Agidipie:

Will consider it and get back to you

Good price for the specs

profemebee:
It isn't just the UK revising immigration policies

The Prime Minister of one of the largest core Anglosphere countries, Australia has said migration policies will be reviewed in the interest of Australians etc.

This was just last night..

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/dec/09/anthony-albanese-announces-plan-to-reduce-immigration-levels-following-covid-influx

https://www.news.com.au/national/pm-albanese-warns-of-student-crackdown-ahead-of-migration-overhaul/news-story/876b3f8e57b78eb1071b71cd4533babd

Like i stated, Countries will do what they seem best in the interest of their citizens and that's fair/fine.... either you cry and cry about it Or you adapt and plan around it

Immigration has always been a low hanging fruit in many countries- one politicians first aim for moreso when there are economic challenges like in the current climate. Partly why many countries are moving right as politicians seek votes and blame immigrants... in reality it always comes around as immigrants are hardly ever the problem... cue Brexit. UK chased out the EU... did it fare better?. Nigeria chased out Ghanaians...did we fare better? No.

Finally, I find it odd when certain folks talk about Immigration in countries like Australia. At what point in Australia's history did Immigration become 'unsustainable'?

LionInZion:


Thank you! That's my point exactly. And like a friend of mine would put it it's more factual to say we're open to receiving war fleeing refugees who look like us. There's no point sugar coating it. It's unconscious bias, it's in everyone.

Without getting drawn into this, It's a slippery slope excusing everything on the basis of 'its human nature' or unconscious bias. Name it- racism, slavery, human rights, war, womens right e t.c can all be easily excused.

The issue with Afghanistan was that their suffering was partly due to wrongful interference by the UK and hence there ought to be a moral burden to right some wrongs.

LionInZion:


I quite agree with you that every responsible govt would prioritise its citizens interest over others.

That said, at bolded - this idea of 'keep shot or fvck off' that I've seen expressed here over and over isnt the best. There are several points I disagree with both for and against the new policy but it's not in my place to ask people to stop complaining and adapt.

If everyone holds that view, all asylum seekers would have been shipped off to Rwanda without anyone challenging the policy in court; several migrants would have been deported at POE for minute reasons without any immigration lawyer fighting for them.

I work in this industry and I have first hand experience of how this policy has rattled up so many people especially British citizens with foreign spouses. So it'll be unfair to ask people not to "rant" about it if they feel aggrieved. We react to issues differently and if your own way is to adapt and move on, someone else's might be to 'cry' about it, and each is within their right. And if you think the complaints here is too much, just pay a visit to Reddit.🙂

It's that oppressive mindset from Nigeria you see playing out here, because I can't control a situation I should lay low and just accept any bullshit that comes my way. It's funny how people on a visa in this country support policies that may come back to bite them in the long run. This is how some unwise immigrants in the US were supporting Trump until his policies started biting them, especially in bringing their families over into the US. No immigrant is a beggar in this country, the immigration system is like an hotel business where people pay per night to stay. Let everyone check their payslips at the end of the month and see how much they pay in taxes and NI for the system to continue to run. You are virtually paying for every day you live here and let no one come and tell us that immigrants contribute little or nothing else the PM will not be increasing visa fees and ihs fees to fund an increase in wages. The UK is in heavy debt and has already borrowed over 90% in comparison to its GDP. No one is doing anyone a favour here (which is what some folks think here), we are all in business both us and the people making the policies.

Goke7:


It's that oppressive mindset from Nigeria you see playing out here, because I can't control a situation I should lay low and just accept any bullshit that comes my way. It's funny how people on a visa in this country support policies that may come back to bite them in the long run. This is how some unwise immigrants in the US were supporting Trump until his policies started biting them, especially in bringing their families over into the US. No immigrant is a beggar in this country, the immigration system is like an hotel business where people pay per night to stay. Let everyone check their payslips at the end of the month and see how much they pay in taxes and NI for the system to continue to run. You are virtually paying for every day you live here and let no one come and tell us that immigrants contribute little or nothing else the PM will not be increasing visa fees and ihs fees to fund an increase in wages. The UK is in heavy debt and has already borrowed over 90% in comparison to its GDP. No one is doing anyone a favour here (which is what some folks think here), we are all in business both us and the people making the policies.

