bobestman:
The only hell we know is Nigeria and your religions made it so. The ppl became brainwashed with it that they can't use their brain to create any meaningful thing. Since your religion came we have been in darkness. They rape our women, steal our resources, flog our ancestors till they accept their religion. Carry them off in a slave ship called "Jesus of Lubek". They turned our politicians to their puppet they use to steal our resources till today. This is why Africa is in hell. The saviour will come from us. Save our land and the Romans who gave you the fake Christ will come and bow. You all will cry for your foolishness. Hell is a state of the mind. Only christian who believe it go their. The true place is the valley of the shadow of death.

So, there were no rapes, no slave trades, no murders, no stealing before the white man came? My religion caused you to worship trees, kill twin babies, worship measles as a god, sacrifice humans for rituals, trek long distances for lack of vehicles, drink dirty water from contaminated rivers, etc?

True Christians and Paulians.

Let me watch the battle of i sabi pass you among trinitarians as they do their thing:

IṢU ATA YÁN-AN YÀN-AN

YAM PEPPER SCATTER SCATTER!

FxMasterz:


So, there were no rapes, no slave trades, no murders, no stealing before the white man came? My religion caused you to worship trees, kill twin babies, worship measles as a god, sacrifice humans for rituals, trek long distances for lack of vehicles, drink dirty water from contaminated rivers, etc?

We are ppl of rules. Everyone knows rape, stealing etc are against the laws of the land. They brought all that and after them the ppl no longer regard the laws and begin to do as they see the thieves do. About worship, as your religions differ in worship and doctrine so were they. Mind you their is only one God but their are lesser gods but they don't worship them. The true God many of your religions don't know and mistook for Yahweh is the God of African. Igbo say ELE and their is place called Ugwu Ele(Bethel). Yorubas say Eledumare. Hebrews EL Shamayim, many names in your bible ended with EL. You ppl call on small yahweh. Your bible stories are our stories

bobestman:
We are ppl of rules. Everyone knows rape, stealing etc are against the laws of the land. They brought all that and after them the ppl no longer regard the laws and begin to do as they see the thieves do. About worship, as your religions differ in worship and doctrine so were they. Mind you their is only one God but their are lesser gods but they don't worship them. The true God many of your religions don't know and mistook for Yahweh is the God of African. Igbo say ELE and their is place called Ugwu Ele(Bethel). Yorubas say Eledumare. Hebrews EL Shamayim, many names in your bible ended with EL. You ppl call on small yahweh. Your bible stories are our stories

I don't have your time dear. I can only tell you that Chris loves you and wants you to be saved. He died that you may live.

FxMasterz:


I don't have your time dear. I can only tell you that Chris loves you and wants you to be saved. He died that you may live.

Which of the Chris? Okotie or Oyakhilome? Lol. The idea of dying for sins is a Roman lie to link your soul to the false messiah. Did he ever told you he will die for your sins? They fab that after his death. If you sin, repent. Am not sinning, am exposing the lies they used to decieve you. Your bible God, his son, his ppl, their land, are all in African. The world began here. Bible was written here by black scribes with dreads. It was stolen by Europeans, re-written and brought back to them. It was repackaged and sold to them. When i read it, many of our stories come to me. I see things you ppl can't see. Only a true seed can tell the stories. You think i fabricate many things i say? If you research thing i say or check in the bible when i quote, you will get it. I know many things in the book they twisted that you ppl don't

bobestman:
Which of the Chris? Okotie or Oyakhilome? Lol. The idea of dying for sins is a Roman lie to link your soul to the false messiah. Did he ever told you he will die for your sins? They fab that after his death. If you sin, repent. Am not sinning, am exposing the lies they used to decieve you. Your bible God, his son, his ppl, their land, are all in African. The world began here. Bible was written here by black scribes with dreads. It was stolen by Europeans, re-written and brought back to them. It was repackaged and sold to them. When i read it, many of our stories come to me. I see things you ppl can't see. Only a true seed can tell the stories. You think i fabricate many things i say? If you research thing i say or check in the bible when i quote, you will get it. I know many things in the book they twisted that you ppl don't

Chris was an error. I meant to write 'Christ'. Jesus Christ loves you. He died for the redemption of your soul. Do not waste the previous love He has bestowed on you.

