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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Faithful007: 3:42am On Feb 17
kabe1:


Hungary signed a contract for 2 x units for $285.7 million.

This means each aircraft is coming in at over $142 million, maintenance and training included.

That's not roughly the same price as the C-295.


The C-290 is a modern aircraft which is proving to be more competitive than the C-130J and certainly better than the A400M when all things are considered.

NAF C-130s are now nearing their expected lifespan, hopefully we get in replacements soon enough.


I assuming you further note that the C-295 is even cheaper. That's more coincident with me. So why exactly do you prefer that kc390 over it? I mean, I believe NAF does not do heavy airlifts. It's just mostly personnel and supplies.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:27am On Feb 17
kabe1:


No evidence the A400M performs better than the KC-390 in unprepared surface. The C-390 millennium performance on dirt tracks is excellent, there are free resources online that prove this.

The A400M costs nearly 4 times more to operate and maintain.

That's not a tactical airlifter.

Overall if your plan is to fly over Nigeria and west Africa at most, you have no business with the A400M. It's a very good aircraft but limitations are significant if you don't have a huge pursue.
- Shorter take off and landing distance is evidence, as is turboprop vs turbofan....it's no secret that turbofans don't like dust.

- Source?? they are nearly 3 times the unit price but what are the maintenance figures? where did you get that it costs 4 times more to operate?

- It is exactly what I said it is. It certainly is a tactical airlift which can carry strategic loads.

What are the limitations except for the price?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ocelot2006(m): 10:37am On Feb 17
kabe1:
Well, well, well!!!

Embraer demonstrates KC-390 military transport aircraft to the Nigerian Air Force |

According to Janes - “Embraer instructor pilot Marco Aurélio Oliveira said that prior to arriving in Saudi Arabia his team had flown three to four days of demonstrations in Nigeria, showcasing the aircraft as a potential replacement for the Nigerian Air Force's (NAF's) ageing fleet of Lockheed Martin C-130H Hercules that has been in service since 1975.”

Our C130s need to be replaced, BUUUUUT can the Brazilian plane perform same tasks like the C130 like take off from short unprepared dirt strip for tactical airfreight ops? What's it's capacity compared to the C130? Those air intakes of those jet engines on dirt runways.......dunno mean. Still, beautiful bird.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:52am On Feb 17
Airshow in Nigeria!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:18pm On Feb 17
ocelot2006:


Our C130s need to be replaced, BUUUUUT can the Brazilian plane perform same tasks like the C130 like take off from short unprepared dirt strip for tactical airfreight ops? What's it's capacity compared to the C130? Those air intakes of those jet engines on dirt runways.......dunno mean. Still, beautiful bird.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivM6nlo9DOU?si=6_ecVDZh_HdiWYK0
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:22pm On Feb 17
jl115:

- Shorter take off and landing distance is evidence, as is turboprop vs turbofan....it's no secret that turbofans don't like dust.

- Source?? they are nearly 3 times the unit price but what are the maintenance figures? where did you get that it costs 4 times more to operate?

- It is exactly what I said it is. It certainly is a tactical airlift which can carry strategic loads.

What are the limitations except for the price?

From the video above, you can see the C390 takeoff from dirt runways without issues.

Besides how many times have you seen South African C-130s takeoff from dirt runways?

Even in the raging Russia -Ukraine war, we haven't seen heavy transport planes takeoff from dirt runways.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Bacteria8: 12:31pm On Feb 17
jl115:
My opinion has always been to stay neutral in the geopolitical game, regardless if the intentions were good, we should've kept our noses out of it and focused solely on ourselves and fixing our problems, anyone with half a brain cell could've seen this coming hence well done ANC, you've pressured Israel and possibly helped the Palestinians to an extent, but to the expense(possibly) of your own people.

@the bolded:

I bet you would also want the SANDF to exit the Congo right now, giving recent fatal mishaps grin

Wrong move sir.

Even me as a Nigerian, I really love how South Africa maintain a buoyant foreign policy.

In a world of global interconnectedness, it would be a mistake to live in a cocoon.

By the way, I don't think the Americans would push South Africa into a sanction...that would only solidify the Messiah claims of the BRICS nations

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:38pm On Feb 17
jl115:
My opinion has always been to stay neutral in the geopolitical game, regardless if the intentions were good, we should've kept our noses out of it and focused solely on ourselves and fixing our problems, anyone with half a brain cell could've seen this coming hence well done ANC, you've pressured Israel and possibly helped the Palestinians to an extent, but to the expense(possibly) of your own people.

Do yourself a favour and go read the actual thing, not media reports about it. It's even more incoherent and nonsensical than the last failed one.

