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Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by Iamzik: 8:15am On Feb 24, 2024
TheRealOwner:
Wait o, na the wife dey work, husband make money, con go tell wife, wife vex to report give her Ogas, her Ogas con sack d wife, she con divorce husband huh

E get as this matter be o
Inside life grin grin
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by sidonlook: 8:15am On Feb 24, 2024
The woman shouldn't have been sacked though the employer wouldn't believe she is innocent.
But why file for divorce?
She lost job and also want to loose husband.
Oyinbo with their mentality.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by tochez24(m):
nairalanda1:
They will notice, and they will get you in the end.

Relocating is not as easy as you think it is when you are on the run for crime. You cannot take out more than a certain sum, your money is likely to be frozen, and the US government would be looking for you.

Seriously, watch some crime channels if you get DSTV. It is not as easy as you think.
And you think her boses are innocent??🙄

You think the world is a place of justice and fairness right?😁

My brother, rich people in this world bypass alot of law and order.... That's the only way to get rich♂️

Do You think Elon Musk is following US Constitution and became the richest man on earth?🙄

Do everything the law says and you will die of penury in this world i tell you. I strongly believe her bosses are guilty too.

My point is, her husband knew and did what her bosses knew and was probably doing too, to get rich⚠️

They only sacked her to save their faces when she reported her husband to them and her bosses knew exactly how to maneuver their way!! So there's no SEC investigation whatsoever!!!

They just sacked her and die the matter, they can't even risk any SEC investigations because they will caught too😆😅😅
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by nairalanda1(m): 8:16am On Feb 24, 2024
tuzle:
Wait, they could have just agreed that if the feds later found out, only the man will take the fall since that is what later happened. She would have just said she wasn't aware that was what he was doing and once he supports her statements won't she be let free.
Then the SEC would have told her that 'But how sure are we that you are not lying to us madam? '
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by DeepSight(m): 8:16am On Feb 24, 2024
nairalanda1:
Forget morality....she had to report. Any lawyer would have advised her to report...because SEC , if they start looking, would not believe her story that her husband was listening in on her calls without her knowledge.

It's like you don't get it....assuming SEC found out by other means, they would have accused her as an accesory. (She is the wife, therefore she must have been sharing information).

If she did not report , by now she would be on her way to jail too.
Please better pause before making presumptions because I am a lawyer myself, and an international one at that.

There are both Fifth Amendment Rights and the convention against spousal testimony both of which can be played in interesting directions.

As a matter of fact it is not a question of what the SEC will be presumed to believe. If indeed she did not divulge to her husband, she has done no wrong.

And so long as the husband did not conspire with her, he has done no wrong either because he was not an insider.

This takes deep strategic legal thinking and analysis my friend. Don't look at it with simplicity.

Now I also spoke about business and political realities for a reason. And I added wisdom. Go figure.

Also you need to stop presuming the SEC would have found out.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by sidonlook: 8:16am On Feb 24, 2024
Iamzik:
Inside life grin grin
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by DeepSight(m): 8:17am On Feb 24, 2024
nairalanda1:
Then the SEC would have told her that 'But how sure are we that you are not lying to us madam? '
There's always a trial for that. The mere question doesn't render her guilty.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by nairalanda1(m): 8:19am On Feb 24, 2024
tochez24:
And you think her boses are innocent??🙄

You think the world is a place of justice and fairness right?😁

My brother, rich people in this world bypass alot of law and order.... That's the only way to get rich♂️

Do You think Elon Musk is following US Constitution and became the richest man on earth?🙄

Do everything the law says and you will die of penury in this world i tell you. I strongly believe her bosses are guilty too.

My point is, her husband knew and did what her bosses knew and was probably doing too, to get rich⚠️

They only sacked her to save their faces and her bosses too knew exactly how to maneuver their way!! So there's no SEC investigation whatsoever!!!
The way you guys justify bad things by doing whataboutism on this site is painful to see. That is why Nigeria has no good leaders, seriously

A lot of rich people in the USA have gone to jail for insider trading, or have been made to pay heavy fines. What this man did was wrong. And yeah, just because some big people have gotten away with it does not mean that he should join them. (And many of those big people today, they often get caught tomorrow)

The man was wrong. Period. He nearly dragged his wife and his wife's company on top.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by nairalanda1(m): 8:21am On Feb 24, 2024
DeepSight:
Please better pause before making presumptions because I am a lawyer myself, and an international one at that.

