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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by rooftops: 10:00pm On Jan 01
Hausa:
You always check stats every time. Stats is not everything.

Did u stop playing football in JS2 or something?

Yes o. I stopped playing in js3 actually.
Why won't I look at stats, it gives you an idea of how a player is. With his stats I can say he is not an upgrade to odegaard presently.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 10:03pm On Jan 01
iamoyindamola:
Martinelli is an asshole and a stupid boy at that

https://twitter.com/Rice6ii/status/1741491145840918888?t=zL7Rgh45sG1npGt5q76OHw&s=19

You think those guys sitting on the bench don’t see the nonsense going on with player rotation and player selection? Did you see Nelson, who was closest extend hand? Na ESR I blame for extending handshake.

You have been playing rubbish this season, you continue to start games, get subbed for another shambolic performance and you are sulking like you are the 2nd coming of F. Ljunberg in his prime. Man has been playing like Bebe of United that year.

Nonsense!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:13pm On Jan 01
Roland17:


You think those guys sitting on the bench don’t see the nonsense going on with player rotation and player selection? Did you see Nelson, who was closest extend hand? Na ESR I blame for extending handshake.

You have been playing rubbish this season, you continue to start games, get subbed for another shambolic performance and you are sulking like you are the 2nd coming of F. Ljunberg in his prime. Man has been playing like Bebe of United that year.

Nonsense!
Very childish and foolish
The issue is our coach will still start him again
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Hausa(m): 10:26pm On Jan 01
rooftops:


Yes o. I stopped playing in js3 actually.
Why won't I look at stats, it gives you an idea of how a player is. With his stats I can say he is not an upgrade to odegaard presently.
While stats is good, in football it's not everything.
It can be deceptive.

The first season I watched Odegaard play, I knew something was off about his game. No hate or anything intended at all. I mean, of what use?

Wo, abeg, make I rest.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 10:35pm On Jan 01
See back to back intensity between Liverpool and Newcastle. See how counter dey flow. E sure me that instead of follow on directly with a sweet counter, our players will rather opponents all recover. 😂😂

Howe hasn't changed tactics yet. Dubravka on 11saves. Smh


Modified. You cannot but love this game.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 10:49pm On Jan 01
Roland17:


You think those guys sitting on the bench don’t see the nonsense going on with player rotation and player selection? Did you see Nelson, who was closest extend hand? Na ESR I blame for extending handshake.

You have been playing rubbish this season, you continue to start games, get subbed for another shambolic performance and you are sulking like you are the 2nd coming of F. Ljunberg in his prime. Man has been playing like Bebe of United that year.

Nonsense!

Nelson's face says it all. Arteta may be his own undoing. Lol. This will affect the confidence of the boys on bench while he's busy trying so hard at the expense of the team to nake Kai gather confidence 😂
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:00pm On Jan 01
daveP:



I think one funny thing about Kai situation is that the sensationalism of him trying to pick up has beclouded the fanbase of a team that were ruthless throughout last season. Sensationalism won't get us goals. As far as Kai plays on the Left majorly, irrespective of role or whatever, his impact is way way way far from the overall impact Xhaka has on that same region.


The more shocking thing is that Arteta changed the style to accommodate THIS ONE PLAYER


LET THAT SINK DEEP. A manager doing that to the setup of a team that finished 2nd?? Repercussions dey, asides other troubling issues with the attack. We just pray he utilizes this January.
How did he changed the style please? I want to know.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:02pm On Jan 01
iamoyindamola:

The boy is stupid
Normally he no suppose start till next month
Very stupid. Sadly, we don't have a good backup. Maybe we can move Jesus to the wing and play Nketiah / Havertz up top.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:13pm On Jan 01
mostob:
How did he changed the style please? I want to know.

