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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:19pm On Mar 27
LordReed:


Nonsense question.

This is his MO. Lies then obfuscates with nonsense.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:32pm On Mar 27
ijebosb:


This is his MO. Lies then obfuscates with nonsense.

They lie to obfuscate their deplorability.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 4:50pm On Mar 27
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:59pm On Mar 27
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 5:17pm On Mar 27
PDPGuy:
Attorney Shanahan is the boost RFK Jr needed…
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-03-26/robert-f-kennedy-jr-nicole-shanahan-vice-president-2024-election

Is she that popular? If not for her divorce from Sergey Brin and the alleged affair with Musk, I won't have heard of her.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:26pm On Mar 27
PDPGuy:
Attorney Shanahan is the boost RFK Jr needed…
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-03-26/robert-f-kennedy-jr-nicole-shanahan-vice-president-2024-election

I like the fact that RFK is not a weak candidate. I see more attacks towards him

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:52pm On Mar 27
bemeruca:


I like the fact that RFK is not a weak candidate. I see more attacks towards him

So, question, how many people clicked through your links that day. Or how many people's info from this thread did you get?

The whole thing is very scam-y, fraud-y, 419-y and what was that word Clinton used? Deplorable.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:04pm On Mar 27
ijebosb:


So, question, how many people clicked through your links that day. Or how many people's info from this thread did you get?

The whole thing is very scam-y, fraud-y, 419-y and what was that word Clinton used? Deplorable.

Ijobless 😂
You are trying so hard to get back at me but I am excited when you try. You are my clown, you have to amuse me everyday 🤡🤡🤡
Tell me, have your dad forgive your mom giving birth to you or he still beats her anytime the three of you are in the same space?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:14pm On Mar 27
bemeruca:


Ijobless 😂
You are trying so hard to get back at me but I am excited when you try. You are my clown, you have to amuse me everyday 🤡🤡🤡
Tell me, have your dad forgive your mom giving birth to you or he still beats her anytime the three of you are in the same space?

I guess being known as a fraudster would be exciting to a fraudster.
What fraud are you running today?

In terms of joblessness, why don't we let the stats speak fraudmeruca.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nastymods: 6:14pm On Mar 27
bemeruca:


Ijobless 😂
You are trying so hard to get back at me but I am excited when you try. You are my clown, you have to amuse me everyday 🤡🤡🤡
Tell me, have your dad forgive your mom giving birth to you or he still beats her anytime the three of you are in the same space?

Ijebosb IjeBos isa two ah times tha donkey ye

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:19pm On Mar 27
ijebosb:


So let's get this right.
You wasted part of your day finding an ip tracking site.
You then found a link of an image to embed this tracking site.
You them posted that link on this site so Nairalanders would click on it and you could get their IP addresses.

https://www.nairaland.com/8032958/nairalander-caught-hacking-another-users#129137256

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:24pm On Mar 27
ijebosb:


I guess being known as a fraudster would be exciting to a fraudster.
What fraud are you running today?

In terms of joblessness, why don't we let the stats speak fraudmeruca.


Ijoblessness 🤡🤡🤡 make another excel spreadsheet of time spent crying to budaatu 🤣

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:51pm On Mar 27
bemeruca:


Ijoblessness 🤡🤡🤡 make another excel spreadsheet of time spent crying to budaatu 🤣

Would that be more or less than the time you have spent reporting people to mods to get them banned for calling you an "idiot". Just wondering.
Again what type of sensitive illiterate reports someone for calling them an "idiot".

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 6:58pm On Mar 27
LordAdam16:


I'll admit Trump's chances look so good right now, but I still can't bring myself to accept that he'll be allowed to return to the WH.
In March 2020, he was on track to an easy re-election... And then COVID hit.

I am impatiently waiting for the other shoe to drop.
That development that makes you go, "Here we go again."

But if somehow he pulls the W, his face should be added to Mt. Rushmore.

-Lord
Trump was being trounced in the polls all through the 2020 election cycle by Biden but I agree he had higher chances of reelection until covid struck.

I'm quite confident Trump is in a better position even better than 2016 especially when faced with Biden... In 2016 pundits and commentators predicted Trump didn't stand a single chance against Clinton but in this election cycle the case is totally different.