There are both Fifth Amendment Rights and the convention against spousal testimony both of which can be played in interesting directions.

As a matter of fact it is not a question of what the SEC will be presumed to believe. If indeed she did not divulge to her husband, she has done no wrong.

And so long as the husband did not conspire with her, he has done no wrong either because he was not an insider.

This takes deep strategic legal thinking and analysis my friend. Don't look at it with simplicity.

Now I also spoke about business and political realities for a reason. And I added wisdom. Go figure.

Also you need to stop presuming the SEC would have found out.
The man did wrong, old boy. Don't justify it.

You are no lawyer either.

If he was as innocent as you are here trying to defend him, why is his govenrment prosecuting him.

I end it here. You guys should stop trying to justify evil.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by DSoj(m): 8:22am On Feb 24, 2024
Stupid wife
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by tuzle(m): 8:22am On Feb 24, 2024
nairalanda1:
Then the SEC would have told her that 'But how sure are we that you are not lying to us madam? '
provided she can defend herself and her husband supports her case then she is fine. I am basing this on some cases I have read about which occured in America.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by DeepSight(m): 8:26am On Feb 24, 2024
nairalanda1:
The man did wrong, old boy. Don't justify it.

You are no lawyer either.

If he was as innocent as you are here trying to defend him, why is his govenrment prosecuting him.

I end it here. You guys should stop trying to justify evil.
I repeat... I have said nothing whatsoever about morality. You claimed to understand that and yet you have raised morality twice here again. You even called it "evil."

There is a problem with that because not all legal wrong is morally evil, and this is one instance of such. There are things that are morally wrong but not legally wrong as well... And vice versa.

Evil requires that harm is inflicted on another person in some tangible way. This is not the case here.

As to me not being a lawyer, what a laugh. Do you think I need to prove that to some ignorant stranger on an anonymous platform who doesn't pay my fees. Joker.

Your analysis, understanding and presumptions are very shallow and we have not even touched the aspects of real politics, business and life wisdom involved here.

You have a small mind. A little one.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by nairalanda1(m): 8:26am On Feb 24, 2024
The way people are here justifying wrong things, it makes me think that at the end, that is why Nigerians have bad leadership.

A man listens in on his wife's calls without her knowledge. That is even kukuma a crime in many parts. He then does insider trading using the info from the calls. Another crime . He confesses to his wife, who is immediately placed in a unfortunate situation...she keeps quiet, and then the SEC suddenly finds out and she is in soup...or she reports, and mittigates the comming storm;s effect on her head.

She reported. Average Nairalander thinks she did the wrong thing...she 'betrayed her husband'. Or they should have been wise and enjoyed the money.

All I know is that if this is the average mindset of Nigerians, no wonder we never get good government. BUt then again, these are the same people who justify keeping money sent accidentally to their account as 'god blessing'.

Anyway, you cannot argue with people who think like that.

I don try!

(FIN).
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by MVLOX(m): 8:27am On Feb 24, 2024
PNomsule:
Na there u go see the worse betrayal... if I no fit trust my wife, na outsider I suppose con trust?!
That's another angle to it but I prefer it better
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by nairalanda1(m): 8:27am On Feb 24, 2024
DeepSight:
I repeat... I have said nothing whatsoever about morality. You claimed to understand that and yet you have raised morality twice here again. You even called it "evil."

There is a problem with that because not all legal wrong is morally evil, and this is one instance of such. There are things that are morally wrong but not legally wrong as well... And vice versa.

Evil requires that harm is inflicted on another person in some tangible way. This is not the case here.

As to me not being a lawyer, what a laugh. Do you think I need to prove that to some ignorant stranger on an anonymous platform who doesn't pay my fees. Joker.

