MaxInDHouse:


So in a nutshell he couldn't see what is closer to him which could even affect his status because if i'm a member of his church i will start doubting him the very day his son died and he couldn't raise him neither could he see it coming yet he claimed God visited him to drink tea!

and you claim that you serve GOD with what you just wrote. It is GOD that decides what he reveal to men. You Jehovah Witness are so pathetic.

Dtruthspeaker:


Oh, you are right about the op. But i did attack Adeboye, here only stated a fact already known by the public to make my point.

He's known to say rubbish anyway, so I wouldn't disagree with that.

MaxInDHouse:


So in a nutshell he couldn't see what is closer to him which could even affect his status because if i'm a member of his church i will start doubting him the very day his son died and he couldn't raise him neither could he see it coming yet he claimed God visited him to drink tea!

Why haven't you left your organization for failed prophecies? Your GB used 'New Light' to scam you people of their inadequacies.


Isn't the same way Adeboye is claiming special with God your your GB and organization iare claiming?
Hypocrisy of highest order.

paxonel:
so, what's the point for the likes of Adeboye doing new year prophecies since they cannot see the future like anyone else?

Probably out of a mere projection, Baba normally postulate goods things toward a new year as a father in lord and always ask people to pray against bad ones but people are so quick in tagging it prophecies.

I can boldly say it again, no one see anything. Humans and nature are dynamic and extremely subject to change. Nothing is programmed anywhere, life goes as you view it, people are made base on their genetic composition. Society, culture, climate, believes system can also determine, mode and influence Humans.

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Probably out of a mere projection, Baba normally postulate goods things toward a new year as a father in lord and always ask people to pray against bad ones but people are so quick in tagging it prophecies.[/quote[ ok

I can boldly say it again, no one see anything. Humans and nature are dynamic and extremely subject to change. Nothing is programmed anywhere, life goes as you view it, people are made base on their genetic composition. Society, culture, climate, believes system can also determine, mode and influence Humans.

Exactly

ajog1:

You sounding naive right now, or tryna misinform folks. What!
Even scientists with all her factuality and logic now say theres a meta-physical realm.
If you had said no human can accurately foresee future events 'everytime,' then it would b absolutely correct.
Yes, we need to hone our hone our minds for analytical thinking.

You have said it yourself, the fact that no one can accurately forseen future events made it non reliable or mere predictions. Why would I believe what is not accurate in the first place, it means, it can go either ways.

And yes, I agreed there is meta- physically realm, and the only thing that made me believed so is DREAM hypothesis. I believe if I can see myself in another realm or world while physical asleep through draam, there should be invisible objects or lives outside of our physical realm.

LordIsaac:
Why didn’t he also foresee the death of the poor men and women in the North-East? I marvel at the kinds of questions we ask at times!

As a pastor, if bad things happen to your members without your knowledge, resign. You are an impostor.

Bankowner:
Who told you Herbert was Pastor Adeboye's spiritual son?
Must GO's name be dragged into everything?
He's human, not God so has his limitations.

It is not about human or God. If that man has invested so much in that church, God suppose Sabi am.

Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3: 7

His local pastor suppose know even if he hasn't invested much in the church.

MaxInDHouse:
Did he see the death of his own son Dare?

Guys these Yahoo big boys are just scammers they can't see anything because when it comes to future events God only reveal what has to do with His Kingdom and purposes not just every event that's going on in the world.

What concerns the true God with people who has nothing to do with His kingdom and purpose?

God reveals everything including eating food you are not supposed to eat. That you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It is abnormal for somethings to happen in church with the pastor's knowledge.

Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7

What is even the work of the holy spirit?

He will reveal to you things to come. No be only tongues he sabi

Beautifulday:


As a pastor, if bad things happen to your members without your knowledge, resign. You are an impostor.

False doctrine. No man is God…Pastors and Members die everyday…it does not reduce the move of God on earth. There’s more to pastoral ministry than foreseeing that a rich man would die! Even if they knew, they can only pray in secret, and IF GOD ONLY wills, the cup will be taken away.

Look for a Bible Believing Church to correct your misconception of what true Christianity is. It is why Paul says, “for me, to die is gain…!”

LordIsaac:

False doctrine. No man is God…Pastors and Members die everyday…it does not reduce the move of God on earth. There’s more to pastoral ministry than foreseeing that a rich man would die! Even if they knew, they can only pray in secret, and IF GOD ONLY wills, the cup will be taken away.

Look for a Bible Believing Church to correct your misconception of what true Christianity is. It is why Paul says, “for me, to die is gain…!”

It is abnormal for a pastor not to have prior knowledge of the death of his members.

Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7

It is also abnormal for a child of God to die a shameful death.

Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. Luke 13:33

This is Paul when he was in harms way

And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judaea a certain prophet, named Agabus.
And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.
Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 21: 10 - 13


Paul choose to make the journey not because God was silent. The people didn't not pray but sought to stop Paul from embarking on the journey.