Come to Christ today. He'll give you eternal life. And you'll find peace for your soul.

FxMasterz:


Chris was an error. I meant to write 'Christ'. Jesus Christ loves you. He died for the redemption of your soul. Do not waste the previous love He has bestowed on you.

Come to Christ today. He'll give you eternal life. And you'll find peace for your soul.

Bro jesus is meaningless name. An impostor created by Romans and credited with the acts of the true messiah. He is an oyibo, sisi with long hairs. He should go save his own ppl. Only your kind can save you. An oyibo cannot save a black man. Pastors are stealing, lying and raping ppl's mothers and children in his name. The true messiah is a black man. Jesus is an actor acting his scripts. When he is revealed you will cry. Stop giving your lives to thieves. God doesn't require that. He only want you to obey him. No where was it written to give your life to anybody. It is a Roman fab to tie your soul to their son. You all have been fooled. Fear God and obey his commands. I saw the 2 lights. He is the false

jesusjnr2020:
You can clearly see the foolishness in attempting to show any Paulian aka blind followers of Paul, examples of the errors of Paul teachings after they ask for it.

No matter how glaring his errors are, Paulian are still too blind to see it.

The point is not whether it was meant for all women but if Paul had any right to tell women not to speak in Christ's church, contrary to Christ's teachings and instructions.

Though if you actually think that Jesus who said He built His church, only laid the foundation but Paul built on it, then it obviously means Paul has taken the place of Christ in your life, and you're not a true Christian but one of the problems of today's dead church built by Paul.

True Christians believe Christ and Christ alone built His church in accordance to His Words.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

If you can't see the gross error in your beliefs yet, then your case might be beyond redemption.

You are completely blind.

Jesus said, I will build. It's a future tense.

He is the chief corner stone. The Apostles laid the foundation. Get this truth into your brain.

Ephessians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

bobestman:
Bro jesus is meaningless name. An impostor created by Romans and credited with the acts of the true messiah. He is an oyibo, sisi with long hairs. He should go save his own ppl. Only your kind can save you. An oyibo cannot save a black man. Pastors are stealing, lying and raping ppl's mothers and children in his name. The true messiah is a black man. Jesus is an actor acting his scripts. When he is revealed you will cry. Stop giving your lives to thieves. God doesn't require that. He only want you to obey him. No where was it written to give your life to anybody. It is a Roman fab to tie your soul to their son. You all have been fooled. Fear God and obey his commands. I saw the 2 lights. He is the false

At the mention of His name, I have cast out devils, healed the sick, restored broken homes, turned sinners unto righteousness, delivered the captives of hell, terminated demonic oppressions, and demonstrated God's love to men.

The name of Jesus is not an ordinary name. That's the name that raised my younger brother back to life in 1982. The same name delivered me from the jaws of death in 1988.

Come to Jesus. He loves you. He cares for you. He would give you a new life. He died that you may live. Do not allow the labours of Christ regarding your soul to go to waste. Your life is temporal. Only Jesus can give you eternal life. Invite Jesus into your life today, and you'll be saved.

FxMasterz:


At the mention of His name, I have cast out devils, healed the sick, restored broken homes, turned sinners unto righteousness, delivered the captives of hell, terminated demonic oppressions, and demonstrated God's love to men.

The name of Jesus is not an ordinary name. That's the name that raised my younger brother back to life in 1982. The same name delivered me from the jaws of death in 1988.