Lol. My fear is if we continue to hold such views, someone like Suella will come to power one day and put a cap on the number of children immigrants can have; the number of sexual intercourses in a year and maybe even ban interracial marriages lol, and we'll then see the reality of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four playing out in real life haha and we'd still have people saying it's the law we should accept it or keep shut.

jedisco:


Without getting drawn into this, It's a slippery slope excusing everything on the basis of 'its human nature' or unconscious bias. Name it- racism, slavery, human rights, war, womens right e t.c can all be easily excused.

The issue with Afghanistan was that their suffering was partly due to wrongful interference by the UK and hence there ought to be a moral burden to right some wrongs.

Hmmn, that's quite another good valid angle to the topic.

profemebee:
in life... there are situations we can't control.. scenarios we can't control..

That's life...

I agree with you bro. At the same time, I also have learnt that many situations that seem out of control might still be salvaged if we have the willpower to address them.

LionInZion:


Lol. My fear is if we continue to hold such views, someone like Suella will come to power one day and put a cap on the number of children immigrants can have; the number of sexual intercourses in a year and maybe even ban interracial marriages lol, and we'll then see the reality of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four playing out in real life haha and we'd still have people saying it's the law we should accept it or keep shut.

It’s already happening, the government wants to even go ahead to bypass the supreme courts and international laws all in the name of reducing net migration. When there are even laws in this land that protects families especially children which is what some folks are going to use to challenge some of the recent policies. If people keep shut many people will just suffer for nothing all in the guise of we can’t control the situation.

Please who can recommend a good CV website or one that can be used to look like it was made in overleaf?

cvmkr.com don wan dey jonze

Goke7:


It's that oppressive mindset from Nigeria you see playing out here, because I can't control a situation I should lay low and just accept any bullshit that comes my way. It's funny how people on a visa in this country support policies that may come back to bite them in the long run. This is how some unwise immigrants in the US were supporting Trump until his policies started biting them, especially in bringing their families over into the US. No immigrant is a beggar in this country, the immigration system is like an hotel business where people pay per night to stay. Let everyone check their payslips at the end of the month and see how much they pay in taxes and NI for the system to continue to run. You are virtually paying for every day you live here and let no one come and tell us that immigrants contribute little or nothing else the PM will not be increasing visa fees and ihs fees to fund an increase in wages. The UK is in heavy debt and has already borrowed over 90% in comparison to its GDP. No one is doing anyone a favour here (which is what some folks think here), we are all in business both us and the people making the policies.

This is a lazy way to address an argument. I’ve noticed that you always narrow every counter argument to us having an oppressed mindset. I’m curious to know what you have done outside of this forum to address this new policy or previous immigration policies. After all I started a petition which most of the people who complain here everyday refused to sign.

kwakudtraveller:

This is a lazy way to address an argument. I’ve noticed that you always narrow every counter argument to us having an oppressed mindset. I’m curious to know what you have done outside of this forum to address this new policy or previous immigration policies. After all I started a petition which most of the people who complain here everyday refused to sign.

Oh really? I take that as a compliment, I accept my arguments are very lazy, thank you cos I must always agree with you. How politically active do you think I am in this country or I should reel out all the groups I am involved in making representations to the govt to please you and tell you how many cases I have been involved cos that’s the only way I can impress you. Chai

Congratulationss 🎉

Overthinker:
Encouraging someone out there to keep applying for these jobs because that's what this thread did for me. If I wasn't following this thread I would think once I secure a good warehouse job, I should keep it, but I kept applying, different jobs different role and now I have my offer letter for an entry role with a bank. It's not a big salary but promise of growth is enough for me to start from there. Warehouse is an honest job and a good one, but nothing stops us from aiming higher. All the arguments or the fights, all the differing opinions, believe me it goes a long way in helping the new immigrants. So let's keep aiming higher.

Who can help with International driving licence here pls …
Kindly Dm

It's between 20k/30k now,if Jan 15th is not too late by you, I can be of assistance, the License will be in England at that time. You can connect on how it will get to you.

