To me it's all pretence when people talk about a two states solution as the remedy for the crisis in the middle east.
In reality, it would never work.
The Arabs would never agree to any settlement put forth by Israel.
Again, there is no guarantee of peace if there is a two states solution.
When Israel gave them Gaza, it did not improve anything. Giving them more land and more autonomy would only make them stronger.
Furthermore, the state of Israel owes the Palestinians nothing.
Just because the Palestinians want the land does not mean it should be given to them.

Hamas terrorists organization will never agree with two states solution. Even Israel does not really meant it. They will always try to gain the control of West Bank and East Jerusalem from Palestine.

I see Gaza being annihilated in the next20 years by Israel.

The current kids hold grudge against Israel and would want to avenge which will lead to total crack down on Gaza.

Currently, Israel making a wound that the Palestinians won't forget for the next fifty years.

parkervero:
I see Gaza being annihilated in the next20 years by Israel.

The current kids hold grudge against Israel and would want to avenge which will lead to total crack down on Gaza.

Currently, Israel making a wound that the Palestinians won't forget for the next fifty years.

It doesn't matter. The Palestinians are not the only group that felt hurt or cheated but it's no excuse to be terrorist in 50 years

The Op probably knows better than the UN. No wahala

sunboy:
The Op probably knows better than the UN. No wahala

Yes he does. He is the top Nigerian envoy to the UN on stupidity.

Firstcitizen:


Yes he does. He is the top Nigerian envoy to the UN on stupidity.

I couldn’t agree more

sunboy:
The Op probably knows better than the UN. No wahala

Your believe that a world body is beyond mistake and that mo one should oppose their rulings shows us where you are Coming from.

tctrills:

Your believe that a world body is beyond mistake and that mo one should oppose their rulings shows us where you are Coming from.

The whole world agreed on the UN resolution.

Even the US agreed to it which made Bill Clinton invite the former Israeli PM and leader of the then PLO to an accord to reaffirm the UN resolution.

Guess what happened? The Israeli PM was assasinated shortly after he returned to Israel and tagged a betrayal by the right wing Jewish community. Which rose Bibi to the PM till date.

Only people who rejected the accord are Bibi and the right wing movement they call them.

Some of the first thing Obama did as a president was to invite Bibi again to reaffirm same UN resolution of two state on the land, Bibi publicly ridiculed Obama in front of the press lol

Reason why Bibi and Obama’s administration didn’t gel at all.

Again, the whole world agreed on the UN resolution.

Get your facts right, it is public knowledge sir ✌🏾

sunboy:


The whole world agreed on the UN resolution.

Even the US agreed to it which made Bill Clinton invite the former Israeli PM and leader of the then PLO to an accord to reaffirm the UN resolution.

Guess what happened? The Israeli PM was assasinated shortly after he returned to Israel and tagged a betrayal by the right wing Jewish community. Which rose Bibi to the PM till date.

Only people who rejected the accord are Bibi and the right wing movement they call them.

Some of the first thing Obama did as a president was to invite Bibi again to reaffirm same UN resolution of two state on the land, Bibi publicly ridiculed Obama in front of the press lol

Reason why Bibi and Obama’s administration didn’t gel at all.

Again, the whole world agreed on the UN resolution.

Get your facts right, it is public knowledge sir ✌🏾

Few things here, the whole world does not agree with the UN resolution.
The idea that the whole world agrees with anything is odd and misleading.
Secondly, the idea that other views and arguments are not entertained is not a wise position to take in our modern world.

Finally, you openly lied. The US voted against the resolution. So saying that the US agreed is false.
Please read more about the resolutions against Israel.
Now you also got it wrong on Bill Clinton's peace deal. This was the 2000 Camp David Summit. It was the Palestinian (Yasser Arafat) who walked away from the peace deal.

Please read to get your facts right. Here is a link to educate you more on the issue.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit

We really need to educate ourselves on the issues here.

tctrills:


Few things here, the whole world does not agree with the UN resolution.
The idea that the whole world agrees with anything is odd and misleading.
Secondly, the idea that other views and arguments are not entertained is not a wise position to take in our modern world.

Finally, you openly lied. The US voted against the resolution. So saying that the US agreed if false.
Please read more about the resolutions against Israel.

It is DUMB to call me a liar when it is a public knowledge that you can simply google.

