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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 7:35pm On Mar 05
Kog45:
The question here is it right for a national team coach to take cut from his player transfer? YES or NO


And from the report posted here it was clearly stated, that the while coaching crew where GIVEN, that includes Emma himself,

So where did he demand/take it from

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:41pm On Mar 05
Danielnino00:


You don't have any shame.... see all the energy you're using to criticize a young man who is just trying to earn a living from his sweat. Meanwhile, some of the innit boys that you tried to force down our throat (who you ironically used to boast are better than some of our homegrown players) aren't doing any better for themselves. Ejaria and Josh Onomah for instance are club-less.. Fred Onyedima barely plays at Luton.. Dominic Iorfa is still languishing in the lower division of English football.. If their career gets better now, you will not let us rest with epistle of how you ate akpu and egusi soup with their families and how well you know them..

Hate is an irrational sentiment most times prejudice as well. With regards to yourself your dislike and negative bias have blinded your reasoning and befuddled your brain.

You are having too much bitter leaf ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒฟ soup ๐Ÿฒ with stale fish and contaminated Kpomo. Please change what you are eating, I would recommend Edikang Ikong ( goat ๐Ÿ meat and okporoko) is best, with pounded yam.

Oviemuno Ejaria
Josh Onomah
Fred Onyedinma
Dominic Iorfa

First of all I haven't asked or recommended any of these players above as current prospects for the SE in some cases for over 4 years. So what exactly is your point โ“

When a player is not performing you move on and you look for those who are. You don't hold on to delusional
nostalgic Idea that they are exceptional and very good when they are simply NOT AT ALL.

But what we have here is a continuous haranguing day in day out week after week year after year about Nwakali, exceptional talent, best midfield incredible long ball passing, etc . He is dead on arrival and had been for over 7 years, he hit his peak in youth football โšฝ U17, 8 years ago.

And you are calling me biased, a big black ๐Ÿ–ค pot calling the kettle ๐Ÿˆโ€โฌ› black. You are a bigoted hypocrite.

You are shameless , muddying the waters with evasion tactics, irrelevant generalisations and no specifics. Look at the nonsensical proposition you are making in bold. Be specific stop ๐Ÿ›‘ ranting like a woman โ™€๏ธ scorned.

You responded to my view on Nwakali, so let's make the comparison with Nwakali.

If all these players were in the Portuguese league they would be in the top teams. Not in the cemetery ๐Ÿชฆ of relegation with Chavez FC earnings peanuts ๐Ÿฅœ.

You are telling bare faced Lies.

Dominic is playing for Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship ๐Ÿ† not in the lower division of English football โšฝ. He earns 10 times more than Nwakali.

Fred Onyedinma was sent to revive his injury prone career with Rotherham after 16 game's two goals two assists he is injured again. And back to Luton he is on ยฃ20K a week.

Josh Onomah has no club but if he went to the Portuguese league he would be a baller. He has earned over ยฃ8 million in wages in his short career so far. With shrewd investment he is still rolling in๐Ÿ’ท๐Ÿ’ท๐Ÿ’ท without working.

Oviemuno Ejaria had just been too petulant and contentious and has earned himself a bad reputation as a trouble maker. Once again too much money in the bank ๐Ÿฆ to go and play for peanut in a dead poorly paid league in Europe. If he was in Portugal he would be like Pogba.

So what exactly is Nwakali doing better than these players you mentioned please don't deviate โ“โ“

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:45pm On Mar 05
AndSunGorilla:

My answer is NO. I dont think it's ethical and also I think Westerhoff also did it and that doesnโ€™t make it right.

It's a breach of the FIFA rules and criminally illegal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:47pm On Mar 05
mostob:
This is a two-way question. There are lot of bonuses and commissions attached to a player's transfer. From what I heard and read, parents do benefit from their son's transfer depending on the negotiation. So if the player's agent decides to add the coach among the beneficiaries of these bonuses and commissions, I don't think it is wrong. In this scenario, I think it's a gift.

