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Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Xwizard: 11:34am On Dec 21, 2023 |
Tooor |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by BondRiv: 11:37am On Dec 21, 2023 |
A very funny party that does not know how they won elections. Wike has won elections for you, so you can now blab. Yeye. |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Tzar(m): 11:37am On Dec 21, 2023 |
You people cowardly refused to punish Wike for anti party activities. Then you watched political crisis envelope a valuable state you govern. The governor even had to demolish a N3b assembly complex to save himself, because you cowards couldn’t help him. Now you are making noise?! I just realized PDP has become a paper horse! More bark than bite! 1 Like |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by israelmao(m): 11:37am On Dec 21, 2023 |
If PDP can truly put an action to its words many politicians will learn to be ideological. |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by BondRiv: 11:39am On Dec 21, 2023 |
AqualinaXYZ: Another Mr. Nobody beating his chest. Don't deceive yourself o. Everyone is not equal in that state. That is the reality. Wike has tremendous control. Stop running mouth online. The same person installed the present governor. |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Levels1(m): 11:52am On Dec 21, 2023 |
I only pity the governor as he will end up losing his sit. PDP is only barking and have no teeth |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by DiamondPant(f): 12:01pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Antoeni:They were planning to declare a state of emergency in Rivers state should Fubara refuse to sign the document they prepared. The smartest thing for Fubara to do now is to ensure that Wike is not given the slightest opportunity to unleash mayhem on Rivers for the president to declare a state of emergency. That's what the used to threaten Fubara to sign the document. 1 Like |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by vRendoh(m): 12:11pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Those that sit closest to the fire feels and understand the fire better. PDP should be careful else SIM go be APC tomorrow and PDP cannot do anything. No be court you go run to ?!. My warning is to PDP, handle your reps the way mother hen handles her chick's before the fox. The day are heavy and tempting. Fumarate want peace, he wants to enjoy his reign. No sacrifice would be too big to enjoy the afore mentioned |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Splashme: 12:12pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Yes oo |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by rolams(m): 12:28pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Life without Nairaland is not cool! Welcome back! |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by ReubenE(m): 1:15pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
adioolayi:No, the law did not prescribe for their action to be declared illegal before their seats can be declared vacant. You are just like saying; a court must declare A criminal before he can be arrested for killing B. There is a case law that already made their act illegal, the onus is now on them to go to court to prove their action was not in contravention of the law. They will not because they know they are wrong and it is the reason the president and his party don't even want to go down that path. There is a case law that prescribes that when you abandon the platform upon which you were elected for no judicious reason, your seat becomes vacant. Our electoral laws only allow you to vote for a party and not individuals so what they have done is taking what belongs to the PDP to another party for no justifiable reason according to law |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by adioolayi(m): 1:31pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
ReubenE: I am not a lawyer...all I know is that legislature cannot interpret the law! Senator Ifeanyi Uba defected from YPP to APC, who has declared his seat vacant You know why he is still having it free...it's simply because no one has taken him to court! You talked about case law...a criminal that was arrested for an obvious crime...why do you think he or she will still need to be tried before whatever judgement is delivered What I am saying is, the Speaker cannot just declare their seats vacant, without relying on any court pronouncements specifically on these lawmakers defection. What if after trials, the court pronounce that their deflection is constitutional based on whatever evidence they present to the court You know why the Speaker made that "illegal" pronouncements first?...they want them to be the ones to file court process on it Same way you are also saying, they will be the one to go to court to vacate the pronouncement....No...The PDP should go to court first, to declare their seats vacant and then the speaker can act! |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by TruthsFM: 1:48pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Nice response from the National working committee of Pdp |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Jeyun: 1:59pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
adioolayi:these are the people who have turned our judges to yes daddy, whenever they as u to go to court have it in mind that the judgement have been writen down by them no matter the stand point of the constitution they dont care. Ahmed lawal comes to mind. We don't have court anymore under this regime |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Artscollection: 2:00pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
ReubenE: Some people are not ready to learn, after the layman explaination, this person still feels he or she must support his gods even though they are caught up with their wrong doing. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by gare(f): 3:14pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Pierohandsome: The lawmakers were stupid to have defected, if Wike advised them then it was a miscalculation on his part. Even if Fubara will not has no direct business with the law makers defections, Tinubu can not ask PDP as a party not to take the law makers to court and declare their seats vacant, that's beyond Fubara. So the law makers if fact APC may not give them the opportunity to represent their party, because they already had members who contested those positions before. 1 Like |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Larryndelaw: 4:51pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Is PDP still existing? |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Indispensable85(m): 8:11pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
