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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by CollectMoney: 6:35pm On Jan 10
Nice2023:
This year alone...I have personally purchased about 2 different plots of land in my village.


I have stopped investing in Abuja and as a result,I sold three plots of my land at airport road last year alone.

No time for nonsense.

You sold your land in Abuja or Suleja?
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by BabaRamota1980: 6:44pm On Jan 10
The problem you have in Iboland is your top elites. They do not believe in development of Iboland. I will give examples here, take note.

Just before he died we learnt that Governor Akeredolu has family house in Ibadan. As wealthy as he is, Saraki does not have family house in Lagos. Bola Ige, before his death, did not have family house in Lagos. Former Governor Ambode's family house is in Epe. Former Emir Sanusi did not have family house in Lagos. After his deposition he was guest of Governor El Rufai at Kaduna guest house in Ikoyi. I can give you list of over twenty Yoruba governors, present and past who do not have family house in Lagos, and instead have built estates in their own states or neighbouring state. As big Obasanjo is, he does not have family house in Lagos. Same goes for Hausa/Fulani. Show me Shagari family house in Lagos. Abacha built family house in Kano. Buhari in Daura. Former Presidential candidate in 1999, Chief Falae, very wealthy man...his house is in Ondo.

But when it comes to Ibo, every single elite and wealthy Ibo, past and present governors, has family house in Lagos. If your leaders do not believe in your homeland how will it develop. Remember, they are same people that collect monthly security funds and faac money from federal government.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Ofodirinwa: 6:45pm On Jan 10
BabaRamota1980:
The problem you have in Iboland is your top elites. They do not believe in development of Iboland. I will give examples here, take note.

Just before he died we learnt that Governor Akeredolu has family house in Ibadan. As wealthy as he is, Saraki does not have family house in Lagos. Bola Ige, before his death, did not have family house in Lagos. Former Governor Ambode's family house is in Epe. Former Emir Sanusi did not have family house in Lagos. After his deposition he was guest of Governor El Rufai at Kaduna guest house in Ikoyi. I can give you list of over twenty Yoruba governors, present and past who do not have family house in Lagos, and instead have built estates in their own states or neighbouring state. As big Obasanjo is, he does not have family house in Lagos.

But when it comes to Ibo, every single elite and wealthy Ibo, past and present governors, has family house in Lagos. If your leaders do not believe in your homeland how will it develop. Remember, they are same people that collect monthly security funds and faac money from federal government.

bro, the Ibo people you're talking about are objectively better than you. You're only posting this because the extent by which they're better than you is stressing you out. You're aware of this.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by BabaRamota1980: 6:52pm On Jan 10
Ofodirinwa:


bro, the Ibo people you're talking about are objectively better than you. You're only posting this because the extent by which they're better than you is stressing you out. You're aware of this.

Not at all. Im pointing to you that your leadership class has held you back, and they have refused to support and encourage your freedom from Lagos and other regions. If you break yourself free of dependence on Kano, on Abuja, on Lagos, you will break their power and class.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nigercity: 7:10pm On Jan 10
BabaRamota1980:


Not at all. Im pointing to you that your leadership class has held you back, and they have refused to support and encourage your freedom from Lagos and other regions. If you break yourself free of dependence on Kano, on Abuja, on Lagos, you will break their power and class.

Dependence how??
Not all Igbos are living outside igboland, as a matter of fact out of the 22 richest men in Nigeria, 11 of them are igbos and majority of them, are residing in igboland (Google this)

Our region is almost full
As it is the most dense populated region in Nigeria
That's why you see us everywhere
As a matter of fact we have built up and occupied all the forest from owerri down to onistha (use Google earth view map and verify its turning into one city)
We migrate not because our place is bad compare to other Nigeria places, but because if all igbos come back to south east
It won't enter all of us

So we aren't depending on anyone in this country, the igbos controling the markets in Lagos, Kano and Abuja
Has nothing to do with the Igbos down East, the igbos in east also import there own goods directly from outside Nigeria reshape it into finish product and sell it by themselves, nothing concern them concern Lagos
Infact almost every House hold stuff, clothes,shoe etc sold in Kano/Abuja are being bought from onistha and Aba
Go and verify
The igbos in South East don't depend on anyone at all

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nice2023(m): 7:13pm On Jan 10
CollectMoney:


You sold your land in Abuja or Suleja?


