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TenQ:
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Only God reserve the right to call anyone His son by adoption.
BTW Gen5:1-2 never called Adam God's son.

The Word of God (Jesus Christ) gave us the power to become God's children.

John 1:12:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"


What is your problem of the Creator of Everything adopts me as His child?

Hmm, let's get into some of your theology.

The terms “image” and “likeness” in the context of being made in the image of God are actually representative of sonship. By the Biblical saying of being created in the image and likeness of God signifies a filial relationship with God, where humans are considered His offspring.

This buttresses the perspective that aligns with the idea that humanity’s role as God’s image-bearers is closely tied to being His children, reflecting a family resemblance and standing in a special relationship with Him.

The narrative in Genesis 1 emphasizes that humans, created in God’s image and likeness, are tasked with dominion over the earth and its creatures. This connection between the image of God and rulership underscores the significance of humans as representatives of God’s authority on earth.

The usage of the language of “image” and “likeness” extends to family relationships within the biblical text. Genesis 5 draws a parallel between Adam being created in the likeness of God and his son Seth being born in his own likeness, indicating a generational transmission of this divine image.

In the New Testament Acts 17 and Luke 3, suggest that bearing the image of God implies a filial connection with Him, emphasizing a familial bond between humanity and their Creator.

Luke’s genealogical reference to Adam speaks of him as the divinely created progenitor of the line leading to Jesus (Luke 3:38). Luke is explaining what it means that Jesus has been declared to be God’s well-pleasing Son (Luke 3:22).

ANTlISLAM:
Slave, you mean they are Muslims that carry kettle and bang their heads on the floor five times in a day ?

You have a lot to learn about God and his religion (ISLAM)

All prophets of God came to this life with the same message and purpose but in different dimensions

All prophets of God are Muslims
Who is a Muslim?

A person who believe in oneness of ALLAH
A person who submitted to the will of God

Are regarded as Muslim as the name implies....

Now go and check your Bible how does Aaron, Abraham, Moses, Jesus worshiped their God?

They use to wash their feet, hand, and face (ablution)

Exodus 40:30-38 King James Version (KJV)
And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat: when they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses.

They also worshiped their God by bowing down their face and worship..

All this are quite different from the way you sheeps are worshiping God it is simple

How are you worshiping God? Dancing with another person's wife, clapping,

There are a lot of differences between how Jesus Christ PBUH worshiped his God compare to you sheeps

Why are you not worshiping whom you god is worshiping? It shows how daft you people is....



Now back to your question

When Jesus Christ PBUH came what did he said?

I have NOT COME TO ABOLISH THE LAWS BUT TO AMEND it......

The messages of subsequent prophets use to amend the previous one.....

It was Muhammad that PERFECTED GOD religion (ISLAM)

Do you pray to love like a Jesus? If yes then you must NOT get married and NOT give birth to a baby maybe you should try that........

Exodus 40:30-38 King James Version (KJV)
And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat: when they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses.

Mathew 4:9-10
And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your GOD and him ONLY shall you SERVE.’”

JESUS CHRIST is a MUSLIM he affirmed to the devil and you sheeps that it is ONLY God that you should SERVE

WHY NOT it is ME and my God that you SERVE?

Or why not it is only god the father that u should SERVE

Or why not you should serve god the father and SPIRIT. NA YOU sheeps mumu pass for this earth I SWEAR.


CHRISTIANITY IS A BUSINESS ENTITY NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF IT MY BROTHER......

TenQ:
Qur'an 19:71
"وَمَا مِنكُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا سَيَمُرُّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ يَسِيرٌ"

Was ma minkum min ahadin illa sayamurruhā...

Going by the Arabic!

Every Muslim according to Allah will FIRST enter the Fire of Hell before Allah will now accept their ransome

You pick a verse in Surah Maryam without recourse to the surrounding verses?
Clearquran.com Surah 19
67. Does the human being not remember that We created him before, when he was nothing?

68. By your Lord, We will round them up, and the devils, then We will bring them around Hell, on their knees.

69. Then, out of every sect, We will snatch those most defiant to the Most Merciful.

70. We are fully aware of those most deserving to scorch in it.

71. There is not one of you but will go down to it. This has been an unavoidable decree of your Lord.

72. Then We will rescue those who were devout, and leave the wrongdoers in it, on their knees.

Without going to Tafsir is the above not easy to understand?

68 says all including the devil will be brought around the fire,
69 says the most deviant in every sect will be snatched being aware of what everyone does emphasized in 70.

Are these not the ones that will go down into it. The deviants will go down into it.

72. The righteous will be saved from this faith.

TenQ:
Thanks for surrendering : at least now you know that Allah has more than 25 prophets and you now know that to every nation on earth was sent a prophet of Allah and that your scholars are the one who invented the number 124,000 messanger and not Christians.

Pele, only God knows the rest of his prophets
But 25 prophets name was mentioned in the Quran so what is your stress with that ?

And again It wasn't all of them that were given books.

ahmedio2017:
That's why I said you are not a Jesus follower, it is beyond ur knowledge and understanding as a result of what you are being told by ur pastors eeya sorry...

Now ask your pastors the following questions

1, what is Jesus Christ religion because he believed in monotheistic and Christianity beliefs in polytheistic why the differences?

2. How does Jesus Christ PBUH worshiped his God.

I will advise you to quit all these tricks and theories bcs they no longer sell. Islam has been badly exposed and dealt with, no thanks to someone like you and those lousy Islamic preachers who cannot preach their sermon jeje without attacking Christianity and the Holy Bible.

For your information, Christ never practiced any religion, if he had, he would have commanded his followers to do the same. As a matter of fact, Jesus condemned the religious practices and religious leaders of his days.

Our Lord Jesus Christ never had any religion, what he came to do was to save the mankind and to restore man to his original relationship with God and his sonship status.


In John 4:19-24, a Samaritan woman had a heated argument with Jesus on how and where God should be worshipped, but Jesus dismissed all her assertions, telling her that God seeks only those who will worship Him in (through) His Spirit and Truth.

