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Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Omooba77: 9:42am On Feb 18
Can God be Wicked to allow this hardship in Nigeria?
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Amotolongbo(f): 9:43am On Feb 18
Omooba77:
Can God be Wicked to allow this hardship in Nigeria?
Politics, economics are all human affairs, not God.
Na God be INEC?
Na God be the Executive, Legislative and Judicial head?

Countries with good leaders and institutions will surely get things right even if they commit the greatest immoralities on earth.

The people who brought the religions (Christianity and Islam) introduced the religion to turn the people to dummies while they continue to enrich themselves from the people’s sweat and commonwealth.

When Europe was still greatly attached to religion and the leaders using religion as tools of leadership and oppression, what was the effect on the masses?

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Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by iwriteall: 9:46am On Feb 18
God gave you Tinubu, Obi and Atiku
You went to vote Tinubu Onikure grin
Next time you'll have sense

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Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Tntsi: 9:46am On Feb 18
What is happening in our nation are the consequences for going against divinity.
I said here long ago that even tinubu hires angels to work with in this desecrated mandate, they will crash.
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Amotolongbo(f): 9:48am On Feb 18
iwriteall:
God gave you Tinubu, Obi and Atiku

You went to vote Tinubu
Onikure grin

Next time you'll have sense
There is something I don’t understand.

You claim emphatically that Obi won the election, but Tinubu rigged it.
Now, you are saying people voted for Tinubu, which one are we to believe?

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Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by dominique(f): 9:52am On Feb 18
Are Nigerians not wicked themselves? A country where a great percentage of the population are morally bankrupt, selfish and greedy don't deserve anything good. They hide under religion and go ahead to commit all sorts of atrocities against their fellow human beings. If the hardship currently being experienced is based on the behaviour of the average Nigerian, then it's well deserved.

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Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by iwriteall: 9:53am On Feb 18
Amotolongbo:
There is something I don’t understand.

You claim emphatically that Obi won the election, but Tinubu rigged it.
Now, you are saying people voted for Tinubu, which one are we to believe?

All candidates in the election was voted for, which one is you're saying people voted for tinubu

if people didn't vote for Tinubu, There's no how he would have been able to rig the election
it's easier to rig 1m votes than 3m votes
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by LoveLeadsLand(m): 9:53am On Feb 18
I will show you something shortly.
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Amotolongbo(f): 10:01am On Feb 18
dominique:
Are Nigerians not wicked themselves? A country where a great percentage of the population are morally bankrupt, selfish and greedy don't deserve anything good. They hide under religion and go ahead to commit all sorts of atrocities against their fellow human beings. If the hardship currently being experienced is based on the behaviour of the average Nigerian, then it's well deserved.
I used to think like this, but my mindset changed when I left Nigeria.

Every human being has the tendency to be morally bankrupt, selfish and greedy anywhere in the whole world. What regulates this tendency is the punitive measures and how strict these measures are.

The leaders formulate policies, guidelines and punitive measures and total enforcement to any erring citizen, sparing no one.
Nigerian leaders know that the day they sit up and try to stop these immoralities and greed from the citizens, it will surely cost them the ability to amass wealth from the commonwealth.
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by amnesty7: 10:10am On Feb 18
So much disrespect for the name of God here.

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Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by fuckingAyaya(m): 11:19am On Feb 18
Lemme shock you many Nigerians will suffer till the world comes to an end. The crude oil God gave us to eradicate poverty is being stolen by some group of individuals hence the mass sufferings and poverty, no be the same oil dey UAE? The grace of God have left Nigeria long time ago but still abide with some families nd few people in Nigeria because they call upon the name of the Lord,After una vote rubbish and fold hands allow Inec manipulate result una go come dey blame God. What a joke!
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Kingrshd3: 11:28am On Feb 18
That's when u will know religion is a scam in Nigeria
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by GOFRONT(m): 11:32am On Feb 18
Bros there is no God anywhere to begin with..
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Righthussle: 11:51am On Feb 18
See them
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by xproducer: 2:35pm On Feb 18
Amotolongbo:
Politics, economics are all human affairs, not God.
Na God be INEC?
Na God be the Executive, Legislative and Judicial head?

