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Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by tollyboy5(m): 1:34pm On Jan 30, 2024
Northernblood7:
You go explain explain explain Tire, No evidence. You go explain till your head gets flat at the front with patch of bald head at the back yet it won't end the bad state of things.
I thought you wanted to reply the guy with common sense!
But no zero sense!

You sense!ess obidient should stop spamming thread with jargons comment you've concluded on in beer parlor
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by AdeolaOmoOba(m): 1:39pm On Jan 30, 2024
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by caye(m): 1:45pm On Jan 30, 2024
Femmyfamous4u:
What most people don't know is that the refinery can refine all kinds of crude including US shale oil. With Nigerian crude it can only do 350k per day thereby not reaching full potentials.
In Nigerian terms, without using big-big grammar, explain shale oil , Vis a Vis:-

1) where it is got
2) the differences in processing btw shale and normal crude oil

3) the average cost of production of shale compared to normal Niger-Delta sweet crude


Thanks.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by pafun(m): 2:07pm On Jan 30, 2024
Solofresh2:
Hahaa
When I tell Nigerians that Dangote was only working for his own pocket,they taught I was lying grin
No he is working for your pocket. Why don’t you tell all industries importing raw materials to source from Nigeria by force.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Fujiyama: 2:10pm On Jan 30, 2024
pharmagba:
But behold he met president Tinubu a shrewd auditor who understands all the processes.
^^^
undecided

You just had to throw in the praise singing bits, right?

He isn't shrewd. His abysmal management of the economy so far should have settled that question for you. And he obviously doesn't understand "the processes" at all. If he did, things wouldn't be this bad.

At least you didn't call him a "first class accountant". Thank God for small mercies...
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Ubanz: 2:13pm On Jan 30, 2024
Lie, it's the same crude oil from Niger Delta that's rerouted back to Nigeria in the name of imports.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by pharmagba: 2:19pm On Jan 30, 2024
Fujiyama:
^^^
undecided

You just had to throw in the praise singing bits, right?

He isn't shrewd. His abysmal management of the economy so far should have settled that question for you. And he obviously doesn't understand "the processes" at all. If he did, things wouldn't be this bad.

At least you didn't call him a "first class accountant". Thank God for small mercies...
You seem to be oblivious of the fact in the news of how we got here.
NNPC said they never remitted a dime into federation account in 2022? Can you beat beat that? Yet we produce close to a million barrel per day?
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by NOETHNICITY(m):
Bankowner:
This is not hate bro! it is common sense.
I buy bread from you in Lagos, I take it to Aba. Someone from Lagos comes to Aba to buy the same bread and takes it back to Lagos with no value added. Does it make sense?
How is refined petroleum which Dangote is going to be selling the same as crude oil that he buys to go and refine in his refinery? How is that a ‘zero’ value according to you?
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by chrisblack1234: 3:11pm On Jan 30, 2024
It shows tinubu is not smart..dangote just playing with ya all..Nigerians are just suffering cos of APC..
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by chrisblack1234: 3:12pm On Jan 30, 2024
Tinubu not SMRT at all..well the end will tell
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Kazzman(m): 4:13pm On Jan 30, 2024
Mansa6:
Nigeria is NOT finished,you natural born failure..

And I like it that you have accepted your father's fate of being less privileged..

You express their characteristics...keep complaining about hardship and pass it on to the next generation like your forefathers did..
What has my statement got to do with your stupid response? Woe unto you for running that your God forsaken mouth on my comment, I don't blame you but I blamed the useless ones who brought you into this world. Obviously you're a complete mentally derailed person.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Fujiyama: 4:16pm On Jan 30, 2024
pharmagba:
You seem to be oblivious of the fact in the news of how we got here.
NNPC said they never remitted a dime into federation account in 2022? Can you beat beat that? Yet we produce close to a million barrel per day?
^^^
I am very much aware of how we got here.