Without the Holy Spirit man cannot worship God because God is Spirit.

Now where is the place of the Holy Spirit in Islam

Look, what you Muslims, the self acclaimed monotheists practice as true way of worship is condemned and considered "a greater abomination" before God in these following scriptures.


Ezekiel 8:15-16 KJV
Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

[16] And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east

Isn't this what the Muslims do day in day out at the temple mount in Jerusalem, facing the east and turning their backs to the temple/mosque

Can you pray as a Muslim without facing the east?

Is that the religion you said Jesus practice?

The burden is now on you to show the world how Jesus worship the Islamic way and when he recited the shahada, and how he took his ablution and how he participated in Ramadan.

Pls don't waste our time by quoting Jesus prayer in the garden of Gethsemane.

So you people want the whole world to become the worshippers of the sun, moon and stars

Ko le werk!!!!

TenQ:
So, companionship is about sex and reproduction?

Don't Angels have companionship/relationship with each other?

Jesus said, there is no marriage in paradise.

But in Islamic heaven, it's a galore of sexual orgies
1. You marry Houris
2. You marry inmates of hell with tight vagn.as
3. You marry Muslim women
4. Mohammed will even marry Mary the mother of Jesus

It is a different paradise we are going bro!

Is this not another major difference in doctrine of Christ Jesus and Mohammed?

I wonder where you get this sexual relations from.

The companionship between the righteous believers and the houris in paradise is not described as being sexual.

The concept of houris in Islamic belief is often associated with the reward for faithful Muslim men in paradise. While there are descriptions of houris in Islamic texts that mention their beauty and characteristics, the relationship between believers and houris is typically understood to be one of companionship, purity, and reward rather than physical or sexual in nature.

ahmedio2017:
You have a lot to learn about God and his religion (ISLAM)

All prophets of God came to this life with the same message and purpose but in different dimensions

All prophets of God are Muslims
Who is a Muslim?

Now that you've learnt what Torah, Injeel, etc is and your senses back to normal with the attention shifted to who a Muslim is, I will also enlighten you on basics things you don't know about islam

Who is a Prophet and can someone be called a prophet without been ordained by God? Let's start from that angle. Pls this time around, make sure you answer all my questions

N.B don't use question to answer question

ahmedio2017:
A person who believe in oneness of ALLAH
A person who submitted to the will of God

Are regarded as Muslim as the name implies....

Where did you read it in Quran that a Muslim is someone who believe in oneness of allah?

ahmedio2017:
Now go and check your Bible how does Aaron, Abraham, Moses, Jesus worshiped their God?

They all worshipped Jehovah but not by washing their mouths, as your are washing your stinky mouths in islam before praying, they didn't worshipped God by facing the direction of kaaba as you slaves must face the direction of the shrine called kaaba before worshiping your allah

None of them cycling, bow, worship the black stone placed at Mecca. None of them throw the sheytan stone, etc. So what really make them a Muslim? They all believed God is one.

ahmedio2017:
They use to wash their feet, hand, and face (ablution)
They also worshiped their God by bowing down their face and worship..

Where did you read it from that they wash their feet, hand, face, mouth and face the direction of kaaba while praying five times a day? Does it mean if I bow praying to my God, it means I'm praying to the idol (allah) caged inside the shrine of kaaba right?

Islam has finish you slave boy

ahmedio2017:
All this are quite different from the way you sheeps are worshiping God it is simple

Are you GOATS different from idolaters that worship stones?

ahmedio2017:
How are you worshiping God? Dancing with another person's wife, clapping,

Even Dawud in Quran sings and dance so why is yours different in islam? Don't tell me you don't know whom Dawud is. You will surely be alright las las

ahmedio2017:
There are a lot of differences between how Jesus Christ PBUH worshiped his God compare to you sheeps

There are a lot of differences on how Dawud worship his God compare to you GOATS.. Muhammad ought to have followed Dawud's suit but he chose to worship a shrine called kaaba

ahmedio2017:
Why are you not worshiping whom you god is worshiping? It shows how daft you people is....

Who are we worshipping in Christendom? Did you think we are worshipping that nonsense stone in mecca or face one certain direction? It shows how silly and stupid you slaves and goats are by facing the direction of kaaba claiming you're worshiping true God

Seems I omitted to address.

The fate of Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve disciples of Jesus, is a topic that has been debated for centuries. According to the Bible, Judas betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver and later regretted his actions, returning the money before hanging himself. However, there are also conflicting accounts that suggest Judas died in a different manner.

One theory is that Judas did not actually hang himself but instead died from a fall or other means. Another belief is that he was killed by God as punishment for his betrayal. Some even claim that Judas faked his own death and lived out the rest of his days in exile.

Whether he died by suicide, accident, divine intervention, or lived on in hiding, the story of Judas continues to intrigue and mystify scholars and believers alike.

Samunique:
I will advise you to quit all these tricks and theories bcs they no longer sell. Islam has been badly exposed and dealt with, no thanks to someone like you and those lousy Islamic preachers who cannot preach their sermon jeje without attacking Christianity and the Holy Bible.

For your information, Christ never practiced any religion, if he had, he would have commanded his followers to do the same. As a matter of fact, Jesus condemned the religious practices and religious leaders of his days.

Our Lord Jesus Christ never had any religion, what he came to do was to save the mankind and to restore man to his original relationship with God and his sonship status.


In John 4:19-24, a Samaritan woman had a heated argument with Jesus on how and where God should be worshipped, but Jesus dismissed all her assertions, telling her that God seeks only those who will worship Him in (through) His Spirit and Truth.

Without the Holy Spirit man cannot worship God because God is Spirit.

Now where is the place of the Holy Spirit in Islam

Look, what you Muslims, the self acclaimed monotheists practice as true way of worship is condemned and considered "a greater abomination" before God in these following scriptures.


Ezekiel 8:15-16 KJV
Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

[16] And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east

Isn't this what the Muslims do day in day out at the temple mount in Jerusalem, facing the east and turning their backs to the temple/mosque

Can you pray as a Muslim without facing the east?