A refresher for all of us, on how a bill actually becomes law in the US:

1) referencing the bill as introduced by the US Congress is incorrect:
It's not a Congressional Bill. It's been introduced by two members of the House of Reps;
2) the next step would be for a committee to review the bill and either send it to the floor of the House for a vote, or kill it;
3) If the House of Reps ratifies it, it's then forwarded to the Senate for discussion and a possible vote;
4) If Senate does approve it, it then has to go to the President who can either ratify or veto it.

A process that could take years or not even see the light of day (A previous similar bill after the Lady R nonsense didn't even make it to step 2 above).

South Africans who don't like the direction of foreign and other policies under the ANC, must do the hard work of developing superior policies and persuading their fellow citizens to chuck out the incumbents.
The short cut of lobbying ideological mates in western legislatures, think-tanks and media is lazy, useless and reeks of political immaturity.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 11:07am On Feb 18
The 2 KIA from 1 SA Infantry Battalion (1SAI) being received at AFB Waterkloof.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:21am On Feb 18
kabe1:


From the video above, you can see the C390 takeoff from dirt runways without issues.

Besides how many times have you seen South African C-130s takeoff from dirt runways?

Even in the raging Russia -Ukraine war, we haven't seen heavy transport planes takeoff from dirt runways.
- I never said it can't take off from dirt runways however in the long run turbofans will need more maintenance than Turboprops due to dust exposure, this is a well known fact.

- During the border war quiet a lot actually

- What's the infrastructure like....Africa vs Ukraine? also the A400m is quite small compared to the likes of the C17, An-124, Y20 ect ect

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:25am On Feb 18
Bacteria8:


@the bolded:

I bet you would also want the SANDF to exit the Congo right now, giving recent fatal mishaps grin

Wrong move sir.

Even me as a Nigerian, I really love how South Africa maintain a buoyant foreign policy.

In a world of global interconnectedness, it would be a mistake to live in a cocoon.

By the way, I don't think the Americans would push South Africa into a sanction...that would only solidify the Messiah claims of the BRICS nations
Why the laughing emoji? secondly we've lost soldiers in the DRC before it's not something new to lose soldiers in conflict areas.

And yes I've said we should've left the DRC once the UN stopped funding Rooivalk deployments

They never mentioned sanctions they mentioned kicking SA from the AGOA trade agreement
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:39am On Feb 18
jl115:

- I never said it can't take off from dirt runways however in the long run turbofans will need more maintenance than Turboprops due to dust exposure, this is a well known fact.

- During the border war quiet a lot actually

- What's the infrastructure like....Africa vs Ukraine? also the A400m is quite small compared to the likes of the C17, An-124, Y20 ect ect

Excuse me, are you saying Ukraine has better infrastructure than African countries?

Is this what you're saying?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:45am On Feb 18
jl115:

- I never said it can't take off from dirt runways however in the long run turbofans will need more maintenance than Turboprops due to dust exposure, this is a well known fact.

- During the border war quiet a lot actually

- What's the infrastructure like....Africa vs Ukraine? also the A400m is quite small compared to the likes of the C17, An-124, Y20 ect ect

There's no evidence that the Turbofan will perform consistently over an extended period flying from unpaved surfaces.

All Airplanes require routine maintenance after flight, whether Turbofan or Turboprop.

You showed 1 picture of the C-130 flying from an unpaved surface, provide us with the raw numbers of flights from paved and unpaved surfaces.

A400M is a Strategic airlifter, this isn't even up for debate.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:05pm On Feb 18
Nigerian Soldiers Provide close protection for UNISFA Commander in South Sunday

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 1:07pm On Feb 18
Nigeria Police Force training Air Force Personnel on crowd control.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ElijahOkoh(m): 2:03pm On Feb 18
This thread is very educative, even for me.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 3:09pm On Feb 18
kabe1:
Nigerian Soldiers Provide close protection for UNISFA Commander in South Sunday


@kabe1 what type of weapon are those NA soldiers wielding ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:27pm On Feb 18
bidexiii:



@kabe1 what type of weapon are those NA soldiers wielding ?

It's some type of modernized SMG which used to be popular in the 80s and 90s.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:30pm On Feb 18
Nigerian Navy Special Forces Conducting Beach Landscaping, Shore raiding Exercise.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 4:17pm On Feb 18
kabe1:


It's some type of modernized SMG which used to be popular in the 80s and 90s.
Beretta M12 SMG
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 4:21pm On Feb 18
bidexiii:



@kabe1 what type of weapon are those NA soldiers wielding ?
Old Beretta SMGs
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 4:36pm On Feb 18
kabe1:


Excuse me, are you saying Ukraine has better infrastructure than African countries?

