I am a Frontend Developer .. let me call myself intermediate however, i haven't had any full time role before . The only thing I have done is an internship and throughout the internship I was Opportuned to get some on the job training.

The journey hasn't been easy so far.. Looking back at everything i have invested well close to 500 k on this web dev stuff, yet i haven't gotten a job yet

To me it seems like this tech of a thing is just another Gold rush that seem to go nowhere. The stuff is to me seems more like luck...and i am getting tired of the whole thing all together

You will see guys posting tech as a pathway to wealth but is it really...

I was doing marketing jejely before jumping into Tech.. Now i'm soo soo jobless
I have submitted countless applications, yet no evidence.. Most won't even reply, and some will respectfully send a rejection.

I don't know if i should pivot to another thing or give up altogether... Cause this stuff isn't bringing money, and someone has to sort out oneself else one will end up marrying at 35..

What do you guys think about this. Are you earning any money off front-end... Pls be realistic...


If you are, How do you do it, If you aren't how are you juggling expenses

In case you want to know what skill level I fall into, here is my portfolio:https://yusuff-portfolio.netlify.app/#Work

You don't have a problem bro ..

First of all are you in Lagos ?

If YES then contact me

Well I think maybe you started tech in a period some will call "Saturated". However, to get a good tech job now is mostly by experience and recommendation. You can still keep improving yourself by the side and keep applying though, you might be one of the lucky few

refsilva:
I am a Frontend Developer .. let me call myself intermediate however, i haven't had any full time role before . The only thing I have done is an internship and throughout the internship I was Opportuned to get some on the job training.

The journey hasn't been easy so far.. Looking back at everything i have invested well close to 500 k on this web dev stuff, yet i haven't gotten a job yet

To me it seems like this tech of a thing is just another Gold rush that seem to go nowhere. The stuff is to me seems more like luck...and i am getting tired of the whole thing all together

You will see guys posting tech as a pathway to wealth but is it really...

I was doing marketing jejely before jumping into Tech.. Now i'm soo soo jobless
I have submitted countless applications, yet no evidence.. Most won't even reply, and some will respectfully send a rejection.

I don't know if i should pivot to another thing or give up altogether... Cause this stuff isn't bringing money, and someone has to sort out oneself else one will end up marrying at 35..

What do you guys think about this. Are you earning any money off front-end... Pls be realistic...


If you are, How do you do it, If you aren't how are you juggling expenses

In case you want to know what skill level I fall into, here is my portfolio:https://yusuff-portfolio.netlify.app/#Work

My mindset is somewhat different.. so I don't look for jobs

Have you thought about building a product with your skill that can fetch you money, rather than searching for job.

I know it is going to be difficult to achieve, but very possible to achieve.

P.S. Job hunting would be easier for you if you have the right connections, you may try to network a bit more, if you don't already.

This is still one of the most sought after positions globally. It's a bit bumpy in Nigeria because companies would rather rebrand apps, or get cheap labour on fiverr/Upwork, than employ a number of seasoned Devs. Except big companies that don't joke with cybersecurity.

Keep improving your skills by building apps (learn some back end stuff too). Search for remote dev positions online, full time, part-time, short contract - anyone that'd give you experience and international exposure.

To build a product no easy, it would have been the best part.

Every body be forming, I sabi code, even the companies are confused.

Op u sure say u sabi front end well?

Can u create JS objects and work with them?

U sabi use apply, call n co?

U sabi use arrays?

How many loops u sabi use?

Can u return the highest score from this object?

let obj = {a:10,b:80,c:30,d:40,e:50,f:1,g:5}

Can you return the most reoccurring letter in this tex?

let txt = “My name is John Doe Amadi, I love humanity”

I have been waiting for some of you to come with this confession, I almost wrote a post about it. THE PROBLEM IS THAT OUTSIDERS ARE COMMERCIALIZING TECH SKILLS. I am a senior dev, having above 12 years of experience. Tech has a culture, and that culture is "problem solving" and not "money chasing".

You failed to study the industry before getting into it, maybe because they lied to you just to sell you courses.

Software developers focus on solving problems not making money, the problem you solved or can solve will bring money e.g Elon musk, Mark, bill gate etc

Let’s be honest even we devs are to blame..

Some of us no suppose Dey apply for some roles, judging by our skill sets but we will still apply..

Kingrshd3:
You don't have a problem bro ..

First of all are you in Lagos ?