Is that the religion you said Jesus practice?

The burden is now on you to show the world how Jesus worship the Islamic way and when he recited the shahada, and how he took his ablution and how he participated in Ramadan.

Pls don't waste our time by quoting Jesus prayer in the garden of Gethsemane.

So you people want the whole world to become the worshippers of the sun, moon and stars

Ko le werk!!!!

What is my business with you guys? I don't preach for you to change your beliefs, but you guys should leave Islam ALONE your religion shall be urs and mine shall be mine no poke nose......


Stick to your beliefs and leave Islam ALONE....

Ohyoudidnt:
Can we thus say this response isn't the same as the one you lost? Is it certain this abridged version doesn't miss prominent points you intended and this is different?



Does the Bible exactly say the passover is not a single day? I have not seen this perhaps you can show me as you take offense in my saying you are rewriting the Bible and reinventing Christianity.

The discrepancies in how Jesus is said to have been crucified make a big case for doubt. When there are inconsistencies in narrations of how an event is said to occur it takes a good chunk of credibility away or isn't this so?

You are familiar with the word anachronism ?

Anachronisms can indeed be considered as illusions in the context of historical reenactments or artistic representations. They serve to create a specific atmosphere or narrative that may not be entirely historically accurate but aims to entertain or engage the audience.

The phrase “so it was made to appear to them” refers to the belief held by some that Jesus was crucified. This verse is often interpreted to mean it wasn't Jesus crucified and he was substituted. Was he substituted by another person or was this like a mirage or was this like the case of Moses seeing a burning bush yet no real fire or burning was taking place?

Why does the phrase it only appeared to happen occur in that translation of the meaning? Does this not emphasize that it didn't happen? The famous magician trick of slicing a human into two is an appearance that isn't true or does the magician actually slice the person in two? No. It is an illusion that is perceived to be real as the audience but it isn't.

The event was a deception or illusion created by Allah to protect Jesus from such a fate. You are familiar with the 16th century philosopher Machiavelli who feigned his death in order to defeat his enemies?

'and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow'

Is this not evident in the varied narrations surrounding the crucifixion in the Bible?

The writers wrote at the time people were familiar with the nature of the passover feasts and holidays, thus they needn't expanciate on it. We modern readers may have to go into history and Jewish customs to understand the details of what is written down.

You mentioned the illusion of Anachronism caused by Allah himself resulting in
1. Allah misleading over 3.5Billion individuals who claim that Jesus died on the cross.
2. The whole message of Jesus was distorted by this singular act of Allah.

Why did Allah make Jesus
1. The only human born without an earthly father
2. The only human who created life from clay exactly like Allah
3. The only human who is literally taken up to heaven AND will be returning to judge mankind
Only for Allah himself to scatter the message of Jesus Christ. Why?

Does it make sense?

Can you unequivocally describe exactly how
1. Allah took Jesus to heaven
2. Who was crucified instead of Jesus
3. Why the disciples of Jesus, Mary the mother and all the Apostles of Jesus were decieved by Allah along with the Jews and Romans

Ohyoudidnt:
Oh! I only emphasize the discrepancies in these reports which you probably must have pondered over too. Unlike you I don't create a god in my image and determine what he says or does.


When two reports are not essentially the same the onus is mine to further investigate and derived the truth.


Do you exactly remember everything you've learnt in life since when you were a child though this is less than a 100 years? Naturally you will forget some details of some things.

In the case of human communities over longer periods of time some things get forgotten or inadequately related. Then don't forget the enemy the Devil ever scheming and trying to change the truth.

The different books were sent through prophets at different times but all emphasized the oneness of an almighty God and advised on righteous behaviour.

They also attended to peculiarities in human relationship at those times.

And I have explained off All your misconceptions but of course, it doesn't pay you to listen nor understand.

I challenge you to state the details of what exactly happened to Jesus and why Allah needed to destroy all the work Jesus came to do here on earth.

Until you can state exactly what happened to Jesus and match timeline and history, you have no case.
Is it untrue that the best you can do is to manufacture conjecture in explaining what happened to Jesus?

ANTlISLAM:
Now that you've learnt what Torah, Injeel, etc is and your senses back to normal with the attention shifted to who a Muslim is, I will also enlighten you on basics things you don't know about islam

Who is a Prophet and can someone be called a prophet without been ordained by God? Let's start from that angle. Pls this time around, make sure you answer all my questions

N.B don't use question to answer question




Where did you read it in Quran that a Muslim is someone who believe in oneness of allah?




They all worshipped Jehovah but not by washing their mouths, as your are washing your stinky mouths in islam before praying, they didn't worshipped God by facing the direction of kaaba as you slaves must face the direction of the shrine called kaaba before worshiping your allah

None of them cycling, bow, worship the black stone placed at Mecca. None of them throw the sheytan stone, etc. So what really make them a Muslim? They all believed God is one.



Where did you read it from that they wash their feet, hand, face, mouth and face the direction of kaaba while praying five times a day? Does it mean if I bow praying to my God, it means I'm praying to the idol (allah) caged inside the shrine of kaaba right?

Islam has finish you slave boy




Are you GOATS different from idolaters that worship stones?




Even Dawud in Quran sings and dance so why is yours different in islam? Don't tell me you don't know whom Dawud is. You will surely be alright las las



There are a lot of differences on how Dawud worship his God compare to you GOATS.. Muhammad ought to have followed Dawud's suit but he chose to worship a shrine called kaaba



Who are we worshipping in Christendom? Did you think we are worshipping that nonsense stone in mecca or face one certain direction? It shows how silly and stupid you slaves and goats are by facing the direction of kaaba claiming you're worshiping true God

Pele, just go and preach to your people, you are the most stubborn sect on earth, though I'm not surprised because Allah said he's the only one that can show someone the light, no matter our efforts you will still remain the same so no need of wasting my energy and time with you. Because even if we continue till Jesus Christ PBUH comes you still remain adamant but you shall know the truth on the day of judgement......


