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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by chiefolododo(m): 1:26pm On Jan 14
Baba Akande is an elder statesman...he was a great governor,though he made some mistakes...Tinubu ought to listen to someone like him ...but some cabals don't give Baba access to Tinubu

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by AJSfan: 1:26pm On Jan 14
Nwodosis:
Aburi Accord remains the permanent solution but it is good as we all chose to live on its denial.
Aburi Accord is a military accord, it's not democratic

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Obakoolex(m): 1:26pm On Jan 14
Its highly surprising how almost every body condemn the 1999 Constitution yet, nothing is been done about it.
I wish someone can defend or compare the the Constitution with what's been used before so the general public can know which is anti people
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by aspabay(m): 1:28pm On Jan 14
iwaeda:
APC scam. grin grin grin grin grin

Stop sounding like a broken record. This thread is not for unintelligents like you. Wait for thread on Tonto Dike

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by MichaelSokoto(m): 1:28pm On Jan 14
I would have naturally preferred dis grandpa to emilokan!
lipsrsealed

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Joefixy(m): 1:28pm On Jan 14
You need to see your doctor
Parachoko:
Even if Nigerians Embrace the 1960 Constitution, with Politicians like the Mediocre from Agulu, Nigeria won't still develop.

No b by system of Government abeg.

Look at how Nigerians are Hailing Asiwaju because of how he's ruling Perfectly.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Iceberg3: 1:30pm On Jan 14
DomPerignon:


In a follow-up to the Aburi accord, Gowon promolgated Decree 8 which was meant not only to abrogate Ironsi's dissatrous Unity Decree #34 but also to strengthen the regional autonomy by providing for regional armies.

Aburi accord agreed to the unbundling of decree 34.

But when discussions were being held in Lagos after Aburi to unbundle decree 34, Ojukwu refused to attend citing "safety reasons".

Ojukwu will get his briefings from Ejoor after flying from Enugu to Benin.

When hinted on decree 8, Ojukwu said it won't stand .

The next few days , Gowon announced decree 8.

Ojukwu said this was not in agreement with the accord reached at Aburi despite decree 8 considering all the agreements reached and even further to strengthen regions.

The regional army clause was what Ojukwu was against alongside provisions to see for the carving out of COR region from the old eastern region - a demand that had been long sought by the oppressed minorities in the old eastern region.

The accord arrived at in Aburi, Ghana has the following :

1. Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.

2. Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.

3. The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.

As you can see, Aburi called for an end to decree 34.

Now let's look at Decree 8

appointment of judges all over the Federation ahs been abolished. Each Military Governor now controls appointment of judges of the High Court of his Region. But the appointment of the judges of both the Supreme Court of Nigeria and the High Court of Lagos is made the sole responsibility of the Supreme Military Council.

7. All appointments to posts in the superscale group 6 and above in the Public Service of the Federation and appointments to posts of Deputy Commissioner of Police and above in the Nigeria Police Force are now to be made by the Supreme Military Council. The functions formerly discharged under sections 110 and 146 of the Constitution of the Federation by the Federal Public Service Commission and the Police Service Commission respectively are now to that extent limited. 8. Appointments to the offices of Ambassador, High Commissioner and other principal representatives of the Republic in countries other than Nigeria are now, under the Decree, to be made by the Supreme Military Council.


From the above you can see that decree 8 simply codified what was agreed upon at Aburi.

What isn't explicitly mentioned in decree 8 was the Supreme Military Council divesting military authority to regional heads to which only Ojukwu disagreed with.

Now , why would Ojukwu disagree with every region having its own standing army outside the federal army ?

Because Ojukwu and his Enugu Marxists saw this as a threat to their future power grab.

A few days after decree 8, Ojukwu invaded the Midwest and installed a puppet military head of state and from there began a putsch to Lagos.

Midwest was easily invaded and occupied because despite Ejoor's demand to Gowon for arms, Gowon was hesitant to arm the Midwest because of the overwhelmingly Igboid officers and men in the Midwest army who were all sympathetic to Enugu and the Marxist coup of Jan 15, 1966.

Gowon was then forced to create states to delegitimize Biafra territorial claims over the restive anti Ibo Niger Delta provinces.


Anyone refering to Aburi is being highly deceptive as it was Ojukwu that renegaded on Aburi by invading the Midwest and declaring Biafra with the Niger Delta regions.