However if the team coach engaged in something shady in order to have a share of the transfer fee, that is unethical.

Dude stop ๐Ÿ›‘ being naive and using Nigeria corruption morality to.justify what cannot be justified.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 8:18pm On Mar 05
Ndidi and iheanacho start from the bench for Leicester.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:13pm On Mar 05
Very well said!
kennysville:


When we finally do get it that being white does not equate being smart, we will begin to move forward with giant strides. A white man changes the game and calls it modern. Changes the rules of the game in a way that he only understands and asks you in other parts of the world to leave your ideologies cos his own is better. I have always been a fan of originality. In other words stop this copy copy. Even if you are gonna copy, simply adapt the copy to your original identity. That way you become better.nowaday offsides are measured by micrometer screw gauge to the hundredth of a millimeter. That one na football?

When the narrative suits, oyinbo man will interpret the rules correctly. When agenda no agend, they screw you over. Case in point the World Cup group stage match of Nigeria and Argentina where I think Rojo was adjudged to have handled the ball in the vital box. Fast forward into epl, the same call resulted to penalty. Una go say shebi na human error. An error Naija paid dearly for by exiting.

Blaise Matuidi on Onazi nko? But if na Ronaldo one monkey ass African tackle like that, na straight red.

Truly ... oyinbo to se pencil lo se eraser....that is.. Na white man wey create pencil also create eraser


Moral of the epistle, have your own philosophy and stick with it no matter what

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:42pm On Mar 05
komekn:


It's a breach of the FIFA rules and criminally illegal.

LOL.

Hope you know the same Emmanuel Amunike has been a member of multiple FIFA and CAF technical committees and knows the rule miles more than you.

Go and research development fees.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 10:45pm On Mar 05
charlesemeka85:
Amuneke na crook na, the major reason why I donโ€™t want him close to the super eagles

If he happens to emerge as the next coach of the team I wonโ€™t be surprised seeing funny names from obscure leagues and the npfl getting regular invites to the super eagles camp

That guy is an engunge coach that's why I pity those canvassing for him to be super eagles coach

Then you all will say bye bye to foreign born lads because they won't be able to grease palms

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:46pm On Mar 05
komekn:


Dude stop ๐Ÿ›‘ being naive and using Nigeria corruption morality to.justify what cannot be justified.


You are the naive one here. Arsenal read the contract and paid the money. You don't know anything more than them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:59pm On Mar 05
humility33:


That guy is an engunge coach that's why I pity those canvassing for him to be super eagles coach

Then you all will say bye bye to foreign born lads because they won't be able to grease palms
Read the article. It is the academy that chose to give him the money because they know the role he played and the money was for the coaching crew and not Amunike alone. This was after the tournament. So it was not a case of collecting money to play a player.

Finally, a player he worked on for about four years became the best player of the competition. If that does not qualify for developmental fee, what does?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 11:09pm On Mar 05
From the look of things it seems we may have to forgo this next international break cos coach we no get, friendly match opponent we no get. Maybe the boys sef should rest up for June.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 1:04am On Mar 06
komekn:


He who not and knows that not is a wise, but he who knows not but thinks he knows ๐Ÿ˜ž is FOOL.

Everybody is essentially anonymous and you think ๐Ÿค” you know what is in their minds. You are delusional.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 1:19am On Mar 06
How was Amunike part of Nwakali's development?
Is he the owner of the club or part of the club's coaching team? The club putting his name (a National team coach) is a serious indictment.
It shows he selected the player based on financial gain! Period!
You've been very vocal in criticizing the current admin but you're here defending a concrete corruption case. Wow!
TheGoodJoe:

Read the article. It is the academy that chose to give him the money because they know the role he played and the money was for the coaching crew and not Amunike alone. This was after the tournament. So it was not a case of collecting money to play a player.