Your analysis, understanding and presumptions are very shallow and we have not even touched the aspects of real politics, business and life wisdom involved here.

You have a small mind. A little one.
You are not a lawyer, and you are here justifying evil.

Better accept you are wrong for once.

If you don't , then no wahala. Life goes on. But evil must always be punished, big or small.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by TWoods(m): 8:29am On Feb 24, 2024
matify83:
What could have happened if she hadn't reported the case to bp authority leading to her sack?

Why was she against the husband's success even though she didn't willfully give out ''insider secrets'' to her husband?

This kind of husband go sabi do amebo. Must you explain how you came about privileged information that made you a millionaire?
Who ask you?

This case get as e be.
The company would have found out eventually. I work for a similar O&G, and we are required to fill out a conflict of interest form every year. That includes whether you have family working in an industry similar to ours, competitors, suppliers, or customers... and whether you or a relative may hold stock in sensitive organizations. They would have fired her had she reported her husband's stock dealings later... she had to report to save herself but ultimately lost.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by TWoods(m): 8:31am On Feb 24, 2024
ThatCEO:
Mumu woman, the fool was probably expecting her employers to celebrate her, that's why she went to ass lick corporate.

Mumu Shd have talked a lawyer first before any move. T[b]he same move she went to report, probably all her bosses r doing it.[/b]

Now she has no job, no other company will employ her, n she has no husband too.

Forget, She was planning to divorce the man normally...no be this matter cause am.
No they are not doing it. What her husband did is a federal crime. He'll be lucky to escape prison time. This isn't Nigeria.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by DeepSight(m): 8:32am On Feb 24, 2024
nairalanda1:
You are not a lawyer, and you are here justifying evil.
The same way you make this shallow assumption is the same way you have analysed this matter in a shallow fashion.

As I said, you have a little mind. A tiny one.

If you don't , then no wahala. Life goes on. But evil must always be punished, big or small.
This has nothing to do with evil. You are simply ignorant. If I was as presumptuous as you, I would think you are some deluded goody-two-shoes church goer who knows nothing of the actual meaning of good and evil.

Ol boy, good morning.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by TWoods(m): 8:33am On Feb 24, 2024
magnum247:
I honestly see nothing wrong in what he did as he was just privileged that his wife worked on the deal. A lot of people somewhere will also benefit from this kind of situation but won't go about exposing themselves. It happens in all works of life, people will always get privileged information before others and how you use it depends on you
That's the problem with Nigeria. What the man did is a federal crime in the US. He has already been convicted and most likely will see prison time. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/insider-trading-husband-illegally-profits-17m-after-using-wifes-private-company
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by alfredilly: 8:35am On Feb 24, 2024
immortalcrown:
Gagantuan gaga!

Self-centred commenters below claim the woman worked against her husband's success. Will your judgement be the same if you are the woman's employer? Will you say the same thing if your neighbour becomes like the man against you and a company you work for? So, because he married her makes it wrong for her to say the necessary truth? You people suffer from split personality disorder. Being ethical is a crime to you when it doesn't favour your interest.

The man betrayed his wife's trust. He makes her regret not treating him like an outsider or a stranger in the marriage.

I sincerely condemn his action. The wife felt safe in the presence of her husband but later got disappointed in him.
My only question is what has the company got to lose in that situation? And why did the woman decide to lose from both end?
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by DeepSight(m): 8:35am On Feb 24, 2024
TWoods:
The company would have found out eventually. I work for a similar O&G, and we are required to fill out a conflict of interest form every year. That includes whether you have family working in an industry similar to ours, competitors, suppliers, or customers... and whether you or a relative may hold stock in sensitive organizations. They would have fired her had she reported her husband's stock dealings later... she had to report to save herself but ultimately lost.
Just for academic reasons, let's say, for the sake of argument, have you carefully considered these points -

1. She says she did not divulge anything to her husband

2. Her husband is not an insider

3. What if a stranger overheard her and made the same investment

Please dwell carefully on these before responding.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by tochez24(m): 8:36am On Feb 24, 2024
nairalanda1:
The way you guys justify bad things by doing whataboutism on this site is painful to see. That is why Nigeria has no good leaders, seriously

A lot of rich people in the USA have gone to jail for insider trading, or have been made to pay heavy fines. What this man did was wrong. And yeah, just because some big people have gotten away with it does not mean that he should join them. (And many of those big people today, they often get caught tomorrow)

The man was wrong. Period. He nearly dragged his wife and his wife's company on top.
You're missing something bro...