Haven't you listened to our Legends saying this since September till now? Henry, Wright, Etc? Wowwww.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Leyqute(m): 12:00am On Jan 02
Why ekun egbere come plenty for here?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Leyqute(m): 12:02am On Jan 02
iamoyindamola:
Martinelli is an asshole and a stupid boy at that

https://twitter.com/Rice6ii/status/1741491145840918888?t=zL7Rgh45sG1npGt5q76OHw&s=19

Because he didn't shake ESR? Ahan, e rora na. What if he was freaking angry with his performance and didn't even see the extended palm? He did acknowledge the guy sitting beside him, didn't he?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:09am On Jan 02
Leyqute:


Because he didn't shake ESR? Ahan, e rora na. What if he was freaking angry with his performance and didn't even see the extended palm? He did acknowledge the guy sitting beside him, didn't he?
He saw it and esr didn't tell him to be playing rubbish
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:41am On Jan 02
Leyqute:
Why ekun egbere come plenty for here?

Allow us wail na..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:46am On Jan 02
Leyqute:


Because he didn't shake ESR? Ahan, e rora na. What if he was freaking angry with his performance and didn't even see the extended palm? He did acknowledge the guy sitting beside him, didn't he?

Ara nkan wa o and to hell with his anger. He has been stinking up the joint for a while now and I have run out of patience with all of them angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by reccy(m): 6:52am On Jan 02
Hausa:
Breakout? No. He got injured.
It's funny how u picked Florian like u didnt understand the point of "WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE IN MIDFIELD."

Wetin concern me with Odegaard?
He's not good enough for us. ANd that's the point!

Please, can you just send him to us. all of us @ Chelsea will gladly appreciate you....

In as much I agree that he needs improvement
and up his game - which every player must - saying odegaard is not good for you guys is a careless and way below expectations from an Arsenal fan.

One thing I noticed about Arsenal play this season is that, they are too blunt, stagnant, no high press, no quick transition and no hunger like last season.

I watched few Arsenal games last season, I was impressed with their team work, high pressed and hunger to win. The trio of saka, martinelli and Saka were very active and dominated their opponents. I watched them and I instantly rooted for them for EPL. When one compares that performance to this very one, you guys will be deceiving yourself if you think it's an improvement.

What went wrong? Definitely,not the players but the system and the structure!!!!

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:53am On Jan 02
Hausa:
I don't need anyone to take me seriously, lol.
Na una dey find who una go take hold body. I don't need it.
For many years, I've said we can't go all the way with the quality we have. E go be like sey na bad belle, but I've been proven right every single time. You're carried away with stats, se-len-se football and flair. I'm not.
All I'm saying is, what we have cannot take you and I to where we want to be.
But I guess the definition of where we both want to be is subject to our varying interpretation.

I know where I desire my club to be. But I know that these guys won't take us there.

Come'on!
We didn't win the League in 2005, 06, 07 and 08 with far superior players and u think we will now?
How? Why? Better Coach? Better squad? What a joke!
We almost won last season, like we didn't almost win it for many other seasons.


One ucl final in over 20 years and you think we can now reach even the ucl semi finals with these players?
Are u not seeing what our competitors are doing and how they're doing it? Nawa ooo!!!
History plays Football, bro. Know this and know peace.

You will keep dreaming and get nothing. Unfortunately, whatever you get is what I also get.
Show me any other seasons in the last 10yrs that we nearly won the league just like last season?

Saying we can't reach UCL semi with this squad is pure hogwash. Less fancied teams than ours have reached s/f and our team can reach it. It all depends on favourable draws.

You've been watching football for the past 20yrs, like you said and you feel all these players can't take us to where we want to be.
You've given some criteria. I also believe you're an avid football lover watching other teams.

Now please, who are these players you think we should get that can improve this team?. These players should be a realistic target and should fall within your criteria.

Name the 4 players at least that you feel will displace Saka, Martinelli, Jesus and Odegaard and as well fall within your criteria and also be a realistic target for arsenal.

When you do this, all what you'll be saying would make proper sense to me, cos personally to me, you're saying things that's not realistic at all. You're just saying "el Dorado" rappings.

Do this let's analyse them as football fans we are, then we can proceed with our conversation better

Thank you!!!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:03am On Jan 02
Hausa:
You don't even get it.
You can lead me. I can even lead you.