Let's not act like Biden is Clinton or even Obama... He has lots of things going against him too but we'll see how it goes as we approach Labor and enter the falls.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:15pm On Mar 27
I so love the fact that magas must pay to lie.

https://wapo.st/4cAAvPu

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:29pm On Mar 27

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 7:45pm On Mar 27
raumdeuter:


Maybe the never Trumpers and Lincoln project guys can vote RFK instead of adding to Bidens vote

Republicans who don't like Trump can vote RFK, Democrats who don't like Biden can vote RFK
What's RFK stand on the Gaza war? If anti Israel Maybe he will get some youth and Moslem votes too from Biden

The VP pick of Shanahan will fund his campaign I'm guessing

I am more concerned about down ballot Senate and Congress
Some never Trumpers would vote for Biden while most would vote for RFK jnr.
Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins has signalled they wouldn't vote for Biden inasmuch they won't vote for Trump. Democrats like Joe Lieberman would definitely vote RFK jnr.
Never Trumpers have never voted for Trump but they sour on Biden now and they're the part of the coalition that brought Biden to power but they'll be splitting their votes this year.

Shanahan is a progressive so I think he chose her to balance his ticket... The Dems has already been calling him right winger because of his covid stance but he's still socially liberal and supports green new deal. And yes Shanahan would help fund his campaign and help him garner signatures to be on ballots.

Trump has strong coattails. I don't see how Trump carries state like Ohio, Montana and maybe Wisconsin and Michigan then the Democrat candidates gets elected... Remember those are not even Susan Collins type in bipartisanship or even Manchin. Polarization is also far greater now than in 2016.

I'm predicting:
1. Trump wins Ohio and carries Moreno (we can see it from the primary result). Moreno won every county... Besides Sherrod Brown is a far left liberal dem in a state that is moving rapidly to the right. He voted 97 percent of the time with Biden and Schumer. He ain't no bipartisan moderate.

2. Trump wins Montana by 19 to 20 points then Sheehy wins by 2.5 to 3 points. Montana is less polarized than Ohio because of how rural it is... No big cities like other highly populated states. And Tester has this rural, working class and farmer demeanour that appeals to the small populated State but this time around he'll be defeated. He'll share a ticket with Trump whom he voted to convict twice and he has voted 93 percent of the time with Biden. He won't deceive Montanans that he's a moderate because his opponent would be well funded too to run ads against him. He has high approval ratings for now (it'll go down before election day) but it won't translate to much votes for him... Ask Steve Bullock.

Brown and Tester has never actually being elected on a red year now they'll even be sharing a ticket with Trump... How do you convince significant over Trump voters to vote for Trump then vote for you??

3. I believe if Trump wins Michigan, Mike Rogers would win too. It's an open seat.

4. Pennsylvania and Wisconsin has incumbents defending their seats. Bob Casey is squaring off against a well-funded Candidate in Mccormick and not some Oz moment ... He's in a fight for his political life. He won by 8 points back in blue year 2018... I think he wins by 2 or 3 this time. Trump can win by 1 point if Casey wins a very close election.

Wisconsin has the same scenario as Pennsylvania but I think Baldwin has higher chance of losing to Casey's. The Caseys' is a traditional family name in PA just like Beshear in Kentucky but difference is Beshear would definitely lose a federal race in Kentucky... He's father was a popular pro life governor that fought against abortion (remember planned parenthood v Casey) but Bob has flipped his positions on abortion over the years... Now he's a reliable rubber-stamp progressive. He isn't even bipartisan.

House races would be a bit unpredictable but statewide is different ballgame....Different coalition of voters to offset district races.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 7:52pm On Mar 27
basilico loco has no shame yet 😁

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 7:54pm On Mar 27
Why republican leaders are running away from Criminal trump like you'd run away from the corrosive stench of a duck shit 😁

Even Mike Pence who spent four short miserable years with him won't even endorse the Criminal.

Criminal trump is running the most unappealing and ugliest presidential campaign in history.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 8:02pm On Mar 27
ijebosb:


Kennedy being a raging liberal is right wing blather.
The themes in this post are 'a lot'.
Are you planning to vote for Trump in 24?
Check Kennedy's previous posts and positions, he's a full blown liberal... He's only kinda moderating cos of election.
He's running as an independent today because of how DNC treated him... If his candidacy jeopardizes Biden... Then it's a big L to DNC.

I'll watch who Trump is picking for Veep before I make my decision. I'll support a Trump/Gabbard, Trump/Stefanik or Trump Noem ticket.
I don't mind Ben Carson or Tim Scott as VP.