Allah is only one and prophet Muhammad s.a.w is a messenger of Allah

You shall not die unless you are a MUSLIM

That is my last message and advice for you if you will listen so that you can become successful in the hereafter........

If you don't listen, there is no compulsion in religion. Stick to your Christianity and LEAVE Islam ALONE..... Your religion shall be urs and let my religion be mine.....

ahmedio2017:
Pele, just go and preach to your people, you are the most stubborn sect on earth, though I'm not surprised because Allah said he's the only one that can show someone the light, no matter our efforts you will still remain the same so no need of wasting my energy and time with you. Because even if we continue till Jesus Christ PBUH comes you still remain adamant but you shall know the truth on the day of judgement......


Allah is only one and prophet Muhammad s.a.w is a messenger of Allah

You shall not die unless you are a MUSLIM

That is my last message and advice for you if you will listen so that you can become successful in there hereafter........

If you don't listen, there is no compulsion in religion. Still to your Christianity and LEAVE Islam ALONE..... Your religion shall be urs and let my religion be mine.....

I am stubborn for exposing your religion, quran and the pedophile messenger of your allah abi?

As if I knew you will run away.. See you're too small for me to handle. How I wish any of your chief imam, emir, sheikh, or whosoever is here to have some interactions with

Behold your religion from the picture below, you are not different from the hindu

ahmedio2017:
You are the one that should be afraid honestly do you know why?

You do not believe in ALLAH
You do not believe in prophet Muhammad s.a.w
You do not believe in Jesus Christ PBUH that says it is ONLY GOD that you should serve rather you believed in God's creatures as your lord I pity you repent before it is too late

Too bad!

Allah says you cannot escape the fire of hell but you don't believe him anyway!



Again :
I challenge you to show me where the Arabic says pass by Hell


This is exactly why I did not translate verse 71
pre-empt you so please explain this.
Qur'an 19:71
"وَمَا مِنكُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا سَيَمُرُّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ يَسِيرٌ"

Was ma minkum min ahadin illa sayamurruhā...

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

Meaning that ALL Muslims will at least first be in Hell Fire.
Here is the Arabic if you do not like the translation above
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمࣰا مَّقۡضِیࣰّا



Are you afraid of entering the fire of Hell? The fear is causing you to disbelieve Allah.
Qur'an 4:88
... . Do you want to guide him whom Allah HAS MADE to go astray? And he whom Allah HAS MADE to go astray, you will never find for him any way (of guidance).

Ohyoudidnt:
Hmm, let's get into some of your theology.

The terms “image” and “likeness” in the context of being made in the image of God are actually representative of sonship. By the Biblical saying of being created in the image and likeness of God signifies a filial relationship with God, where humans are considered His offspring.

This buttresses the perspective that aligns with the idea that humanity’s role as God’s image-bearers is closely tied to being His children, reflecting a family resemblance and standing in a special relationship with Him.

The narrative in Genesis 1 emphasizes that humans, created in God’s image and likeness, are tasked with dominion over the earth and its creatures. This connection between the image of God and rulership underscores the significance of humans as representatives of God’s authority on earth.

The usage of the language of “image” and “likeness” extends to family relationships within the biblical text. Genesis 5 draws a parallel between Adam being created in the likeness of God and his son Seth being born in his own likeness, indicating a generational transmission of this divine image.

In the New Testament Acts 17 and Luke 3, suggest that bearing the image of God implies a filial connection with Him, emphasizing a familial bond between humanity and their Creator.

Luke’s genealogical reference to Adam speaks of him as the divinely created progenitor of the line leading to Jesus (Luke 3:38). Luke is explaining what it means that Jesus has been declared to be God’s well-pleasing Son (Luke 3:22).

Are you stating unequivocally that Adam was God's son in Islam?

Because, your prophet said that Adam was created in the image of Allah.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525
He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”

I am just following your argument!

ahmedio2017:
Pele, just go and preach to your people, you are the most stubborn sect on earth, though I'm not surprised because Allah said he's the only one that can show someone the light, no matter our efforts you will still remain the same so no need of wasting my energy and time with you. Because even if we continue till Jesus Christ PBUH comes you still remain adamant but you shall know the truth on the day of judgement......


Allah is only one and prophet Muhammad s.a.w is a messenger of Allah

You shall not die unless you are a MUSLIM

That is my last message and advice for you if you will listen so that you can become successful in the hereafter........

If you don't listen, there is no compulsion in religion. Stick to your Christianity and LEAVE Islam ALONE..... Your religion shall be urs and let my religion be mine.....

That idol (allah) that's good at misleading you slaves will show another people the light abi? Dey play sogbo


Your allah is misleading his slaves (Muslims) astray.

Quran 7:186

"Whoever Allah sends astray - there is no guide for him. And He leaves them in their transgression, wandering blindly."



Quran 4:88

What is [the matter] with you [that you are] two groups concerning the hypocrites, while Allāh has made them fall back [into error and disbelief] for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom Allāh has sent astray? And he whom Allāh sends astray - never will you find for him a way [of guidance].


Even Muhammad is not sure of his end aftermath and at the end, allah said you Muslims are going to HELL FIRE, what a pity

TenQ:
Too bad!

Allah says you cannot escape the fire of hell but you don't believe him anyway!



Again :
I challenge you to show me where the Arabic says pass by Hell







"And there is none among you who is not to arrive at it." - 19:71. This means that everybody - be he a BELIEVER or an INFIDEL - will go ACROSS Hell. However, this does not mean that they would go to stay in it; they would only go across it.

This is exactly why I did not translate verse 71
pre-empt you so please explain this.
Qur'an 19:71
"وَمَا مِنكُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا سَيَمُرُّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ يَسِيرٌ"

Was ma minkum min ahadin illa sayamurruhā...