But there's no guarantee that I have what it takes to Lead u to where you want to be............. and vice versa.
And that's a FACT!!!
And that's my point!!!
Name this players that will Lead us to where we want to be and that will be realistic for arsenal to get.

Cos to be honest with you, whenever you're mentioning this leaders, improvement of the team and sort, what I'm thinking Is Mbappe, Salah, Kane and Kdb .

Why?
According to your criteria

Are they leaders that have won things? Yes
Would they improve the team with consistency? Yes
Would they displace all our players in the current position? Certainly Yes

But the issue is

Are they realistic target for Arsenal? Certainly No.

So that negates all the points you're raising so far and it's the reason why I myself (and probably some others) are not getting you.

Until you do this I believe we'll be at the same page. Until then, it'll keep on been seen that you're speaking a different language
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:18am On Jan 02
daveP:


Haven't you listened to our Legends saying this since September till now? Henry, Wright, Etc? Wowwww.
Saying what exactly? Did they criticize Havertz for his poor performance? Yes. Was there a little variation to how we play? Yes. Was the variation because of Havertz? Na you go answer this one o. Maybe you can remind me. grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:21am On Jan 02
reccy:


Please, can you just send him to us. all of us @ Chelsea will gladly appreciate you....

In as much I agree that he needs improvement
and up his game - which every player must - saying odegaard is not good for you guys is a careless and way below expectations from an Arsenal fan.

One thing I noticed about Arsenal play this season is that, they are too blunt, stagnant, no high press, no quick transition and no hunger like last season.

I watched few Arsenal games last season, I was impressed with their team work, high pressed and hunger to win. The trio of saka, martinelli and Saka were very active and dominated their opponents. I watched them and I instantly rooted for them for EPL. When one compares that performance to this very one, you guys will be deceiving yourself if you think it's an improvement.

What went wrong? Definitely,not the players but the system and the structure!!!!
Gbam! But yours truly has been following arsenal since 1925.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:50am On Jan 02
Ray07:
wetin come be today . . . New year, new club. grin

Happy new year boss. smiley
My own na new year, new beginning.
I'm giving my love arsenal a new beginning > grin

Happy New year to you bro

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:01am On Jan 02
Spy360:

Havertz role is the control of spaces on the left which brings a level on dominance and creates spaces for Martinelli or attack from that area. That is the role of the LAM in that Arteta formation, which was also the role Trossard played but to little effect. So far, Havertz have shown that he is the best we have in that position for now. It was based on this that I said that we would have done better if he played as I saw that we weren't succeeding with our tactics despite our high possession 76% and shots on goal 30 (stats again).

However with that tactics still not working against Fulham as we were struggling I felt that Arteta could have in that moment assigned Havertz a striking role inside the box to challenge for headers. All these na permutations.
All these ones na wash you talk for the bolded.

Was that the bolded Xhaka was doing last and the season before that, that you claimed that it's how our LAM plays?

Everyone who watched West Ham game knows that Havertz wasn't missed cos we controlled the game instead it was chances missed(we even have 77 touches in their box).

And the game against Fulham proved so. Havertz is not a threat offensively in this team. Everybody knows that!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Ray07(m): 9:18am On Jan 02
Jodera:

My own na new year, new beginning.
I'm giving my love arsenal a new beginning > grin

Happy New year to you bro
No wahala.
Na when your club end for 7 position you go know wetin I yan. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:37am On Jan 02
daveP:
Then asking whoever that they should drop names is an unnecessary thing to do. Not all of us may want to admit it but deep down we know this team is way below the form of last season and that is scary. The departure of Xhaka is really a big stepdown for overall output, sadly. Imagine a team wanting to win title doing siwes for a player to regain confidence when we should be having atmosphere of title challengers in conduct, deed and zeal on pitch. Chai! Arsenal o!!

We'll leave the new players over to the scouts but they better sha get players that will make those teo wingers to stop feeling way too special cos of Starting shirt. I can't imagine a crucial ucl ko match and one of two is injured or with a knock.
This team is so waaay off from last season. From the performance to the goals to the cohesion, it's just so bad. Only defence seems to even stand strong and even the defence sef is just the CBs.

