₦airaland Forum

TimeManager:
What business do we have with Aburi?, is Aburi a place in Nigeria?. Anything that's not agreed upon on Nigerian soil is total rubbish. Aburi was between two military men, 1999 constitution is also a military document. 1960 constitution is the people's document, unfortunately, some people carried out a coup, gave way to mllitary regime in Nigeria and threw away the people's constitution. Same people who should be asking Nigerians for forgiveness are still talking about a toilet paper called Aburi.

-kiss the truth!

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TimeManager:
What business do we have with Aburi?, is Aburi a place in Nigeria?. Anything that's not agreed upon on Nigerian soil is total rubbish. Aburi was between two military men, 1999 constitution is also a military document. 1960 constitution is the people's document, unfortunately, some people carried out a coup, gave way to mllitary regime in Nigeria and threw away the people's constitution. Same people who should be asking Nigerians for forgiveness are still talking about a toilet paper called Aburi.

-kiss the truth!

Why not just shut up there. The same people with born to rule mentality did a counter coup and implemented a quasi federal structure with decree 8 that has morphed into 1999 constitution. Kiss the truth bro.

DomPerignon:
In a follow-up to the Aburi accord, Gowon promolgated Decree 8 which was meant not only to abrogate Ironsi's dissatrous Unity Decree #34 but also to strengthen the regional autonomy by providing for regional armies.

Aburi accord agreed to the unbundling of decree 34.

But when discussions were being held in Lagos after Aburi to unbundle decree 34, Ojukwu refused to attend citing "safety reasons".

Ojukwu will get his briefings from Ejoor after flying from Enugu to Benin.

When hinted on decree 8, Ojukwu said it won't stand .

The next few days , Gowon announced decree 8.

Ojukwu said this was not in agreement with the accord reached at Aburi despite decree 8 considering all the agreements reached and even further to strengthen regions.

The regional army clause was what Ojukwu was against alongside provisions to see for the carving out of COR region from the old eastern region - a demand that had been long sought by the oppressed minorities in the old eastern region.

The accord arrived at in Aburi, Ghana has the following :

1. Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.

2. Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.

3. The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.

As you can see, Aburi called for an end to decree 34.

Now let's look at Decree 8

appointment of judges all over the Federation ahs been abolished. Each Military Governor now controls appointment of judges of the High Court of his Region. But the appointment of the judges of both the Supreme Court of Nigeria and the High Court of Lagos is made the sole responsibility of the Supreme Military Council.

7. All appointments to posts in the superscale group 6 and above in the Public Service of the Federation and appointments to posts of Deputy Commissioner of Police and above in the Nigeria Police Force are now to be made by the Supreme Military Council. The functions formerly discharged under sections 110 and 146 of the Constitution of the Federation by the Federal Public Service Commission and the Police Service Commission respectively are now to that extent limited. 8. Appointments to the offices of Ambassador, High Commissioner and other principal representatives of the Republic in countries other than Nigeria are now, under the Decree, to be made by the Supreme Military Council.


From the above you can see that decree 8 simply codified what was agreed upon at Aburi.

What isn't explicitly mentioned in decree 8 was the Supreme Military Council divesting military authority to regional heads to which only Ojukwu disagreed with.

Now , why would Ojukwu disagree with every region having its own standing army outside the federal army ?

Because Ojukwu and his Enugu Marxists saw this as a threat to their future power grab.

A few days after decree 8, Ojukwu invaded the Midwest and installed a puppet military head of state and from there began a putsch to Lagos.

Midwest was easily invaded and occupied because despite Ejoor's demand to Gowon for arms, Gowon was hesitant to arm the Midwest because of the overwhelmingly Igboid officers and men in the Midwest army who were all sympathetic to Enugu and the Marxist coup of Jan 15, 1966.

Gowon was then forced to create states to delegitimize Biafra territorial claims over the restive anti Ibo Niger Delta provinces.


Anyone refering to Aburi is being highly deceptive as it was Ojukwu that renegaded on Aburi by invading the Midwest and declaring Biafra with the Niger Delta regions.

Aburi was a time wasting venture meant to bid time for Ojukwu who was hell bent on seizing power from Gowon and maintaining the centrist Ironsi military dictatorship.

Do not fall for their lies.

I will end this by stating that since 1999, every attempts to chip away from the dissatrous Ironsi centrist 1999 constitution has been opposed by them.

They feared Tinubu's presidency because it is the only one that can truly kickstart a return to pre Ironsi centrist authority.

Are they not the biggest beneficiaries under the system as can be seen from federal allocations in comparison to contribution to the national purse ?

Do not let them decieve you.