I sold three of my lands in the heart of Abuja.

I don't even know where suleja is in Niger state because of where I live.

Do u know aviation around the airport road,that is where I sold three plots of land and divested the proceeds to my home town.

Hope u are happy now.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nigercity: 7:18pm On Jan 10
Ofodirinwa:


What is the flaw in the city plan that you're specifically trying to address? Most of our cities are well planned, unless you see something I don't. I think city planning for VILLAGES is VERY important, because they are becoming cities and towns are not a single one of them have a plan. And you can easily become active in your village planning, easily form a plan and present to leadership, easily form a committee you can go to Local Government with, or work with community leaders to recruit planners.

But Owerri, Aba, Enugu, Umuahia, Onitsha, Asaba, Akwa, etc already have city plans and they're not bad or presenting any real issues.


none of this is to say you or others who are thinking of development plans for Igboland are doing a bad thing, but those of us who care about these things waste our entire lives talking, while those who don't care act and dominate on-ground politics. Igboland is designed in a way that anyone who wants to step up can step up and others will fully support if you're making sense.

I understand your point, all ideas and no implementation
Kept us this way

You are right that's the reason
I don't really rate social media

But nevertheless
Am not expecting our leaders to roll out master plan for our town Fastly turning into cities
But at least to build multiple lane inter city highways only, so we wouldn't have the tiny roads in future
They only thing differentiating Abuja from onistha metro is just the intercity highways surrounding Abuja round
Despite different towns in Abuja being far from each others
Unlike onistha metro where all towns is Fastly glueing up together

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Ofodirinwa: 7:23pm On Jan 10
Nigercity:


I understand your point, all ideas and no implementation
Kept us this way

You are right that's the reason
I don't really rate social media

But nevertheless
Am not expecting our leaders to realise matters plan of our town Fastly turning into cities
But at least to build multiple lane inter city highways only, so we wouldn't have the tiny roads in future
They only thing differentiating Abuja from onistha metro is just the intercity highways surrounding Abuja round
Despite different towns in Abuja being far from each others
Unlike onistha metro while all town is Fastly glueing up together

Bro you don't have leaders and you never will. What makes someone a 'leader' in Nigeria? A hat and a car convoy? What do you specifically need 'leaders' to do that you can't do. It is easy to raise funds in Igboland if you're serious and have a plan and proof of concept. There are community organizations. You can even approach these leader personally. One person convinced Arthur Eze to build a school. Sometimes these leaders grew old in a bad system and have adapted to it. They don't have ideas outside of how to survive that system and can't imagine the necessity of anything they themselves didn't grow up having. Some of them don't think toilets are necessary because they shit in the bush their whole childhood.

What 5 men pays for Ozo title in Onitsha can build an onitsha metro, so why not lobby 10 well to do men with a plan and proof of concept and see what can happen? Owerri Airport was 100% build by donations.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nigercity: 7:32pm On Jan 10
junketer:
i think it's about 10 to 15kms. I'm from okpuno

10 to 15km intracity dual carriageway is good,


Hope uzodinma built 30km dual carriageway from owerri to olru,
Almost same to oguta, Owerri to mbaise/umuahia
And owerri to okigwe
That's why roads in IMO state seems to be very wide,
Abia state to is promising, otti is planning construction of 18km dual carriageway from ABA to owerrinta (ABA outskirts) , Nndc is doing another 18km from azumin to owaza

Umahi also did his thing in ebonyi
Rochas started it

But we need more

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by CollectMoney: 7:38pm On Jan 10
Nice2023:



I sold three of my lands in the heart of Abuja.

I don't even know where suleja is in Niger state because of where I live.

Do u know aviation around the airport road,that is where I sold three plots of land and divested the proceeds to my home town.

Hope u are happy now.