If YES then contact me

I'm in lagosooo, can I contact you boss

As long as you keep putting pressure on yourself, you'll go nowhere. Many things are wrong with you and someone like me may not even consider you for a job. You are so much in a haste.

In one hand you are talking about getting a job; in the other you want to get married by 35. If the realities in this country can't make you calm down and clean up your life to a very good extent before getting married, I don't know what will. So, if you find a job that pays let's say 200k now, the first thing you'll do will be to get married right?

What's wrong in getting married between 38-40 or even at 41? Do you know that the quality of life you give to your family matters more than the family itself? Do you usually reflect how your life would've been if you went to a good and big school where you make friends with children of the rich? Why do you want to end up average and even make your children stay below average?

Plan on giving your family a very good life. Don't rush into marriage. Take your time and develop yourself. Since you know frontend, go for backend. Develop your own project to show that you really know. And such project should contain or show all the key things about being a fullstack developer. Companies prefer all-in-one programmers.

Put your head down and build your life. Take marriage off your table for now.

refsilva:
I am a Frontend Developer .. let me call myself intermediate however, i haven't had any full time role before . The only thing I have done is an internship and throughout the internship I was Opportuned to get some on the job training.

The journey hasn't been easy so far.. Looking back at everything i have invested well close to 500 k on this web dev stuff, yet i haven't gotten a job yet

To me it seems like this tech of a thing is just another Gold rush that seem to go nowhere. The stuff is to me seems more like luck...and i am getting tired of the whole thing all together

You will see guys posting tech as a pathway to wealth but is it really...

I was doing marketing jejely before jumping into Tech.. Now i'm soo soo jobless
I have submitted countless applications, yet no evidence.. Most won't even reply, and some will respectfully send a rejection.

I don't know if i should pivot to another thing or give up altogether... Cause this stuff isn't bringing money, and someone has to sort out oneself else one will end up marrying at 35..

What do you guys think about this. Are you earning any money off front-end... Pls be realistic...


If you are, How do you do it, If you aren't how are you juggling expenses

In case you want to know what skill level I fall into, here is my portfolio:https://yusuff-portfolio.netlify.app/#Work

Don't just stop at front-end, try to become a fullstack developer... It is too soon to give up on that

Englishisamust:


I'm in lagosooo, can I contact you boss

Then where in Lagos are you contact me..

Kingrshd3:


Then where in Lagos are you contact me..

Ogba side

I thought it was a skill thing not knowing that job seeking is part of it. 9ja no easy to find work

Sooo surprised to hear that a developer is jobless

People will be shouting go and learn a skill esp coding as if it will make you automatically self employed and comfortable.

Any skill that will involve job hunting to succeed is not worth it. That is why content creation, YouTube channel, blogging, affiliate marketing seems better

I think it has to do with networking sha.. getting referrers and all.

Some Frontend developers I know are balling big time.. but most are pro.

samuelson06:
As long as you keep putting pressure on yourself, you'll go nowhere. Many things are wrong with you and someone like me may not even consider you for a job. You are so much in a haste.

In one hand you are talking about getting a job; in the other you want to get married by 35. If the realities in this country can't make you calm down and clean up your life to a very good extent before getting married, I don't know what will. So, if you find a job that pays let's say 200k now, the first thing you'll do will be to get married right?

What's wrong in getting married between 38-40 or even at 41? Do you know that the quality of life you give to your family matters more than the family itself? Do you usually reflect how your life would've been if you went to a good and big school where you make friends with children of the rich? Why do you want to end up average and even make your children stay below average?

Plan on giving your family a very good life. Don't rush into marriage. Take your time and develop yourself. Since you know frontend, go for backend. Develop your own project to show that you really know. And such project should contain or show all the key things about being a fullstack developer. Companies prefer all-in-one programmers.

Put your head down and build your life. Take marriage off your table for now.

Someone has even advised you well OP and you still came to post the thing here. Men I wish I could like this comment more than once.

tensazangetsu20:


Someone has even advised you well OP and you still came to post the thing here. Men I wish I could like this comment more than once.

Lol. Come buy be beer nah

samuelson06:


Lol. Come buy be beer nah

I would if I dey your side. You deserve one for that comment.

tensazangetsu20:


I would if I dey your side. You deserve one for that comment.

No wahala bro. I only wish the young man would take it and run with his life.

Usually, I plead with young men around me to exercise a little restrain, fix themselves, and from there, they can go build a family.