Aburi was a time wasting venture meant to bid time for Ojukwu who was hell bent on seizing power from Gowon and maintaining the centrist Ironsi military dictatorship.

Do not fall for their lies.

I will end this by stating that since 1999, every attempts to chip away from the dissatrous Ironsi centrist 1999 constitution has been opposed by them.

They feared Tinubu's presidency because it is the only one that can truly kickstart a return to pre Ironsi centrist authority.

Are they not the biggest beneficiaries under the system as can be seen from federal allocations in comparison to contribution to the national purse ?

Do not let them decieve you.





Please nairalanders ,let's stick to the topic and ignore this diversion.
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by blancsn1: 1:30pm On Jan 14
Who and who made the Aburi accord
So Yoruba will allow a foolish Ojukwu n Yakubu both military to decide their fate or you are just trying to be senseless ?


Nwodosis:
Aburi Accord remains the permanent solution but it is good as we all chose to live on its denial.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by omenka1: 1:31pm On Jan 14
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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by blancsn1: 1:32pm On Jan 14
Where is the prove to this claim or we are just to believe it because you wrote it

DomPerignon:


In a follow-up to the Aburi accord, Gowon promolgated Decree 8 which was meant not only to abrogate Ironsi's dissatrous Unity Decree #34 but also to strengthen the regional autonomy by providing for regional armies.

Aburi accord agreed to the unbundling of decree 34.

But when discussions were being held in Lagos after Aburi to unbundle decree 34, Ojukwu refused to attend citing "safety reasons".

Ojukwu will get his briefings from Ejoor after flying from Enugu to Benin.

When hinted on decree 8, Ojukwu said it won't stand .

The next few days , Gowon announced decree 8.

Ojukwu said this was not in agreement with the accord reached at Aburi despite decree 8 considering all the agreements reached and even further to strengthen regions.

The regional army clause was what Ojukwu was against alongside provisions to see for the carving out of COR region from the old eastern region - a demand that had been long sought by the oppressed minorities in the old eastern region.

The accord arrived at in Aburi, Ghana has the following :

1. Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.

2. Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.

3. The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.

As you can see, Aburi called for an end to decree 34.

Now let's look at Decree 8

appointment of judges all over the Federation ahs been abolished. Each Military Governor now controls appointment of judges of the High Court of his Region. But the appointment of the judges of both the Supreme Court of Nigeria and the High Court of Lagos is made the sole responsibility of the Supreme Military Council.

7. All appointments to posts in the superscale group 6 and above in the Public Service of the Federation and appointments to posts of Deputy Commissioner of Police and above in the Nigeria Police Force are now to be made by the Supreme Military Council. The functions formerly discharged under sections 110 and 146 of the Constitution of the Federation by the Federal Public Service Commission and the Police Service Commission respectively are now to that extent limited. 8. Appointments to the offices of Ambassador, High Commissioner and other principal representatives of the Republic in countries other than Nigeria are now, under the Decree, to be made by the Supreme Military Council.


From the above you can see that decree 8 simply codified what was agreed upon at Aburi.

What isn't explicitly mentioned in decree 8 was the Supreme Military Council divesting military authority to regional heads to which only Ojukwu disagreed with.

Now , why would Ojukwu disagree with every region having its own standing army outside the federal army ?

Because Ojukwu and his Enugu Marxists saw this as a threat to their future power grab.

A few days after decree 8, Ojukwu invaded the Midwest and installed a puppet military head of state and from there began a putsch to Lagos.

Midwest was easily invaded and occupied because despite Ejoor's demand to Gowon for arms, Gowon was hesitant to arm the Midwest because of the overwhelmingly Igboid officers and men in the Midwest army who were all sympathetic to Enugu and the Marxist coup of Jan 15, 1966.

Gowon was then forced to create states to delegitimize Biafra territorial claims over the restive anti Ibo Niger Delta provinces.


Anyone refering to Aburi is being highly deceptive as it was Ojukwu that renegaded on Aburi by invading the Midwest and declaring Biafra with the Niger Delta regions.

Aburi was a time wasting venture meant to bid time for Ojukwu who was hell bent on seizing power from Gowon and maintaining the centrist Ironsi military dictatorship.

Do not fall for their lies.

I will end this by stating that since 1999, every attempts to chip away from the dissatrous Ironsi centrist 1999 constitution has been opposed by them.