Come to Jesus. He loves you. He cares for you. He would give you a new life. He died that you may live. Do not allow the labours of Christ regarding your soul to go to waste. Your life is temporal. Only Jesus can give you eternal life. Invite Jesus into your life today, and you'll be saved.

hahaha i know everything about your false messiah. The more you talk, the more i expose him. Whatever you believe in works for you. You can use the name of father, ancestors and anything and get result. The one who protect you and do all that is your Chi/Ori/personal angel

@ the Paulina above, the true messiah built no church. Neither did his disciples. They were hiding for fear of the Roman untill they were caught and killed. He taught that the true temple is within you. Your body is the temple of God. Why did he say that? Cos your body has a spirit which is an aspect of God in you. Your body is the true temple. The physical temple was created by Romans and they lied to you that God is there. God is not there but in you. He said he will build but did he build? NO. Why? Cos it is in the future when he will gather his ppl into their land and rule as their king - Isaiah 2; 11:11,12; Acts 1:6. Romans created religion and churchism from his teachings. Gave you a false messiah to establish what he will do in the future so you won't believe anyone who comes to correct their lies in the future but the lie they already gave you. The true church is in you. The true christ is not he you believe. Pattern your lives according how the spirit leads you FOR those led by the spirit are the ..

bobestman:
hahaha i know everything about your false messiah. The more you talk, the more i expose him. Whatever you believe in works for you. You can use the name of father, ancestors and anything and get result. The one who protect you and do all that is your Chi/Ori/personal angel

You can't cast out demons by just believing anything okay? You can't liberate a dying woman from the claws of a river goddess by just believing anything. You can find a very recent testimony here on Nairaland, how Jesus used me to deliver a woman from the Osun river goddess that was bent on killing her because of a breach of covenant. You're too ignorant of the spirit realm to even contribute to these things. You have no experience other than conspiracy theories that are bereft of sound logic.

Give your life to Christ. I have sounded these warnings to you over and over again. I'm sure the demons deceiving you wouldn't allow you to heed the warnings and accept the sacrifice Christ made on your behalf. May God have mercy on your soul.

I've passed my message. I may not bother responding to you any more.

FxMasterz:


You can cast out demons by just believing anything okay? You can't liberate a dying woman from the claws of a river goddess by just believing anything. You can find a very recent testimony here on Nairaland, how Jesus used me to deliver a woman from the Osun river goddess that was bent of killing her because of a breach of covenant. You're too ignorant of the spirit realm to even contribute to these things. You have no experience other than conspiracy theories that are bereft of sound logic.

Give your life to Christ. I have sounded these warnings to you over and over again. I'm sure the demons deceiving you wouldn't allow you to heed the warnings and accept the sacrifice Christ made on your behalf. May God have mercy on your soul.

I've passed my message. I may not bother responding to you any more.

Am sorry you are a fool. We have been doing that before your religions came. Other religions have their way of doing that. You have been fooled

bobestman:
Stale

That's what you people said when we told you that the end of the world is coming and now it has come, see wailing. So, will it be when you get to hellfire.

Dtruthspeaker:


That's what you people said when we told you that the end of the world is coming and now it has come, see wailing. So, will it be when you get to hellfire.

When will you start acting like a sane man? Has the world ended? Endtime is actually the end of your religious lies. Many are now seeing the lies in your religion and running away from it. Hell was used to create fear in the minds of ppl to accept your religion. It is for christians who believe in it. It is simply the world of the dead. Ask your ancestors who lived millions of years before your religion and have gone their and came back. Their stories is what was plagiarised to create your religions so they know what hell is better than those who gave you religion. Christianity brought it to make ppl accept their godspell. It is not even all of them that believed it cos it is a lle

bobestman:
@ the Paulina above, the true messiah built no church. Neither did his disciples. They were hiding for fear of the Roman untill they were caught and killed. He taught that the true temple is within you. Your body is the temple of God. Why did he say that? Cos your body has a spirit which is an aspect of God in you. Your body is the true temple. The physical temple was created by Romans and they lied to you that God is there. God is not there but in you. He said he will build but did he build? NO. Why? Cos it is in the future when he will gather his ppl into their land and rule as their king - Isaiah 2; 11:11,12; Acts 1:6. Romans created religion and churchism from his teachings. Gave you a false messiah to establish what he will do in the future so you won't believe anyone who comes to correct their lies in the future but the lie they already gave you. The true church is in you. The true christ is not he you believe. Pattern your lives according how the spirit leads you FOR those led by the spirit are the ..

