FxMasterz:


The Trinity, the death and resurrection of Jesus were not new things. They were prophesied in the Old testament and fulfilled in the New. The new testament itself was a fulfillment of prophecy.

Show us where Trinity was mentioned explicitly and without ambiguity or you doing eisegesis or exegesis?

Read the book of Barnabas before arguing please. The Quran was copied from many sources, including the Bible. Please do your own research, I don't need to lecture you on this. I've done well to point you in the right direction.

If you made a claim, then you should be able to justify your claims academically or else you are a liar.
Here is the academic process!
Discuss the historicity of the said Gospel vis a vis that of the Qu'ran?
Did the Gospel of Barnabas copied the Qur'an or the Qur'an was copied from it?
What language was the Gospel of Barnabas written in and how did it reach Arabia?
Who translated it to Arabic?
Do we have the Arabic manuscript of the Gospel of Barnabas?
When was this translated to be copied to the Qur'an?

Of course Jesus too didn't go to school but no Christian would ever say Jesus was illiterate. The disciples of Jesus too were uneducated, but no Christian would ever use that as a premise to argue the inspiration of the Bible.

The disciples were uneducated mostly. That's why Paul wrote more than all of them put together. That's for another day.
The fact remains that the Prophet of Islam is unlettered and his contemporaries didn't disagree on this matter except you later days Christian liars!

If you say Scribes wrote business accounts for Mohammed, what stops them from writing a book for him? Besides, Mohammed himself was said to have written a marriage contract without any help. Mohammed was not unlettered.

Scribes wrote down the Qur'an for him as revelation progresses. And we have seen as demonstrated that the Qur'an has been memorized by millions of Muslims all over the world unlike your Bible that no one has ever memorized in Jesus's extinct language!

If you say he was not unlettered give us report from any of his contemporary on this matter! Your opinion is already filled with bias. You lie through your teeth now.

AbuTwins:


Song of songs is for what you say? Must your God inspire breast all the time?

1. The Prayer
Proverbs 5:18-19
18 May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breast satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

(Say Amen)

2. My Beloved
Song of Songs 1:13-14
13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my breast.
14 My beloved is to me a cluster of henna blossoms
from the vineyards of En Gedi.

3. Your Breast
Song of Songs 4:5-6
5 Your breast are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.

4. More description
Song of Songs 7:7-8
7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breast like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your breast be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,

5. Kiss of life
Song of Songs 8:1
8 If only you were to me like a brother,
who was nursed at my mother’s breast!
Then, if I found you outside,
I would kiss you,
and no one would despise me.

6. Little sister with no Breast
Song of Songs 8:8-10
8 We have a little sister,
and her breast are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
9 If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

7. Breast like towers
Song of Songs 8:10
10 I am a wall and my breast are like towers.
Thus I have become in his eyes
like one bringing contentment.

It seems what you suggest is false. Check Number 6 above titled Little sister with no breast! Is this from a husband to a wife? And is this from God?

Ken4Christ
FxMasterz

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17

Na Scriptures be this oooo!

This is a diversion at best.

Are you saying we have not read those scriptures before and therefore you have to show them to us?

The carnal man can't understand spiritual things. The scriptures you're trying to disparage have been used mightily of God to bless and transform lives for several millennials before the lies of the Quran came into existence.

These scriptures are still blessing and transforming lives today. A carnal man blinded by his carnality cannot make anything of any part of the Word of God. That's why, once you become born again, the first thing God does for you is to give you His Holy Spirit so that through His Spirit, your understanding can be opened to partake of the spiritual meal which is the Word of God.

Ken4Christ:
AntiChristian will not talk now. But he will jump virtually on every post to make irrelevant comments.

That clown?

FxMasterz:


This is a diversion at best.

Are you saying we have not read those scriptures before and therefore you have to show them to us?

This is not a diversion at all. You can respond to it and respond to others or are you afraid to talk about Biblical breasts?