Efftyy:
Who can help with International driving licence here pls …
Kindly Dm

abuhusna1:

i use 2 of oil filled heater one for each bedroom, very energy efficient and fast heat so you can off it when the room is warm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Schallen-Portable-Adjustable-Temperature-Thermostat/dp/B00D8WTRQU

SPDAZZY:






Thanks very much!

i use 2 of oil filled heater one for each bedroom, very energy efficient and fast heat so you can off it when the room is warm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Schallen-Portable-Adjustable-Temperature-Thermostat/dp/B00D8WTRQU

Efftyy:
Who can help with International driving licence here pls …
Kindly Dm

u do not need it for the UK. Your standard driving licence is fine and it’s 15k for 5 years.
Also since it is a renewal/reissue you can apply for it online. Inorder to avoid going to capture, select no to the biometrics question when filling the form. I guess it’s how to get it to you here in the UK I can not help with

Agidipie:
Hi, I need a candid advise. I am an international student and would be starting my internship in January 2024, I also would be starting a AWS course this January. I want to buy a laptop, I budgeted £450 pounds for a solid brand new laptop (hp). Been searching online tho, but someone advised I go for a refurbished MacBook on back market or other sites, that it would be better because I would find something great with my budget. What do you guys think And you can drop any site one can find great quality refurbished laptops in uk

Go on eBay, search for your laptop of choice and spec, under filter, choose open never used you should see good deals there.

I didn't have a good experience with refurb laptop, so I don't recommend it, even with excellent refurb, one key wasn't working, I bought it for my wife, she didn't see a reason to report to me since there's an alternate key that serve the same purpose (shift key).

But with open never used, I got a laptop worth £750 at £449, ASUS TUF Gaming F15, Core i5 11th gen, 512GB SSD, 8gb RAM , 4gb Nvidia Geforce RTX 2050, 2023 model. I just recently added 16GB RAM.

Just be careful, because refurb can also be listed as "open never used", check the rating of the seller, and reviews, check item description, and try and see the reason why the person is selling, also if it has any defect.

Lefty500:



Go on eBay, search for your laptop of choice and spec, under filter, choose open never used you should see good deals there.

I didn't have a good experience with refurb laptop, so I don't recommend it, even with excellent refurb, one key wasn't working, I bought it for my wife, she didn't see a reason to report to me since there's an alternate key that serve the same purpose (shift key).

But with open never used, I got a laptop worth £750 at £449, ASUS TUF Gaming F15, Core i5 11th gen, 512GB SSD, 8gb RAM , 4gb Nvidia Geforce RTX 2050, 2023 model. I just recently added 16GB RAM.

Just be careful, because refurb can also be listed as "open never used", check the rating of the seller, and reviews, check item description, and try and see the reason why the person is selling, also if it has any defect.

Thanks

abuhusna1:

i use 2 of oil filled heater one for each bedroom, very energy efficient and fast heat so you can off it when the room is warm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Schallen-Portable-Adjustable-Temperature-Thermostat/dp/B00D8WTRQU

What kind of oil pls

[b][/b]

Goke7:


It's that oppressive mindset from Nigeria you see playing out here, because I can't control a situation I should lay low and just accept any bullshit that comes my way. It's funny how people on a visa in this country support policies that may come back to bite them in the long run. This is how some unwise immigrants in the US were supporting Trump until his policies started biting them, especially in bringing their families over into the US. No immigrant is a beggar in this country, the immigration system is like an hotel business where people pay per night to stay. Let [b][/b]everyone check their payslips at the end of the month and see how much they pay in taxes and NI for the system to continue to run. You are virtually paying for every day you live here and let no one come and tell us that immigrants contribute little or nothing else the PM will not be increasing visa fees and ihs fees to fund an increase in wages. The UK is in heavy debt and has already borrowed over 90% in comparison to its GDP. No one is doing anyone a favour here (which is what some folks think here), we are all in business both us and the people making the policies.

How can you claim no one is doing anyone a favour when the immigration numbers demonstrates people are coming in droves? If it was a 50/50 business deal like you say, shouldn’t direction be in both ways or fairly stable. I don’t just mean from Naija (India, China, Pakistan etc. are on the list). The truth is people will move from areas of economic hardship to areas with more opportunities…just like Osmosis. When you come and you start paying tax in the new system, were you not paying tax in the previous location? What did you get in return? If it’s not a fair deal, people would stop coming and enjoy their extra “money”.

That said, I think immigration should be sustainable, otherwise we overload the system and we get the same “unworkable” system some of us were running away from. When last have you visited a GP or house-hunted? There’s no doubt in my mind this “tiny-Island” is under a lot of pressure and it needs to be released somehow. I don’t like the uncertainty of the immigration laws (they should be fairly stable so people can plan and not be stranded), but how many countries are viable alternatives? Maybe Canada, Australia, USA…be things May even be changing in these countries as well. In terms of voting or making a change, not sure the immigrant vote/lobby is significant enough to move the needle.