You're a rich man. My maternal uncle from Ikeduru living in Suleja has 5plots of land that he also wants to sell and relocate East.

Igbos seem to have lost faith in the unity of Nigeria.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nice2023(m): 8:07pm On Jan 10
CollectMoney:


You're a rich man. My maternal uncle from Ikeduru living in Suleja has 5plots of land that he also wants to sell and relocate East.

Igbos seem to have lost faith in the unity of Nigeria.


A plot of land in my village is 4.5 to 5million and it keeps going up surprisingly.

I need to be part of my towns development.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:25pm On Jan 10
Nigercity:
Exactly
Am not a fan of divided Nigeria for now
Because Nigeria for now is our biggest market!
You need to see the amount of people from Kano, niger, Cameroon, Sierra Leone, Burkina Faso
Coming to trade in ABA, and to an extent onistha

Now the energy, attention and money received by ipob and other pro Biafra groups would have been used to build a whole lot of industries in Igbo land, And also improve our infrastructures
No doubt, Igbo city are expanding at Very massive rate, but the truth is aside onistha,Aba and Nnewi axis
Other cities in SE are just nothing to write home about in terms of industrialization, as beautiful as Enugu, Owerri, Abaikiik and Asaba
There's little industrial presence there, just fine buildings, estates and hotels
This is bad

All Igbos from different states, once contributed to build an airport! What suddenly changed while can't ipob, or ohanze or any Pan Igbo group seek donations from everyone including our people in diaspora (I will gladly contribute) to build at least 4 industries per year, and a fresh new 20 km per state every year

Enugu is silently industrialized

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nigercity: 8:30pm On Jan 10
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Enugu is silently industrialized

I know emene axis, and nsukka and 9th Mile axis
But it can't be compared to what is in ABA, and onistha

Enugu government should focus on making the city to join 9th mile! People shouldn't be able to know they difference between 9th mile and Enugu (it's like ogidi and onistha, or osisioma and ABA)

Also nsukka and obollo afor should be looked into, fun facts is
The city glueing up there is far bigger than enugu,
Nsukka itself is okay, for sure
But those rural areas joining nsukka from obollo afor needs to be checked

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Ofodirinwa: 11:10pm On Jan 10
BabaRamota1980:


Not at all. Im pointing to you that your leadership class has held you back, and they have refused to support and encourage your freedom from Lagos and other regions. If you break yourself free of dependence on Kano, on Abuja, on Lagos, you will break their power and class.

I didn't read this post, I'm only responding to tell you that I didn't read it and that you know they're better than you in every regard and it makes you hate yourself. We can all tell and we're all aware, including you yourself.
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Ogene001: 1:59am On Jan 11
BabaRamota1980:


Not at all. Im pointing to you that your leadership class has held you back, and they have refused to support and encourage your freedom from Lagos and other regions. If you break yourself free of dependence on Kano, on Abuja, on Lagos, you will break their power and class.
So Onitsha and Aba are filled with ghosts? Olodo
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Ofodirinwa: 2:20am On Jan 11
I never knew that Gabon, Cameroon, Eg. Guiena, and Congo all come to Aba to buy goods.
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 5:09am On Jan 11
Nigercity:



Abia state and Anambra state have the same problem! With Anambra being lucky in the last few years however on a more serious note
Anyone who knows ABA/Abia well
Will understand that Alex otti as of today is yet to do anything meaningful! Just media hype
Okezie too was terrible, but he did a good job compare to what the media says about him, if you're in ABA before okezie, you will understand that he really tried,
however he is bad and terrible compare to the standard we want!

Alex otti to, is yet to construct or start any meaningful project to decongest ABA except for the port Harcourt road he started, the Rest is just media hype
Most of they less than 1km roads he is building and snapping pictures with are less strategically
Some of them are just being recoated!
Meanwhile the 5 core local government of ABA Lacks interconnecting highway

Aside the 22 Kilometres dual carriageway okezie built from ogbor hill deep down to obingwa, the state government has never constructed any major road to linkup neighboring towns in ABA metropolis since 1999

Those 1km roads have inhabitants and visitors who suffer greatly.
They are very important as well.
Doesn't Enugu have good street roads? Street roads help ease traffic from major roads and decongest them eg the completed college road, umuoba road, umuodu road, emelogu.