Bros when will you people stop twisting facts. Gowon clearly reneged on Aburi decree 8 never in anyway strengthened Aburi it was a deceptive measure to limit Ojukwu if there is any event of the eastern region breaking away. Again you guys should stop chastising Ironsi because even rhe provision of the unitary decree did not split the regions, neither did it alter the revenue sharing formula. Decree 8 is what has been watered down in subsequent military regimes which has given rise to the 1999 constitution so how in God's name did decree 8 strengthen aburi accord?

DomPerignon:
In a follow-up to the Aburi accord, Gowon promolgated Decree 8 which was meant not only to abrogate Ironsi's dissatrous Unity Decree #34 but also to strengthen the regional autonomy by providing for regional armies.

Aburi accord agreed to the unbundling of decree 34.

But when discussions were being held in Lagos after Aburi to unbundle decree 34, Ojukwu refused to attend citing "safety reasons".

Ojukwu will get his briefings from Ejoor after flying from Enugu to Benin.

When hinted on decree 8, Ojukwu said it won't stand .

The next few days , Gowon announced decree 8.

Ojukwu said this was not in agreement with the accord reached at Aburi despite decree 8 considering all the agreements reached and even further to strengthen regions.

The regional army clause was what Ojukwu was against alongside provisions to see for the carving out of COR region from the old eastern region - a demand that had been long sought by the oppressed minorities in the old eastern region.

The accord arrived at in Aburi, Ghana has the following :

1. Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.

2. Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.

3. The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.

As you can see, Aburi called for an end to decree 34.

Now let's look at Decree 8

appointment of judges all over the Federation ahs been abolished. Each Military Governor now controls appointment of judges of the High Court of his Region. But the appointment of the judges of both the Supreme Court of Nigeria and the High Court of Lagos is made the sole responsibility of the Supreme Military Council.

7. All appointments to posts in the superscale group 6 and above in the Public Service of the Federation and appointments to posts of Deputy Commissioner of Police and above in the Nigeria Police Force are now to be made by the Supreme Military Council. The functions formerly discharged under sections 110 and 146 of the Constitution of the Federation by the Federal Public Service Commission and the Police Service Commission respectively are now to that extent limited. 8. Appointments to the offices of Ambassador, High Commissioner and other principal representatives of the Republic in countries other than Nigeria are now, under the Decree, to be made by the Supreme Military Council.


From the above you can see that decree 8 simply codified what was agreed upon at Aburi.

What isn't explicitly mentioned in decree 8 was the Supreme Military Council divesting military authority to regional heads to which only Ojukwu disagreed with.

Now , why would Ojukwu disagree with every region having its own standing army outside the federal army ?

Because Ojukwu and his Enugu Marxists saw this as a threat to their future power grab.

A few days after decree 8, Ojukwu invaded the Midwest and installed a puppet military head of state and from there began a putsch to Lagos.

Midwest was easily invaded and occupied because despite Ejoor's demand to Gowon for arms, Gowon was hesitant to arm the Midwest because of the overwhelmingly Igboid officers and men in the Midwest army who were all sympathetic to Enugu and the Marxist coup of Jan 15, 1966.

Gowon was then forced to create states to delegitimize Biafra territorial claims over the restive anti Ibo Niger Delta provinces.


Anyone refering to Aburi is being highly deceptive as it was Ojukwu that renegaded on Aburi by invading the Midwest and declaring Biafra with the Niger Delta regions.

Aburi was a time wasting venture meant to bid time for Ojukwu who was hell bent on seizing power from Gowon and maintaining the centrist Ironsi military dictatorship.

Do not fall for their lies.

I will end this by stating that since 1999, every attempts to chip away from the dissatrous Ironsi centrist 1999 constitution has been opposed by them.

They feared Tinubu's presidency because it is the only one that can truly kickstart a return to pre Ironsi centrist authority.

Are they not the biggest beneficiaries under the system as can be seen from federal allocations in comparison to contribution to the national purse ?

Do not let them decieve you.

So with Tinubu's presidency how has it returned to pre-ironsi. Now let me lecture you on pre-ironsi. Then old eastern region was the fastest growing region in the 60s. When the west had cocoa house and had TV stations the east centered on massive development campaigns. When the west had Ikeja estates the east had TransAmadi, Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi Industrial estates. When the west had only Ijora power station, the east had Afam Power Station(now Afam 1) and Oji River power station. The east was far ahead in education enrollment numbers, which made awolowo to introduce free education to combat the enrollment nunbers coming from the eastern region(read History of Education by Prof Babatunde Fafunwa). These lies have to stop abeg.

Raskimonojendor:
Aquiyi Ironsi abolished regions. With his foolish decree 34 also known as UNIFICATION decree. Ben Nwabueze helped him draft the decree. Ojukwu supported it.