Las las, everyone go Dey alright.

How I wish we could get our acts right as a country, doesn’t even have to be el dorado, just back to 2015 economic outlook and the influx from Nigerians won’t be as bad. God punish APC for forcing middle class Nigerians to flee their country!

bless youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!

triplo3:



How can you claim no one is doing anyone a favour when the immigration numbers demonstrates people are coming in droves? If it was a 50/50 business deal like you say, shouldn’t direction be in both ways or fairly stable. I don’t just mean from Naija (India, China, Pakistan etc. are on the list). The truth is people will move from areas of economic hardship to areas with more opportunities…just like Osmosis. When you come and you start paying tax in the new system, were you not paying tax in the previous location? What did you get in return? If it’s not a fair deal, people would stop coming and enjoy their extra “money”.

That said, I think immigration should be sustainable, otherwise we overload the system and we get the same “unworkable” system some of us were running away from. When last have you visited a GP or house-hunted? There’s no doubt in my mind this “tiny-Island” is under a lot of pressure and it needs to be released somehow. I don’t like the uncertainty of the immigration laws (they should be fairly stable so people can plan and not be stranded), but how many countries are viable alternatives? [/b]Maybe Canada, Australia, USA…be things May even be changing in these countries as well. In terms of voting or making a change, not sure the immigrant vote/lobby is significant enough to move the needle.

Las las, everyone go Dey alright.

How I wish we could get our acts right as a country, doesn’t even have to be el dorado, just back to 2015 economic outlook and the influx from Nigerians won’t be as bad. [b]God punish APC for forcing middle class Nigerians to flee their country!

triplo3:
[b][/b]


How can you claim no one is doing anyone a favour when the immigration numbers demonstrates people are coming in droves?

To add to this, the Home sec in his statement this week said that they estimate that around 75% of dependants do not work, but still make use of public services. That is part of the reason why they felt justified to restrict dependants, majority of whom they believe take more than they contribute, in other words the UK is doing them a favour.

I'm not saying that they are 100% right, but pointing out how the other side thinks and views things.

Zahra29:


To add to this, the Home sec in his statement this week said that they estimate that around 75% of dependants do not work, but still make use of public services. That is part of the reason why they felt justified to restrict dependants, majority of whom they believe take more than they contribute, in other words the UK is doing them a favour.

I'm not saying that they are 100% right, but pointing out how the other side thinks and views things.

This is indisputable. I know how much Caesarean Section costs in private hospitals in Nigeria or if you travel to USA or Canada to give birth. It’s very very expensive. I’m sure we all know people who arrived “yesterday” and given birth “today”. It will easily swallow the Ihs fees. Not to mention free schooling for children. There is no free lunch, the money is coming from somewhere.

That's the default response... when there is no data or stats to back it up

emotional outburst and using oppressed mindset as the response

i expected this yesterday..

Almost 48hours, and no data ..... i even went ahead to provide different forms of data but the counter argument was to leverage on Hear say, Daddy freeze, vibes and emotions as reference.

The data showed a major increase in visas granted across board etc..

If the data from UK gov supported the claims that UK isn't immigration-friendly, the same people referencing beer parlor gists would have embraced it..

One can keep migrating to new countries and still complain and complain because there is no perfect setting anywhere

A lot of the countries used in the immigration laws comparison are larger in size than the entire UK.. and so can never have same opportunities..

USA is 40x larger than the UK..

Over 10 states in the States are larger than the UK..

Australia is over 30x larger than the UK..

Ticha gave us a detailed account of how Australia is...

Some babes did videos about how to get an appointment at the hospital took them over 3months in Canada

If you want to believe beer parlor gists and vibes, then thats on you...

kwakudtraveller:

This is a lazy way to address an argument. I’ve noticed that you always narrow every counter argument to us having an oppressed mindset. I’m curious to know what you have done outside of this forum to address this new policy or previous immigration policies. After all I started a petition which most of the people who complain here everyday refused to sign.

triplo3:
[b][/b]


How can you claim no one is doing anyone a favour when the immigration numbers demonstrates people are coming in droves? If it was a 50/50 business deal like you say, shouldn’t direction be in both ways or fairly stable. I don’t just mean from Naija (India, China, Pakistan etc. are on the list). The truth is people will move from areas of economic hardship to areas with more opportunities…just like Osmosis. When you come and you start paying tax in the new system, were you not paying tax in the previous location? What did you get in return? If it’s not a fair deal, people would stop coming and enjoy their extra “money”.