PDP does not exist |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Sunday2021: 8:53pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Nobody is above the constitution of federal republic of Nigeria. |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Sunday2021: 9:03pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
adioolayi:why are you people so stupid? The law gives the speaker the eight to declear their seats vacant, if they are not happy with it then they should go to court. Today Akpabio declared 2 seats of the senators vacant, is it the court that deleared vacant? The constitution has given the power to the senate president, speaker of reps, speaker of state assembly the right to declear their seats vacant and it has already been done. |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by ufuosman(m): 11:28pm On Dec 21, 2023 |
Ok na |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by ReubenE(m): 12:26am On Dec 22, 2023 |
adioolayi:I don't even understand the point you are trying to make. You are just making attempts to use cases of disregard for the law to justify another wrong. First paragraph: the power to declare a seat vacant in the legislature rests with the Speaker or whoever that's the presiding officer, if a lawmaker defects in contravention of the law or for absenteeism. The Supreme Court already resolved that in the celebrated case of Oloyo v Alegbe (1983) N.S.C.C. 315 in the judgment delivered by Justice Kayode Eso. The case law provides that the Speaker or the House may seek a court action, he does not necessarily have to seek such action before enforcing the provision of Section 109 of the Constitution by excluding the member from the House . A legal dispute only arise after the seat of the lawmaker has been declared vacant and it is the person who is aggrieved that should seek remedy in court. Other organs of government are not bound by law to wait for judicial interpretation before they can perform their functions of applying the law. There is a reason there is the "instrument of judicial review". Where it is proven other organs of state acted outside their power, the judiciary declare it Ultra Vires and status quo is maintained. Second paragraph: Ifeanyi Uba's seat not declared vacant by the house does not mean it is right and it is not right for you to use it as a parallel either. He only survived because he defected to the ruling party and the Assembly management decided to look the other way, thanks to our culture of brazenly disregarding laws in Nigeria. The YPP did not complain because they consider Uba to be bigger than their party and it doesn't still make his action right. Paragraph three: you said a criminal arrested for an obvious crime still needs to be convicted by a court of law. This your reference is only agreeing with me. The obvious crime here is the defection of the lawmakers for no judicious reason, the arrest of the criminal here is the Speaker assuming his responsibility to declare their seats vacant, so they can now approach the courts to seek interpretation if the parties acted within the law. There is a judicial precedent (court pronouncement) over defection so I don't understand what you mean. Section 103 and other case laws did not say there must be specific pronouncement for every specific defection before action can be taken. Paragraph four: if the courts determine their defection is constitutional, they will be reinstated with full benefits. Last paragraph: I don't understand what you mean by the speaker made that "Illegal Pronouncement". The speaker relied on an established law to make the pronouncement. You are not a judge/law court likewise myself to term it illegal. The affected lawmakers should go to court. Nigeria is really a lawless country, same thing Buhari did is what the current president is doing too. In a bid to solve a problem, we disregard the law to do whatever we want. Like the president "ordering" for the former speaker to be reinstated and people find it okay. I'm sure YOU will use this as a future reference just like you did with Uba. The president lacks the power to reverse a judicial pronouncement, only a superior court can but our president just gave an order against what a law court pronounced "authenticating" Ehie Edison as speaker |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Vision101(m): 2:38am On Dec 22, 2023 |
PDP should shut up. They are bunch of clawns. They have failed and they should cover their faces in shame. This was supposed to be a party affair that they should have resolved. They failed. They have no control over Fubara, Wike and house of assembly. Are they sure that they have not lost rivers state completely? |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Whalis: 4:24am On Dec 22, 2023 |
robosky02:In your bitterness against Wike you forgot to research on what the law says about detection and its process. Are you the senate President or speaker they wrote their detection notice to? Do you have the letter of their detection? If 27 of them defected the remaining do they have the quorum to declare the seats of the defectors vacant? This is why IPOB sympathizers like you fail in all your moves. |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by robosky02(m): 8:07am On Dec 22, 2023 |
Whalis: Wike has my respect as a leading politician so have no hatred for him But those law makers that defected Took things to far, Allow Wike and Sim to settle thier difference A reasonable thing to do is stay in PDP and fill for impeachment But they Cross,.. to APC And by the Constitution, Crossing is not allowed Go check it out |
Re: Rivers: No Remedy For 25 Former Lawmakers - PDP Insists by Whalis: 8:44am On Dec 22, 2023 |
robosky02:It is not allowed agreed. But by law is that the way to defect? |
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