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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 11:12am On Apr 01 |
afrodoc2: .....Erisco Man sees nothing wrong in bad PR cos nothing like bad PR to him. He is currently running promotions across Markets and locals dey rush em products witiwiti. Sponsored News on International Media ain't gonna stop the man, cos he is damn determined to fight till the end. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:12am On Apr 01 |
BlueRayDick:They're trying to get at his source for the info he's releasing. A lawsuit gives them an excuse to arrest him, normal naija way, and under pressure they'd hopefully force his source out. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:13am On Apr 01 |
So, Chioma even made a post saying Erisco paste was killing people? Criticism at its finest 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 11:16am On Apr 01 |
izzou: .....did you miss the screenshots?! Everything said in the clip is legit.
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:19am On Apr 01 |
afrodoc2: Nigeria is a jungle and the strongest animals prey on the weakest . I watched that Facebook video posted up there and from the video I noticed the man explaining how he intervened to get Chioma released . The man also truthfully stated he didn't know wassup with Chioma afterwards since she didn't answer his calls neither did she post any apology as agreed at the police station. From all indications it's obvious the Chioma lady also sought legal advice after the September 2023 incident which made her not want to honor whatever agreement she had with Erisco and the police under duress . Below is her lawyer claiming she actually got a court order barring the police from arresting her . On Tuesday, Inibehe Effiong, Okoli’s lawyer, in a series of posts on X (formerly Twitter) said some police officers invaded Okoli’s house at about 7 am and attempted to re-arrest her. If not that naija is a jungle , why will the police disregard a valid court order and then claim they are maintaining law and order ? 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:22am On Apr 01 |
Theflint1: I want to believe the guy is presently not in Nigeria . I believe that's the only way they've not gotten him this far. In Nigeria criminals are close to the seat of power and they use this closeness to their very own advantage 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:22am On Apr 01 |
OasisX: SMH. My concern in this whole issh is how businesses can be protected in situations like this. Should every business be bullied to begging a faceless online post, even when they are lying or have never even used the product at all? In the video Ibime posted, they asked Chioma where the product she used was. She said she threw it away. They asked her where she bought it. She said she does not know. So, even in the lens of objectivity, Chioma could be lying about using the paste sef. And then you go about saying it was filled with Sugar and its killing people 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 11:23am On Apr 01 |
OasisX: To paraphrase the great philosopher Baddo, "freedom of speech is guaranteed but freedom after speech is not certain". 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 11:30am On Apr 01 |
izzou: ......some folks actually, perhaps emotionally, believe the man should have done nothing. He should have let her run down his business for clout chasing. Imagine her saying she forgot where she bought it?! NAFDAC certified the product(s) but we should have ignored a regulating body's certification for clout Chaser's review. If she didn't mention 'ki****ing part, Erisco wouldn't have got her arrested. You can't spoil my product(s) and expect me to do nothing. Some of us do say it here that its hard to run business successfully in Nigeria. Few that struggling hard to build their businesses in the country, we still wanna run it down. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 11:30am On Apr 01 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 11:34am On Apr 01 |
afrodoc2: .....exactly. She has enjoyed her freedom of speech in peace, we should let Erisco enjoy freedom after speech too. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:56am On Apr 01 |
BlueRayDick: The truth is that, this matter would've been settled if Iniehebe wasn't involved in the matter. The same letter of apology that the man talked on in that video is the same one that Iniehebe said Chioma wrote under duress. Social media is a really funny place, where so called anti oppressor crusaders will rather let a simple matter that would be resolved easily turn into a charade for clout sake. While Chioma had the right to criticize the company, defamation is a crime and the company has the right to sue and be sued. What is currently happening to the company online is bullying which is why I think the man want to prosecute the case at all cost. You cannot defame a company and say the company has to right to defend itself. At the end of the day, whatever happens to the case, Chioma will face it alone and those edging her on and using her for clout will not be there with her. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 12:06pm On Apr 01 |
Amigoss:April fool tinz |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:14pm On Apr 01 |