But I want a woman as VP not because of DEI or sentiments but I just like the aforementioned peeps.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 8:23pm On Mar 27
budaatum:


A $4-million boost?
My comment was tongue-in-cheek 🤣

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 8:24pm On Mar 27
Obrigardo:
basilico loco has no shame yet 😁
Trump sha 🤣
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:26pm On Mar 27
PDPGuy:

My comment was tongue-in-cheek 🤣

So was mine, lol.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 8:28pm On Mar 27
LordReed:


Is she that popular? If not for her divorce from Sergey Brin and the alleged affair with Musk, I won't have heard of her.
I also don’t think her addition to the ticket would propel RFK Jr to garner more than 14% of the vote, nationwide, nor 12% of the vote in the key swing states
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 8:39pm On Mar 27
Laurene:
Trump was being trounced in the polls all through the 2020 election cycle by Biden but I agree he had higher chances of reelection until covid struck.

I'm quite confident Trump is in a better position even better than 2016 especially when faced with Biden... In 2016 pundits and commentators predicted Trump didn't stand a single chance against Clinton but in this election cycle the case is totally different.

Let's not act like Biden is Clinton or even Obama... He has lots of things going against him too but we'll see how it goes as we approach Labor and enter the falls.

True. If the scales weren't scandalously tipped in Biden's favor, Trump will defeat him every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And that's the point really, isn't it? That they've somehow transformed an unelectable, hair-sniffing, dementia-addled Octogenarian into some Rock of Gibraltar because Trump is on the ballot. It speaks both to their desperation and their frightening resolution to do whatever it takes to stop Trump.

-Lord
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:47pm On Mar 27
PDPGuy:

I also don’t think her addition to the ticket would propel RFK Jr to garner more than 14% of the vote, nationwide, nor 12% of the vote in the key swing states

What is her appeal though?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:50pm On Mar 27
LordAdam16:


True. If the scales weren't scandalously tipped in Biden's favor, Trump will defeat him every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And that's the point really, isn't it? That they've somehow transformed an unelectable, hair-sniffing, dementia-addled Octogenarian into some Rock of Gibraltar because Trump is on the ballot. It speaks both to their desperation and their frightening resolution to do whatever it takes to stop Trump.

-Lord


Be aware that the scales are not yet scandalously tipped in Biden's favor.

buda intends to wake all those who died of COVID plus all the citizens of every Latin American country plus Canada to join the scales and very scandalously tip the 2024 election in Biden's favor.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:52pm On Mar 27
LordReed:


What is her appeal though?

Read the goddamn fuqing article my Lord.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 9:05pm On Mar 27
budaatum:


Read the goddamn fuqing article my Lord.

Well I read it and still couldn't figure out what her appeal to voters was. It certainly couldn't be her age because then any person her age would do. If people are expecting this matchup to draw voters then there has to be something compelling there.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:21pm On Mar 27
LordReed:


Well I read it and still couldn't figure out what her appeal to voters was. It certainly couldn't be her age because then any person her age would do. If people are expecting this matchup to draw voters then there has to be something compelling there.

No one expects this matchup to draw voters anywhere except the money it brings to RFK.

In fact, I can see his VP position has gone to the highest bidder.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 10:25pm On Mar 27
Laurene:
Some never Trumpers would vote for Biden while most would vote for RFK jnr.
Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins has signalled they wouldn't vote for Biden inasmuch they won't vote for Trump. Democrats like Joe Lieberman would definitely vote RFK jnr.
Never Trumpers have never voted for Trump but they sour on Biden now and they're the part of the coalition that brought Biden to power but they'll be splitting their votes this year.

Shanahan is a progressive so I think he chose her to balance his ticket... The Dems has already been calling him right winger because of his covid stance but he's still socially liberal and supports green new deal. And yes Shanahan would help fund his campaign and help him garner signatures to be on ballots.

Trump has strong coattails. I don't see how Trump carries state like Ohio, Montana and maybe Wisconsin and Michigan then the Democrat candidates gets elected... Remember those are not even Susan Collins type in bipartisanship or even Manchin. Polarization is also far greater now than in 2016.

I'm predicting:
1. Trump wins Ohio and carries Moreno (we can see it from the primary result). Moreno won every county... Besides Sherrod Brown is a far left liberal dem in a state that is moving rapidly to the right. He voted 97 percent of the time with Biden and Schumer. He ain't no bipartisan moderate.

