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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:55pm On Feb 05
I’m not feeling sorry for Moffi or KC. Read and see reason. Their contribution may be needed in future. But they may be ineffective because they have seen zero action prior.

I think the game against Angola exposed Peseiro. It was bad idea not switching things up as things wore out. He wanted to die with the old script. Fortunately, we held on.

Mujtahida:

It's not about tasting action oo. There must be real practical reasons for them to come in. At Afcon 94, Rashidi played all the matches. I read you as if you are feeling sorry for Moffi and Iheanacho (unless I am wrong and I hope I am).

It's cliché to say you don't change a winning team or strategy. Sounds ordinary but if you try something else and dem knack you kpako, you will be filled with deep regret.

We forget that this strategy was adopted because of the glaring weakness of our team. And the weaknesses are still there oo but this strategy has enabled us manage them better.

The only reason why I'd call for Osimhen to be subbed are:
If he's tired or we are leading by at least two goals. No be to just remove am fiam just to give Iheanacho and Moffi play time oo. If you take unnecessary risk and e back fire, you go piss for pant.

If I am Peserio I will do exactly what he has been doing. Yes it's predictable but predictability of itself is not bad if your opponents don't have superior strategy to deal with you. Arjen Robben was highly predictable. Even you and me know say him go cut to his favorite left foot but oya stop am na. That's the rub.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:56pm On Feb 05
mostob:
Gbam! Na 'anyhow' football dey win tournament. Victory is what matters not who score. Although those people asking Osimhen to be dropped have got a perfect excuse for that. Osimhen missing chances night cost us one day but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to his other activities on the pitch.
He needs to break the jinx. Lookman also wants him to score but see how he dey do like say na Kai Harvest dey meet GK! Perhaps he scores one screamer and everyone forgets he's on 2G/A

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by caprikon: 5:58pm On Feb 05
kennysville:
One thing is sure going into the match against SA, they gonna do operation Covid 19. Na total lockdown. I can promise you they won't come out to play. They don't seem to have any player with physicality and pace of Osimhen which is gonna be a big worry. They know that. Most likely tactic will be to hope we drag till Extra time and hopefully go into penalties. This is why all headers and flicks need to be on point for Naija. No gree for anybody. Make all set pieces and corner kicks count. No selfish play
Make una warn Moses well.

They will most likely sit very deep just like Naija. Hoping for penalties.

Iwobi's passing in the final third will be a huge factor. I can almost foresee SA conceding a penalty during the game.

Hope we score!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:59pm On Feb 05
kennysville:
One thing is sure going into the match against SA, they gonna do operation Covid 19. Na total lockdown. I can promise you they won't come out to play. They don't seem to have any player with physicality and pace of Osimhen which is gonna be a big worry. They know that. Most likely tactic will be to hope we drag till Extra time and hopefully go into penalties. This is why all headers and flicks need to be on point for Naija. No gree for anybody. Make all set pieces and corner kicks count. No selfish play
Make una warn Moses well.

If that is the case then get an Iheanacho for the cross and nod duty. Or better still, play Aina in advanced role so he can cross. Osimhen should be more effective with crosses. We should however avoid fouls in 25yrd area. We all know why.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:01pm On Feb 05
charlesemeka85:
even as I Nigerian I go leave the job if I win the afcon

That alone will open more doors for jobs with better salary package

Nigerians are ungrateful people no matter what you achieve with the national team. Keshi too should have left immediately after winning Afcon though he wanted to go to the World Cup. But if am Paseiro I go pack my load after Afcon.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oboto700(m): 6:01pm On Feb 05
ChrisKels:


If you were here in 2018 you wouldn’t be wasting your time on Joebie. This is his usual tournament ish.


Errrm please change your moniker from Oboto to Obote
oboto means greatness in my dialect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:02pm On Feb 05
kennysville:


Apparently you missed my context. but here it is. Remember that before now once a team scores first against Naija, its distress football from then on. We have soldiered on for 5 games at least and thus far we can say we been good. But this isnt group stage anymore where you have a chance at redemption. I will cite 2 instances where chasing odd goal was not easy to come back from. Naija vs Tunisia in the last afcon. 2nd one is Naija vs ghana in Abuja. We saw how difficult it was for us to put in the 2nd goal. Stakes are higher now in that you get eliminated if you dont take your chances. We know no one has scored against us since, not because they havent tried to score. Complacency is all it takes and boom, the midget floors the giant. Thats when almost stories will start .... if we had, if we had.