Countries with good leaders and institutions will surely get things right even if they commit the greatest immoralities on earth.

The people who brought the religions (Christianity and Islam) introduced the religion to turn the people to dummies while they continue to enrich themselves from the people’s sweat and commonwealth.

When Europe was still greatly attached to religion and the leaders using religion as tools of leadership and oppression, what was the effect on the masses?

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Aren't mans' inhumanity to man and non-GODLY entities the issue?!

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12

GOD IS Perfect in fact!

"The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works." - Psalm 145:17

"As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the Lord is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him." - 2 Samuel 22:31
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Emusan(m): 3:19pm On Feb 18
GOFRONT:
Bros there is no God anywhere to begin with..

Which evidence do you have for this claim?
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by efficiencie(m): 3:20pm On Feb 18
Omooba77:
Can God be Wicked to allow this hardship in Nigeria?

It is judgment for our wickedness. A lot of Nigerians are wicked. Our leaders are our punishment. There is hardly any Nigerian that will not steal public funds if given the opportunity. The money that was involved in a fraudulent activity in the ministry of humanitarian affairs was initially 585m naira now it has jumped to 30b naira. How can we be so heartless. There are people here who won't mind sleeping with their neighbor's wife. There are people here who won't mind carting away with people's money through crowd-funding. The moment a person rises his friends and family will bewitch him out of envy. Men are lying to young girls sleeping with them, making them abort continuously, destroying them and refusing to marry them. How can we continue in all these things and expect Nigeria as a whole to be good. As long as we keep doing evil and calling it good the land will be cursed for generations until we repent as a nation.

We have not yet seen suffering oh. This is just the beginning. A time will come that it will be a nightmare stepping outside your house. As long as we want to continue to be evil, God will give us over to our desires.
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Amotolongbo(f): 3:48pm On Feb 18
xproducer:


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Aren't mans' inhumanity to man and non-GODLY entities the issue?!

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12

GOD IS Perfect in fact!

"The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works." - Psalm 145:17

"As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the Lord is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him." - 2 Samuel 22:31




What is the “equal to” of all these?
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by CodingSoft: 4:05pm On Feb 18
Amotolongbo:
I used to think like this, but my mindset changed when I left Nigeria.

Every human being has the tendency to be morally bankrupt, selfish and greedy anywhere in the whole world. What regulates this tendency is the punitive measures and how strict these measures are.

The leaders formulate policies, guidelines and punitive measures and total enforcement to any erring citizen, sparing no one.
Nigerian leaders know that the day they sit up and try to stop these immoralities and greed from the citizens, it will surely cost them the ability to amass wealth from the commonwealth.

[I used to think like this too, but my mindset changed when I left Nigeria. But now after getting used to the system of the developed countries my mindset changed again] I have now realised that big corruptions and cover ups are not only in developing countries like Nigeria. We need to now pull our minds together to research into why the system is working for the developed countries that they are always improving but not so back home.

Read this this to know what I mean:

Here is one example:

Mr Bates vs the Post Office: what’s the real story of the Post Office scandal?

It was called one of the 'worst miscarriages of justice in British history'. Here's what you need to know

In 1999, the Post Office introduced a brand-new way of cataloguing payments: the Horizon IT system. It was intended to be a way to modernise the organisation, moving it from paper-based records into the upcoming 21st century.

What unfolded instead was a disaster. The Horizon IT system was faulty, prone to glitches which incorrectly exhibited shortfalls of cash that were blamed on the subpostmasters in charge of their branches, leading to twenty years of legal disputes, hundreds of wrongful convictions and untold lives destroyed.

Now the whole sorry affair is being turned into an ITV drama, Mr Bates vs The Post Office, airing on January 1. It's a complex and shocking story, so here’s our handy explainer.