larride: See ehn, Nigeria is a funny place and the more u look the less u see . I'm not a fan of defaming a business , but if u feel ur business is being defamed u should go through the legal route of seeking redress in court . From what I've observed thus far, Chioma made a post that the man found to be defamatory to his business brand and he wrote a petition for the police to prosecute her for criminal defamation ( I may be wrong , but this is what I think happened) Now from that man's video I watched in which he claimed he stepped in to have things between Chioma and the erisco man resolved out of court, it appears the erisco man agreed with that and wanted Chioma to write an apology so he can tell police to withdraw the case. Obviously Chioma left the police detention and Effiong being a human rights lawyer advised her not to abide by the police station agreement because the initial detention was illegal and even the agreement they had was illegal cos she was under duress. Effiong proceeded to obtain a court order to bar the police from further arresting Chioma on the same issue in November 2023 but Nigerian police acting true to character refused to obey that court order. All of these boils down to lawlessness that is prevalent in Nigeria . Even people who stole billions of naira in this country go from their home to go for hearing . As we speak Fayose has a 6.9 billion case against him by EFCC for stealing public funds that should've been put to public use and he's going about his day to day normal life. If the Nigerian police has a criminal case against the Chioma lady for defaming Erisco foods, they should prosecute her while she goes to court from her home . The company has a right to test their case in court . Since the man has said he will rather die than let her go , then let him do things the right way instead of Nigerian police acting as tho they have more power than a law court 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 12:28pm On Apr 01 |
A40: Calm down guy. If you want toast this babe, mention her on another thread abeg. What is this epistle? 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:32pm On Apr 01 |
BlueRayDick: From what I know about the case, the case is actually in a federal court in Abuja. All these would've been resolved if she had just agreed with the resolution they made in front of her lawyer in the first place and the issued would've died down. Posting the apology letter on Facebook is just to give back the company the credibility that she throws to the mud when she said the product is killing people. Nigeria is just a funny place because the police is constitutionally back to make arrest and detain people. Section 373 of the criminal code treats defamation as a criminal offense if the matter is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing the person to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or likely to damage any person in his or her profession or trade by injury to his reputation. The above clearly gives the police the power to arrest and detain her and then charge her to court. But then our judiciary are used to grant useless orders. Imagine a court of law granting an order that's stoppin the police from carrying out arrest of a suspect in a criminal offense who jumped bail? Its the same way that PH high court stopped EFCC from ever arresting or prosecuting Peter Odili. The moment you jump bail, it's a different matter entirely. The fact of the case has been relegated to start talking about illegal detention from police and all that. This matter would've been resolved since last year September but then 6 months later, shes still running kitikiti while pursuing a case in a federal court while those edging her own are in their house using her to chase clout online. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 12:39pm On Apr 01 |
izzou:She didn't use the word killing. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:41pm On Apr 01 |
Ibime:Hehehehe |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:47pm On Apr 01 |
larride: Did the Nigerian law say if a person jumps bail the police can detain u illegally ? If the police would not obey a court order, then what law are they relying on to claim they are maintaining "law" and order? When u say jump bail what do u mean? Did the case come up in court and the lady refused to appear at the hearing? Court pronouncements in themselves are laws. Why is nobody hounding Peter Odili u mentioned after a court order barred the security agencies from arresting or prosecuting him? The thing is in Nigeria we let emotions take the better of us and we tend to argue in favour of what side of the divide that favors us. The man has a case of criminal defamation he wants the police to pursue on his behalf . Fine! The offence is bailable; Fine! Let the man and his company mount pressure on the police to accelerate the court to hear the case while the lady goes to the hearing from her home anytime the case comes up. The police don't have powers to just lock someone up indefinitely when a judge has barred them from doing so. It is simply illegal. But I understand this is Nigeria tho. U are right the lady had a chance to let the things go the Nigerian way by apologizing, but since she declined to that offer it doesn't necessarily mean she should now be detained illegally na. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:52pm On Apr 01 |