All of us would have loved to finish with childbearing before we get to 40 or 42. I would've loved to do that, at least that's what is obtainable in first world countries. Even before 35, many of them are done with childbearing—two or three kids and they done. Before 40, you see their body recovering and the females will appear like they've not given birth before.

But here we are in a country that our leaders don't care about us; nothing works here. The few gains we made as a country, they've destroyed everything as we speak. Today, the once giant of Africa stands like a begger. Nigeria is practically begging for survival. As young people, and we have to understand this sad reality and adjust accordingly.

I come from a humble background so I've tasted poverty. Poverty has a sour and bitter taste. Its color is black, and once it draws you to itself, your life practically becomes like the black color, a dark night, and a nightmare. The taste of your life becomes sour and bitter, and everyone tries to distant themselves from you—not because they truly hate you, but because you have nothing to offer—nothing to offer yourself, nor your children. There and then, it becomes clear to you that your life is a waste. But you had the chance not to get here

Sometimes, I don't teach people how to lead a good life. I sit with them and talk about poverty and the moment they make up their mind to reject that demon, they become motivated to work—putting everything else aside and just fight to defeat that monster.

Being a Nigerian, I know this country so well and I know it may never change—at least, not in this generation. So, I seize every opportunity to talk to young people about ways they can fix their life independent of the support they ought to get from the government. The task may be enormous but it's surmountable. It requires patience, hardwork, consistency, focus, and determination to succeed.

You'll be wasting your time if you keep jumping from one hustle to another. It shows that you are not serious or you may be too in a hurry to make it. Let's take the poster here for example, he's invested some amount of time, money, and other resources into becoming a frontend developer and he's on his way to becoming an expert in that field. Sadly, he now feels he's been wasting his time choosing a path that doesn't work and now feels like throwing away the experience and momentum he's been gathering in the coding sphere.

If that happens, he's going to start all over again elsewhere. Meanwhile, they are people succeeding where he's running away from and all he needed was to build on what he's known already and keep forging ahead. When it comes to success, you don't do magic. You just have to find a way and keep building up the momentum and with time, even nature will bear witness with your spirit that you've done your best and it's time for you to be announced to the world.

I can keep talking and talking. There's a formula to succeeding even in a rough country like Nigeria, but you have to be serious. It's not a game of luck but hard work—putting first things first, and not giving up.

I wish all of us the best in 2024.

samuelson06:


No wahala bro. I only wish the young man would take it and run with his life.

Usually, I plead with young men around me to exercise a little restrain, fix themselves, and from there, they can go build a family.

All of us would have loved to finish with childbearing before we get to 40 or 42. I would've loved to do that, at least that's what is obtainable in first world countries. Even before 35, many of them are done with childbearing—two or three kids and they done. Before 40, you see their body recovering and the females will appear like they've not given birth before.

But here we are in a country that our leaders don't care about us; nothing works here. The few gains we made as a country, they've destroyed everything as we speak. Today, the once giant of Africa stands like a begger. Nigeria is practically begging for survival. As young people, and we have to understand this sad reality and adjust accordingly.

I come from a humble background so I've tasted poverty. Poverty has a sour and bitter taste. Its color is black, and once it draws you to itself, your life practically becomes like the black color, a dark night, and a nightmare. The taste of your life becomes sour and bitter, and everyone tries to distant themselves from you—not because they truly hate you, but because you have nothing to offer—nothing to offer yourself, nor your children. There and then, it becomes clear to you that your life is a waste. But you had the chance not to get here

Sometimes, I don't teach people how to lead a good life. I sit with them and talk about poverty and the moment they make up their mind to reject that demon, they become motivated to work—putting everything else aside and just fight to defeat that monster.

Being a Nigerian, I know this country so well and I know it may never change—at least, not in this generation. So, I seize every opportunity to talk to young people about ways they can fix their life independent of the support they ought to get from the government. The task may be enormous but it's surmountable. It requires patience, hardwork, consistency, focus, and determination to succeed.

You'll be wasting your time if you keep jumping from one hustle to another. It shows that you are not serious or you may be too in a hurry to make it. Let's take the poster here for example, he's invested some amount of time, money, and other resources into becoming a frontend developer and he's on his way to becoming an expert in that field. Sadly, he now feels he's been wasting his time choosing a path that doesn't work and now feels like throwing away the experience and momentum he's been gathering in the coding sphere.

If that happens, he's going to start all over again elsewhere. Meanwhile, they are people succeeding where he's running away from and all he needed was to build on what he's known already and keep forging ahead. When it comes to success, you don't do magic. You just have to find a way and keep building up the momentum and with time, even nature will bear witness with your spirit that you've done your best and it's time for you to be announced to the world.