He has awarded Ohanku and Obohia , to commence this Jan.
Cemetery road phase 1 is completed and it is strategic too.
Important roads under construction are Omuma , East by Ngwa road, Eberi Omuma road , etc and this is aside pH road you mentioned.

What of his strides in the health and medical education sectors ?

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 5:13am On Jan 11
Nigercity:


Exactly my point
Alex otti, should have used his good media reputations to raise funds from people in diaspora, Sam mabkwe did this! And that was how IMO airport and other things in old imo was built

Plenty Igbo man from all south east states are always willing to donate for anything pro Igbo including some Igbo Rich men from Delta state (i.e ned nwoko, elumelu e.t.c)

Nandi kanu at a time had the media power to do this instead, instead the choosed protest, violence and sit at home,
Something the should created a platform, used the money the spent in buying weapons
Use it in building 4 industries every year one in Enugu, one in owerri, asaba and abakiliki
Then at least fresh 20 km interstate dual carriageway road in Anambra and Abia
Per year
By now we should have gotten, 4×7 industries
Over the 7 years of his struggle

Alex said he already has sources of financing the loan for 2024 budget , that's what he might mean.
It's possible he has raised funds for the budget same way

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 5:16am On Jan 11
tishbite41:

Biafra was the only way to unite the Igbo nation.
At a time, Ben Nwabueze convinced MNK to drop Biafra in favor of restructuring and the young man agreed. And that's when the military struck with the Python Dance.
MNK has done his bit. We should do ours.
At least for the first time in decades, the Igbos now have a common sense of purpose and pride credit to IPOB and MNK.
And mind you, Biafra will be the last resort because the rest of Nigeria will be very jealous of a very prosperous Alaigbo and you can bookmark this.

No single pride came from IPOB.
It's been tears and sorrows since that group started .

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 5:18am On Jan 11
Abufo:


.Another clueless post! Is it not when you secure,your land that talk on what investment you want to put up on it can start? The lack of strategic depth in our thinking sometimes leaves me baffled..........you have not secured one international airport worthy of its name.....no strategic gas pipeline, no dry ports, no PowerPoint, no steel mills,no railway lines................Nigeria is a rough neighborhood...nice guys always lose. ....leave our ESN and IPOB bad boys alone........agafu nwere Job!

Did IPOB bad guys secure any of the things you mentioned?

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:31am On Jan 11
Nigercity:


I know emene axis, and nsukka and 9th Mile axis
But it can't be compared to what is in ABA, and onistha

Enugu government should focus on making the city to join 9th mile! People shouldn't be able to know they difference between 9th mile and Enugu (it's like ogidi and onistha, or osisioma and ABA)

Also nsukka and obollo afor should be looked into, fun facts is
The city glueing up there is far bigger than enugu,
Nsukka itself is okay, for sure
But those rural areas joining nsukka from obollo afor needs to be checked

That's because you only pass the express for 9th mile.
Well, I would rather a delay for a well thought out development than random jungle urbanisation.
Emene and 9th mile host large powerful industries o, forget.

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Ogene001: 11:38am On Jan 11
Nigercity:


I know emene axis, and nsukka and 9th Mile axis
But it can't be compared to what is in ABA, and onistha

Enugu government should focus on making the city to join 9th mile! People shouldn't be able to know they difference between 9th mile and Enugu (it's like ogidi and onistha, or osisioma and ABA)

Also nsukka and obollo afor should be looked into, fun facts is
The city glueing up there is far bigger than enugu,
Nsukka itself is okay, for sure
But those rural areas joining nsukka from obollo afor needs to be checked
The rugged Udi hills makes it difficult for Enugu to join 9th Mile that's why all Enugu expansion is towards Nike. As for Nsukka area, apart from Nsukka main town, the rest are very reluctant towards selling lands. That's a major obstacle in that axis otherwise the emerging urban area is far larger than Enugu as you said

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nigercity: 12:16pm On Jan 11
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Those 1km roads have inhabitants and visitors who suffer greatly.
They are very important as well.
Doesn't Enugu have good street roads? Street roads help ease traffic from major roads and decongest them eg the completed college road, umuoba road, umuodu road, emelogu.