1. Image from the Oslo accord photo op for the press. Just like I mentioned in my last post by Clinton administration between former Israeli PM and PLO leader. Bibi was at the event as part of the cabinet then.

2. 2nd screenshot is a whole article by pbs about the Obama administration and Bibi’s different views on the 2 state UN resolution.

In your words, US was against it… yet two US presidents attempt to make peace based on the same UN resolution Oversabi dey worry you.

Again, it is DUMB to call me a liar for a publicly available information. You’re not worth my time. ✌🏾

sunboy:


It is DUMB to call me a liar when it is a public knowledge that you can simply google.

1. Image from the Oslo accord photo op for the press. Just like I mentioned in my last post by Clinton administration between former Israeli PM and PLO leader. Bibi was at the event as part of the cabinet then.

2. 2nd screenshot is a whole article by pbs about the Obama administration and Bibi’s different views on the 2 state UN resolution.

In your words, US was against it… yet two US presidents attempt to make peace based on the same UN resolution Oversabi dey worry you.

Again, it is DUMB to call me a liar for a publicly available information. You’re not worth my time. ✌🏾

1. You lied about the Camp David Summit. It was the Palestinians that rejected peace.
Again no one denied the Oslo accords but you fail to understand that it was your Palestinians who rejected peace there again. Can you please Google that? No need to google it, here is a link, just read and learn
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Accords


2. Bibi was open to a 2 state solution even under Trump. Again your Palestinians rejected it. Here is a link. I don't send you images, I send you links to entire articles because I am transparent.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan#:~:text=if%20re%2Delected.-,Key%20concepts%20and%20final%20status%20issues,both%20parties%20to%20the%20conflict[/url].
Every leader of Israel has been open to a 2 state solution up until oct 7th last year.
And every Palestine leader has rejected the proposal.

3. Every US president and every Israeli leader have attempted to make peace but no US president has ever voted against Israel in a UN resolution. Please get your facts right.

The US has always been a peacemaker in this crisis but that doesn't mean that the US has ever supported a resolution against Israel. Stop mixing up things bro.

sunboy:


The whole world agreed on the UN resolution.

Even the US agreed to it which made Bill Clinton invite the former Israeli PM and leader of the then PLO to an accord to reaffirm the UN resolution.

Guess what happened? The Israeli PM was assasinated shortly after he returned to Israel and tagged a betrayal by the right wing Jewish community. Which rose Bibi to the PM till date.

Only people who rejected the accord are Bibi and the right wing movement they call them.

Some of the first thing Obama did as a president was to invite Bibi again to reaffirm same UN resolution of two state on the land, Bibi publicly ridiculed Obama in front of the press lol

Reason why Bibi and Obama’s administration didn’t gel at all.

Again, the whole world agreed on the UN resolution.

Get your facts right, it is public knowledge sir ✌🏾

NO, Yasser Arafat was the one that didn't agree to the terms of the agreement even after Isreal has given up so much land during the clition administration

For peace to reign, Accepting a two state solution was on the table and which the Isreali government agreed to then but Arafat didn't accept it.

Now,right wingers are in government in Isreal.Those who don't give a damm about the Palestinians. Be you terrorist or civilian. Those ones do not even support a two state solution to the best of my knowledge.

So you see what the Palestinians themselves have caused?

You see?

happney65:


NO, Yasser Arafat was the one that didn't agree to the terms of the agreement even after Isreal has given up so much land during the clition administration

For peace to reign, Accepting a two state solution was on the table and which the Isreali government agreed to then but Arafat didn't accept it.

Now,right wingers are in government in Isreal.Those who don't give a damm about the Palestinians. Be you terrorist or civilian. Those ones do not even support a two state solution to the best of my knowledge.

So you see what the Palestinians themselves have caused?

You see?

I think sunboy and other Hamas fanboys are reading a different history book.
Israel did not refuse the 2 state solution, it was the Palestinians.
The last proposal was put forward by Donald Trump in January 2020 but the Palestinians again refused it.

sunboy:


It is DUMB to call me a liar when it is a public knowledge that you can simply google.

1. Image from the Oslo accord photo op for the press. Just like I mentioned in my last post by Clinton administration between former Israeli PM and PLO leader. Bibi was at the event as part of the cabinet then.

2. 2nd screenshot is a whole article by pbs about the Obama administration and Bibi’s different views on the 2 state UN resolution.

In your words, US was against it… yet two US presidents attempt to make peace based on the same UN resolution Oversabi dey worry you.