That said, I think immigration should be sustainable, otherwise we overload the system and we get the same “unworkable” system some of us were running away from. When last have you visited a GP or house-hunted? There’s no doubt in my mind this “tiny-Island” is under a lot of pressure and it needs to be released somehow. I don’t like the uncertainty of the immigration laws (they should be fairly stable so people can plan and not be stranded), but how many countries are viable alternatives? Maybe Canada, Australia, USA…be things May even be changing in these countries as well. In terms of voting or making a change, not sure the immigrant vote/lobby is significant enough to move the needle.

Las las, everyone go Dey alright.

How I wish we could get our acts right as a country, doesn’t even have to be el dorado, just back to 2015 economic outlook and the influx from Nigerians won’t be as bad. God punish APC for forcing middle class Nigerians to flee their country!

How you feel about your home country has nothing to do with the Uk, if you think they are doing you a favour and you’re overloading their system, then good for you. It’s a country with very critical people and they always ask questions about everything and motive the govt does. If that’s what we really do back home perhaps Nigeria will not be where it is. Even the Brits themselves are complaining I wonder when some of us became the govt mouth piece to think whatever they are currently doing is in the best interest of everyone. You have even admitted that it needs to be stable so people can plan, is that not what some of us have been saying here? So what’s the stress

Lexusgs430:


Unfortunately, it looks like you're stuck with this contract and would do as network provider advised.......

If you recently moved address, you can write them a letter/email, pleading your case .... They might be kind to you .......

I heard you are the oga of Iptv, abeg how do I watch matches

triplo3:


This is indisputable. I know how much Caesarean Section costs in private hospitals in Nigeria or if you travel to USA or Canada to give birth. It’s very very expensive. I’m sure we all know people who arrived “yesterday” and given birth “today”. It will easily swallow the Ihs fees. Not to mention free schooling for children. There is no free lunch, the money is coming from somewhere.

💯

And many do not pay ihs fees or get it refunded, so the birthing is completely free lol

Datakey:


I heard you are the oga of Iptv, abeg how do I watch matches

Blessed are those who speaketh behind my back ........😜😁

Zahra29:


To add to this, the Home sec in his statement this week said that they estimate that around 75% of dependants do not work, but still make use of public services. That is part of the reason why they felt justified to restrict dependants, majority of whom they believe take more than they contribute, in other words the UK is doing them a favour.

I'm not saying that they are 100% right, but pointing out how the other side thinks and views things.

That estimate of 75% of dependents not working we all know is debatable along the lines of if they have little children they are caring for and the ability to work for how many hours. Secondly they don’t even have recourse to public funds so how are they a burden if the other applicant is taking care of the bills.

triplo3:
[b][/b]


How can you claim no one is doing anyone a favour when the immigration numbers demonstrates people are coming in droves? If it was a 50/50 business deal like you say, shouldn’t direction be in both ways or fairly stable. I don’t just mean from Naija (India, China, Pakistan etc. are on the list). The truth is people will move from areas of economic hardship to areas with more opportunities…just like Osmosis. When you come and you start paying tax in the new system, were you not paying tax in the previous location? What did you get in return? If it’s not a fair deal, people would stop coming and enjoy their extra “money”.

That said, I think immigration should be sustainable, otherwise we overload the system and we get the same “unworkable” system some of us were running away from. When last have you visited a GP or house-hunted? There’s no doubt in my mind this “tiny-Island” is under a lot of pressure and it needs to be released somehow. I don’t like the uncertainty of the immigration laws (they should be fairly stable so people can plan and not be stranded), but how many countries are viable alternatives? Maybe Canada, Australia, USA…be things May even be changing in these countries as well. In terms of voting or making a change, not sure the immigrant vote/lobby is significant enough to move the needle.

Las las, everyone go Dey alright.

How I wish we could get our acts right as a country, doesn’t even have to be el dorado, just back to 2015 economic outlook and the influx from Nigerians won’t be as bad. God punish APC for forcing middle class Nigerians to flee their country!

Imagine middle class man age 45 selling cars and landed properties just to relocate for masters.

We need to talk to each other and do whatever we can to get Nigeria working. Enough of deceiving ourselves.

Lexusgs430:



Blessed are those who speaketh behind my back ........😜😁

Abeg help your boy..

I'm on your DM