That's the lie people like you have been telling Nigerians for over 50 years. Decree 34 was just about the civil service, nothing more. All 4 Region's existed under Ironsi with full resource control. The only thing the Region's didn't have under Ironsi was democracy, it was military rule

It was Gowon that came after Ironsi and abolished all 4 Region with Decree 14, and created 12 new states to replace them

Gowon then removed resource control with Decree 15

All is below in black and white, feel free to use Google to confirm

flokii:
They can as well review and update the constitution.. 1960 laws can't and won't work in 2024. The gap is too much and things have changed.

Let them call for a national conference or referendum or whatever and allow ethnic groups make input on changes they want effected in the constitution.

exactly what GEj did with the confab and you guys skinned him alive with that confab. trust me Nigeria can never work because of Nigerians and their illiterate attitude.

Throw away River Niger first.

gidgiddy:
That's the lie people like you have been telling Nigerians for over 50 years. Decree 34 was just about the civil service, nothing more. All 4 Region's existed under Ironsi with full resource control. The only thing the Region's didn't have under Ironsi was democracy, it was military rule

It was Gowon that came after Ironsi and abolished all 4 Region with Decree 14, and created 12 new states to replace them

Gowon then removed resource control with Decree 15

All is below in black and white, feel free to use Google to confirm

Dey decieve yourself.

Going by your own stupid interpretation of decree 34 that it only abolished regional civil service and made the federal civil service take their place, how then were the regions supposed to be autonomously administered without their own civil service structure ?

The respective regional civil services were abolished by decree 34 which saw to administration by the federal civil service. This means even taxation was carried out by the federal body and no longer regional authority.

You can continue to fool yourself day in , day out but we know what led to the coup of Jan 15 which was meant to prevent the federal house in granting a referendum for the creation of COR region and decree 34 was meant to abolish regions entirely so that the question of minorities seceding from your blighted old eastern region will never be an issue.

Have you guys repented from claiming SS as your territory ?

A day will come when all these Biafra rubbish will be put to rest with your final expulsion from Nigeria.

DomPerignon:
Dey decieve yourself.

Going by your own stupid interpretation of decree 34 that it only abolished regional civil service and made the federal civil service take their place, how then were the regions supposed to be autonomously administered without their own civil service structure ?

The respective regional civil services were abolished by decree 34 which saw to administration by the federal civil service. This means even taxation was carried out by the federal body and no longer regional authority.

You can continue to fool yourself day in , day out but we know what led to the coup of Jan 15 which was meant to prevent the federal house in granting a referendum for the creation of COR region and decree 34 was meant to abolish regions entirely so that the question of minorities seceding from your blighted old eastern region will never be an issue.

Have you guys repented from claiming SS as your territory ?

A day will come when all these Biafra rubbish will be put to rest with your final expulsion from Nigeria.

Rather than talking nonsense, pick up your phone and Google Decree 34. Every Region had its own Regional civil service, none was abolished, Decree 34 only standardised them into one cadre. At no time did Ironsi abolish any Region nor deny the Region's their resource control

This funny character wants people to believe he is so concerned about a civil service Decree, but is not at all concerned that a Northerner called Gowon abolished all 4 Region's all together, created 12 new states, and removed resource control

His big problem is civil service?

Jokers everywhere

I support it.

1960 Constitution is the best.

Everyone should go back to regional system.

Parachoko:
Even if Nigerians Embrace the 1960 Constitution, with Politicians like the Mediocre from Agulu, Nigeria won't still develop.

No b by system of Government abeg.

Look at how Nigerians are Hailing Asiwaju because of how he's ruling Perfectly.

SMILE

gidgiddy:
Rather than talking nonsense, pick up your phone and Google Decree 34. Every Region had its own Regional civil service, none was abolished, Decree 34 only standardised them into one cadre. At no time did Ironsi abolish any Region nor deny the Region's their resource control

This funny character wants people to believe he is so concerned about a civil service Decree, but is not at all concerned that a Northerner called Gowon abolished all 4 Region's all together, created 12 new states, and removed resource control

His big problem is civil service?

Jokers everywhere

Listen to your rubbish again.

So the Zikist inspired decree 34 was not an issue but only concerned replacing regional civil services with federal monopoly .

How come then was the abrogation of decree 34 a central issue in Aburi?

You can continue decieving yourselves with your foolish lies.

The coup of Jan 15 was and remains an Ibo coup to promote Ibo authority over the land.

Decree 34 was enacted to allow for Ibos to dominate every region from the centre .

Ojukwu and Azikiwe welcomed decree 34 when it was announced.

Ojukwu declared Biafra because Gowon seized power and truncated Ibo rule .


Till date , Ibos like Alexbells celebrate decree 34 and will fight tooth and nail to see the centrist system maintained.