They feared Tinubu's presidency because it is the only one that can truly kickstart a return to pre Ironsi centrist authority.

Are they not the biggest beneficiaries under the system as can be seen from federal allocations in comparison to contribution to the national purse ?

Do not let them decieve you.





Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by epainos: 1:33pm On Jan 14
I agree with Akande; however, the monster we need to first defeat is tribalism because it is the reason they will not want that 1960 constitution. Those people who don't want to embrace this suggestion will go back to their people and say that it is the Yoruba man who wants to use it for the benefit of themselves. As soon as those illiterate Hausa and Fulani hear it, they will not allow it. This is our problem. Remove tribalism and we will be fine. But can we do it? Nope. The best option is that Nigeria should split. Let us return to that 1960 era whereby each region controls its wealth. Let each region start paying its legislatures. See...they won't teach them to make the job non-lucrative anymore. Shikena.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 1:34pm On Jan 14
Parachoko:
Even if Nigerians Embrace the 1960 Constitution, with Politicians like the Mediocre from Agulu, Nigeria won't still develop.

No b by system of Government abeg.

Look at how Nigerians are Hailing Asiwaju because of how he's ruling Perfectly.
It is not perfect

But I can see some great moves been made

Remind me of Chess Grandmaster.
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Iceberg3: 1:34pm On Jan 14
gidgiddy:


Yes I'm sure they are hailing $1 to N1200, petrol at N700 a litre, N50,000 a bag of rice
My brother,the deceit and hypocrisy among certain people is just horrible.
These people will see black and call it white

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by LeeSmart: 1:35pm On Jan 14
If we go fit make new one abeg make we do, all this old ones no fit make us move forward oo
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by blancsn1: 1:35pm On Jan 14
De play
Who on planet Earth will disturb or even dare delay Akande from seeing Tinubu ?

Even Remi dare not.


chiefolododo:
Baba Akande is an elder statesman...he was a great governor,though he made some mistakes...Tinubu ought to listen to someone like him ...but some cabals don't give Baba access to Tinubu

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Niok: 1:37pm On Jan 14
Parachoko:
Even if Nigerians Embrace the 1960 Constitution, with Politicians like the Mediocre from Agulu, Nigeria won't still develop.

No b by system of Government abeg.

Look at how Nigerians are Hailing Asiwaju because of how he's ruling Perfectly.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by aswani(m): 1:39pm On Jan 14
DomPerignon:


Midwest was easily invaded and occupied because despite Ejoor's demand to Gowon for arms, Gowon was hesitant to arm the Midwest because of the overwhelmingly Igboid officers and men in the Midwest army who were all sympathetic to Enugu and the Marxist coup of Jan 15, 1966.


Thank you so much for your excellent post, we should all come to Nairaland to learn or disseminate useful information. You have played your part, hopefully others can.

To further your point, Gowon didn't sufficiently arm the midwest despite pleadings by Ejoor because he didn't want to give Ojukwu an excuse to start something because there was effectively a standing army ready for battle on his doorstep.

Of course Ikemba went ahead and invaded anyway and then completely lost the plot in proceeding towards Lagos.

Gowon treated Ojukwu with kid gloves, a quick, strong and effective clamp down would have stopped the war ever happening. I understand why he did it though, he expected Ojukwu to ignore the hawks in the Biafran cabinet spoiling for an unwinnable war.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by professore(m): 1:42pm On Jan 14
I learnt something new.
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Bluntemperor: 1:43pm On Jan 14
But was he not amongst the Politicians then,or was he not even a governor?
Why is it that when Politicians have enjoyed their times and rested they now start to tell other NIGERIANS- this is how to go about this!
What were they doing when they were there as leaders at that time?
This is Political deceitfulness that have no remedy!
If the National Assembly have A Constitution, they all swore to,can they be the one to desolved the same Constitution?
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by onuman: 1:44pm On Jan 14
Asking the National Assembly to regig the 1999 constitution will not yield anything different from the existing constitution.
The 1999 constitution had no referendum of Nigerians. It is a constitution drafted by SELECTED Nigerians and its contents DICTATED BY NORTHERN MILITARY DICTATORS to legitimise the fraudulent political structure and unitary government system they created for a multi ethnic and multi religious country.
The only way to get a workable constitution for Nigeria is through a SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE.
Sovereignty belongs to the masses, not to military dictators or a few legislators.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by OlujobaSamuel: 1:44pm On Jan 14
blancsn1:
De play
Who on planet Earth will disturb or even dare delay Akande from seeing Tinubu ?