Isaiah 1:18a
Please come, and let's reason together ...

Beloved bobestman please, I invite you to come on now, I pray you, let's discuss this!

1. Why are we all made (i.e what is the ultimate purpose for for why we human beings were made)
2a. What is a Chi/Ori/personal angel?
2b. Is Chi synonymous with Ori (i.e. what is Chi, and what is Ori)
3. Who is Chi/Ori/personal angel answerable and accountable to?
4. What are human beings make up (i.e. what is an average human being overall constitution and composition)
5. with human beings as reference points, what is the differences between soul, spirit and body?
6. What is your explanation about the way out solution for the salvation of soul(s)?
7. Do you believe in a self-existent highest in rank being?
8. If your answer to #7, is yes, then how powerful is this self-existent highest in rank being?
9. From all yiur understanding, is the word religion synonymous with the word faith?
10. Give me 3 - 4 examples of one religion that is true and pure, such that it is free of flaws and/or faults with it

Lets simply start with these above instalments 10 requests first. Thanks in advance for your responses

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Ken4Christ:


You are completely blind.

Jesus said, I will build. It's a future tense.

He is the chief corner stone. The Apostles laid the foundation. Get this truth into your brain.

Ephessians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Sorry I'm actually beginning to think you're a genius really.

The only one who could turn an "I" into a "we" in a future tense.

You also seem confused, from "Jesus laid the foundation, the apostles built upon it," to "the apostle laid the foundation", so which should we believe?

Even the teaching of Paul you quoted doesn't support your heretic idea, because it didn't say anyone else built upon the foundation as you claimed.

You need special deliverance if you still think you didn't make an error.

bobestman:
When will you start acting like a sane man? Has the world ended? Endtime is actually the end of your religious

Swe how you always prove that you are a mad person? Does end time mean ended world? As i have said, you obviously are a mad person.

Dtruthspeaker:


Swe how you always prove that you are a mad person? Does end time mean ended world? As i have said, you obviously are a mad person.

You are bringing harm to yourself if you lie and try to defend it. Atimes hide in shame. You said "you told us the world will end and now it has come" meaning what? Stop fooling yourself

@ NNTR
You will be asking questions you already know to start an endless arguement. Go and research on the questions you don't know the answers or better still go and ask your village ppl

@FxMasterz
Let me make it clear to you from the bible that Africans were the ones with the truth but erred while those who brought religion are the lies
Read Deu 28, it was the curses Africans suffer cos of disobedience
Verse 33 speaks of the foreigners who will enrich themselves with your wealth
Verse 36 &64 clearly shows they are foreigners and you will follow their religion and worship their gods WOOD (Cross, Christianity) and STONE (Kabala, Islam)
Verse 37 Everyone insult Africa today. Byword means nigger, cursed and backward ppl
Verse 49 described the robbers. They came from afar from one end of earth. West Africa is one end of earth opposite another, America. End of earth means enclosed by the Atlantic Ocean. Their emblem was an Eagle. At first we don't understand them cos their language was hard

Do you now see that your ppl are the ppl of the book who know the truth. The robbers of your ppl brought a false religion and you worship their false gods. You can't deny the truth in things i sayA

jesusjnr2020:
Sorry I'm actually beginning to think you're a genius really.

The only one who could turn an "I" into a "we" in a future tense.

You also seem confused, from "Jesus laid the foundation, the apostles built upon it," to "the apostle laid the foundation", so which should we believe?

Even the teaching of Paul you quoted doesn't support your heretic idea, because it didn't say anyone else built upon the foundation as you claimed.

You need special deliverance if you still think you didn't make an error.

Foundations are at different levels. Jesus is the chief corner Stone. It also means that Jesus laid the first foundation.

The work of the Apostles was also foundational because the church of the Gentiles just began. But whatever they did was consistent with the teachings of our Lord Jesus.

bobestman:
@ NNTR
You will be asking questions you already know to start an endless arguement.