The carnal man can't understand spiritual things. The scriptures you're trying to disparage have been used mightily of God to bless and transform lives for several millennials before the lies of the Quran came into existence.

Carnal minds wrote most of the Bible and there was no Holy Spirit involved. In fact many were just writing Books and the Church fathers chose what they thought was okay to prove the Greek trinity Polytheism!

Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, even as they delivered them unto us... Luke 1:1-3

These scriptures are still blessing and transforming lives today. A carnal man blinded by his carnality cannot make anything of any part of the Word of God. That's why, once you become born again, the first thing God does for you is to give you His Holy Spirit so that through His Spirit, your understanding can be opened to partake of the spiritual meal which is the Word of God.

What is the Historicity of the old testament and New testament?
Is there any carbon dated manuscript of the entire Bible before 400AD?
How can you proof the Bible is truly the inspired word of God and that those who it acclaims wrote it?

gaskiyamagana:

Who I fooling who among biblical God, Biblical Jesus and Christians?
1. Was it Biblical God that is fooling Jesus through Christians?
2. Was it Biblical Jesus that is fooling God through christians?
3. Was it christians that are fooling God through Biblical Jesus?
This is more than enough for you to think over and solve by yourself before pokenosing into other religions matter.

Want an ignorant question very common with Muslims. Because they can't and won't read Toran and Bible that even their God Allah told them to go to for unsolved questions.

Listen to me.
The Torah and New testament are one. Because Jesus was prophesied to come in the Torah. You can read Isaiah chapter 51 among several others. And he fulfilled everything prophesied about him in the Torah, hence we have the New Testament.

Jesus is the Spirit of God. Also called the Word of God. He came out from God. Hence why he is called Only Begotten Son of God.

Even your Quran says he is the Word and Spirit proceeding from Allah.

But you Muslims twist it and say he is the Word "Be" which means he was created.

Okay then if he was created why does Allah then say he is also a Spirit coming out from Allah? (Not just a Word).

And even if he was created, why is he created differently from every other human being including Adam. Why did he come from Heaven?

Even other human being came from pregnancy. Adam from dust. But Jesus came directly from God.

Think.

And then to prove that Allah is fake and double-minded, he falsely claims that Trinity is The Father Jesus and Mary. As in a family -structure.

When the Bible says it is The Father, The Word and His Holyspirit.
Man is also a Trinity-being like God. The Body, The Soul and The Spirit.

AbuTwins:
This is not a diversion at all. You can respond to it and respond to others or are you afraid to talk about Biblical breasts?

Carnal minds wrote most of the Bible and there was no Holy Spirit involved. In fact many were just writing Books and the Church fathers chose what they thought was okay to prove the Greek trinity Polytheism!

Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, even as they delivered them unto us... Luke 1:1-3



What is the Historicity of the old testament and New testament?
Is there any carbon dated manuscript of the entire Bible before 400AD?
How can you proof the Bible is truly the inspired word of God and that those who it acclaims wrote it?

If you want to know whether the Bible is inspired, look at the lives it has transformed.

- Chronic Islamic terrorists who encounter Jesus through it get entirely saved and transformed. One of the numerous examples is Imad ud-din Lahiz who was an Islamic writer, preacher and Quranic translator, who met Jesus and was transformed by the Word of God. Check out his life today.

- Chronic sinners such as armed robbers and hardened criminals who encounter Jesus through it get transformed. Kayode Williams was such an armed robber who terrorised south western Nigeria in the 80s and early 90s. He encountered Jesus and got transformed through the Word of God. Check out his life today.

- High ranking members of the occult who encounter Jesus through it get transformed. Nathan Uzorma is one of the numerous cultists who encountered Jesus during one his occult operations. He renounced Satan, embraced Jesus and became transformed by the Word of God. Check out his life today. He even wrote a book "Occult Grandmaster Now in Christ"

My dad was a chronic womanizer and lover of bottles. He battled these vices until he encountered Jesus. His life was transformed. The chronic womanizer in him disappeared, and he grew in faith to become an Evangelist who was filled with the power of God before he departed this earth.