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

Meaning that ALL Muslims will at least first be in Hell Fire.
Here is the Arabic if you do not like the translation above
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمࣰا مَّقۡضِیࣰّا



Are you afraid of entering the fire of Hell? The fear is causing you to disbelieve Allah.
Qur'an 4:88
... . Do you want to guide him whom Allah HAS MADE to go astray? And he whom Allah HAS MADE to go astray, you will never find for him any way (of guidance).

perhaps you don't even understand English

"And there is none among you who is not to arrive at it." - 19:71. This means that everybody - be he a BELIEVER or an INFIDEL - will go ACROSS Hell. However, this does not mean that they would go to stay in it; they would only go ACROSS it.


What is the Quran verse 19 70 to 72?
(19:70) and then We shall know well all those most worthy to be cast in Hell. (19:71) There is not one of you but shall pass by Hell. This is a decree which your Lord will fulfil. (19:72) Then We shall deliver those that feared Allah and leave the wrong-doers there on their knees.


I cannot continue to waste my energy and time with a dullard like you honestly.....


HONESTLY if you don't repent hell fire is your ABODE

Ohyoudidnt:
You pick a verse in Surah Maryam without recourse to the surrounding verses?
Clearquran.com Surah 19
67. Does the human being not remember that We created him before, when he was nothing?

68. By your Lord, We will round them up, and the devils, then We will bring them around Hell, on their knees.

69. Then, out of every sect, We will snatch those most defiant to the Most Merciful.

70. We are fully aware of those most deserving to scorch in it.

71. There is not one of you but will go down to it. This has been an unavoidable decree of your Lord.

72. Then We will rescue those who were devout, and leave the wrongdoers in it, on their knees.

Without going to Tafsir is the above not easy to understand?

68 says all including the devil will be brought around the fire,
69 says the most deviant in every sect will be snatched being aware of what everyone does emphasized in 70.

Are these not the ones that will go down into it. The deviants will go down into it.

72. The righteous will be saved from this faith.

Even verse 72 betrays you sir

Quoting you:
72. Then We will rescue those who were devout, and leave the wrongdoers in it, on their knees.

From where would be Muslims be rescued?
Is it not from Inside hell Fire?

If evil doers will be LEFT on their knees, does it not connote that they are left only after you Muslims were removed from their midst?


Is it untrue that some of your scholars speaking the truth agree with me!?
Would you say that Ibn Abbas the cousin of your prophet doesn't understand the Qur'an?


See what the Tafsirs say:
ALL Muslims will enter the Fire of Hell until they are finally ransomed.

See the Tafsirs on Qur'an 19:71

Quran 19 :71 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(There is not one of you but shall approach it) there is not a single one of you, to the exclusion of prophets and messengers, save that he will enter it, i.e. hell. (That is a fixed ordinance of your Lord) it is a decree that must necessarily take place.


Qur'an 19.71 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
There is not one of you but shall come to it, that is, [but] shall enter Hell. That is an inevitability [already] decreed by your Lord, [something which] He made inevitable and [which] He decreed; He will not waive it.


Qur'an 19.71-72 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved
Ibn Jarir reported from `Abdullah that he said concerning Allah's statement,

All Muslims are entering Hell Fire!

Quran 19:72 -
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


You will first Enter the Fire: this is inevitable for you ma. How long will you stay in the fire?
Could it be a deception that you will thereafter be saved!?


Too bad: what if you discover that it is a trick and you would never ever come out of hell?



The only problem is no one know how long you will be in Hell before Allah finally removes you and LEAVE the evil doers hobbling on their knees. Is it 7 million years or 99 million years? We don't know

ahmedio2017:
You have a lot to learn about God and his religion (ISLAM)

All prophets of God came to this life with the same message and purpose but in different dimensions

All prophets of God are Muslims
Who is a Muslim?

A person who believe in oneness of ALLAH
A person who submitted to the will of God

Are regarded as Muslim as the name implies....

Now go and check your Bible how does Aaron, Abraham, Moses, Jesus worshiped their God?

They use to wash their feet, hand, and face (ablution)

Exodus 40:30-38 King James Version (KJV)
And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat: when they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses.

They also worshiped their God by bowing down their face and worship..

All this are quite different from the way you sheeps are worshiping God it is simple

How are you worshiping God? Dancing with another person's wife, clapping,

There are a lot of differences between how Jesus Christ PBUH worshiped his God compare to you sheeps

Why are you not worshiping whom you god is worshiping? It shows how daft you people is....



Now back to your question

When Jesus Christ PBUH came what did he said?

I have NOT COME TO ABOLISH THE LAWS BUT TO AMEND it......

The messages of subsequent prophets use to amend the previous one.....

It was Muhammad that PERFECTED GOD religion (ISLAM)

Do you pray to love like a Jesus? If yes then you must NOT get married and NOT give birth to a baby maybe you should try that........

Exodus 40:30-38 King James Version (KJV)
And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat: when they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses.

Mathew 4:9-10
And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your GOD and him ONLY shall you SERVE.’”

JESUS CHRIST is a MUSLIM he affirmed to the devil and you sheeps that it is ONLY God that you should SERVE

WHY NOT it is ME and my God that you SERVE?

Or why not it is only god the father that u should SERVE

Or why not you should serve god the father and SPIRIT. NA YOU sheeps mumu pass for this earth I SWEAR.


CHRISTIANITY IS A BUSINESS ENTITY NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF IT MY BROTHER ......

Yes, it's a business entity, but they're using the proceeds through various NGOs, to help your brothers and sisters in the North who are in various IDP camps caused by the Muslim terrorists, the products of the most pissful and hateful religion of allah! What of that

Don't you think these are better than the products of true, pissful and hateful religion of allah, the real Muhammedans who always leave, deaths, sorrows, tears and destructions behind wherever they go


Honestly I don't envy you guys, bcs it's not easy to defend Islam and its fake and murderous prophet.

Weldone my guy 👍
He no dey easy !

ahmedio2017:
Pele, only God knows the rest of his prophets
But 25 prophets name was mentioned in the Quran so what is your stress with that ?

And again It wasn't all of them that were given books.