'NNPC never remitted a dime' throughout the administration of Muhammadu Buhari, a loyal, fellow APC party man who Bola Tinubu venerates today. undecided The same NNPC didn't 'remit' a dime in the administration of Goodluck Jonathan, a man who Bola Tinubu has been photographed laughing heartily with. undecided But the Tinubu administration will do absolutely nothing meaningful about these revelations - they are news tidbits to 'stir up' Nigerians and nothing more. There will be no legal consequences for anyone.

Only the naive and the foolish will be deceived by these games.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by studyless123: 4:17pm On Jan 30, 2024
cornelman:
Fine, so why do supporters of government proclaim dangote refinery as an economic masterstroke that will ease the stress on the economy.
Just like you said, dangote refinery is a private business and a profit oriented one at that, and gives no damn about who eats or not. Dangote will sell his fuel at an international standard rate to ensure continuity in business. Any sensible businessman would do the same if I were in his shoes.

For me, I think the only problem is dangote given the licence to import and have access to the already scarce dollars to fund his private business. Doing that kills the economy more. Let him source for dollars like other business men.

People talk about dangote exporting to other countries, they forget that it's only a fraction of it that will be returned to the economy in USD. Most of the money might be invested in other businesses abroad and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

People needs to understand that Dangote refinery is not Nigeria's refinery.
Anyhow you look at it there are still positives. It's better to export petrol/diesel that crude. It better to export Bournvita/Milo than Cocoa.
I know a few people working there who are now able to care for their families.
Yes, the refinery is private and the investors are out to make their money. I agree with you that there should be fair play in FX transactions.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Gerrard59(m): 4:18pm On Jan 30, 2024
LordAdam16:
dvisors know their onions.
His ambition is contagious tho'.
He's already making plans to venture into steel production.
If Nigeria wasn't a dumpster fire, he'd have been able to keep up with the Indian industrialists and become a trailblazer on the continent.

He's building wealth the good ol' fashioned way backed by unassailable means of production.

-Lord
I like his wealth approach - solve the needs of a developing country not creating 1000 and 1 fintech apps. But where would he get cheap and quality iron ore? What about power supply? Unless import restrictions, he would find it hard to compete against the Chinese. Those people produce steel as if it is picking sand in the Sahara.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by studyless123: 4:35pm On Jan 30, 2024
caye:
In Nigerian terms, without using big-big grammar, explain shale oil , Vis a Vis:-

1) where it is got
2) the differences in processing btw shale and normal crude oil

3) the average cost of production of shale compared to normal Niger-Delta sweet crude
Thanks.
Is this an assignment?
In simple terms Shale oil is oil gotten from Shale formations and Shale is a form of rock.

In processing Shale oil is heavier and undergoes more refining that regular crude.

Cost of production varies but shale can be 2x more expensive to produce than regular crude.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by studyless123: 4:55pm On Jan 30, 2024
LordAdam16:
Interestingly, global refining capacity billed to be added between 2023 and 2027 is north of 10 million barrels per day.
Dangote's refinery will eat up only 600K.
In effect, Dangote can import crude oil from foreign sources and sell refined products to foreign sources with zero care in the world for Nigeria's energy needs.

He does not need the Nigerian market.
He does not need the CBN anymore.
His refinery sits right on the shoreline.
With clever accounting, he could also get away with paying peanuts in taxes.

If I were in his shoes, I'll do the same thing.
Nigerians can kick rocks.
When they're fed up with destructive partisanship, they know what to do.

-Lord
Where did you get that information? You mean an additional 10mbpd to be added in just 4 years.(2027) That's an inaccurate information.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by studyless123: 5:17pm On Jan 30, 2024
10mobile:
Hmmm! I've always seen selling crude as bad economic practice by helpless countries that can't refine or with low refining capacity. That's because no amount seems justifiable for the numerous crude by-products sold away. So, I'm surprised US also sells crude.

No no no, not true. Even if it's only the employment that the refinery would provide, it's an advantage. No one should think that Dang's refinery is an economic magic wand that will suddenly wave off all our economic woes. But it's certainly not a disadvantage.

After all, we're already import-dependent. So, importing crude isn't what will put more pressure on the Naira. Rather, when we refine in Nigeria, we have all the by-products for local use and re-export which would help us recover any loss in forex due to import.

