Lukuluku69:


In Christianity, I am afraid you are all brainwashed.

Lol

Yes we have had discussion in the past and I can confidently say all your exegesis were from position of ignorance and misinterpretation of sacred Text.

Well I remember I used the word Wereydinho but for completeness why not include the words you used too?

Muslims are invading Europe? Really? Well, you are free to believe what you choose to believe. You have every right to that but it is simply laughable to think and believe that the Almighty Europe and America are allowing Muslims to invade them.

Simply laughable.

Dsimmer:


Why can't you answer the questions btw?

And why would I take an excuse of a man like Mohammed who's a criminal lunatic peadophile as an ideal man?

A criminal peadophile who knows next to nothing except sex and terrorism while promising a brothel in heaven? Lol. Anyone taking him serious is only trying to be funny. Lol.

Btw, the Arabs stole the Northern Africans lands while wiping them off.

Speaking of Jesus, do you even realise that Ifa talks about Jesus several times?

it mentioned the birth of the messiah (Ela), the Word who's the only begotten child to be born of a virgin woman. Also mentioned the death of (Ela) and how he spent 3 days and 3 nights in the grave before he came out . And then mentioned how God came to the world to pay the price for his creations.

From the look of it, Ifa belief system is similar to Christianity in the sense that it's centered around Olodumare who's a got an only begotten child which is his word, born of a virgin woman, died to pay the price for humans and resurrected on the third day. That's why Jesus is mysterious because Ifa also mentioned him as the Word and the Messiah who died and resurrected on the third day.

That being said, Ifa isn't only about its belief aspect but also, an educative and creative enlightenment platform.

Lukuluku69:


Kindergarten stuff.

Lol.

Do you dolts believe in IFA ni that you are quoting IFA Corpus?

Lol. Go to IFA adherents and show them this and they will tell you that you simply high on Holy water.

Was your Jesus ever called Ela?

Now you have my attention now run along

Dsimmer:


Aside Yahweh, Hebrew call God Elah, Elowah, Elohim El'Mareh which are similar to Yoruba's Ela, Oluwa, Olorun, Eledumare/Olodumare.

Meanwhile, Àyè or ìyè in Yoruba means "alive or I exist" which is the same meaning as Yahweh. In fact, Ifa always say Eriwoyah.

Lukuluku69:


Lol

Hebrew call Elah?

Arabs call Allah too nah

And the Language that Jesus spoke call Elaha.

The difference is only in writing but vocalisation is basically the same.

You agree that the Hebrews and others are right but the Arabs are wrong yet all look and sounds alike.

Can't you see that you are twisted?

Lukuluku69:


It is an open secret that a thorough brainwashing exercise are usually embarked upon your young ones right from an early age.

Sunday School.

Cramming the Whole Quran is called Learning and not Brainwashing.

Jesus said Hear O Israel the Lord your God is One but what do you tell your young ones from early age? Lol

If you want to know the words you used on that Thread, feel free to revisit the Thread.

As for Europe and Islam believe what you want to, it doesn't change the Reality on ground that Europeans and Americans are coming to Islam in droves. Even Latin America

Lukuluku69:


The Four Gospels were all copying from one Source.

The difference you see in them is only in tune with what they perceive Jesus mission to be.

Everyone writes what suits there own group. That's why it was only John that wrote about the Coming of the Comforter/Holy Spirit others believe that spirit has been with them since. Luke even wrote that the Disciples received the Holy Spirit when Jesus was sending them out to preach the coming Kingdom of God.

I can show you hundreds of discrepancies in their Accounts.

For starters, check out the names of Jesus Disciples in all the Gospel. They are just 12 but the 4 Gospel didn't agree on their names!

Lukuluku69:


In Christianity, I am afraid you are all brainwashed.

Lol

Yes we have had discussion in the past and I can confidently say all your exegesis were from position of ignorance and misinterpretation of sacred Text.

Well I remember I used the word Wereydinho but for completeness why not include the words you used too?

Muslims are invading Europe? Really? Well, you are free to believe what you choose to believe. You have every right to that but it is simply laughable to think and believe that the Almighty Europe and America are allowing Muslims to invade them.

Simply laughable.

Lukuluku69:


Lol

Hebrew call Elah?

Arabs call Allah too nah

And the Language that Jesus spoke call Elaha.

The difference is only in writing but vocalisation is basically the same.

You agree that the Hebrews and others are right but the Arabs are wrong yet all look and sounds alike.

Can't you see that you are twisted?