No one has scored us yet shouldnt be a yardstick to measure how we are doing. For one, we have improved from being docile to being fighters. We cant have hurriedly forgotten how we lost.... sorry I mean drew 2 World Cup qualifier games. Thank God for injuries to certain individuals, do we think Peseiro would have changed his tactics? He found his team because situation necessitated it.


Thats the point I am raising. Please seek to understand not reply

Isn't it interesting you are buttressing "your point" with matches and a coach that has nothing to do with this current one?

Off the top of my head I can easily remember 4 matches (which includes those two WCQ you mentioned) under this Coach we have come back from going behind. The same has been evident in this competition howbeit one time.

So pray tell, how has it been a challenge responding to going behind with this coach?

Lastly, you don't need to become salty because I challenged your logic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:08pm On Feb 05
Ppogbae:
Osimhen beating Cameroon on and off the field!
grin Remember how gossiping men here wasted pages discussing this "oyibo" girl. So na cameroonian afterall
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:17pm On Feb 05
The most important player for our 2013 AFCON success was Victor Moses. Highly technical with awesome dribbling skills. Efficient in scoring goals.
Lookman is the replica albiet a bit different.

We need Sanusi to step up his decision making going forward. With a simple pass to Osimhen and Simon in first and early 2nd half we could have been three nil up before Angola struck the post.

If Sanusi could better his decision making, Sundowns! ohh sorry South Africa will use basket carry goals on Wednesday!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 6:30pm On Feb 05
Oboto700:
oboto means greatness in my dialect
Exactly!
You're bearing a name as great as this and you go about insulting people anyhow on this thread. You sef think am

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 6:31pm On Feb 05
Ppogbae:
Osimhen beating Cameroon on and off the field!
Wait o. How many wives sef. Thought Omolade is his only GF. Make this Bobo calm down o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oboto700(m): 6:35pm On Feb 05
mostob:
Exactly!
You're bearing a name as great as this and you go about insulting people anyhow on this thread. You sef think am
most people no get sense... osihmen would be running in on defenders just to put smiles on our faces some people here would be asking the coach to bench him.. is that right? That's witchcraft
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:41pm On Feb 05
U be oboto for mumuness as u no fit reason 😂
Oboto700:
most people no get sense... osihmen would be running in on defenders just to put smiles on our faces some people here would be asking the coach to bench him.. is that right? That's witchcraft
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:46pm On Feb 05
Goke7:


They felt the Angolans were more technical than the Eagles, you can see they admitted how we neutralised their dangermen

there's nothing special those guys are doing, this is what the likes of Deji Omotoyinbo and the late Deji Tinubu (God bless his soul) were doing those days. Na because na social media analysts full naija now like the ones on this thread dey make these fellows look like experts
What they are doing is brilliant. I maintain that I've not seen such brilliant tactical post match analysis in our media. That certain persons have done it in the past does not diminish the brilliance of what they are doing.

They are Ghanaians. They have their biases against us yet even at that they highlight our brilliance and as far as post match analysis is concerned, they are quite objective and measured.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 6:47pm On Feb 05
Odunayaw:
Isn't it interesting you are buttressing "your point" with matches and a coach that has nothing to do with this current one?

Off the top of my head I can easily remember 4 matches (which includes those two WCQ you mentioned) under this Coach we have come back from going behind. The same has been evident in this competition howbeit one time.

So pray tell, how has it been a challenge responding to going behind with this coach?

Lastly, you don't need to become salty because I challenged your logic.


Am sure it wasnt too long ago that we drew 2 world cup qualifiers. Wasnt too long ago that we played a lot of friendlies under this our anointed coach as you make him out to be. Just before the Afcon, we sabi how our blood pressure was like. We know how much of low expectation we placed on this same team led by Peseiro. How we have so soon forgotten. Abi those chapters didnt exist ni? So suddenly we are coasting now and the Coach Peseiro is the best thing since sliced bread?

Lastly on the 2nd bolded, I stated my point which is plain and simple. There is no saltiness in what I said. If thats your idea of making a jibe, well its all good. Time will tell.

My point remains that Super eagles should not be complacent just because it's the Bafana bafana we are playing. We said a lot of stuff before the Ghana matches too. How we were gonna annihilate them. but we all know how it played out.
Finito!!!

copyright TheGoodJoe .... (All rights reserved 2013)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:52pm On Feb 05
Starboytwo:
This is nothing but a joke sir. Bench Osimhen for Moffi?? Because of what? And why ??

Afcon semi final and you want Osimhen benched cheesy cheesy no be juju be that. I'm very very sure Tinubu will call NFF president and warn him of such madness.