The situation in Nigeria is really bad. But it's certainly not all bad. Of course, it's never all bad anywhere. As we keep the government on its toes, let's also try to see the silver linings for the sake of our sanity as a people. Thanks.
You're right. Selling crude is bad economic practice. The US makes more money from exporting refined petroleum than technology.
They sell crude because of increased production and local refineries can't handle it.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Chicagograduate(m): 5:36pm On Jan 30, 2024
They will now increase the price of fuel and say they bought at international markets.Does u.s have crude oil?
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by jojothaiv(m): 5:47pm On Jan 30, 2024
The thing is that one way or the other, the love letter will go round..
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Okiemute101: 6:04pm On Jan 30, 2024
Una don kolo...
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by ericmor: 6:12pm On Jan 30, 2024
Northernblood7:
Where are the Morons that said that the reason why their life is miserable is because Dangote refinery have not started producing? Can we all see now that Dangote refinery will end up putting more pressure on dollar making life more miserable for foolish Nigerians than they e have now?




So Nigerians will be the ones suffering for other countries abi? Dangote buys crude oil in USD causing our currency to depreciate less than our neighbours. Neighbouring countries will then cross over to Nigeria and import our very cheap petroleum products to them due to high currency value they have over Naira. Last last, Nigerians suffer the most.


Tinubu is not smart. This is not a curse but a fact



Shame on you Dangote needs 650k barrels only. Don't say what nobody said. You are the one saying all crude should be given to dangote not me

https://punchng.com/oil-production-now-1-7-million-barrels-daily-says-fg
With all the crude we have in Nigeria and not to talk of other Africa oil producing countries it is america he chose to go and get crude. Useless and mad people
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Anunakeeh: 7:04pm On Jan 30, 2024
killsmith:
Only fools would expect criminals to not be criminals.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by internationalman(m): 7:15pm On Jan 30, 2024
Chicagograduate:
They will now increase the price of fuel and say they bought at international markets.Does u.s have crude oil?
Yes. As a matter of fact Nigeria doesn't have crude oil compared to USA
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by PHAYOL81: 7:44pm On Jan 30, 2024
kokoA:
People fail to understand that Dangote is a private business out to make profit. Only a foolish business man will depend on one source for his raw materials, if he has the capacity to refine various crude so nothing stops him from buying from wherever he chooses. If Nigeria has crude always available for him then that's a plus else's business must go on.
Well said.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by ispreloaded(m): 7:55pm On Jan 30, 2024
What all the fuss here.? The moment tinubu changed that nnpcl receipt handling format ...the plan dangote got for crude oil casted....nigga wants a free crude oil while his northern broda in charge of nnpcl feed fat on their corruption feast .... He should go to the USA n get crude oil.... Nothing is free in Nigeria
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by ispreloaded(m): 8:01pm On Jan 30, 2024
internationalman:
Yes. As a matter of fact Nigeria doesn't have crude oil compared to USA
thing is dat we can produce more them USA but no refineries here....y'all know USA for production .... They can produce anything ....so it's the refineries dat is the problem for Nigeria
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by LordAdam16: 8:15pm On Jan 30, 2024
studyless123:
Where did you get that information? You mean an additional 10mbpd to be added in just 4 years.(2027) That's an inaccurate information.
Use Google.
Like it's not difficult. https://www.globaldata.com/store/report/crude-oil-refinery-projects-market-analysis/
Asia alone accounts for 9 mbpd in additions.
The figure I stated was conservative.

-Lord
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by internationalman(m): 8:42pm On Jan 30, 2024
ispreloaded:
thing is dat we can produce more them USA but no refineries here....y'all know USA for production .... They can produce anything ....so it's the refineries dat is the problem for Nigeria
For your info, the United States is the number one oil producing country in the world not Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Venezuela or Russia.

The United States has big states like Alaska which is a little bigger than Nigeria and Texas which is almost the same size as Nigeria as oils producing States. States like New Mexico, Colorado and North Dakota are oil producing States as well plus a whole lots of other States..