It is an open secret that a thorough brainwashing exercise are usually embarked upon your young ones right from an early age.

Sunday School.

Cramming the Whole Quran is called Learning and not Brainwashing.

Jesus said Hear O Israel the Lord your God is One but what do you tell your young ones from early age? Lol

If you want to know the words you used on that Thread, feel free to revisit the Thread.

As for Europe and Islam believe what you want to, it doesn't change the Reality on ground that Europeans and Americans are coming to Islam in droves. Even Latin America

Ken4Christ:


None of the authors copied each other. This is why there is a slight difference in a few of their narrations but the same message was passed on.

The names of the 12 disciples are the same. One may choose to use the first name and another the second name but it's the same person.

Dsimmer:



Mohammed doesn't believe his Allah has a begotten child (the word) who's the messiah. Mohammed was simply unintelligible.

In fact, Allah was said to have been got from the allat deity because Mohammed was angry at the fact that she was a woman thus changed it to a man. The allat was represented by the crescent and stone. Same thing as allah.

Meanwhile, the paedophilic criminal atrocities of Mohammed and his brothel imaginary heaven put him into a bin. He's an excuse of a man. By their fruits you shall know them.

Lukuluku69:


Go on Wikipedia and do a Research on Islam in Europe, America and Latin America. Edify yourself.

FxMasterz:


Whatever is written on Wikipedia is written by fellow Muslims as yourself. The real gists of what is happening in the world are in the news.

Lukuluku69:


But your Cousin TENQ posted some link from Wikipedia and you agreed with what is in it nah.

So, what changed? Selective Amnesia? Or what?

FxMasterz:


Were his links from Wikipedia? I didn't check them out anyway. I wanted TenQ to handle that since he's more knowledgeable on the topic.

gaskiyamagana:

Convincingly confused about Islam, looking or searching for others to join him in his drowning in the ocean of Islamic faith. I pity those who will try to rescue you.

truthmans2012:


So, you na just follow-follow. You know nothing about your faith. Don't play with your soul in hell, my man.

MrPRevailer:


If you can't answer the question, you didn't need to make effort sounding smart just to avoid the obvious truth that Islam is a false religion.

We are dealing with God and eternal fate.
No need to play dangerous games.
This is hard for Muslims but try to be sincere to yourself and others.

FxMasterz:


Were his links from Wikipedia? I didn't check them out anyway. I wanted TenQ to handle that since he's more knowledgeable on the topic.

Ken4Christ:


You should have spent the energy you used to type this to at least answer my questions. But it seems none of you can answer my questions. My advice for you is to embrace the truth which is Jesus. He loved you enough to die for you. If you reject him, you are doomed.

FxMasterz:


You're the robotically programmed person here my friend. Someone has written a marriage contract, and was also a manager of a large business enterprise, yet you say he was unlettered just because you've been robotically programmed to accept him as an unlettered man. Who's the robot among us?

gaskiyamagana:

He was not die for me, he was killed and your your God sucked his blood to forgive you, your sins. This is one of the reasons we don't know who is fooling who among biblical God, Jesus and Christianity.

Lukuluku69:


If you sincerely believe what you wrote up here, then you have not been reading your Bible.

As for the Disciples name, put a lie to what I said by Listing out the Names of the Disciples according to each Gospel narratives.

I will wait.

gaskiyamagana:

Knowledgeable in other religions with roboticalized reasoning, abi? Why and why for truth sake that he failed and dodged response to missing verses of old Bible in modern bible, that l listed for him?
For your information,he is a monthly paid Nuisance of Islam on religion section of Nairaland. I am convinced that only those who don't know him are wasting their time,reasoning and argument with him - someone who will not reason, not even agree with you simply because he was anti Islam ROBOTICAL PROGRAMED whom without , format, deactivate, reprogram with inputs of genuine Islam information , will never change.

FxMasterz:


Mohammed wasn't unlettered. That was a big lie. If he was unlettered, how was he able to be a manager for Khadija's business? Can an unlettered man be the manager of a business?

Meanwhile, majority of all what Mohammed wrote in the Quran was copied from a false book called the book of Barnabas.

AbuTwins:


Yes an unlettered person can be the manager of a business 1400 years ago!

There are many especially without education become millionaires here in Nigeria with successful businesses and even controlling graduates!

So it is not impossible that he keeps valuables for people and he returns it to them intact as he was given! And a business manager can even have scribes to document data for the business.

Secondly, you said majority of what "Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam wrote in the Qur'an" is from the gospel of Barnabas.