How many tribes or nations do we have in the world? They must be in their hundreds of thousands: all I need is ONE example of Allah giving a name to their books

Let me help you out: Can you show where Allah gave the names Taurat or Zabur or Injeel in the books?


Sorry!
Only the book of Mohammed is an exception to the character of the true God. It is another proof that The Qur'an is definitely a fraud.

Ohyoudidnt:
I wonder where you get this sexual relations from.

The companionship between the righteous believers and the houris in paradise is not described as being sexual.

The concept of houris in Islamic belief is often associated with the reward for faithful Muslim men in paradise. While there are descriptions of houris in Islamic texts that mention their beauty and characteristics, the relationship between believers and houris is typically understood to be one of companionship, purity, and reward rather than physical or sexual in nature.

Muslims and lying are inseparable
1. Why then will Allah marry them to you?
Is it a sexless marriage?

Sunan Ibn Majah 2780
It was narrated from Anas bin Malik that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“The horizons will be opened to you, and you will conquer a city called Qazvin. Whoever is stationed there for forty days or forty nights, will have pillars of gold in Paradise, with green chrysolite and topped by a dome of rubies. It will have seventy thousand doors, at each door will be a wife from among the wide-eyed houris.’”

2. What will you be doing with endless erection in paradise?
Sunan Ibn Majah 4337
It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).’”

3. There is even a brothel in paradise already paid for, you just take your pick

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2550
'Ali narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said:
"Indeed in Paradise there is a market in which there is no buying nor selling- except for images of men and women. So whenever a man desires an image, he enters it."


Contrast with:

Mat 22:30:
"For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

If Jesus came from Allah as his Word and a Spirit from Him, should He not know what transpire in heaven?


Of course, this is another great difference in doctrine between Jesus and Mohammed!

ahmedio2017:
What is my business with you guys? I don't preach for you to change your beliefs, but you guys should leave Islam ALONE your religion shall be urs and mine shall be mine no poke nose......


Stick to your beliefs and leave Islam ALONE ...

Thank you so much sir 🙏 for @bolded and above statements !

Now, pls go and help us convey this same message to the Islamic preachers and Imams, ACADIP and co, to face their religion and leave the Bible and Christianity alone.

I swear, if you people do not desist from attacking Christianity and the Bible, just as one of these Ilorin Imams has predicted that if you pushed the Christians to the wall and they turned back at you, you will see your quran and throw it away as ordinary paper. By the grace of God that his prediction will soon come to pass in Nigeria.

It has begun in middle east, people are leaving Islam and Quran in droves......... I counsel you people to stop attacking Christianity and the Bible, bcs you people will not be able to withstand the intellectual tsunami that's coming to hit Islam Nigeria.

However, thanks once again for admitting that religion should be a matter of personal conviction not by force.

🙏 Pls help send this your massage to all the Islamic terror groups the world over, starting from Northern Nigeria that, religion should be by choice not by force, they should allow the Christians and other none Muslims to breath!

Let allah fight his own battle if he's God !!!

Ohyoudidnt:
Seems I omitted to address.

The fate of Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve disciples of Jesus, is a topic that has been debated for centuries. According to the Bible, Judas betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver and later regretted his actions, returning the money before hanging himself. However, there are also conflicting accounts that suggest Judas died in a different manner.

One theory is that Judas did not actually hang himself but instead died from a fall or other means. Another belief is that he was killed by God as punishment for his betrayal. Some even claim that Judas faked his own death and lived out the rest of his days in exile.

Whether he died by suicide, accident, divine intervention, or lived on in hiding, the story of Judas continues to intrigue and mystify scholars and believers alike.

Your bolded is a complete fabrication otherwise, I challenge you to find me a Christian sect that dispute about the death of Judas.

Let me break it down to you like a primary two pupil

1. Judas hung himself on a tree once he discovered that Jesus was to be crucified
Mat 27:5:
"And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself."

Mathew emphasised only the hanging part of the story.

This was before Jesus was even crucified.

2. By the time Judas was found, he must have bloated up after more than four days hung up on the tree because the next two days were sabbath (no Jew go out for any duty). Even Jesus was not anointed until the third day after crucifixion.

Luke writing the Book of Acts therefore emphasised the shame of Judas bursting open on landing on the ground.

Acts 1:18:
"Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out."

Do people die by bursting their stomach when falling from a height?


Of course, I know you wouldn't listen nor understand because this is the way of Islam.

I still patiently ask:

Why did Allah make Jesus
1. The only human born without an earthly father
2. The only human who created life from clay exactly like Allah
3. The only human who is literally taken up to heaven AND will be returning to judge mankind
Only for Allah himself to scatter the message of Jesus Christ. Why?
Does it even make any sense?

TenQ is a product of this deception of Allah

Can you unequivocally describe exactly how
1. Allah took Jesus to heaven
2. Who was crucified instead of Jesus
3. Why the disciples of Jesus, Mary the mother and all the Apostles of Jesus were decieved by Allah along with the Jews and Romans

ahmedio2017:
Pele, just go and preach to your people, you are the most stubborn sect on earth, though I'm not surprised because Allah said he's the only one that can show someone the light, no matter our efforts you will still remain the same so no need of wasting my energy and time with you. Because even if we continue till Jesus Christ PBUH comes you still remain adamant but you shall know the truth on the day of judgement......


Allah is only one and prophet Muhammad s.a.w is a messenger of Allah

You shall not die unless you are a MUSLIM

That is my last message and advice for you if you will listen so that you can become successful in the hereafter........

If you don't listen, there is no compulsion in religion. Stick to your Christianity and LEAVE Islam ALONE..... Your religion shall be urs and let my religion be mine.....

Don't forget that Allah has already decreed that Christians, Jews and the Sabians will enter Paradise.

AND

You Muslim will enter Hell fire before you are later removed



Moreover, no single Muslim in this universe can guarantee his salvation. Allah has created some of you for Hell and some of you for paradise. It is just all about the destiny of Allah written for you (supposedly, 40 years before you were even born)

TenQ:
The writers wrote at the time people were familiar with the nature of the passover feasts and holidays, thus they needn't expanciate on it. We modern readers may have to go into history and Jewish customs to understand the details of what is written down.