When Alan Bates arrived in Llandudno, in 1998, it was with the intention of making a fresh start. Together with his long-term partner Suzanne, the pair had invested their life savings into buying a Post Office branch in the sleepy village of Craig-y-Don.

In 1999 he, along with thousands of other subpostmasters, received training in the new Horizon IT system introduced by the Post Office. It was the end result of a failed experiment – originally, Horizon was intended to be a swipe card system, designed to pay out pensions and benefits from Post Office branches. Begun in 1996, it was eventually scrapped in May 1999, and had cost roughly £700m in taxpayers’ money.

To get some use from that system, the Post Office pivoted; now, it would be used as a means of providing electronic accounting, transactions and stocktaking for all its branches.

Questions remained around Horizon’s effectiveness – as the board of directors wrote in their September minutes, “serious doubts over the reliability of the software remained” – but seemingly went disregarded. Indeed, the later public inquiry heard that Paula Vennells, who first joined the Post Office as network director in 2007, sent around a "Horizon defence piece" in 2009, where she repeatedly asserted that the system was robust.

Instead, the opposite was true. Soon after the software went live, Bates started noticing issues in the system’s accounting. Sums of money started showing up as missing, to the tune of £6,000. To make matters worse, subpostmasters who used the system were unable to accessing all the data from previous transactions they and staff had logged, making it impossible to tell where the fault was.

“I’d worked with these types of systems before we’d taken on the business with the Post Office, and although they had been far smaller systems I had enough experience to suspect the truth at a very early stage, and it didn't matter what they said: they were wrong, and I knew they were wrong,” he said.
“We were told to call the helpline, which became known as the hell line as it was so useless,” he later said. Under the terms of his contract, Bates was obliged to pay back the missing money, which the Post Office immediately began chasing him for.

After some back and forth over the amount of money owed, Bates eventually refused to pay the £1,600 outstanding, “until such time as I am able to access the data that I am being asked to be responsible for.” He was immediately made redundant, with three months’ notice – and lost almost £65,000 of his life savings as a result.
Bates remained unbowed: he immediately set up a website calling for justice, which his partner Suzanne promoted by hanging up a banner outside the shop. However, movement on the case was slow. “I occasionally heard from the odd person, but people seemed too scared to do more,” he said.
It wasn’t just Bates who had fallen foul of Horizon: hundreds of other subpostmasters had, too – and things quickly escalated.

Thousands of pounds were incorrectly reported missing due to glitches in the system, and to plug the gaps, many subpostmasters had to plough their life savings into making up the deficit. Jo Hamilton, a subpostmaster from South Warnborough, remortgaged her house to pay the debts.

Martin Griffiths, the subpostmaster at Great Sutton, paid £100,000, including some from his parents, in an attempt to reimburse the Post Office for money they said he had lost; crippled by shame, he eventually took his own life at the age of 58. His widow, Gina, later said that she was pressured into signing a gagging clause for a sum of £120,000. In total, two people took their own lives as a result of the scandal, with a third suspected suicide inconclusively attributed to it.
Continue reading here: https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/mr-bates-vs-the-post-office-the-real-story-post-office-scandal-b1128473.html
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by xproducer: 4:54pm On Feb 18
Amotolongbo:
What is the “equal to” of all these?

GOD IS Perfect in fact! and...

wickedness will come to an end - precisely as HE has declared.

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." - Revelation 21:8
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Amotolongbo(f): 5:15pm On Feb 18
xproducer:


GOD IS Perfect in fact! and...

wickedness will come to an end - precisely as HE has declared.

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." - Revelation 21:8

How is God perfect?
Re: Can God Be Wicked To Allow This Hardship In Nigeria? by Karleb(m): 5:37pm On Feb 18
If I hear you blame God again, I will give you hot slap.

2027 is coming, you people will still vote Tinubu.

So keep shut and leave God alone.

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