One of the job of the Holy spirit is to save you from harm.

The Holy spirit left Saul but look at the lamentations of David

Ye mountains of Gilboa, let there be no dew, neither let there be rain, upon you, nor fields of offerings: for there the shield of the mighty is vilely cast away, the shield of Saul, as though he had not been anointed with oil. 2 Samuel 1: 21


David said, the shield of Saul was shamefully cast away as if he had not been anointed with oil.

David will be shocked at the way people who call themselves children of God die these days.

Beautifulday:


It is abnormal for a pastor not to have prior knowledge of the death of his members.

Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7

And how are you privy to that fact…that he doesn’t know? I’ll further reiterate, Jesus knew Judas was a thief… Leadership demands that you talk to God in secret. If he had come out to say openly that Wigwe would die on so so date and so so time by so so means and no man can change it, I’m very sure your narrative will be different about the Pastor!

LordIsaac:

And how are you privy to that fact…that he doesn’t know? I’ll further reiterate, Jesus knew Judas was a thief… Leadership demands that you talk to God in secret. If he had come out to say openly that Wigwe would die on so so date and so so time by so so means and no man can change it, I’m very sure your narrative will be different about the Pastor!

If he knew, he won't embark on that journey unless he outrightly want to disobey God.

God reveals events and season not time. But he will tell you what to do to escape harm or whatever is coming your way. But he will never tell you the time it will come.

The bible said, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Roman 8:14

Too many hypocrite in Christianity. They are not here, they are not there.

Beautifulday:


If he knew, he won't embark on that journey unless he outrightly want to disobey God.

God reveals events and season not time. But he will tell you what to do to escape harm or whatever is coming your way. But he will never tell you the time it will come.

The bible said, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Roman 8:14

Too many hypocrite in Christianity. They are not here, they are not there.

Paul was told what would happen if he went on a journey, he went anyway. There’s more to ministry that you don’t know…God will help you to understand mysteries!

LordIsaac:
■ Paul was told what would happen if he went on a journey, he went anyway. There’s more to ministry that you don’t know…God will help you to understand mysteries!

Stop deceiving yourself with these delusions. Your mogs are not prophets of the God of Israel. God of Israel disclosed details of events to them via dreams and visions. Your mog there cannot even see his own toes let alone what is to come.

As for your statement concerning Paul, there is a good reason why Paul did not take the advice of the prophets of his time, and the reason is revealed to those who truly know the God of Israel in that same Scripture you quote from. Open that book and read it for your own self so you can learn the Truth of God as opposed to the lies you have been fed by these liars who call themselves mogs.

LordIsaac:
■ Paul was told what would happen if he went on a journey, he went anyway. There’s more to ministry that you don’t know…God will help you to understand mysteries!

Stop using that which you don't rightly understand, because you have no desire to, as excuse for the lies of these men who pretend to be of a God they know nothing of. These men have made a career of lying to you lot, year after year, yet you keep taking it on yourselves to create excuses for them each and every time, much like broken souls desperate for attachment. Don't you see that they prey on your inner issues -- vulnerabilities?

MightySparrow:

Why haven't you left your organization for failed prophecies? Your GB used 'New Light' to scam you people of their inadequacies.
Isn't the same way Adeboye is claiming special with God your your GB and organization iare claiming?
Hypocrisy of highest order.

So God's Kingdom means false prophecy shey?

How come you claim to believe in John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth both said "God's kingdom is at hand" some 2,000 years ago and till today we are still expecting God's kingdom? Matthew 3:2; 4:17

The Governing Body keep announcing the King and his kingdom every year {Revelations 11:15} so if you think that is false prophecy then go and trash your Bible because that is the sole message of the Bible Christ in heaven keeps sending signal to remaining ones of the 144,000 corulers on planet earth that is why God's earthly organization will continue to announce it until the kingdom come! Matthew 24:14

What you.people are doing in attacking this man, at this time, is VERY UNFAIR, EVIL AND WRONG.What you.people are doing in attacking this man, at this time, is VERY UNFAIR, EVIL AND WRONG....

MaxInDHouse:


So God's Kingdom means false prophecy shey?

How come you claim to believe in John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth both said "God's kingdom is at hand" some 2,000 years ago and till today we are still expecting God's kingdom? Matthew 3:2; 4:17

The Governing Body keep announcing the King and his kingdom every year {Revelations 11:15} so if you think that is false prophecy then go and trash your Bible because that is the sole message of the Bible Christ in heaven keeps sending signal to remaining ones of the 144,000 corulers on planet earth that is why God's earthly organization will continue to announce it until the kingdom come! Matthew 24:14

What about the house your organization built for Abraham?

I assume your local pastor or imaam will know when you'll die. Except you don't do anything for the church or mosque.

Beautifulday:


It is not about human or God. If that man has invested so much in that church, God suppose Sabi am.

Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3: 7

His local pastor suppose know even if he hasn't invested much in the church.

Bankowner:
I assume your local pastor or imaam will know when you'll die. Except you don't do anything for the church or mosque.

How can they know these things when they are all equally lies and deceivers masquerading as prophets sent by the God of Israel?

MightySparrow:

What about the house your organization built for Abraham?

Think about this statement made by one of Jesus' disciples after seeing the sign from heaven regarding Jesus and God's kingdom.

“Lord, it is fine for us to be here. If you wish, I will erect three tents here, one for you, one for Moses, and one for E·liʹjah.” Matthew 17:4

If Jesus wasn't present physically anymore or didn't take them away from that spot do you think they will not build those tents out of joy?

Well that's the joy of seeing signs that majority of mankind can't see and Jesus never rebuked them for such joy so if you think God's people are evil for building mansions in anticipation of the resurrection that shows you lack faith and appreciation for spiritual things.

God's people have always been expecting the promises of God to be fulfilled and God has never ever condemned them for their anxiety about His kingdom!

MaxInDHouse:

Think about this statement made by one of Jesus' disciples after seeing the sign from heaven regarding Jesus and God's kingdom.

“Lord, it is fine for us to be here. If you wish, I will erect three tents here, one for you, one for Moses, and one for E·liʹjah.” Matthew 17:4

If Jesus wasn't present physically anymore or didn't take them away from that spot do you think they will not build those tents out of joy?

Well that's the joy of seeing signs that majority of mankind can't see and Jesus never rebuked them for such joy so if you think God's people are evil for building mansions in anticipation of the resurrection that shows you lack faith and appreciation for spiritual things.

God's people have always been expecting the promises of God to be fulfilled and God has never ever condemned them for their anxiety about His kingdom!

Is this digression an attempt to dodge questions or usual dishonesty in admitting the truth?

MightySparrow:

Is this digression an attempt to dodge questions or usual dishonesty in admitting the truth?

What truth?

That faithful servants of God always anticipate the fulfillment of God's promises with their actions or they just say it without acting in line with what they say?

MaxInDHouse:


What truth?

That faithful servants of God always anticipate the fulfillment of God's promises with their actions or they just say it without acting in line with what they say?

Get back online. What is the difference in the claim of Adeboye as being special to God and your GB making you believe your are special imperfect organization?

MightySparrow:

Get back online. What is the difference in the claim of Adeboye as being special to God and your GB making you believe your are special imperfect organization?

Difference!

He is saying things but his followers aren't acting in line with what he's saying so there is nothing tangible in his teachings.

GB is speaking and millions of their followers are actively doing what they're saying!

MaxInDHouse:


Difference!

He is saying things but his followers aren't acting in line with what he's saying so there is nothing tangible in his teachings.

GB is speaking and millions of their followers are actively doing what they're saying!

So by following you admit the errors of your GB, why haven't you left the organization?

yemmit90:


No human has the ability to forseen the future event, you can only predicts on the basis of current circumstances but you will never know exactly what is going to happen.

The earlier Nigerians understand that a man is better off being logically sounds than being dogma, the better for us. Religions are only good because it gives hope to pacify already troubled minds, but amount to nothing in terms of humans cognitive development.

at the bolded that is not true from my own personal doings

Redoil:


at the bolded that is not true from my own personal doings

Can you or know someone who can see future events?

MightySparrow:

So by following you admit the errors of your GB, why haven't you left the organization?

You're the one seeing error just as Jews in the first century keep seeing error in whatever the Christ Jesus did but as for us we see God's word coming to fulfilment through His faithful and discreet slave: the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses!

MaxInDHouse:


You're the one seeing error just as Jews in the first century keep seeing error in whatever the Christ Jesus did but as for us we see God's word coming to fulfilment through His faithful and discreet slave: the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Don't you think that you too see errors ministries and pastors as pharisees and Sadducees in the time of Jesus? What is the difference? Special imperfect organization!

MightySparrow:

Don't you think that you too see errors ministries and pastors as pharisees and Sadducees in the time of Jesus? What is the difference? Special imperfect organization!

Someone lied that he drank tea with God and often comes up to prophesy about Nigeria and so many other things but his own son died yet he couldn't see it.
Are you comparing that to a group of people who has maintained a global family of peace loving worshipers for over a century?

Guy if you want to argue use your senses that's why God gave you a working brain not just to argue aimlessly.

There is no error in the works of the group that is fulfilling what God promised in the Bible whatever you don't understand just ask don't say they're committing errors yet all what God promised in the Bible is been fulfilled by them.

That's what Pharisees were criticizing Jesus for yet Jesus and his disciples were fulfilling what God promised when Pharisees can't point to any fulfilment in what God promised in His word.

But if you know any fulfilment of God's promise in the ministry of any religion apart from what is found everywhere please let me know.