Finally, a player he worked on for about four years became the best player of the competition. If that does not qualify for developmental fee, what does?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:11am On Mar 06
Marjoribanks:
How was Amunike part of Nwakali's development?
Is he the owner of the club or part of the club's coaching team? The club putting his name (a National team coach) is a serious indictment.
It shows he selected the player based on financial gain! Period!
You've been very vocal in criticizing the current admin but you're here defending a concrete corruption case. Wow!
Very well said Dr. Infact the nurturing argument is "interesting".
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:11am On Mar 06
Marjoribanks:
How was Amunike part of Nwakali's development?
Is he the owner of the club or part of the club's coaching team? The club putting his name (a National team coach) is a serious indictment.
It shows he selected the player based on financial gain! Period!
You've been very vocal in criticizing the current admin but you're here defending a concrete corruption case. Wow!

Development fee.

It was not only Amunike but the whole coaching crew for their role played in the development of the player.

Development fee.

Development fee.

Development fee.

Not only Amunike but the whole coaching crew.

Amunike and the coaching scouted the player and impacted a lot that led to his development.

Na wa.

There is nothing like corruption. This was after the tournament and it is the whole coaching crew.

Haha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:16am On Mar 06
Marjoribanks:
How was Amunike part of Nwakali's development?
Is he the owner of the club or part of the club's coaching team? The club putting his name (a National team coach) is a serious ind isictment.
It shows he selected the player based on financial gain! Period!
You've been very vocal in criticizing the current admin but you're here defending a concrete corruption case. Wow!

https://www.tiktok.com/@a2zfootballhub/video/7311474505799486725

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Watch Osimhen talk about Amunike while receiving his African Player of the year award. This man was critical in their development.

If Amunike wanted Egunje, he would not collect boys without money.

He scouted cream talents and developed them. Amunike always acknowledged his coaching crew too.

Development fee is in every contract and the receiving party gives that to people they know that were critical in the development.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by villagereporter(m): 6:27am On Mar 06
Marjoribanks:
How was Amunike part of Nwakali's development?
Is he the owner of the club or part of the club's coaching team? The club putting his name (a National team coach) is a serious indictment.
It shows he selected the player based on financial gain! Period!
You've been very vocal in criticizing the current admin but you're here defending a concrete corruption case. Wow!
.

Good morning sir. On a lighter mood, Amunike is a cousin to the club owner and elder brother to Nwakali grin grin grin

Seriously, is it not probably possible that, there must have been an underhand dealings b4 d world cup to induced his inclusion in the team?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by villagereporter(m): 6:44am On Mar 06
TheGoodJoe:


Development fee.

It was not only Amunike but the whole coaching crew for their role played in the development of the player.

Development fee.

Development fee.

Development fee.

Not only Amunike but the whole coaching crew.

Amunike and the coaching scouted the player and impacted a lot that led to his development.

Na wa.

There is nothing like corruption. This was after the tournament and it is the whole coaching crew.

Haha.
.

I want to ask in a lay man's language. Did Amunike and d coaching crew collected Development Fee on all d players signed after d world cup.

Can fifa rules that back it up be quoted, like in the Article A of the FIFA rule............ blah blah.

Finally if there is/are no regulation(s) that back up dat Development Fee, then it is a serious indictment on Amunike and we need him not near the SE

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:13am On Mar 06
villagereporter:
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I want to ask in a lay man's language. Did Amunike and d coaching crew collected Development Fee on all d players signed after d world cup.

Can fifa rules that back it up be quoted, like in the Article A of the FIFA rule............ blah blah.

Finally if there is/are no regulation(s) that back up dat Development Fee, then it is a serious indictment on Amunike and we need him not near the SE

You bring report to counter the point.

The point is simple and there is zero indictment.


This was a contract thing. The academy. That is the base of his development gets the bulk of his money. Now in the contract, there is a part for a 5% development fee. That is, for outsider(s) that played key role in the players development.