Lol. You Wan bench our MESSI.

Stopped being OTT and overcome with emotive sentiment.

Moffi is not underperforming in his league and club and neither is VO.

The striker's primary responsibility is to score anything else is an advantage. VO is struggling to score, Moffi should be given a chance to show what he can do .

At least for the first half and if he scores them he stays and takes the accolades.

As it stands AFCON defender have got VO marked and he is struggling to score one goal in 5 games is not good for him or the SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel17: 6:54pm On Feb 05
Can't wait.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oboto700(m): 6:57pm On Feb 05
Joebie:
U be oboto for mumuness as u no fit reason 😂
dem don swear for you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:58pm On Feb 05
Mujtahida:

It's not about tasting action oo. There must be real practical reasons for them to come in. At Afcon 94, Rashidi played all the matches. I read you as if you are feeling sorry for Moffi and Iheanacho (unless I am wrong and I hope I am).

It's cliché to say you don't change a winning team or strategy. Sounds ordinary but if you try something else and dem knack you kpako, you will be filled with deep regret.

We forget that this strategy was adopted because of the glaring weakness of our team. And the weaknesses are still there oo but this strategy has enabled us manage them better.

The only reason why I'd call for Osimhen to be subbed are:
If he's tired or we are leading by at least two goals. No be to just remove am fiam just to give Iheanacho and Moffi play time oo. If you take unnecessary risk and e back fire, you go piss for pant.

If I am Peserio I will do exactly what he has been doing. Yes it's predictable but predictability of itself is not bad if your opponents don't have superior strategy to deal with you. Arjen Robben was highly predictable. Even you and me know say him go cut to his favorite left foot but oya stop am na. That's the rub.

VO is very predictable is that what you are saying that being the case should we not do something unpredictable and bring in Moffi absolutely not KC but Moffi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:58pm On Feb 05
Joebie:
I’m not feeling sorry for Moffi or KC. Read and see reason. Their contribution may be needed in future. But they may be ineffective because they have seen zero action prior.

I think the game against Angola exposed Peseiro. It was bad idea not switching things up as things wore out. He wanted to die with the old script. Fortunately, we held on.

You talk as if it a given that if those guys come in at the time you expect, things will switch up.
Nothing is guaranteed, them for fit enter and them knack us. You just do what you need to do and hope for the best.

See some things are beyond what our eyes see watching as onlookers far away from the action. Remove this one, remove that one. Fine but it's no guarantee for anything. This is football. You remove, them knack you nko? What would you say?

I maintain that the only reason Osimhen ought to have been subbed out was because he was tired. We have seen it many times in football, you sub your talisman, the other side gains strength and punishes you.

All our talk is just talk. We are not in camp. We don't see what he sees with the players. Besides he's just an arrow head. There's a technical team.

Make we win first. That's what is important now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:00pm On Feb 05
Oboto700:
most people no get sense... osihmen would be running in on defenders just to put smiles on our faces some people here would be asking the coach to bench him.. is that right? That's witchcraft
I know. I didn't support the notion. That doesn't mean the basis of their stance is not reasonable. All you need to do is to counter them with fact, and not going about calling them names. It doesn't bode well on your personality. You get?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:01pm On Feb 05
EEGA:
Iheanacho will not see those chances like Osimhen in this set-up.He lacks the work rate and pace and will require a change of formation.

Please stop hyping this guys on the bench.

In addition KC is not match fit and far from being in form.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:06pm On Feb 05
Joebie:
That’s the only thing Osimhen has done poorly— conversion rate. Everything else, he is GOLD.


I think you are gassing it , are you worried 😩 if you present a not so popular view that contradicts the larger majority of fanatics, you'll get roasted 🍠

His attributes of relentless determination work rate and aggression are not in dispute.

But tactically some issues the rate at which he goes offside is too much. He is not got deceptive skills to beat players he relies on pace.

That works in Seria A but not in the AFCON with so many strong powerful athletic fast muscle 💪🏿 head 🗣️ Africans as defenders.

These are issues that prevent him from scoring.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:09pm On Feb 05
Amedino99:
ten hag said Sancho was not training to standard, poch said noni and mudryk were not training up to standard but you feel no coach can come and say one of his players is not match fit. Funny guy

You are talking about club football Vs National football in a two week tournament.

You cannot compare contention between players and coaches to what's happening with KC.

The facts are staring at you , not played since December 2nd, he is not in form, 20 games in championship and he has scored 5 he is joint 38th position in the scoring table. He has gone from injury treatment table straight to the AFCON.