Does this then mean the text is just for the people of that time otherwise why should modern readers be so burdened to look for the meaning?

Is it that the acts of the passover have been abolished and why? If it's a thing of Jewish culture is this categorically stating a Jewish right which impacted the religion is abandoned that it's details are unclear?

TenQ:
You mentioned the illusion of Anachronism caused by Allah himself resulting in
1. Allah misleading over 3.5Billion individuals who claim that Jesus died on the cross.
2. The whole message of Jesus was distorted by this singular act of Allah.


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1. We're the followers of Jesus say in the first 40 to 50 years following his departure burdened with this? I doubt so.

Were they misled or this is part of the test of faith?

1 Peter 1:7 - “These trials will show that your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold—though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world..”

The verse suggests that trials and challenges are not without purpose for believers. They are meant to refine and strengthen one’s faith, demonstrating its authenticity and value.

Matt. 3:12 He is ready to separate the chaff from the wheat with his winnowing fork. Then he will clean up the threshing area, gathering the wheat into his barn but burning the chaff with never-ending fire.”

In this verse John the Baptist is assumed to be addressing the Pharisees and Sadducees. The wheat represents those who are truly repentant, the chaff those like the Pharisees and Sadducees who are not.

ahmedio2017:
perhaps you don't even understand English

"And there is none among you who is not to arrive at it." - 19:71. This means that everybody - be he a BELIEVER or an INFIDEL - will go ACROSS Hell. However, this does not mean that they would go to stay in it; they would only go ACROSS it.


What is the Quran verse 19 70 to 72?
(19:70) and then We shall know well all those most worthy to be cast in Hell. (19:71) There is not one of you but shall pass by Hell. This is a decree which your Lord will fulfil. (19:72) Then We shall deliver those that feared Allah and leave the wrong-doers there on their knees.


I cannot continue to waste my energy and time with a dullard like you honestly.....


HONESTLY if you don't repent hell fire is your ABODE

Why do you derive joy in fooling yourself.


I have challenged you to look at the Arabic of verse 71 and find me pass by Hell.
(19:71) There is not one of you but shall pass by Hell.

Did I not show you your Tafsirs by Ibn Abbas, Ibn Kathir and Al-Jalalyn : have you confirmed what they said?



Hell fire is waiting for you Sir. Only that I don't know how many million years you will spend before Allah removes you and leaves the evil doers hobbling on their knees!

TenQ:
Can you unequivocally describe exactly how
1. Allah took Jesus to heaven
2. Who was crucified instead of Jesus
3. Why the disciples of Jesus, Mary the mother and all the Apostles of Jesus were decieved by Allah along with the Jews and Romans

And I have explained off All your misconceptions but of course, it doesn't pay you to listen nor understand.

I challenge you to state the details of what exactly happened to Jesus and why Allah needed to destroy all the work Jesus came to do here on earth.

Until you can state exactly what happened to Jesus and match timeline and history, you have no case.
Is it untrue that the best you can do is to manufacture conjecture in explaining what happened to Jesus?

According to this, Isa (Jesus) a.s. was not crucified nor killed but was raised up to Allah. It appeared to those who
wanted to crucify him that they had succeeded, but Allah saved him. Islamic tradition holds that Isa a.s. will
return before the Day of Judgment to restore justice and defeat the false messiah (Dajjal). The exact details of
how the crucifixion was made to appear to them are not given in Islamic sources, and Allah knows best the full story.

Do you know the exact details of how Adam was moulded from clay, the Sun, stars and galaxy were created; how exactly God created rest through sleep for man and the exact time you sleep and wake up? Are you arrogantly trying to know these precise details to became a god? Your not knowing these exactly doesn't stop them from being and occuring.

TenQ:
Are you stating unequivocally that Adam was God's son in Islam?

Because, your prophet said that Adam was created in the image of Allah.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525
He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”

I am just following your argument!

This is your biblical or Christian theology and a further explanation of the concept of Son of God ism.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525 is referring to position of honour and if I may add blows or hits on the face can affect the brain through which man derives intellect and intelligence to appropriately serve as a vicergent of Allah.

It should be protected from harm asside its controlling the individual internal and external activities

TenQ:
Even verse 72 betrays you sir

Quoting you:
72. Then We will rescue those who were devout, and leave the wrongdoers in it, on their knees.

From where would be Muslims be rescued?
Is it not from Inside hell Fire?

If evil doers will be LEFT on their knees, does it not connote that they are left only after you Muslims were removed from their midst?


Is it untrue that some of your scholars speaking the truth agree with me!?
Would you say that Ibn Abbas the cousin of your prophet doesn't understand the Qur'an?


See what the Tafsirs say:
ALL Muslims will enter the Fire of Hell until they are finally ransomed.

See the Tafsirs on Qur'an 19:71

Quran 19 :71 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(There is not one of you but shall approach it) there is not a single one of you, to the exclusion of prophets and messengers, save that he will enter it, i.e. hell. (That is a fixed ordinance of your Lord) it is a decree that must necessarily take place.


Qur'an 19.71 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
There is not one of you but shall come to it, that is, [but] shall enter Hell. That is an inevitability [already] decreed by your Lord, [something which] He made inevitable and [which] He decreed; He will not waive it.


Qur'an 19.71-72 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved
Ibn Jarir reported from `Abdullah that he said concerning Allah's statement,

All Muslims are entering Hell Fire!

Quran 19:72 -
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


You will first Enter the Fire: this is inevitable for you ma. How long will you stay in the fire?
Could it be a deception that you will thereafter be saved!?


Too bad: what if you discover that it is a trick and you would never ever come out of hell?



The only problem is no one know how long you will be in Hell before Allah finally removes you and LEAVE the evil doers hobbling on their knees. Is it 7 million years or 99 million years? We don't know

If 10 men are lined up for execution but 2 are taken away from this line up haven't these 2 been saved or rescued?