Even Remi dare not.


You sef see am Me too kuku see and Waka pass.
If to sey baba still young ni, e for get official post sef
Their relationship is beyond politics

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by OlujobaSamuel: 1:47pm On Jan 14
Bluntemperor:
But was he not amongst the Politicians then,or was he not even a governor?
Why is it that when Politicians have enjoyed their times and rested they now start to tell other NIGERIANS- this is how to go about this!
What were they doing when they were there as leaders at that time?
This is Political deceitfulness that have no remedy!
If the National Assembly have A Constitution, they all swore to,can they be the one to desolved the same Constitution?
He was a governor but the only governor that lost 2nd term because he wasn't ready to back down on his beliefs, and he never bothered to come back after that lost
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Jozibrainz100: 1:47pm On Jan 14
They will only take to the advice if the 1960's constitutions favour them more.
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by madridguy(m): 1:56pm On Jan 14
People benefiting from the 1999 constitution will not wat it abolished.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by onuman: 1:59pm On Jan 14
olisaEze:
Having the best Constitution under a bad leader will not make a difference - Olisa Agbakoba (SAN). But a good Constitution can prevent crime bosses from rigging their way into govt coffers. If they like let them adopt the McPherson Constitution, just reduce the powers of the Executive drastically. They be strangling the nation with their unchecked greed! undecided


Having a bad constitution under a Messiah of a leader does not yield much positive results. We have seen how the bad constitution by military leaders led Nigeria to become the official poverty capital of the world.
The political structure of Nigeria was also fraudulently changed by northern military dictators using land mass or population figures to proliferate too many mostly non viable 20 states in one region - the North - but only 17 states in the two southern regions - East and West - that formed independent Nigeria with the northern region in 1960.
Land mass or population figures is NEVER used as yardstick to create too many new federating units and accruing political representation, in a country formed at independence by diverse regions.
There should have been equal number of states between the three regions that formed Nigeria in 1960.
Today, as other southerners ask for political restructuring of Nigeria, Northern politicians tell them to come to the National Assembly for political restructuring, knowing full well that the National Assembly is overwhelmingly overpopulated by northern legislators who will vote against any changes to the political structure and constitution.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by 7lives: 2:04pm On Jan 14
Iceberg3:
This is a big opportunity for the south to come together and make such positive moves cos we know the north will not agree to this.

Remove my West from your South.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Chetas81(m): 2:06pm On Jan 14
Obagreatdatoye:
Going back to our root is the deal
THE FRAUDULENT CITIZEN OCCUPIED THE GOVERNMENT HOUSE WON'T ALLOWED IT TO HAPPENED
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Chetas81(m): 2:07pm On Jan 14
TimeManager:

What business do we have with Aburi?, is Aburi a place in Nigeria?. Anything that's not agreed upon on Nigerian soil is total rubbish. Aburi was between two military men, 1999 constitution is also a military document. 1960 constitution is the people's document, unfortunately, some people carried out a coup, gave way to mllitary regime in Nigeria and threw away the people's constitution. Same people who should be asking Nigerians for forgiveness are still talking about a toilet paper called Aburi.

-kiss the truth!




HHHHMMM OPINION
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by kareemkamil(m): 2:08pm On Jan 14
Obierika:
Why should we go back?

U are u big foolish person, don't u know, when u are doing something and isn't favoring u, u need to revise from it.

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by DMerciful(m): 2:09pm On Jan 14
He should be telling his friend Tinubu. Tinubu controls the assembly 100%, Akpabio is worse than a rubber stamp
Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Kay25(m): 2:09pm On Jan 14
Baba is right we need not monetize politics

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Re: Throw Away 1999 Constitution, Embrace 1960’s, Bisi Akande Tells NASS by Nice2023(m): 2:10pm On Jan 14
Parachoko:
Even if Nigerians Embrace the 1960 Constitution, with Politicians like the Mediocre from Agulu, Nigeria won't still develop.

No b by system of Government abeg.

Look at how Nigerians are Hailing Asiwaju because of how he's ruling Perfectly.


Propagandist...u will soon be banned again.

People like u are akin to town crier and a terrible one at that.

How can any reasonable fellow compare a criminal with Obi...it takes a thief to support a thief.

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