So the are rich naturally, economically, collectively and individually.

Only Russia makes more revenue than them in terms of natural resources.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by Chicagograduate(m): 9:03pm On Jan 30, 2024
internationalman:
Yes. As a matter of fact Nigeria doesn't have crude oil compared to USA
Is it a natural resources?
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by LordAdam16: 9:07pm On Jan 30, 2024
Gerrard59:
I like his wealth approach - solve the needs of a developing country not creating 1000 and 1 fintech apps. But where would he get cheap and quality iron ore? What about power supply? Unless import restrictions, he would find it hard to compete against the Chinese. Those people produce steel as if it is picking sand in the Sahara.
I've heard much talked about the Steel glut.
Maybe he's seeing sth the rest of us aren't.
When he started on the refinery, it felt like a poor decision because of the clean energy pivot.
Now, it appears he got in just in time.

I think the biggest impediment to Dangote's sustained rise is the continent's lethargic economy that is neither expanding fast enough nor significantly.
He is constrained by the size of our domestic (and soft regional/continental) market and whatever holes in the global market can be plugged from a non-traditional export source.
He is running out of low hanging fruits while his compatriots in Asia are building more factories, airports, ports, and pushing into new verticals at breakneck speed.
The likes of Adani and Ambani are not doing anything special. They're only doing things bigger.

On fintech apps, you'd think folks in the sector are blind to alternate opportunities in tech.
Particularly GCCs - Global Capability Centers.
Look it up and see how Indian magnates have captured that sector and how multinationals are on the prowl for a viable supplement.

-Lord
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by studyless123: 9:38pm On Jan 30, 2024
LordAdam16:
Use Google.
Like it's not difficult. https://www.globaldata.com/store/report/crude-oil-refinery-projects-market-analysis/
Asia alone accounts for 9 mbpd in additions.
The figure I stated was conservative.

-Lord
grin grin grin
That's not achievable. Those are projections and proposals. The best that can be achieve from 23-27 is 50% of that number.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Import Crude Oil From The United States by loffyloffy: 10:01pm On Jan 30, 2024
Northernblood7:
Where are the Morons that said that the reason why their life is miserable is because Dangote refinery have not started producing? Can we all see now that Dangote refinery will end up putting more pressure on dollar making life more miserable for foolish Nigerians than they e have now?





So Nigerians will be the ones suffering for other countries abi? Dangote buys crude oil in USD causing our currency to depreciate less than our neighbours. Neighbouring countries will then cross over to Nigeria and import our very cheap petroleum products to them due to high currency value they have over Naira. Last last, Nigerians suffer the most.


Tinubu is not smart. This is not a curse but a fact



Shame on you Dangote needs 650k barrels only. Don't say what nobody said. You are the one saying all crude should be given to dangote not me

https://punchng.com/oil-production-now-1-7-million-barrels-daily-says-fg
Ignorance when mixed with bitterness and hatred is a great disease.

1, Dangote is a private business..even if Nigeria owns 20% of the shares. He can run his business anyway he sees fit. So it is not your place to tell him what to do.

Dangote refinery is designed for not just Nigerian crude, it can take crude from anywhere. This is what they mix to get the blend that they desire.

This company has already taken 6m barrel from Nigeria and are taken additional 2 m barrel from texas(a thicker and cheaper crude crude) that is what lead to all this baby noises.

Crude oil is not like water that you get any quantity when you want it.

It is produced in trickles and contracts for sales are negotiated sometimes month ahead..so it doesn't mean that it is automatic that everytime dangote needs crude, Nigeria must have crude to supply ..it is quite possible that the Nigerian crude has already been tied down to another contract or crude is not available in the quantity or quality that Dangote desires..it is all operational and no mega issue.

For the record Nigerian crude production has gone up significantly from the Buhari level since BAT took over..as a matter of fact just last week I was talking to a friend who told me they have been achieving record levels of production recently.

So which ever way you look at it..Tinubu has been good for the oil and gas industry.

But the headless mob will continue to paint everything black and off course hold Tinubu responsible for there missing manhood
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