Keep fooling yourselves

TimeManager:
Of course, at the time, we were not an independent country, we had to go discuss our independence and constitution through people's delegates across the country, not a clash of egos between two military men in nearby Ghana which had nothing to do with the interests of the people. For me, 1963 constitution remains the best.

-kiss the truth!

You should know the reason they did that in Ghana, the was tension so Ghana was a neutral ground for both militery leaders.

He's right. Return to regional system will be the best!

Totally agree with you!

Nwodosis:
Aburi Accord remains the permanent solution but it is good as we all chose to live on its denial.

DomPerignon:
Listen to your rubbish again.

So the Zikist inspired decree 34 was not an issue but only concerned replacing regional civil services with federal monopoly .

How come then was the abrogation of decree 34 a central issue in Aburi?

You can continue decieving yourselves with your foolish lies.

The coup of Jan 15 was and remains an Ibo coup to promote Ibo authority over the land.

Decree 34 was enacted to allow for Ibos to dominate every region from the centre .

Ojukwu and Azikiwe welcomed decree 34 when it was announced.

Ojukwu declared Biafra because Gowon seized power and truncated Ibo rule .


Till date , Ibos like Alexbells celebrate decree 34 and will fight tooth and nail to see the centrist system maintained.


Keep fooling yourselves

See?!
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DomPerignon:
In a follow-up to the Aburi accord, Gowon promolgated Decree 8 which was meant not only to abrogate Ironsi's dissatrous Unity Decree #34 but also to strengthen the regional autonomy by providing for regional armies.

Aburi accord agreed to the unbundling of decree 34.

But when discussions were being held in Lagos after Aburi to unbundle decree 34, Ojukwu refused to attend citing "safety reasons".

Ojukwu will get his briefings from Ejoor after flying from Enugu to Benin.

When hinted on decree 8, Ojukwu said it won't stand .

The next few days , Gowon announced decree 8.

Ojukwu said this was not in agreement with the accord reached at Aburi despite decree 8 considering all the agreements reached and even further to strengthen regions.

The regional army clause was what Ojukwu was against alongside provisions to see for the carving out of COR region from the old eastern region - a demand that had been long sought by the oppressed minorities in the old eastern region.

The accord arrived at in Aburi, Ghana has the following :

1. Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.

2. Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.

3. The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.

As you can see, Aburi called for an end to decree 34.

Now let's look at Decree 8

appointment of judges all over the Federation ahs been abolished. Each Military Governor now controls appointment of judges of the High Court of his Region. But the appointment of the judges of both the Supreme Court of Nigeria and the High Court of Lagos is made the sole responsibility of the Supreme Military Council.

7. All appointments to posts in the superscale group 6 and above in the Public Service of the Federation and appointments to posts of Deputy Commissioner of Police and above in the Nigeria Police Force are now to be made by the Supreme Military Council. The functions formerly discharged under sections 110 and 146 of the Constitution of the Federation by the Federal Public Service Commission and the Police Service Commission respectively are now to that extent limited. 8. Appointments to the offices of Ambassador, High Commissioner and other principal representatives of the Republic in countries other than Nigeria are now, under the Decree, to be made by the Supreme Military Council.


From the above you can see that decree 8 simply codified what was agreed upon at Aburi.

What isn't explicitly mentioned in decree 8 was the Supreme Military Council divesting military authority to regional heads to which only Ojukwu disagreed with.

Now , why would Ojukwu disagree with every region having its own standing army outside the federal army ?

Because Ojukwu and his Enugu Marxists saw this as a threat to their future power grab.

A few days after decree 8, Ojukwu invaded the Midwest and installed a puppet military head of state and from there began a putsch to Lagos.

Midwest was easily invaded and occupied because despite Ejoor's demand to Gowon for arms, Gowon was hesitant to arm the Midwest because of the overwhelmingly Igboid officers and men in the Midwest army who were all sympathetic to Enugu and the Marxist coup of Jan 15, 1966.

Gowon was then forced to create states to delegitimize Biafra territorial claims over the restive anti Ibo Niger Delta provinces.


Anyone refering to Aburi is being highly deceptive as it was Ojukwu that renegaded on Aburi by invading the Midwest and declaring Biafra with the Niger Delta regions.

Aburi was a time wasting venture meant to bid time for Ojukwu who was hell bent on seizing power from Gowon and maintaining the centrist Ironsi military dictatorship.

Do not fall for their lies.

I will end this by stating that since 1999, every attempts to chip away from the dissatrous Ironsi centrist 1999 constitution has been opposed by them.

They feared Tinubu's presidency because it is the only one that can truly kickstart a return to pre Ironsi centrist authority.

Are they not the biggest beneficiaries under the system as can be seen from federal allocations in comparison to contribution to the national purse ?

Do not let them decieve you.

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