Ellexy: Okay oh. I really hope she has enough in her arsenal to defend herself in a real court, not X She does not have the product. Heck, she has no record or memory of where she bought or got it from. But she used it, and it had only sugar ba? She already boxed herself to a corner, and i believe the court will use her as an example. 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chidekings(m): 1:00pm On Apr 01 |
larride:no one should have mercy on that chioma.....after everything u agreed to write an apology on your wall so the matter dies a natural death.....but as soon as she was released,she refused to do all she agreed at the police station,which makes the man to assume someone is using her to bring his company down....man is just fighting for the integrity of his business. 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 1:02pm On Apr 01 |
izzou:We'll see |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 1:02pm On Apr 01 |
BlueRayDick: This is exactly I was saying up there. When did the police detain her illegally? That's where we should start from? From my knowledge of the fact of the case, the lady was only detained when the man went to the police to sue her for defamation. Dont forget that the police cant detain you for 48hrs before charging you to court or releasing on bail, if you are released on bail, you are bound to always honor the police invitation? Again the case is in court in Abuja and it is Chioma, her lawyers and influencers on Twitter that are bullying the company online. From when she was granted bail at the police station till now, the lady hasn't been arrested or detained by the police. The only time the police tried to rearrest her was in Jan and which wasn't successful. I hope you know that jumping bail can lead yo additional criminal charge of obstruction of justice? The only time the police detained her was when the matter was first brought to the police and she was granted bail and released for them to go settle the matter amicably before our human rights activist turn the whole matter into something else. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Eunoiaa(f): 1:03pm On Apr 01 |
Omo. I don confuse sef. Is A 40 different from A 001 abi they are one and the same person?? ?? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 1:06pm On Apr 01 |
chidekings: It's a no brainer. Nobody will sit idle by and watch someone ruin their company with lies and then resort to bullying of both the company and the police to evade facing consequences. The funny thing was that she actually posted the apology letter on her wall before she deleted it and her new lawyer who wasn't there when they agreement and resolution was made in the first place said she wrote the apology under duress. Lol. Duress my ass. When they use her for their own agenda finish, her eyes will clear. The case carry a 7yrs jail time, I hope and pray that she has all evidence to protect herself or else... 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Eunoiaa(f): 1:14pm On Apr 01 |
larride: Oh... Thank you... the A and 0 in their names have me thinking it's the same person. I thought it was 001 and I responded enthusiastically. Tch. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:16pm On Apr 01 |
Ellexy: .....so until its spelt out ABC before you admit the context?! LOL! 1 Like
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:24pm On Apr 01 |
larride: Okay let me break it down again for u. 1. Chioma was arrested in Spetember on a Sunday and released on Tuesday. That's definitely not 48 hours legally allowed for the police to detain a suspect. That's illegality number 1 from the Nigerian police. 2. Chioma's lawyers obviously advised her that her fundamental human rights was trampled upon by the police and she has a right to seek redress in court and also jettison whatever agreement she consented to under duress while in detention 3. Her legal team got a court order that barred the police from further arresting her in November, but didn't stop the police from instituting any legal action against her. Why did the police sought to arrest her in January if not that they enjoy so much impunity and people always clap them on? Can the police not proceed to arraign her for criminal defamation and now wait for her to either appear or not appear in court? 4. Yes the lady and her legal team instituted a civil case against the Erisco man but it does not stop the police from going ahead with the criminal case against her. Neither did any law say she must be in police custody before they try her for criminal defamtion. The thing is if people decide to put their emotions aside, they will see the case for what it is. Aside from the fact that the man feels his company's reputation is at stake; he also feels his ego is being bruised. It's no surprise tho cos most Nigerians with money (and even those without moeny but ego) would feel same way in his shoes as typical naija big man. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:31pm On Apr 01 |
OasisX: You should read between the lines. She meant kissing not killing. She accused him of sexual assault, not murder. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:37pm On Apr 01 |
afrodoc2: ........well, I thought its kicking, using the product to committing battery. LOL! 1 Like |
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