I am a living testimony of the inspired Word of God. From a chronic Muslim background to a transformed child of God who has the intimacy of God, filled with power and might, and living by the power of the Holy Ghost with the unshakable assurance of eternal life through the Word of God.

FxMasterz:


If you want to know whether the Bible is inspired, look at the lives it has transformed.

So if the Buddhist/Hindus Scriptures transforms lives then it must be inspired? The end will always justify the means! And what lives are transformed?

- Chronic Islamic terrorists who encounter Jesus through it get entirely saved and transformed. One of the numerology examples is Imad ud-din Lahiz who was an Islamic writer, preacher and Quranic translator, who met Jesus and was transformed by the Word of God. Check out his life today.

Where did he meet Jesus? Show us the video where he met him? Proof to us he meet the Arab African Palestine-Israeli Jesus and not the White man Jesus Rome sold to you!

- Chronic sinners such as armed robbers and hardened criminals who encounter Jesus through it get transformed. Kayode Williams was such an armed robber who terrorised south western Nigeria in the 80s and early 90s. He encountered Jesus and got transformed through the Word of God. Check out his life today.

Show us where they met Jesus and proof to us how it was Jesus they met?

- High ranking members of the occult who encounter Jesus through it get transformed. Nathan Uzorma is one of the numerous cultists who encountered Jesus during one his occult operations. He renounced Satan, embraced Jesus and became transformed by the Word of God. Check out his life today. He even wrote a book "Occult Grandmaster Now in Christ"

Where did he meet Jesus? Show us the video where he met him? Proof to us he meet the Arab African Palestine-Israeli Jesus and not the White man Jesus Rome sold to you!

My dad was a chronic womanizer and lover of bottles. He battled these vices until he encountered Jesus. His life was transformed. The chronic womanizer in him disappeared, and he grew in faith to become an Evangelist who was filled with the power of God before he departed this earth.

Where did he meet Jesus? Show us the video where he met him? Proof to us he meet the Arab African Palestine-Israeli Jesus and not the White man Jesus Rome sold to you!

I am a living testimony of the inspired Word of God. From a chronic Muslim background to a transformed child of God who has the intimacy of God, filled with power and might, and living by the power of the Holy Ghost with the unshakable assurance of eternal life through the Word of God.

Every major religion has one or more of these kind of stories! I can share you stories and videos too!

Discuss the Historicity of the Bible and tell us how it was preserved till today?

AbuTwins:
So if the Buddhist/Hindus Scriptures transforms lives then it must be inspired? The end will always justify the means! And what lives are transformed?

Where did he meet Jesus? Show us the video where he met him? Proof to us he meet the Arab African Palestine-Israeli Jesus and not the White man Jesus Rome sold to you!

Show us where they met Jesus and proof to us how it was Jesus they met?

Where did he meet Jesus? Show us the video where he met him? Proof to us he meet the Arab African Palestine-Israeli Jesus and not the White man Jesus Rome sold to you!


Where did he meet Jesus? Show us the video where he met him? Proof to us he meet the Arab African Palestine-Israeli Jesus and not the White man Jesus Rome sold to you!

Every major religion has one or more of these kind of stories! I can share you stories and videos too!

Discuss the Historicity of the Bible and tell us how it was preserved till today?

The buddhist don't have any claim of transformed lives. Neither does Islam.

All religions put a new jacket on an old man. No one disputes that. But only Jesus puts a new man in a new jacket. That's the difference. When you see a new man in a new jacket, you can be sure it can only be done by Jesus.

If you desire a transformation today, Jesus would reveal Himself to you. He'll transform your life and make you a new man clothed in righteousness and enveloped by the unmistakable Presence of God.

FxMasterz:


The buddhist don't have any claim of transformed lives. Neither does Islam.

All religions put a new jacket on an old man. No one disputes that. But only Jesus puts a new man in a new jacket. That's the difference. When you see a new man in a new jacket, you can be sure it can only be done by Jesus.