I can keep talking and talking. There's a formula to succeeding even in a rough country like Nigeria, but you have to be serious. It's not a game of luck but hard work—putting first things first, and not giving up.

I wish all of us the best in 2024.

I had the same mindset back in 2020. Honestly, I didnt even know Nigeria was that bad until 2020. I saw the country was finished. To be honest, if I never left I will never get married or have children in Nigeria. I will just save enough to live quietly in my village till death comes.

samuelson06:
As long as you keep putting pressure on yourself, you'll go nowhere. Many things are wrong with you and someone like me may not even consider you for a job. You are so much in a haste.

In one hand you are talking about getting a job; in the other you want to get married by 35. If the realities in this country can't make you calm down and clean up your life to a very good extent before getting married, I don't know what will. So, if you find a job that pays let's say 200k now, the first thing you'll do will be to get married right?

What's wrong in getting married between 38-40 or even at 41? Do you know that the quality of life you give to your family matters more than the family itself? Do you usually reflect how your life would've been if you went to a good and big school where you make friends with children of the rich? Why do you want to end up average and even make your children stay below average?

Plan on giving your family a very good life. Don't rush into marriage. Take your time and develop yourself. Since you know frontend, go for backend. Develop your own project to show that you really know. And such project should contain or show all the key things about being a fullstack developer. Companies prefer all-in-one programmers.

Put your head down and build your life. Take marriage off your table for now.

God bless you for this post.

tensazangetsu20:


I had the same mindset back in 2020. Honestly, I didnt even know Nigeria was that bad until 2020. I saw the country was finished. To be honest, if I never left I will never get married or have children in Nigeria. I will just save enough to live quietly in my village till death comes.

Lol. There's nothing I hate like poverty. How can I sit and watch my children that can't even fight for themselves living in want? Many parents in Nigeria today can't even afford baby food let alone children toy.

I have a neighbor with two babies in a self-contain room. We are both paying rent. The wife takes care of the babies in the house while he works, but how much is he paid monthly? Peanut! Not even up to 200k. And he'll be bragging about having a son, when he's always timing to see when I leave the house so I can drop him off. Now, tell me, when is he going to leave behind such poverty? Where is the joy in raising the family? How can I live with two kids in a self-con, even if 1 or 2 bedroom flat sef, as long as it's rented? When am I going to build my own house and stop paying rent?

So, these are the issues. No be say we like to dey fornicate, but that's better than getting into a mess in the name of getting married or raising a family.

Evolutionism:


God bless you for this post.

Amen

samuelson06:


Lol. There's nothing I hate like poverty. How can I sit and watch my children that can't even fight for themselves living in want? Many parents in Nigeria today can't even afford baby food let alone children toy.

I have a neighbor with two babies in a self-contain room. We are both paying rent. The wife takes care of the babies in the house while he works, but how much is he paid monthly? Peanut! Not even up to 200k. And he'll be bragging about having a son, when he's always timing to see when I leave the house so I can drop him off. Now, tell me, when is he going to leave behind such poverty? Where is the joy in raising the family? How can I live with two kids in a self-con, even if 1 or 2 bedroom flat sef, as long as it's rented? When am I going to build my own house and stop paying rent?
.

The mentality lies in the Nigerian culture (some ethnic groups are worse than others) and religion which tell people that children are blessings. I have been preaching since 2016 on this forum that children are not blessings from God just because they were born. Any woman can give birth including a mad woman. Children are only blessings when taken care of. To properly take care of a child(ren) requires money, time and energy. Our people just believe in marry today, born tomorrow.

As for your neigbour, two children never do for am? Why does he need more children? Having a son? I am sure he wants to the child to "takeover his lineage and name". Put his name into Google search and NOTHING WILL COME OUT! Sometimes, I blame Nigerian women and how they have allowed themselves to be deceived by religion. If I was such a woman, I will search for the best contraceptive my body accepts and play the long game till menopause. Meanwhile, when one mentions vasectomy to Nigerian men, they foolishly think it stops erection and semen production.

samuelson06:


Lol. There's nothing I hate like poverty. How can I sit and watch my children that can't even fight for themselves living in want? Many parents in Nigeria today can't even afford baby food let alone children toy.