Ohyoudidnt:
Does this then mean the text is just for the people of that time otherwise why should modern readers be so burdened to look for the meaning?

Is it that the acts of the passover have been abolished and why? If it's a thing of Jewish culture is this categorically stating a Jewish right which impacted the religion is abandoned that it's details are unclear?

It is because of people like you who are desperately trying to look for defence for your book of doom from Mohammed.

As you desperately try to Find Mohammed in the Bible, you at the same time desperately try to find fault with the book

Ohyoudidnt:
1. We're the followers of Jesus say in the first 40 to 50 years following his departure burdened with this? I doubt so.

Disciples of Jesus were killed in terrible ways proclaiming that Jesus was crucified on the cross, He died, He resurected and went up to heaven in their presence.

Didn't Allah wait for over 600 years when Christianity has spread to Arabia, Africa, Middle East and Europe

Is it untrue that Allah mislead over 3.5Billion individuals who now claim that Jesus died on the cross?

Ohyoudidnt:
Were they misled or this is part of the test of faith?

1 Peter 1:7 - “These trials will show that your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold—though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world..”

The verse suggests that trials and challenges are not without purpose for believers. They are meant to refine and strengthen one’s faith, demonstrating its authenticity and value.

Matt. 3:12 He is ready to separate the chaff from the wheat with his winnowing fork. Then he will clean up the threshing area, gathering the wheat into his barn but burning the chaff with never-ending fire.”

In this verse John the Baptist is assumed to be addressing the Pharisees and Sadducees. The wheat represents those who are truly repentant, the chaff those like the Pharisees and Sadducees who are not.

Christians were not tried of their faith, they were misled by Allah according to Islam.

You Muslims don't even have a clue to what Trials and Temptations are:
Temptations:
These are the sweet desirable thing satan brings our way so that we will go against the will and command of God for us. Temptations are often from the things we desire Eg. Money, Sex, Power, Influence etc
God doesn't tempt us!

Trials:
Trials are difficult and hard things satan or sometimes God brings our way so that we will go against the will and command of God for us. God often allows satan to try us. Trials are of the things we avoid Pain, Shame, Death, Persecution, Disaster, Lack etc
Sometimes like Abraham, God Himself can try us (Exam)

Tell me and explain according to Islamic theology how God misleads us as a Trial?

Let me help you out( with Christian theology and understanding of God).
If God tells me as a Christian to jump down from a Airplane, I should jump!
Why?
Righteousness is following exactly the command of God even if it results in death!

It is in fact faithlessness if God commands me to jump down from a plane and I refuse to do so.

This is like the case of Abraham :
God said to him: take your son whom you love and sacrifice him for me.
Righteousness is when Abraham obeys God and Faithlessness is if Abraham refuses to sacrifice his son.


So, tell me how if God convinces me that Jesus died on the cross, resurrected and rose up to heaven it becomes righteousness to disbelieve God and claim that Jesus didn't die nor was He crucified?

TenQ:
Muslims and lying are inseparable
1. Why then will Allah marry them to you?
Is it a sexless marriage?

Sunan Ibn Majah 2780
It was narrated from Anas bin Malik that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“The horizons will be opened to you, and you will conquer a city called Qazvin. Whoever is stationed there for forty days or forty nights, will have pillars of gold in Paradise, with green chrysolite and topped by a dome of rubies. It will have seventy thousand doors, at each door will be a wife from among the wide-eyed houris.’”

2. What will you be doing with endless erection in paradise?
Sunan Ibn Majah 4337
It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).’”

3. There is even a brothel in paradise already paid for, you just take your pick

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2550
'Ali narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said:
"Indeed in Paradise there is a market in which there is no buying nor selling- except for images of men and women. So whenever a man desires an image, he enters it."


Contrast with:

Mat 22:30:
"For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

If Jesus came from Allah as his Word and a Spirit from Him, should He not know what transpire in heaven?


Of course, this is another great difference in doctrine between Jesus and Mohammed!

These Maudu and Daifs are created for your use TENQ enforcer of falsities?

Ohyoudidnt:
According to this, Isa (Jesus) a.s. was not crucified nor killed but was raised up to Allah. It appeared to those who
wanted to crucify him that they had succeeded, but Allah saved him. Islamic tradition holds that Isa a.s. will
return before the Day of Judgment to restore justice and defeat the false messiah (Dajjal). The exact details of
how the crucifixion was made to appear to them are not given in Islamic sources, and Allah knows best the full story.

Do you know the exact details of how Adam was moulded from clay, the Sun, stars and galaxy were created; how exactly God created rest through sleep for man and the exact time you sleep and wake up? Are you arrogantly trying to know these precise details to became a god? Your not knowing these exactly doesn't stop them from being and occuring.

I hear you but the issue is this

Can you unequivocally describe exactly how
1. Allah took Jesus to heaven (in private or in public)
2. Who was crucified instead of Jesus?
3. Why the disciples of Jesus, Mary the mother and all the Apostles of Jesus were decieved by Allah along with the Jews and Romans?

Rhetorics are meaningless when you cannot explain why or how what you state is factual.

I can claim that President Tinubu has a horn but it is meaningless unless I can supply concrete reasons or evidence


About the creation of Adam and the Universe :
Was there any other evidence?

In the case of Christ, there were Evidences to the Christian narrative. What are the Evidences of the Islamic Narrative?

Ohyoudidnt:
This is your biblical or Christian theology and a further explanation of the concept of Son of God ism.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525 is referring to position of honour and if I may add blows or hits on the face can affect the brain through which man derives intellect and intelligence to appropriately serve as a vicergent of Allah.

It should be protected from harm asside its controlling the individual internal and external activities

I said:
Only God reserves the right to adopt anyone or any of His Creation as his Child : is this difficult to comprehend?

The bone of contention is that
1. Yahweh adopts some of His creatures as His children
2. Allah does NOT adopt any of his creation as his child.


And this is a proof that Allah and Yahweh are not the same person.