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| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:31pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Lawag3: 1:32pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:So this prove they are not the same person? Why are you delusional. Can't you defend Islam |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:33pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21:Is it a lie that Bilal spent most of his time with Mohammed helping him to do call for prayers? Was Bilal doing call for prayers for Abubakr or was it for Mohammed? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:34pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:Are you saying that the Qur'an is impure? Did it not come out from the dirty mouths of human beings? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 2:09pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:The bible said everybody including Jesus in impure they are sinner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Why are yi changing the topic 🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Your normal routine Japa |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 2:11pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Lawag3:What did you want me to defend when everything already on plain side and you can see it from your own statement what is there to argue about.. Open your eyes an learn |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 2:11pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:Na so when you bring a lie or misconception you need to be clearified |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 2:12pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:What verse? Is the Word of God impure? Is the Spirit of God impure? When Jibril came to Mohammed, did he become impure? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 2:12pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:you said that not the Quran 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 time to change topic |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 2:13pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:I have shown you 3 different verses depicting the act and backing my claimed it's left for you to comprehend the truth |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 2:15pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:The bible actually said that not me so why are you asking of what I know off 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣 You should challenge bible naw |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 2:54pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:Fantastic reasoning. Bilal r.a called for prayers in which he too prayed and benefitted immense reward from. This is the argument a LIEING tenq uses to validate a false claim that Bilal was enslaved to Prophet Muhammad and not doing what he was happy to do haven said to Abu Bakr he wanted to be engaged in acts of Jihad rather than be a slave. In the act of calling others to pray and a means towards their individual and collective good Bilal had performed a great act of Jihad. Indeed for all that hearken to this call and pray , Bilal is rewarded. LIEING tenq hangs on to a 'undated' hadith to claim Bilal wasn't free until the prophet's death yet can't validate the claim that Bilal was allegedly loaned to Munammdgn |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Lawag3: 3:48pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:Now go to islam.com and type the question is issa of the Quran same with Jesus of the Bible. Screenshot and post the answer here. That will cure you of your delusion. No Islamic source or scholar agrees with you not even the Quran or Mohammed. So why continue the lie? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:07pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:I a have asked you to quote the passage to no avail. Then I asked you: Are you saying that the Qur'an is impure? Did it not come out from the dirty mouths of human beings? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:09pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:Sahih al-Bukhari 595 Narrated `Abdullah bin Abi Qatada: My father said, "One night we were traveling with the Prophet (ﷺ) and some people said, 'We wish that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) would take a rest along with us during the last hours of the night.' He said, 'I am afraid that you will sleep and miss the (Fajr) prayer.' Bilal said, 'I will make you get up.' So all slept and Bilal rested his back against his Rahila and he too was overwhelmed (by sleep) and slept. The Prophet (ﷺ) got up when the edge of the sun had risen and said, 'O Bilal! What about your statement?' He replied, 'I have never slept such a sleep.' The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'Allah captured your souls when He wished, and released them when He wished. O Bilal! Get up and pronounce the Adhan for the prayer.' The Prophet (ﷺ) performed ablution and when the sun came up and became bright, he stood up and prayed." |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:15pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:What was Jubril doing with his mouth on Mary's vulva? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:17pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:Did you show where Jesus was a sinner like Mohammed from the three scriptures? Is the Word of God a sinner? Is the spirit of God a sinner? What was Jibril's mouth doing on the vulva of Mary? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:20pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21:So you are aware that your hadiths are undated!? So, explain why Bilal said to Abubakr : Sahih al-Bukhari 3755 Narrated Qais: Bilal said to Abu Bakr, "If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake, then leave me for Allah's Work." |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:45pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:Was Jesus born from a woman or a man |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:47pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:So what about that What is the meaning |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:48pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:The bible said everybody from a woman is a sinner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:50pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Lawag3:The ISSA (PBUH)prophet in the Quran and the one who was sent with gospel are the same but the Roman and Paul Jesus are different there is different between Original and China made😂😂😂🤣🤣 |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:52pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:He breath into the womb🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣 Halle Fucking llujah |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 5:22pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:And he requotes the same thing [quote author=honesttalk21 post=128517778]LIEING tenq hangs on to a 'undated' hadith to claim Bilal wasn't free until the prophet's death yet can't validate the claim that Bilal was allegedly loaned to Muhammad pbuh[/quote] Where is the proof Bilal was loaned? Otherwise admit you are a pathetic liar |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 5:29pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
This hadith narrates a conversation between Bilal ibn Rabah, a close companion of the Prophet Muhammad, and Abu Bakr, who later became the first Caliph of Islam. The context of this hadith is rooted in the early days of Islam when slavery was prevalent in Arabian society before the migration to Medina. Bilal was a former slave who converted to Islam and became one of the most trusted companions of the Prophet Muhammad. In this particular hadith, Bilal is expressing his loyalty and dedication to serving Allah above all else. By saying, “If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah’s Sake, then leave me for Allah’s Work,” Bilal is emphasizing that his ultimate allegiance lies with serving Allah and fulfilling his duties as a Muslim. He is reminding Abu Bakr that if he acquired Bilal as a slave solely for personal gain or benefit, then he should treat him as such. However, if Abu Bakr’s intention was to free Bilal for the sake of Allah and to support him in his service to Islam, then Bilal would prefer to dedicate himself to serving Allah’s cause. |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 6:54pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21:The liar honesttalk21 was using an undated hadith to claim history of Bilal's freedom. Shameless! |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 6:58pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21:Liar! You think repeating a lie will convert it into the truth!? Show the hadith that fixes the context as this you claimed above Bilal was saying to Abubakr, If you claim you have bought me for Allah, then free me for Allah BUT if you bought me for yourself, then keep me for yourself. Sahih al-Bukhari 3755 Narrated Qais: Bilal said to Abu Bakr, "If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake, then leave me for Allah's Work."[/quote]Bilal was "Taqqiyaed"! He was just an ordinary deceives black slave! |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 7:01pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:Show the verse that said Jesus born fro. a woman makes him a sinner! Why are you afraid to answer this: Is the Word of God a sinner? Is the spirit of God a sinner? And What was Jibril's mouth doing on the vulva of Mary? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 7:05pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
TenQ:Was Jesus not a human? Was Jesus not born from a woman? If he is not of the two we can deduce he is not hence if he is found in the radial of the two aaawwww otilor Jesu ti lor |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 8:05pm On Feb 18, 2024*. Modified: 4:42am On Feb 25, 2024 |
TenQ:The lies of LIEING tenq have caught up with him. He says by a weird logic that a conversation between Bilal and Abu Bakr took place at a time after the death of Prophet Muhammad pbuh because he feels people will tend to back biting after the prophet pbuh had died. He fails to recognise the necessity to quickly define rules of engagement at the on set when Bilal was bought off Umayyah bin Khalaf. He goes on to say Bilal was loaned to Muhammad pbuh in his garrulous lieing gish gallop without proof. He of course is too head dip in his arrogance to see what else is to be learnt from the hadith. He who dislikes being called a liar should refrain from lying. PERIOD TenQ:He likes the sound of the arabic word Taqqiya and even attempts to make it a past tense using English. Very laughable compounding words from different languages together. He doesn't even know the meaning of Taqiyya and imagines it to be just his favourite pass time; lieing. Too bad! Go and understand the limited exception in which it is used. He is unaware or pretends to forget slavery too occured in Israelites culture and the biblical Jesus said a thing or two about this. |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 9:03pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
Expanse2020:Was Jibril not human? Why are you afraid to answer this: Is the Word of God a sinner? Is the spirit of God a sinner? And What was Jibril's mouth doing on the vulva of Mary? |
| Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 9:06pm On Feb 18, 2024 |
honesttalk21:Mr Liar Dis_Honesttalk21 Show the hadith that fixes the context as this you claimed above Bilal was saying to Abubakr, If you claim you have bought me for Allah, then free me for Allah BUT if you bought me for yourself, then keep me for yourself. Islam is a religion of cascade of lies! It seems only you doesn't know that |
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