I have a neighbor with two babies in a self-contain room. We are both paying rent. The wife takes care of the babies in the house while he works, but how much is he paid monthly? Peanut! Not even up to 200k. And he'll be bragging about having a son, when he's always timing to see when I leave the house so I can drop him off. Now, tell me, when is he going to leave behind such poverty? Where is the joy in raising the family? How can I live with two kids in a self-con, even if 1 or 2 bedroom flat sef, as long as it's rented? When am I going to build my own house and stop paying rent?

So, these are the issues. No be say we like to dey fornicate, but that's better than getting into a mess in the name of getting married or raising a family.

It's always interesting to watch Nigerians put themselves into hardship intentionally just by making awful decisions.

I no dey pity them again. Baba! Oil dey your head.

tensazangetsu20:


I had the same mindset back in 2020. Honestly, I didnt even know Nigeria was that bad until 2020. I saw the country was finished. To be honest, if I never left I will never get married or have children in Nigeria. I will just save enough to live quietly in my village till death comes.

This comment funny gan i don laugh tire but it is the naked truth as funny as it is, I have decided to go back to my state of origin as you said or redeploy my work to there because this city life with 160k salary na rat race with nothing to save.

I earn 160k in a month in one of the cheapest cities to live in, yet my salary finishes in 1week no matter “financial prudency” I try to do.

The country don bad scatter scatter even those in Abj and Lagos are feeling it.

Only politicians are exempted.

Whoever no commot this country this 2024, by 2027 when Tinubu wins re-election, he or she will regret it.

Tech is good but it is getting saturated. When it comes to remote jobs, the competition is stiff and a company will choose the best hands. If you think you are very good, then hang on and keep pushing because it is too late to give up now.

Gerrard59:


The mentality lies in the Nigerian culture (some ethnic groups are worse than others) and religion which tell people that children are blessings. I have been preaching since 2016 on this forum that children are not blessings from God just because they were born. Any woman can give birth including a mad woman. Children are only blessings when taken care of. To properly take care of a child(ren) requires money, time and energy. Our people just believe in marry today, born tomorrow.

As for your neigbour, two children never do for am? Why does he need more children? Having a son? I am sure he wants to the child to "takeover his lineage and name". Put his name into Google search and NOTHING WILL COME OUT! Sometimes, I blame Nigerian women and how they have allowed themselves to be deceived by religion. If I was such a woman, I will search for the best contraceptive my body accepts and play the long game till menopause. Meanwhile, when one mentions vasectomy to Nigerian men, they foolishly think it stops erection and semen production.

You've touched some real good stuff in this comment. Like you've said, children are only a blessing when they are well taken care of—not choking them up in a room and expecting miracle of success when they grow into adulthood.

There's a baby genius in Maths on TikTok. The child is just two and can't really talk but can do wonders when it comes to arithmetics (not simple ones). You keep wondering how he does it, you don't understand. The child gives you straight answers to multiplication problems that should take long steps to get the answers.

When commenters asked the mom how she did it, the young mom explained that she exposes the child to learning on YouTube. So, the child keeps absorbing and absorbing those materials until it got to a stage that his brain got configured to also solve those problems without further classroom learning.

What are we saying here? The parents were able to sacrifice a screen in the house, got internet connection, and made time to supervise the child to consistently feed on the content of whatever channel that was coming from. They sacrificed the time needed for the child at that time. Now, we can only imagine the genius that child will become in future. And that's going to make things very easy for the parents because the child is going to start making money earlier than his peers.

So, once you have prepared for the child and have everything in place, parenting becomes easy. You just get result without much struggles. How many parents make time or have the financial muscle to raise a child like that? But they don't see it that way. They don't even see anything wrong with their abysmal parenting situation. Their only joy is that they are married and God has "blessed" them with kid(s).

Then when it comes to contraceptives, I think the sensitization isn't enough, but then, who are you waiting for to sensitize you on what contraception method is best for you or how it can help your life? Sadly, there's so much knowledge gap there. Do you know that most married men don't even have regard for contraception? I had a neighbor who's now in his village because of self-induced hardship. Then I used to bring condoms to the compound and I'll call him to come get some like guys do, but nigga will be behaving as though I'm introducing him to some sort of sin. So, I stopped and used my weapons alone.

Years later, he's burdened his life with two kids in a bedroom flat. His wife was doing nothing while he was a Bolter. Long story short, they had to relocate to the village because of hardship—they couldn't afford the rent again. But what brought the hardship? Unplanned marriage and pregnancy! Once women enter marriage, they want to have a baby. They hardly care whether you use condom or you don't, afterall, everyone enjoys skin-to-skin. So, you got a child when you were not doing anything serious and as if that wasn't enough, you impregnated the woman again while she was breastfeeding the baby and that forced her to wean the child at hand.