I'm not justifying a bad thing or what the man did, I'm just opening your eyes to the other side of the coin⚠️

Remember I began my comment by condemning what the man did♂️

But with all said, life is always black and white you know, it will never be plain white only... Poor people will always keep rules while rich people will always bypass them.

It's what it's⚠️
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by Onewazobia(m): 8:36am On Feb 24, 2024
Thou these people may not be religious but their instincts of integrity baffled me.
Can an average cleric wife do this?
I doubt
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by nairalanda1(m): 8:37am On Feb 24, 2024
tochez24:
You're missing something bro...

I'm not justifying a bad thing or what the man did, I'm just opening your eyes to the other side of the coin⚠️

Remember I began my comment by condemning what the man did♂️

But with all said, life is always black and white you know, it will never be plain white only... Poor people will always keep rules while rich people will always bypass them.

It's what it's⚠️
Even then, the right things were done.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by nairalanda1(m): 8:39am On Feb 24, 2024
DeepSight:
The same way you make this shallow assumption is the same way you have analysed this matter in a shallow fashion.

As I said, you have a little mind. A tiny one.



This has nothing to do with evil. You are simply ignorant. If I was as presumptuous as you, I would think you are some deluded goody-two-shoes church goer who knows nothing of the actual meaning of good and evil.

Ol boy, good morning.
K.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by talk2hb1(m): 8:39am On Feb 24, 2024
immortalcrown:
Says a self-centred person.
Your View, Your Choice.
My View, My Choice.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by FxMasterz: 8:43am On Feb 24, 2024
JigsawKillah:
You'd have to torture a confession out of me though. I don't blame the wife. But the man should have kept his mouth shut and spend lowkey.
He thought his wife loved him and would therefore celebrate his success and admire his wisdom.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by Musisco01(m): 8:44am On Feb 24, 2024
These are a jewish couple, betrayal runs in their DNA
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by TWoods(m): 8:44am On Feb 24, 2024
DeepSight:
Please better pause before making presumptions because I am a lawyer myself, and an international one at that.

There are both Fifth Amendment Rights and the convention against spousal testimony both of which can be played in interesting directions.

As a matter of fact it is not a question of what the SEC will be presumed to believe. If indeed she did not divulge to her husband, she has done no wrong.

And so long as the husband did not conspire with her, he has done no wrong either because he was not an insider.

This takes deep strategic legal thinking and analysis my friend. Don't look at it with simplicity.

Now I also spoke about business and political realities for a reason. And I added wisdom. Go figure.

Also you need to stop presuming the SEC would have found out.
There is zero wisdom here my friend. Let's break this down:

Working for an O&G myself, I know for a fact that considering her role (she's in a senior director position), she would be required to report ANY conflict of interest - including family members who own or are senior directors in companies that could be competitors, suppliers, customers, part of a JV or merger. She would also be required to report if she or a family member holds shares in such companies. The 5th amendment DOES NOT apply here. That her husband bought and sold shares in the other company would be easily found out. So she would be in trouble for lying on her conflict of interest form to protect her husband. That would have earned her a firing and the company would have reported her to the SEC for insider trading. She reported on her own, hoping to at least save her skin. It didn't work.

The husband is technically an insider, by virtue of his wife. The only way he was privy to the merger information was because his wife was involved in the merger. That is a crime. To say he has done no wrong is laughable.

US congressmen have gone to prison for insider trading.
Re: US Man Accused Of Making $1.8m From Listening To His Wife's Remote Work Calls by immortalcrown(m): 8:45am On Feb 24, 2024
talk2hb1:
Your View, Your Choice. My View, My Choice.
True. But objectivism can't bow to subjectivism.
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