Beloved bobestman, it is called Q & A (i.e. Question and Answer). The questions arent asked for the sake of arguments, but rather to draw out what your perspective are

bobestman:
Go and research on the questions you don't know the answers or better still go and ask your village ppl

Defeatism and giving 'go and research on ...' excuses or told to 'better still go and ask your village ppl' are all, always easy ways out

A person of your ability shouldnt be intimidated by those easy, simple, direct, harmless tête-à-tête questions

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Beloved bobestman, it is called Q & A (i.e. Question and Answer). The questions arent asked for the sake of arguments, but rather to draw out what your perspective are

Defeatism and giving 'go and research on ...' excuses or told to 'better still go and ask your village ppl' are all, always easy ways out

A person of your ability shouldnt be intimidated by those easy, simple, direct, harmless tête-à-tête questions

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

This your style can't work with me. If you want to learn, know how to ask rightly. Stop asking foolish questions you already know that are not related to the topic. Also learn to make it very brief. You are the student who wanna learn. Am not your fellow religious brainwashed brothers. You can only defeat someone who gave time or argued with you

Ken4Christ:


Foundations are at different levels. Jesus is the chief corner Stone. It also means that Jesus laid the first foundation.

The work of the Apostles was also foundational because the church of the Gentiles just began. But whatever they did was consistent with the teachings of our Lord Jesus.

See this is not about foundation or chief corner stone or whatever, but who built the church.

Christ said He built it Himself whether in present or future tense, so what you said about Him building just the foundation with the apostles building the church, was heretic and clearly goes against His teachings.

You can even see where He implied that He would use Peter (which name is interpreted as "the rock" ), as the foundation of the church He will build Himself.

So being a part of the foundation has nothing do to with building the church itself, which was exclusively done by Jesus with Power of the Holy Ghost.

Christ built His church and handed it over to the apostles to manage or supervise it not to build with Him. The church building was finished with His death (and resurrection).

Thank you and God bless.

Hi

jesusjnr2020:
See this is not about foundation or chief corner stone or whatever, but who built the church.

Christ said He built it Himself whether in present or future tense, so what you said about Him building just the foundation with the apostles building the church, was heretic and clearly goes against His teachings.

You can even see where He implied that He would use Peter (which name is interpreted as "the rock" ), as the foundation of the church He will build Himself.

So being a part of the foundation has nothing do to with building the church itself, which was exclusively done by Jesus with Power of the Holy Ghost.

Christ built His church and handed it over to the apostles to manage or supervise it not to build with Him. The church building was finished with His death (and resurrection).

Thank you and God bless.

Christ does nothing apart from his body. The church is the body of Christ and Jesus is the head. The head needs the body and the body receives direction from the head. We are together with him in building his church. And the church is still growing. So, we are co labourers in his vineyard.

bobestman:
This your style can't work with me. If you want to learn, know how to ask rightly. Stop asking foolish questions you already know that are not related to the topic. Also learn to make it very brief. You are the student who wanna learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H86BVKR-60w

Dont be unduly mistrustful and paranoid beloved. This isnt in relation to education, but simply just as I earlier mentioned is a tête-à-tête with easy, simple, direct, harmless questions

bobestman:
If you want to learn, know how to ask rightly. Stop asking foolish questions you already know that are not related to the topic. Also learn to make it very brief.

There are no foolish questions, but simply a case of a foolish person, who is afraid that something undesirable would happen if gives answers to questions. No person becomes a fool until such person has stopped asking questions and refuses to answer questions being asked.

bobestman:
... Also learn to make it very brief.

Were the measly instalments of 10 simple Q&A requests that very great in amount, for you to sink your teeth on and bite?
Redeem your image and go for it beloved

bobestman:
... You are the student who wanna learn.

You who dares to teach student(s), must never cease to learn

bobestman:
Am not your fellow religious brainwashed brothers.