The man rejected contraception because he thought married men don't need it and the woman wasn't responsible enough to insist on protection or no sex. So, it's a whole lot of issues that require reorientation of our people. They won't just listen to you and when the chips are down, they want to push some of their responsibilities to you else they see you as not wanting to help them. Meanwhile, both of you hard same opportunities and even from similar backgrounds but you were able to delay some gratifications to fix yours.

Sometimes, they may even feel you are doing fraud without knowing that there's nothing that can bring a man down so quick like him rushing into marriage and beginning to make babies he can't raise. That thing is one way ticket to poverty and when their eyes become clear, they regret everything. By then the children have probably become street children and no longer respect them, because the children now see them as useless or near-useless parents.

Again, where's the glory? Where's the joy?

samuelson06:


You've touched some real good stuff in this comment. Like you've said, children are only a blessing when they are well taken care of—not choking them up in a room and expecting miracle of success when they grow into adulthood.

There's a baby genius in Maths on TikTok. The child is just two and can't really talk but can do wonders when it comes to arithmetics (not simple ones). You keep wondering how he does it, you don't understand. The child gives you straight answers to multiplication problems that should take long steps to get the answers.

When commenters asked the mom how she did it, the young mom explained that she exposes the child to learning on YouTube. So, the child keeps absorbing and absorbing those materials until it got to a stage that his brain got configured to also solve those problems without further classroom learning.

What are we saying here? The parents were able to sacrifice a screen in the house, got internet connection, and made time to supervise the child to consistently feed on the content of whatever channel that was coming from. The sacrificed the time needed for the child at that time. Now, we can only imagine the genius that child will become in future. And that's going to make things very easy for the parents because the child is going to start making money earlier than his peers.

So, once you have prepared for the child and have everything in place, parenting becomes easy. You just get result without much struggles. How many parents make time or have the financial muscle to raise a child like that? But they don't see it that way. They don't even see anything wrong with their abysmal parenting situation. Their only joy is that they are married and God has "blessed" them with kid(s).

Then when it comes to contraceptives, I think the sensitization isn't enough, but then, who are you waiting for to sensitize you on what contraception method is best for you or how it can help your life? Sadly, there's so much knowledge gap there. Do you know that most married men don't even have regard for contraception? I had a neighbor who's now in his village because of self-induced hardship. Then I used to bring condoms to the compound and I'll call him to come get some like guys do, but nigga will be behaving as though I'm introducing him to some sort of sin. So, I stopped and used my weapons alone.

Years later, he's burdened his life with two kids in a bedroom flat. His wife was doing nothing while he was a Bolter. Long story short, they had to relocate to the village because of hardship—they couldn't afford the rent again. But what brought the hardship? Unplanned marriage and pregnancy! Once women enter marriage, they want to have a baby. They hardly care whether you use condom or you don't, afterall, everyone enjoys skin-to-skin. So, you got a child when you were not doing anything serious and as if that wasn't enough, you impregnated the woman again while she was breastfeeding the baby and that forced her to wean the child at hand.

The man rejected contraception because he thought married men don't need it and the woman wasn't responsible enough to insist on protection or no sex. So, it's a whole lot of issues that require reorientation of our people. They won't just listen to you and when the chips are down, they want to push some of their responsibilities to you else they see you as not wanting to help them. Meanwhile, both of you hard same opportunities and even from similar backgrounds but you were able to delay some gratifications to fix yours.

Sometimes, they may even feel you are doing fraud without knowing that there's nothing that can bring a man down so quick like him rushing into marriage and beginning to make babies he can't raise. That thing is one way ticket to poverty and when their eyes become clear, they regret everything. Then the children have probably become street children and no longer respect them, because the children now see them as useless or near-useless parents.

Again, where's the glory? Where's the joy?

Twale! You have finished work. It has been a long time since I have seen anyone write so comprehensively about early reproduction without considering the state of the economy and non-adherence to contraceptives.

Well done! The major difference between how you explained it and how I would have explained is the choice of words. You are a calmer version of myself on a topic like this.

Your neigbour did himself very bad, ditto the woman. My crush in secondary school gisted me how she declined the advances of a man based in Canada because he mentioned she would have four kids as part of their union. If I marry someone like that, I might forgo vasectomy because I know what she can do.

The bold are pertinent aspects to note.

Thanks again.