If you desire a transformation today, Jesus would reveal Himself to you. He'll transform your life and make you a new man clothed in righteousness and enveloped by the unmistakable Presence of God.

Okay here is a video of a Pastor reverting to Islam and closing down all 8 locations of his churches around New York! June 26, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MumA8_WEjUI

He even converted 12 Pastors with him!

Let me keep bringing you the stories you want now so you can cry well!

AbuTwins:


Okay here is a video of a Pastor reverting to Islam and closing down all 8 locations of his churches around New York! June 26, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MumA8_WEjUI

He even converted 12 Pastors with him!

Let me keep bringing you the stories you want now so you can cry well!

We're not talking about conversions but transformations. Even many pastors don't know Jesus. They need an encounter with Jesus. Anyone can be a pastor. But not everyone has an encounter that leads to transformation.

If you want to meet Jesus today, He'll reveal Himself to you and transform you. It doesn't matter whether you're a pastor or a Christian of many generations. If you've not met Jesus, your Pastorship and Christianity are mere titles.

You need Jesus. He's the only One who can put a new you in a new jacket.

FxMasterz:


We're not talking about conversions but transformations. Even many pastors don't know Jesus. They need an encounter with Jesus. Anyone can be a pastor. But not everyone has an encounter that leads to transformation.

If you want to meet Jesus today, He'll reveal Himself to you and transform you. It doesn't matter whether you're a pastor or a Christian of many generations. If you've not met Jesus, your Pastorship and Christianity are mere titles.

You need Jesus. He's the only One who can put a new you in a new jacket.

Tell me how do you encounter Jesus?
How do you know it was Jesus you encountered?
For you to know someone then you must have met the person before!
Did Moses, Abraham, Noah, David, John the Baptist, etc. encountered Jesus this same way?
Or is it a new way (since you said there was no new things in the Bible)?

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

Even the person acclaimed to have written the above fell into what he wrote!

The same light he met on the way from Damascus!

AbuTwins:


Tell me how do you encounter Jesus?
How do you know it was Jesus you encountered?
For you to know someone then you must have met the person before!
Did Moses, Abraham, Noah, David, John the Baptist, etc. encountered Jesus this same way?
Or is it a new way (since you said there was no new things in the Bible)?

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

Even the person acclaimed to have written the above fell into what he wrote!

The same light he met on the way from Damascus!

When you meet Jesus, you'll know beyond reasonable doubt that you've met him.

If Paul fell victim of what he wrote about, he would have been rejected by the followers of Christ who knew better than him.

When a person meets Jesus, you will know for sure you met Jesus. The signs are overwhelming. Very few people know Jesus even among so called christians.

You need to meet Jesus. No religion saves. Christianity inclusive. Only Jesus saves. He'll take you and make you a new man.

FxMasterz:


When you meet Jesus, you'll know beyond reasonable doubt that you've met him.

If Paul fell victim of what he wrote about, he would have been rejected by the followers of Christ who knew better than him.

Paul did had issues with some disciples of Jesus particularly the brothers of your God!

When a person meets Jesus, you will know for sure you met Jesus. The signs are overwhelming. Very few people know Jesus even among so called christians.

You need to meet Jesus. No religion saves. Christianity inclusive. Only Jesus saves. He'll take you and make you a new man.

Tell me how do you encounter Jesus?
How do you know it was Jesus you encountered?
For you to know someone then you must have met the person before!
Did Moses, Abraham, Noah, David, John the Baptist, etc. encountered Jesus this same way?
Or is it a new way (since you said there was no new things in the Bible)?

Even Paul that never knew Jesus in real life claimed he met him as bright light!

Everyone started claiming they met Jesus from then!

How do you meet someone you never knew?

AbuTwins:


Paul did had issues with some disciples of Jesus particularly the brothers of your God!



Tell me how do you encounter Jesus?
How do you know it was Jesus you encountered?
For you to know someone then you must have met the person before!
Did Moses, Abraham, Noah, David, John the Baptist, etc. encountered Jesus this same way?
Or is it a new way (since you said there was no new things in the Bible)?