He has awarded Ohanku and Obohia , to commence this Jan.
Cemetery road phase 1 is completed and it is strategic too.
Important roads under construction are Omuma , East by Ngwa road, Eberi Omuma road , etc and this is aside pH road you mentioned.

What of his strides in the health and medical education sectors ?
You are right, but let's get things right
They commissioning of cemetery phase I
Is why I called him a media governor, that road was to SMALL to be commissioned with canopy and funfares, same goes to emelugo, east by ngwa road
E.t.c
Come on we shouldn't be lowering the standard, because the previous one was bad.

obioha road and ohanku road are very strategical in ABA
As a matter of fact, obioha road is the longest road in ABA
So I commend alex otti for promising to look into it!
But there again
If one of this two roads is not expanded, then am sorry he is making a mistake

In terms of health he is trying,
But we need more in terms of roads
Why should someone always use ABA owerri road when traveling from ogbor hill to osisioma?
We need like 4 fresh dual carriageway that can connect from ogbor hill to osisioma!

Again why should some one always have to use ukagebu, azuka str or omoba road just to connect other parts of ogbor hill from new umuahia road?

Don't you think that we need at least 2 or 3 fresh dual carriageway roads that can join new umuahia road, from ikot ekpene roads,
Deep down in obingwa communities

And reduce pressure on those tiny azuka/ukeagbu str roads

Bro if you see how what rochas did in owerri, In terms of city expansion
Constructing new new intra city road, open up new areas
you will realize alot need to be done in Abia and Anambra
El rufia did the same thing in Abuja

It's some how that someone going from okpu umuobu to osisioma or umuika, where still have to use the over stressed
ABA owerri road
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by KGBKremlin: 12:41pm On Jan 11
Mikeman123:
Sequel to the preaching and adherence of
'Aku ruo ulo' message,we have seen an upsurge in the development of cities, towns and villages in Igbo land.
The rate at which mansions, hotels,estates , public infrastructures are springing up ( especially in the last decade) proves that Igbos are united in terms of development of their homeland.
However, a cursory look at the human and natural resources of Igbo land shows that these resources are not being optimally utilized.
Beyond the commercial and industrial cities of Onitsha,Aba and Nnewi, other parts of Igbo land need large scale industries . This will surely engender employment, revenue and overall development of the area.
What then can be done to enhance industrialization of Igbo land?
I suggest a synergy between governors in the region in the areas of power,rail transport and education.
What is your take?

Erosion alone will cause earthquake
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by BabaRamota1980: 6:45pm On Jan 11
Ogene001:

So Onitsha and Aba are filled with ghosts? Olodo

Yes, true. Zombies full Onitsha and Aba. Dead people. grin
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Difrent: 7:24pm On Jan 11
Wow
Wow
Wow

What a beautiful educating and enlightening thread.

Now that Seun has decided to concentrate on nairaland the quality discussion and healthy debates are coming Back

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Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Nigercity: 12:34pm On Jan 12
Difrent:
Wow
Wow
Wow

What a beautiful educating and enlightening thread.

Now that Seun has decided to concentrate on nairaland the quality discussion and healthy debates are coming Back


I just checked the thread now
Some bitter souls are here😂🤣 grin grin

But in regardless we move
Re: Industrialization Of Igbo Land by Mikeman123(m): 4:14pm On Jan 13
I love the fact that great minds are on this thread.
There are so many intelligent submissions so far.
Great advancements come through ideas.
The industrialization of Alaigbo will have ripple effect on other aspects of our economy.
Our homeland needs new industrial hubs that will be dotted with both indigenous and foreign companies.
South East Asia did it.
Catalonia, Spain did it.
Please, let's keep the suggestions coming.
Hopefully, our policy makers, captains of industries,diasporans and many who have embraced the ' think home' philosophy will
chart a course through our illumination

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