
People in townships own the land they live in, they have title deeds grin grin grin

Public services and utilities are available even in rural areas

Dude from Durban to Johannesburg is $9 it's 600km away

Again from soweto to joburg cbd is $0.3 by train, $0.7 by taxi, lol what you on about grin grin grin grin, are you high on something


How can something 10km or less be $15, you can't be that stupid grin
😂🤣

Probably intoxicated by changaa
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:36pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
How many white people live in Soweto. Zero.

It not self-sustaining. It's a bedroom city of Joburg. Unfortunately it's 30kms away. The same is repeated in all other black neigherbhood. Kept far away from economic centers where jobs and opportunities exist.

You can keep burying your head like ANC but one thing is sure - SOUTH AFRICA future prognosis is not bright.

You need to bite the bullet. Deal with vestiges of apertheid.
Another tour of soweto wink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=970VP6m6ISA?si=L8J_OVPM7sAHVRgL

Soweto has several industrial sites, mining, lots of malls, thriving tourism sector, new car dealerships,... A person in soweto literally don't have to go to Johannesburg
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:39pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Bla bla de bla. You're not a South African.
did I claim I was?

Address your smelly Kenya
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:42pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Give me the total fare you'll pay from your house to Naledi to Joburg to your workplace.
Plus what you'll earn on average.
That 30Kms plus commute is definitely going to hurt you.
I don't stay in soweto

However that ticket was posted by someone from there, soweto is huge Naledi is in Soweto. SOWETO has over 50 neighborhoods from low middle class to upper middle class
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:46pm On Dec 05, 2023
Mkenya2019:
Concentrate on Smelly Ghana.
We have South African here.

That 20 dollars is my own calculation that I put there - based on 9 dollars the Soweto dude claim is train ticket from to Joburg (10 dollars time 2).

15 dollars per day is what he will get paid to work in Joburg. So he rather not go to work and idle around. 40% unemployment.

First build a modern sewage - and stop emitting your foul mouthed nonsense here until we mention Ghana
$20? grin grin

It's $23 to Capetown which is 1400km away from Johannesburg smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 12:54pm On Dec 05, 2023
AfriqueDuZuid:
Urbanization is urban dwelling, as urban dwelling is associated with development even compared with rural

The slum population is factored in to show level of development in the very urban areas wink
Wrong!

Urbanization is population shift from rural to urban/ population growth in urban areas. Not dwellers. Population concentration in specific areas ≠ dwelling.

That being said, Egypt's urbanization rate is 43%, and as I said, Ghana's urbanization rate is more than 50%. What is your argument on this? You can add Maldives, Mauritius, ... These are Nations with high Human development index in Africa! Both have lower Urbanization rates than Ghana.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 1:07pm On Dec 05, 2023
Just40:
Baring the social differences, I'll bet to say SA and England are probably at the same level of development.
Lol don't even dare.
Social differences or whatever, England is miles ahead.
SA is of course the most developed in Africa with competition from maybe Morocco but England is of course on another level all round.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:11pm On Dec 05, 2023
GeneralDae:
Lol don't even dare.
Social differences or whatever, England is miles ahead.
SA is of course the most developed in Africa with competition from maybe Morocco but England is of course on another level all round.
I'm going to ask you one question....
Is China more developed than UK or not?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 1:12pm On Dec 05, 2023
Just40:
the social aspect of development puts England ahead
You are just a confused hobbit. Even the person you're trying to embrace is not buying it. You need to know when to stop. It's not working! cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 1:14pm On Dec 05, 2023
Just40:
I'm going to ask you one question....
Is China more developed than UK or not?
Development in what aspect? Physical, social, cognitive, Economic, moral, infrastructure, or what?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:16pm On Dec 05, 2023
Shma2022:
You are just a confused hobbit. Even the person you're trying to embrace is not buying it. You need to know when to stop. It's not working! cool
orc....shut up and go and learn maths


This kind of conversation is beyond your understanding, finding someone's argument more sensible is not the same as embracing 🤣😂
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:17pm On Dec 05, 2023
Shma2022:
Development in what aspect? Physical, social, cognitive, Economic, moral, infrastructure, or what?
is infrastructure spiritual?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 1:20pm On Dec 05, 2023
Just40:
orc....shut up and go and learn maths


This kind of conversation is beyond your understanding, finding someone's argument more sensible is not the same as embracing 🤣😂
Maths is my area of specialty. I'm without any doubt a top 1% of people with good understanding of maths in your country. When addressing me, know that I'm not a random hobbit.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 1:23pm On Dec 05, 2023
Just40:
is infrastructure spiritual?
The question itself is dumb, I don't know if you intended to sound brutish smart with this. cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 1:35pm On Dec 05, 2023
Just40:
I'm going to ask you one question....
Is China more developed than UK or not?
UK is more developed than China. I haven't visited China but I have visited UK and gone around.
Yes UK has poverty and some problems but like Germany, standard of living is high on the average.
China is not yet termed a developed country overall but they are definitely getting there.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 1:43pm On Dec 05, 2023
Shma2022:
Thick skin is immune to something: insults, stupidity, blackmailing... Etc. Some intellects are not immune to dumb comments like the one you peddle around.

Thank because I can tolerate some gibberish from you, not everyperson can do that!

So try elevate your thinking horizon before I throw you inside the forgiveness bandwagon.
No wonder forgiveness show head for this thread again cheesy grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:57pm On Dec 05, 2023
GeneralDae:
UK is more developed than China. I haven't visited China but I have visited UK and gone around.
Yes UK has poverty and some problems but like Germany, standard of living is high on the average.
China is not yet termed a developed country overall but they are definitely getting there.
You see why I asked the question...I just wanted to know what you'll say.

China is more developed than the UK infrastructural wise.
Of course UK will have a higher standard of living because of what we have come to view standard of living due to their currency being at the apex while china has kept theirs lower in order to be the world's producer.

I've been to both...China (Xiamen, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Hong Kong) and also the UK
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 2:01pm On Dec 05, 2023
ProblemChild1:
No wonder forgiveness show head for this thread again cheesy grin grin
When did you create that account? how did it take me that long to notice that forgiveness is you?
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