Again, it is DUMB to call me a liar for a publicly available information. You’re not worth my time. ✌🏾

Please read my earlier post where I addressed your concerns.
But as I said you are being dishonest in suggesting that the US supported the resolutions against Israel.
How can the UD support the resolutions and end up voting against them? Does that even make sense?
Al Jazeera is very anti Israel so I am sure you believe everything they say.
Below is a link to Al Jazeera news talking about the US position in the anti Israel resolutions.
Please read then we can discuss it.
You would learn that even under Bill Clinton, the US vetoed resolutions against Israel.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/10/26/how-the-us-has-used-its-veto-power-at-the-un-in-support-of-israel

tctrills:
To me it's all pretence when people talk about a two states solution as the remedy for the crisis in the middle east.
In reality, it would never work.
The Arabs would never agree to any settlement put forth by Israel.
Again, there is no guarantee of peace if there is a two states solution.
When Israel gave them Gaza, it did not improve anything. Giving them more land and more autonomy would only make them stronger.
Furthermore, the state of Israel owes the Palestinians nothing.
Just because the Palestinians want the land does not mean it should be given to them.

You be illiterate

Deltancapo:


You be illiterate

Typical Hamas gang. Always coming online with violence like their terror masters.

tctrills:

I think sunboy and other Hamas fanboys are reading a different history book.
Israel did not refuse the 2 state solution, it was the Palestinians.
The last proposal was put forward by Donald Trump in January 2020 but the Palestinians again refused it.

Your childish assumptions on every post is beyond me now.

My loyalty is to the US of A for the record and how my tax payers money is spent.

I don’t care for Hamas nor do I care for Israel. Let that sink in. I only care for a peaceful fair and mutually beneficial resolution.

Isreal will also need to make peace with its neighbors without the US getting involved in every situation. The little progress made with a few neighbors are already getting strained. Anthony Blinken is again traveling around to fix that strain on their behalf.

Trump addressing the the issue?l 😂😂😂 that’s the height of this ridiculousness 😂😂

The same deal that was spearheaded by Jarred Kushner? A known Jew and Israeli lobbyist 😂😂😂

Trump solution by reversing all Obamas efforts and moving embassy

I’m done with you for mentioning the Trump part. I just needed to clear the fanboy crap that you wrote here.

✌🏾

sunboy:


Your childish assumptions on every post is beyond me now.

My loyalty is to the US of A for the record and how my tax payers money is spent.

I don’t care for Hamas nor do I care for Israel. Let that sink in. I only care for a peaceful fair and mutually beneficial resolution.

Isreal will also need to make peace with its neighbors without the US getting involved in every situation. The little progress made with a few neighbors are already getting strained. Anthony Blinken is again traveling around to fix that strain on their behave.

Trump addressing the the issue?l 😂😂😂 that’s the height of this ridiculousness 😂😂

The same deal that was spearheaded by Jarred Kushner? A known Jew and Israeli lobbyist 😂😂😂

Trump solution by reversing all Obamas efforts and moving embassy

I’m done with you for mentioning the Trump part. I just needed to clear the fanboy crap that you wrote here.

✌🏾

You spent have of the time talking about yourself and the remaining time criticizing Trump. You forget that Under him, the Middle East was much more peaceful so give credit when due.
Trump brought peace between Israel and more Arab states than all other US presidents put together (Abraham Accords).
I can understand you hate Trump but the results are clear for all to see. I deal with facts, not emotions.

True, Trump moved the embassy but can you honestly list Obama's achievements in bringing peace, the ones you say Trump reversed?
Again, is it not stupid to you that Israel is the only independent state that other nations believe they can dictate where it chooses for its Capital?
And yes, Jarred Kushner is a Jew but who told you that Jews are not tired of your suicide-bombing friends and are seeking peace? The Jews have agreed to a 2 state solution on at least 3 occasions now. All they want is peace
But that's not even the issue here. My point was that Trump like many other US presidents offered a 2 state solution which your Palestinian bros rejected.
Let's pretend Trump is the devil, but would you say Clinton and every other past president were equally the devil? Think bro, think.

tctrills:

You spent have of the time talking about yourself and the remaining time criticizing Trump. You forget that Under him, the Middle East was much more peaceful so give credit when due.
Trump brought peace between Israel and more Arab states than all other US presidents put together (Abraham Accords).
I can understand you hate Trump but the results are clear for all to see. I deal with facts, not emotions.