This is a false premise from Satan the devil. The Qur'an was revealed by Allah through Angel Gabriel.

And even you using the word "majority " shows you are a blatant liar!

Even historical and scholarly evidence shows you lied!

FxMasterz:


That Jubril was an imposter. A demon at best disguising itself as angel Gabriel. There's no new revelation from God that can contradict previous revelations. That's one of the ways to know if someone is of God. All revelations from Genesis to Revelation are rhymed. They're all contradicted by Mohammed alone, yet claiming prophethood from the God of Abraham.

And yes, Mohammed copied from the book of Barnabas especially the aspects regarding the story of Jesus. Read the book and confirm for yourself.

Yes, uneducated people can own businesses but they won't deliver their businesses to be managed by an unlettered man. If Mohammed was unlettered, no one would give him a business to manage. An unlettered man cannot render accounts, which is the major responsibility of a business manager. And Mohammed was said to be the manager of a large business enterprise for that matter. He was not unlettered.

Another proof that he was not unlettered is that it is written in your habits that Mohammed himself wrote the marriage contract between himself and Aisha. I may not be correct about who Mohammed wrote marriage contract for but I'm absolutely correct that he wrote a marriage contract. An unlettered person cannot write a marriage contract.

All the noise that Mohammed was unlettered were all lies. The Quran was actually copied from many books, not the book of Barnabas alone. Many of those books are still in existence today.

Ken4Christ:


You still didn't answer any of my questions.

Ok. Just answer the first question. What is your conviction that Mohammed is truly a Prophet of God?

Who are his witnesses?

What are his endorsement?

How many Prophecies did he give that came to pass in his days and that is happening before our very eyes?

How come we are told very little about him in the Quran? His name is mentioned only 4 times.

Who did he marry so many wives including a minor?

Why did have to use violence to make people submit to his religion if he was truly from God?

How come he performed no miracles.

Supposing he is among the false prophets Jesus fortold will come?

How come he said he wasn't sure of his destiny and the destiny of his followers? - Sura 46:9.

Remember that there is no repentance in hell.

Don't be deceived by anyone. Jesus is the only way to God. He said it and he proved it. Why not embrace Christ today and secure your eternal destiny?

AbuTwins:
But Jesus was sent to die for your sins in new testament, which human died for sins in the old testament? Is human sacrifice not a new thing? is Trinity not a new thing or did Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Solomon worshipped three in one Gods like you? We can agree your new testament contradicted the old testament too. We believe in Progressive revelation...

You used the word "Majority" so show us how majority of the Qur'an is from Gospel of Saint Barnabas.

Discuss the historicity of the said Gospel vis a vis that of the Qu'ran.
Did the Gospel of barnabas copied the Qur'an or the Qur'an was copied from it?
What language was the Gospel of Barnabas written in and how did it reach Arabia?
Who translated it to Arabic?
Do we have the Arabic manuscript of the Gospel of Barnabas?
When was this translated to be copied to the Qur'an?

He doesn't need to render account. This is why there are scribes. Don't be dogmatic on ignorance. Illiterates employ literates from time immemorial. So if you say he's not unlettered then you should show us authentic reports that he was not just this flimsy deductions.


When it is said that he wrote something it means that it was written on his behalf and he appends it.

Ibn ‘Abbaas (one of the eminent companions of the Prophet even the son of the Prophet's uncle), may Allah be pleased with him, said: ‘Your Prophet was unlettered, unable to read or write or calculate.’ Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Neither did you (O Muhammad) read any book before it (this Qur’an), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand . . .’
[Al-‘Ankaboot 29:48]."


It will be lies to you who already have a bias. Keep looking for ways to fault the Qur'an, Islam and Muhammad.

No Muslim will ever say Jesus was illiterate not to have written even a word from the Bible throughout his 33 years on earth!

MaxInDHouse:


In as much as i hate delving into the argument between Muslims and those claiming Christians it should be noted that the Bible said:

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17

Due to the confusion and atrocities peculiar to the endtime many people will become really bad in their thoughts, words and actions {2Timothy 3:1-5} that's why we need God's word to keep us fit as servants of the true God {2Timothy 3:16-17} the songs of Solomon were inspired to main the faithful man his wife's bestie singing romantic songs for her to prove his love for her whether they're still young or they're both of age! Proverbs 5:18-19

So the song of songs you referred to is also part of the inspired word of our God who wants us to be fully competent and completely equiped as servants of God! 2Timothy 3:17

Bye!