2. Trump wins Montana by 19 to 20 points then Sheehy wins by 2.5 to 3 points. Montana is less polarized than Ohio because of how rural it is... No big cities like other highly populated states. And Tester has this rural, working class and farmer demeanour that appeals to the small populated State but this time around he'll be defeated. He'll share a ticket with Trump whom he voted to convict twice and he has voted 93 percent of the time with Biden. He won't deceive Montanans that he's a moderate because his opponent would be well funded too to run ads against him. He has high approval ratings for now (it'll go down before election day) but it won't translate to much votes for him... Ask Steve Bullock.

Brown and Tester has never actually being elected on a red year now they'll even be sharing a ticket with Trump... How do you convince significant over Trump voters to vote for Trump then vote for you??

3. I believe if Trump wins Michigan, Mike Rogers would win too. It's an open seat.

4. Pennsylvania and Wisconsin has incumbents defending their seats. Bob Casey is squaring off against a well-funded Candidate in Mccormick and not some Oz moment ... He's in a fight for his political life. He won by 8 points back in blue year 2018... I think he wins by 2 or 3 this time. Trump can win by 1 point if Casey wins a very close election.

Wisconsin has the same scenario as Pennsylvania but I think Baldwin has higher chance of losing to Casey's. The Caseys' is a traditional family name in PA just like Beshear in Kentucky but difference is Beshear would definitely lose a federal race in Kentucky... He's father was a popular pro life governor that fought against abortion (remember planned parenthood v Casey) but Bob has flipped his positions on abortion over the years... Now he's a reliable rubber-stamp progressive. He isn't even bipartisan.

House races would be a bit unpredictable but statewide is different ballgame....Different coalition of voters to offset district races.

You sound very well grounded in these local elections kudos

You know for the presidential elections the battle will be in 5 states Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan Arizona and Wisconsin. If I want to really expand I will push to 8 by adding Minnesota and Ohio (both are more predictable than the other 5)

I was thinking if RFK mission was to torpedo Bidens chances or help Trump the thing he could have done was pick a local popular guy from one the the first 5states. A local boy like Ventura can steal a lot of Biden votes in Minnesota, or Aaron Rodgers can steal a lot of Biden votes in Wisconsin

Picking Shanahan means he wont likely do much harm on the national level besides scraping a few thousand votes here and there but not enough to make any real damage to the final result

I see 3 toss up Senate seats (Montana Ohio Arizona ranked from most likely to least likely)

Montana Tester vs Sheehy. Given that Trump is on the ballot same day in a reliably red state I say Republican flip this

Ohio I will say it leans Republican too but I am not as certain as Montana

Arizona - I was hoping that Sinema would run as an independent, but given that she is not running, this race favors Democrat Gallego the advantage over Kari Lake as Sinema would not be taking votes away

Pennsylvania - This is an example of where I have the beef with Trump for interfering with the GOP nomination in 2022 by bringing and propping up Dr Oz who was from New Jersey vs McCormick a reliable Republican. I believe if McCormick has run vs Fetterman he would have flipped the seat given Fettermans struggles and health issues but Dr Oz was just not it and cost the party bigly. The chance to take PA senate seat might have gone with the Trumps Dr Oz gamble

I think the GOP did a better job at recruiting this cycle than in 2022. Getting Larry Hogan in MD into the race was brilliant, even if he doesnt win, he forces the Democrats to divert money into this race instead of it being a Blue walk over, Also getting McCormick into Pennsylvania was a good move though 2yrs late IMO

They should have convinced Sununu to run for the NH seat in 2022 to unseat Maggie Hassan instead of Bolduc who lost feebly

Its left to be seen how the state votes in Presidency given they are at the forefront of the immigration like Texas NM and Cali

- Michigan I dont think Trump wins Michigan. He lost by 150K votes there in 2020. I dont think 150k people have changed their minds nor 100k flipped over. I know there is a lot of noise about Moslem votes but I dont see them voting for Trump either, while by election day many will hold their nose and vote Biden

The states Trump has a chance of flipping will be those he lost marginally, Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin. Flipping these 3 wont be enough to get Trump the win which is why I think Biden still wins the election

Unless something massive happens between now and Nov that makes Trump wins Michigan Nevada Wisc and Pennsylvania. I think its still Bidens to lose

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 10:26pm On Mar 27
LordReed:


What is her appeal though?
It’s her wealth and connections to big money movers. Their campaign needs all that cash in order to qualify for the ballot in enough states (and possibly DC) to win the minimum of 270 EC votes.. (which is obviously a long shot)

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