Is this what you're saying?
Yeahh better than most of Africa, well at least before Russia blew it up
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 4:38pm On Feb 18
kabe1:


There's no evidence that the Turbofan will perform consistently over an extended period flying from unpaved surfaces.

All Airplanes require routine maintenance after flight, whether Turbofan or Turboprop.

You showed 1 picture of the C-130 flying from an unpaved surface, provide us with the raw numbers of flights from paved and unpaved surfaces.

A400M is a Strategic airlifter, this isn't even up for debate.
-https://www.mace.manchester.ac.uk/research/impact/impact-pathways/atmospheric-dust-and-jet-engines/

- Turboprops require less maintenance : https://www.naa.edu/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-turboprop-engines/

- Why?? Why is this even a relevant questions?

- Kabe1 know more about the A400m than Airbus themselves??

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:21pm On Feb 18
Faithful007:


Concerning the earlier debacle, to explain what I mean, the Embraer is a cost-effective close air support aircraft against semi-conventional enemies that lack air defenses, while the paramount is for counter terrorism and special operations. The Embraer is used in a regular CAS profile, with the mission fully planned out. The other guy is more suited to a dynamic environment. Don't have time to type long sentences so I hope the links below give you an idea of what I mean.

https://www.sncorp.com/news-archive/a-29-super-tucano-wins-air-force-bid-for-light-air-support-mission/

https://theaviationist.com/2022/08/04/at-802u-sky-warden-selected-by-us-socom-for-armed-overwatch/
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 10:51pm On Feb 18
kabe1:
Nigerian Soldiers Provide close protection for UNISFA Commander in South Sunday

Honestly I hate these black bulletproof vest on either the universal or the woodland cammo angry

What's the whole aim or essence ? It's totally unethical.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 1:59am On Feb 19
Lurker4Long:

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A Nigerian is taking over security operations in Western Sahara scene.

Brigadier General Gabriel Olufemi Esho made history as he was officially appointed as the Deputy Force Commander of the United Nations Mission for the Referendum in Western Sahara (MINURSO). This prestigious position not only marks a personal achievement for Brigadier General Esho but also signifies a significant milestone for Nigeria, as he becomes the first Nigerian to hold such a position within MINURSO. In a colorful ceremony, Brigadier General Esho took over from Commodore Faustina Boakyewwa Anokye from the Ghana Navy.

Brigadier General Esho hails from Ondo State in western Nigeria. From a young age, he showed great determination and an unwavering commitment to serving others, which led him to pursue a career in the military. After graduating from the prestigious Nigerian Defense Academy as a member of 46th Regular Course with an honorary degree in Mathematics and a masters degree in Strategic Studies, his dedication and exceptional leadership qualities quickly garnered attention. Throughout his career, Brig Gen Esho displayed fierceness, resilience, and a remarkable grasp of strategic military operations. His ability to think on his feet and a deep understanding of complex regional dynamics made him a natural choice for various peacekeeping missions across Africa. His stellar track record soon captured the attention of the United Nations, which recognized his incredible potential and appointed him to MINURSO.

MINURSO was established by the UN Security Council in 1991 with the primary objective of overseeing the referendum on self-determination for the people of Western Sahara. The mission has long been regarded as one of the most challenging, yet crucial, peacekeeping operations in the world. Brigadier General Esho's appointment as Deputy Force Commander not only recognizes his exceptional military skills but also highlights the UN's commitment to diversifying its peacekeeping forces. As Brig Gen Esho assumes his role, his priority will be to strengthen the mission's mandate and ensure the safety and well-being of the local population in Western Sahara. His vision for MINURSO includes actively engaging with the Sahrawi people, fostering dialogue, and promoting trust within the communities. Brig Gen Esho firmly believes that sustainable peace can only be achieved through understanding and collaboration.

Reflecting on his accomplishment, Brigadier General Esho expressed deep gratitude for the support he has received. He emphasized the importance of diversity within global peacekeeping missions, stating that representation is essential for meaningful and lasting change. Undoubtedly, his appointment will serve as an inspiration to aspiring Nigerian military personnel and young individuals across Africa. As the first Nigerian to stand tall in the role of Deputy Force Commander in MINURSO, Brigadier General Esho is undeniably a trailblazer. His appointment not only embodies Nigeria's commitment to global peace and security but also paves the way for a more inclusive and representative future for peacekeeping missions worldwide.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 2:01am On Feb 19
jl115:
I didn't, I said "good deal" learn some comprehension.

More like a drop in the bucket learn accountability. grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 5:56am On Feb 19
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 10:47am On Feb 19
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:23pm On Feb 19
Meanwhile, in the DRC...

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:25pm On Feb 19
...last.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 5:15pm On Feb 19
Congolese special forces on the road to Sake.

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