True, Trump moved the embassy but can you honestly list Obama's achievements in bringing peace, the ones you say Trump reversed?
Again, is it not stupid to you that Israel is the only independent state that other nations believe they can dictate where it chooses for its Capital?
And yes, Jarred Kushner is a Jew but who told you that Jews are not tired of your suicide-bombing friends and are seeking peace? The Jews have agreed to a 2 state solution on at least 3 occasions now. All they want is peace
But that's not even the issue here. My point was that Trump like many other US presidents offered a 2 state solution which your Palestinian bros rejected.
Let's pretend Trump is the devil, but would you say Clinton and every other past president were equally the devil? Think bro, think.

Lmao 😂

sunboy:



Lmao 😂

I see it's beginning to get funny to you. The people you are fighting for have continued to reject every available channel for peace. The US has really done a great job as a peacemaker but it's always the wicked Palestinians that reject peace.

The Nation of Israel on the other hand has done so much to prevent the outbreak of war but still you people no dey gree for anybody.

Let's look at some stats, please.

In almost 80 years of war, only 100k Palestinians have been killed. Let's compare this to other wars in the Middle East and Africa.

The war in Yemen: According to the UN, over 150,000 people have been killed in Yemen, as well as estimates of more than 227,000 dead as a result of an ongoing famine and lack of healthcare facilities due to the war in just 10 years.

The war in Syria: in just 13 years, 230,000 deaths

The Lebanese Civil War: 150,000 fatalities in 15 years.

The Nigerian civil war is 3 million in 3 years.

Israel has been the most cautious and responsible military in recent human history and the facts prove it.

Please, teach these things to others in the Hamas camp. I guess they would listen to you as one of there's more they would listen to me.

Amalekite dog

tctrills:
To me it's all pretence when people talk about a two states solution as the remedy for the crisis in the middle east.
In reality, it would never work.
The Arabs would never agree to any settlement put forth by Israel.
Again, there is no guarantee of peace if there is a two states solution.
When Israel gave them Gaza, it did not improve anything. Giving them more land and more autonomy would only make them stronger.
Furthermore, the state of Israel owes the Palestinians nothing.
Just because the Palestinians want the land does not mean it should be given to them.

A state of a permanent war is also nonsense. People should not keep killing each other either.

MrPresident1:
Amalekite dog

Don't just come online and say things you would be ashamed to say in person.

panafrican:
A state of a permanent war is also nonsense. People should not keep killing each other for ever.

True, there is a time to accept defeat am move on.
The people of Palestine would have been much more prosperous, they would have been able to build a flourishing economy but they keep choosing to invest in war and terrorism.
In 1948, they rejected a 2 state solution and ever since, they have continued to reject every deal put on the table.

God punish you amalekite dog. bloody satanic liar

tctrills:

Don't just come online and say things you would be ashamed to say in person.

The truth will come out one day who killed all the peace makers from Anwar Sadat to Yitzak Rabin. The hypnosis is wearing off.

Amalek can only thrive in blood and bloodshed

bloody godforsaken amalekite dog

tctrills:

True, there is a time to accept defeat am move on.
The people of Palestine would have been much more prosperous, they would have been able to build a flourishing economy but they keep choosing to invest in war and terrorism.
In 1948, they rejected a 2 state solution and ever since, they have continued to reject every deal put on the table.

MrPresident1:
The truth will come out one day who killed all the peace makers from Anwar Sadat to Yitzak Rabin. The hypnosis is wearing off.

Amalek can only thrive in blood and bloodshed

bloody godforsaken amalekite dog

Oga, who is Amalek?

MrPresident1:
God punish you amalekite dog. bloody satanic liar

Ok you are now telling God who to punish right?
You serve a God who needs you to direct him on who to punish. Good for you and your god.

Yes I am asking God to punish you. Criminal liar

tctrills:

Ok you are now telling God who to punish right?
You serve a God who needs you to direct him on who to punish. Good for you and your god.

MrPresident1:
Yes I am asking God to punish you. Criminal liar

Good, keep teaching your god who to punish. Let's hope he gets wise someday so you don't always have to be the one to direct him or her.

I am heaping coals of fire on your head

tctrills:

Good, keep teaching your god who to punish. Let's hope he gets wise someday so you don't always have to be the one to direct him or her.