Every human being is religious in at least one aspect of life and the other

bobestman:
You can only defeat someone who gave time or argued with you

“To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth.”
— Bruce Lee

Defeatism, used in the context of yield to failure, as a result of not showing your hand (i.e. making secret of your thought process(es))

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

@NNTR
Since you have been doing this, how many ppl answer you even when you are the one asking the questions? Many often ignore you cos you always act like a child. You jump into a thread and start asking irrelevant questions not related to the topic and want ppl to answer you. They will keep ignoring your posts untill you learn how mature ppl do it. Go thru the the thread and learn how it is done. When you ask me questions you are my student. If you ask too many at a time i ignore you. You need to understand A before you jump to B. No teacher teaches that way. Go and learn how it is done or go to your village ppl for the answers

bobestman:
@NNTR
Since you have been doing this, how many ppl answer you even when you are the one asking the questions?

It's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction.

bobestman beloved, I know what I bring to the table, so trust me when and f I say, I am not afraid to eat alone

bobestman:
Many often ignore you cos you always act like a child.

bobestman, you're increasingly becoming more conceited and arrogant, makes one wonder, what next

bobestman beloved, acting like a child, still doesnt take away the fact, that you, in an expected way, are scared stiff of giving answers to those easy, simple, direct, harmless, straightforward questions. Arent you aware that knowledge, (i.e. give honest and sincere answers to questions) is the only thing you can give away without losing anything. Hmm? That the only way to keep knowledge, (i.e. give honest and sincere answers to questions), is to give it away!

Now piece of advice gift to you, never write off or underestimate posters because you never know what valuable info, knowledge, insight they might be holding in, but its alright, as I know you come on to the Religion forum and not recognise the truth you habitually dilute with your lies.

bobestman:
You jump into a thread and start asking irrelevant questions not related to the topic and want ppl to answer you.

If you are sure of your onions, if you havent anything to hide, its an easy thing share whatever answers you have
Seize the opportunity to showcase, instead of skirting around the questions

The questions were directed at you. The focus is you, not ppl, not others

bobestman:
They will keep ignoring your posts untill you learn how mature ppl do it.

Easier to ignore and avoid probing questions than to man up, be a man and put forward answers to questions asked. Life isn't about avoiding questions, but part of life is about collecting bruises during answering the questions and have scars, proving, you at least showed up and gave your brst at answering the questions

bobestman:
Go thru the the thread and learn how it is done.

Beloved bobestman, you have more sense than this. The time is now, if there's ever a time to rightly divided the Word of truth, however Satan has a church for everyone. Evidently, darkness is what you prefer. Mark my words, the truth you failed to embrace today, will expose you tomorrow.

bobestman:
When you ask me questions you are my student. If you ask too many at a time i ignore you. You need to understand A before you jump to B. No teacher teaches that way.

Since when has an interviewer become a student from asking an interviewee questions. Please don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does, besides when I have a lower IQ in another life, maybe you could stand a chance to teach me that way.

Yeyedeysmell, the educator questions will educate the pseudo teacher, teaching

bobestman:
Go and learn how it is done or go to your village ppl for the answers

How you jump on high horses. Has it occurred to you, you might not be a reliable source of information? Consider going to learn how not to be self conceited. Humble yourself. Cut out the disparaging remarks you are so fond of making

Listen, as you age, you will find yourself right on some things, and wrong on others, but in the process, don't be arrogant!

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

@NNTR When you finally learn how to do it, you com. I don't waste time on nonsense

Kobojunkie:
Why not attempt a rebuttal instead of displaying what is the typical religious response exhibited even by Islamics?

Religion is indeed a mission in blindness as Jesus Christ said.

Birds of the same feather flock together indeed

jesusjnr2020:
Are You A True Christian Or Paulian? Know The Difference

*A true Christian is anyone who fully follow the teachings of Christ and places His teachings above every other, but a Paulian is anyone who fully follows the teachings of Paul and places his teachings above those of anyone else, including the teachings of Christ.

*It's impossible to be a true Christian and a Paulian at the same time because some of the teachings of apostle Paul goes against the teachings of Christ, so there's no middle ground for anyone. It's either you're fully for Christ or fully for Paul, no sitting on the fence here.

God bless.

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