How our attack is just toothless both from Midfield to the forward is just so so bad. Arteta is just mismanaging this season with his pragmatism (scoring first and trying to close shop). We should have continued like last season when we were all gun blazing. Now we're just the opposite.

Anytime I look at both tables from this season and last, I just deh shake my head embarassed

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:37am On Jan 02
Ray07:
No wahala.
Na when your club end for 7 position you go know wetin I yan. grin
Lmaoooo grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:50am On Jan 02
You know I thing about arsenal fans them they quick turn against anybody
If wengay fit collect this arteta small
Now I am reading arteta is responsible here and there
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:55am On Jan 02
daveP:



I think one funny thing about Kai situation is that the sensationalism of him trying to pick up has beclouded the fanbase of a team that were ruthless throughout last season. Sensationalism won't get us goals. As far as Kai plays on the Left majorly, irrespective of role or whatever, his impact is way way way far from the overall impact Xhaka has on that same region.


The more shocking thing is that Arteta changed the style to accommodate THIS ONE PLAYER


LET THAT SINK DEEP. A manager doing that to the setup of a team that finished 2nd?? Repercussions dey, asides other troubling issues with the attack. We just pray he utilizes this January.
Facts about the bolded!!!. That's what I noticed especially with my offline friends reason why I said the bar was set too too low for him. He has picked from his very very poor display he showed early season but if we look at even his improvement to this team, it's not that really high. Na that thing dey weak me, and na why if I see other forums/arsenal site, I see some commenters saying Havertz absence was the reason why we lost West ham, e deh shock me. Look at his game well and offensively his one of our weakest link.

We need improvement, we need change of structure and most importantly we need a Striker.

Arteta needs to involve his depth more.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Leyqute(m): 10:00am On Jan 02
iamoyindamola:

He saw it and esr didn't tell him to be playing rubbish

Shey make e go kîll himsef ni? Shebi he is trying his best?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Leyqute(m): 10:01am On Jan 02
Roland17:


Ara nkan wa o and to hell with his anger. He has been stinking up the joint for a while now and I have run out of patience with all of them angry

Ara nkan oun naa na. Why did you think he was thrashing around?

We all want the worst best for Arsenal grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:33am On Jan 02
Leyqute:


Shey make e go kîll himsef ni? Shebi he is trying his best?
You no go understand we set a standard for these guys or they leave
We once had Pepe and ozil kind of players, will you also say players like Anthony is doing his best
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:47am On Jan 02
Jodera:
This team is so waaay off from last season. From the performance to the goals to the cohesion, it's just so bad. Only defence seems to even stand strong and even the defence sef is just the CBs.

How our attack is just toothless both from Midfield to the forward is just so so bad. [b]Arteta is just mismanaging this season with his pragmatism (scoring first and trying to close shop). [/b]We should have continued like last season when we were all gun blazing. Now we're just the opposite.

Anytime I look at both tables from this season and last, I just deh shake my head embarassed
This right here is what I’ve also noticed, instead of scoring goals, he’ll be trying to close close like this is Mourinho team.

I was discussing this with a fellow Arsenal fan and he was still defending Arteta on it and O asked why we keep doing something over and over again and expect results, cause even Me that Stan Arteta is beginning to give him a bombastic side eye🌚😂. Mehn, all I want for the team is to quickly gel up as we’re entering into the other half of the season.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Leyqute(m): 10:49am On Jan 02
iamoyindamola:

You no go understand we set a standard for these guys or they leave
We once had Pepe and ozil kind of players, will you also say players like Anthony is doing his best

Antony is mad af 💢

Whenever he's going off I don't want him to shake anybody sef.

But shey you'll take Antony and give us Martinelli? At all at all you'll have a backup for Saka 😎
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:14am On Jan 02
Leyqute:


Antony is mad af 💢

Whenever he's going off I don't want him to shake anybody sef.

But shey you'll take Antony and give us Martinelli? At all at all you'll have a backup for Saka 😎
But we know it won't change anything if una get martinelli

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