Arsenal wrote the contract. And the club has to put a name. They picked Amunike and his coaching crew because of the key role he played in his development.

As for collecting from all the players, it is up to the selling party to decide who gets development fee. It is not rocket science. If the boy was training in one academy before moving to the selling party, the club can put that party.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:17am On Mar 06
villagereporter:
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Good morning sir. On a lighter mood, Amunike is a cousin to the club owner and elder brother to Nwakali grin grin grin

Seriously, is it not probably possible that, there must have been an underhand dealings b4 d world cup to induced his inclusion in the team?

The guy was the best player of the competition. How can you say underhand dealing again? Maybe underhand dealing for Osimhen too.

Haha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 7:45am On Mar 06
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TheGoodJoe:

Read the article. It is the academy that chose to give him the money because they know the role he played and the money was for the coaching crew and not Amunike alone. This was after the tournament. So it was not a case of collecting money to play a player.

Finally, a player he worked on for about four years became the best player of the competition. If that does not qualify for developmental fee, what does?
and so what? With your last paragraph it shows how you can endorse corruption simply because it produce one or two fair results. You need to do better

If Amunike was really good he won't have been unemployed. Nigeria wouldve poach him somewhere and even pay for his release clause

He is an average coach at best only motivated by how much he will make
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:00am On Mar 06
humility33:
I and so what? With your last paragraph it shows how you can endorse corruption simply because it produce one or two fair results. You need to do better

If Amunike was really good he won't have been unemployed. Nigeria wouldve poach him somewhere and even pay for his release clause

He is an average coach at best only motivated by how much he will make

This one is just a rant. When you have points, let me know.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:04am On Mar 06
superbloke:


While I understand your point, my point is that VO is not someone who will just go there and expect things to just go his way. He is very adaptable and trust me, if he realizes there something he needs to improve for him to become more relevant in his team, he will do it. You can not tell me with the skills and abilities he already possesses, he will not be useful to the team. Less skillful players have played or are playing in Arsenal and heaven has not fallen.

Arsenal don't necessarily have a point man maybe because they don't have anyone who can play that role effectively. Man City were essentially the same way before Haaland came. If Arsenal or PSG decide to go for him, it is because he has what they want. They are not buying him to see and assess if he has what they want. If their scouts and managers say he does, why should we question them for that decision?

By the way, you didn't answer my question. If VO were to leave Napoli at the end of the season, which team do you think would be best for him considering his abilities and skills as you've stated?

Very simple a team that will him the center point of activity a quintessential number 9.

If Kane leaves Bayern as it is rumoured I would say Bayern Munich.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:07am On Mar 06
Kog45:
Taiwo Awoniyi is down to earth boy just like Osimhen,not a big deal if kokmne know him wella cuz he is accessible and easy to relate with due to his background.

During vacation we met in his parents new house in Tanke area Ilorin which is not far from where i built my house and see how old friends Dey enter Dey goโ€ฆ.fact the boy Dey enter local buka go eat and a must for him to visit his childhood area in Agbo Oba daily cuz na there he Dey feel at home not even GRA in Tanke.

So knowing Awoniyi not a big deal,in fact he will like to relate with kokmne being a Nigerian and learn more about UK from Egbon kokmne.


I will add sometime else he is ,Sold out for Christ, he is not just a Church goer. His humility enables him to learn and improve all the time.

Quite spoken and very respectful.

I knew him when he was at Liverpool.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:10am On Mar 06
TheGoodJoe:


Crook ke.

A man developed a player for about four years and he is a crook because the academy included his name for developmental fee which is usual for those who helped develop a player. Please be logical.

Sometimes it's better to keep QUITE and people may assume you have substantive knowledge. But I'm talking you are exposing your completely lack of knowledge.

You are using Aba market methodology to reason the structure and legal framework that governs Football.