You don't need any in-depth understanding to know KC is not match fit . And even.if he was he out of form and struggling as it stands.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:10pm On Feb 05
komekn:


VO is very predictable is that what you are saying that being the case should we not do something unpredictable and bring in Moffi absolutely not KC but Moffi.
Unpredictability for semi final?Just like that?Are you a teenager? Thank God una no be coach because una think say na toy una dey play. You think Afcon is a joke.

Okocha said that after winning Afcon at the first try in 94,he thought it was easy but at the end he won just one champion, one silver and three bronzes. Mikel said Afcon is like champions league. Oho

You see you guys are just talking in the abstract. Unpredictability based on what?

I watched Tijani yesterday. He said when Bonfrere Joe told him to play on the left at Afcon 2000, he went to complain to Keshi. Keshi now took him to see Bonfrere. When Keshi made the point about Babangida's complaint, Bonfrere chased them out of his room but told Babangida that if he doesn't score in that match, he would never play for Bonfrere again.

But Bonfrere was confident about throwing in that spanner not because he wanted to be unpredictable like an immature lover boy looking to impress his new girlfriend. He had his eyes on practical reality based on the fact - as revealed by Babangida yesterday - that there was a weakness at the back of SA that he could exploit. It was based on study and analysis.

I ask you now, what is the practical necessity of suddenly bringing in Moffi to start ahead of Osimhen? Based on what? Are you the coach? Have you studied the SA team? Do you know their strengths and weaknesses. Between Osimhen and Moffi who is better suited for our game plan against SA?

Talk easy ooo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:10pm On Feb 05
ChrisKels:



This is why I said you are tactically bankrupt. Are we playing wing football primarily? How good is SiMoses offensively to peg back the SA fullback to create a space for Aina to make those marauding runs and give those delicious crosses?

You don’t know anything about football tactics

Moses is not good but he won motm twice, habi!?

Na only your eyes you see Moses is not good offensively to peg back the SA fullback.

So, it's Iheanacho that can peg back full back. I thought you said we are not using wingers.

Do you think I didn't see your post before you modified? grin

Olodo tactician. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:14pm On Feb 05
Goke7:


no be the same 1-0 the game end? was that the only chance we had in that game?
Ikpeba wey hot that time, miss sweet chance
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oboto700(m): 7:18pm On Feb 05
mostob:
I know. I didn't support the notion. That doesn't mean the basis of their stance is not reasonable. All you need to do is to counter them with fact, and not going about calling them names. It doesn't bode well on your personality. You get?
which fact...are they not following the games? Some people are just bitter
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:19pm On Feb 05
Samueltemi337:
Some people here don't even have the right to insult JP
Because they know nothing about football and tactics
I saw one even suggesting they bench Simon for Iheanacho at this stage
The talk is so immature walahi. JPes should stick to his tactics with the same personnel. If them win us, them win us. Every team gets beaten.

The issue is that their suggestions are abstract. I maintain that the only reason for changes is tiredness or if we have a comfortable lead. Many want to slake their appetite of seeing Moffi or Iheanacho on the pitch. I like them oo. But as it stands VO is doing great.

Assuming the coach started with Iheanacho and we come this far and people suggest that he should put Osimhen, I will not agree oo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:28pm On Feb 05
komekn:


Stopped being OTT and overcome with emotive sentiment.

Moffi is not underperforming in his league and club and neither is VO.

The striker's primary responsibility is to score anything else is an advantage. VO is struggling to score, Moffi should be given a chance to show what he can do

At least for the first half and if he scores them he stays and takes the accolades.


As it stands AFCON defender have got VO marked and he is struggling to score one goal in 5 games is not good for him or the SE.
So the bolded is your reason? Accolades? What sort of childish thinking is this?

So you are not seeing that the front three have forged a chemistry out of the fire of practical on-field football? You think those things are guaranteed abi? Na wa for una. So they should just put Moffi to see what Moffi can do?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ThunderFireAgba: 7:33pm On Feb 05
Guys South Africans don come o cheesy grin cheesy

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 7:34pm On Feb 05
Mujtahida:

So that's your reason? Chai.

So you are not seeing that the front three have forged a chemistry out of the fire of practical on-field football? You think those things are guaranteed abi? Na wa for una. So they should just put Moffi to see what Moffi can do?
The law Sir, at this point I think some people can suggest that Jpes should start Uzoho over Nwabili so as for for Us to be unpredictable. Please stop disturbing yourself Sir.

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