Na wah๐Ÿค๐Ÿค๐Ÿค๐Ÿค
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:22am On Mar 06
Kog45:
Oga kokmne you be Elder here o,pls always strict to football and forget these thieving APC,PDP and LP cuz last election was pure tribal and all parties are involvedโ€ฆimagine Tinubu got 75% from his region,Obi got 90% from his region and Atiku got 65% from his side,even Kwakwaso got 70% from his state.

Nigeria politics is a politics of division,hatred and manipulations and is for people who believed so much in cheating and only way out is me and you,nobody else.

Imagine people are still voting for two cancerous parties(APC and PDP)despite the suffering.

Bro I was in Lagos, not in the high brow of Ikoyi or Banana island but Ajah. So I am on ground level.

I watched the wide scale premeditated open season broad daylight rigging in the Election. Then add the disenfranchised voters that were denied access by an army of well orchestrated thugs with the support of the police ๐Ÿš“.

South South voted for Peter Obi in mass although Wike truncated the process in Rivers blatantly.They are not his region.

But let's leave that, your votes don't count and even more so now. Every institution that is supposed to be a check โœ”๏ธ and balance โš–๏ธ. Has been totally compromised.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:23am On Mar 06
villagereporter:
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I want to ask in a lay man's language. Did Amunike and d coaching crew collected Development Fee on all d players signed after d world cup.

Can fifa rules that back it up be quoted, like in the Article A of the FIFA rule............ blah blah.

Finally if there is/are no regulation(s) that back up dat Development Fee, then it is a serious indictment on Amunike and we need him not near the SE

Agreed ๐Ÿ’ฏ
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:25am On Mar 06
TheGoodJoe:


LOL.

Hope you know the same Emmanuel Amunike has been a member of multiple FIFA and CAF technical committees and knows the rule miles more than you.

Go and research development fees.

You have no Idea.

Arsenal is bound by FIFA regulations and will make payment to one authorised entity. How that entity decides to distribute the money is entirely up to them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:52am On Mar 06
komekn:


You have no Idea.

Arsenal is bound by FIFA regulations and will make payment to one authorised entity. How that entity decides to distribute the money is entirely up to them.

It does not work like that. There is a bidding contract to multiple parties, including agent fees on the contract. Stop spreading false information.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:54am On Mar 06
komekn:


You have no Idea.

Arsenal is bound by FIFA regulations and will make payment to one authorised entity. How that entity decides to distribute the money is entirely up to them.
And if that entity decides to reward the parents and the academy, who TF are you to question them?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:55am On Mar 06
komekn:


Sometimes it's better to keep QUITE and people may assume you have substantive knowledge. But I'm talking you are exposing your completely lack of knowledge.

You are using Aba market methodology to reason the structure and legal framework that governs Football.

Na wah๐Ÿค๐Ÿค๐Ÿค๐Ÿค

I think you meant QUIET. By the way, this is coming from someone who had no idea about developmental fees. You have been exposed multiple times here. You did not even know trainee coaches do thesis and thought it was just a simple multiple choice question test. grin

Now you want to claim substantive knowledge.

Abeggi.

We are talking of things I knew decades ago here.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:02am On Mar 06
TheGoodJoe:


I think you meant QUIET. By the way, this is coming from someone who had no idea about developmental fees. You have been exposed multiple times here. You did not even know trainee coaches do thesis and thought it was just a simple multiple choice question test. grin

Now you want to claim substantive knowledge.

Abeggi.

We are talking of things I knew decades ago here.
I brought this up for opinions.Pls go read my original post on how the transfer money was shared

The stellar group rejected the idea of paying Nwakali family due to Amuneke interference during Chidi Nwakali transfer.

The developmental fee was for the academy and two academies were involved.The contract paper did not included Amuneke cuz the 5% he got was internal arrangement.

My question is it right for Amuneke to get a cut and did he got the same cut from Osimhen and other under 17 transfer fees.

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