Even Paul that never knew Jesus in real life claimed he met him as bright light!

Everyone started claiming they met Jesus from then!

How do you meet someone you never knew?

If you have what Paul had, you'll be a much better person than you are today.

And no, Paul had no issues with anyone whatsoever. That's actually a lie.

If you want to know how I met Jesus, wait for it. I'll share my testimony here on Nairaland some day. My dad was already an Evangelist but I was still practicing Christian religion until I met Jesus.

We're not talking about religion now. We're talking about encounters.

FxMasterz:


If you have what Paul had, you'll be a much better person than you are today.

Paul had nothing! Tell us what he had and show us the proof of your claims.

And no, Paul had no issues with anyone whatsoever. That's actually a lie.

You should ask me to give you proof and not just brandish me with the liar tag! You are the one in denial refusing to answer almost all the questions about historicity of your Bible here!

If you want to know how I met Jesus, wait for it. I'll share my testimony here on Nairaland some day. My dad was already an Evangelist but I was still practicing Christian religion until I met Jesus.

We're not talking about religion now. We're talking about encounters.

All your encounters circle around miracles or one form of negativities turned positive!
All religions have such!
Prove the historicity of the New testament vis a vis Trinity, Arius, Athanasius, Council of Nicea, Council of Constantinople, etc.

AbuTwins:
Paul had nothing! Tell us what he had and show us the proof of your claims.

You should ask me to give you proof and not just brandish me with the liar tag! You are the one in denial refusing to answer almost all the questions about historicity of your Bible here!



All your encounters circle around miracles or one form of negativities turned positive!
All religions have such!
Prove the historicity of the New testament vis a vis Trinity, Arius, Athanasius, Council of Nicea, Council of Constantinople, etc.

Read the testimonies of others about Paul. It far outweighs the testimony of others about Mohammed.

You don't have proof my friend. You're not taking with someone who does not know his Bible. Paul reprimanded Peter and Barnabas when they acted unscripturally out of fear of the Jews. They took it in good faith. Paul had no issue with anybody. If you have proofs for your claims, you won't wait for me to ask before showing it. Your militant attitude can still not cover up for the lies you're telling.

Encounters center around the miracle of salvation, the inner peace that follows and the resultant transformation that ensues. The very proof lies within the life of the individual who met Jesus.

Lukuluku69:


You are not writing about IFA again?

Lol

Go learn some more.

Well, Ifa knows better than paedophilic criminal lunatic Mohammad who drank camel's urine 😂, after all, Ifa doesn't call Yoruba slaves but refers to the Yorubas as "omoluabi" which means the "children of God".

AbuTwins:


Song of songs is for what you say? Must your God inspire breast all the time?

1. The Prayer
Proverbs 5:18-19
18 May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breast satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

(Say Amen)

2. My Beloved
Song of Songs 1:13-14
13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my breast.
14 My beloved is to me a cluster of henna blossoms
from the vineyards of En Gedi.

3. Your Breast
Song of Songs 4:5-6
5 Your breast are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.

4. More description
Song of Songs 7:7-8
7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breast like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your breast be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,

5. Kiss of life
Song of Songs 8:1
8 If only you were to me like a brother,
who was nursed at my mother’s breast!
Then, if I found you outside,
I would kiss you,
and no one would despise me.

6. Little sister with no Breast
Song of Songs 8:8-10
8 We have a little sister,
and her breast are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
9 If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

7. Breast like towers
Song of Songs 8:10
10 I am a wall and my breast are like towers.
Thus I have become in his eyes
like one bringing contentment.

It seems what you suggest is false. Check Number 6 above titled Little sister with no breast! Is this from a husband to a wife? And is this from God?

Ken4Christ
FxMasterz

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17

Na Scriptures be this oooo!

Who created sexual feelings? God of course. Sex is not evil. Romance is not evil. But it should be within the confines of marriage.

Ken4Christ:


Who created sexual feelings? God of course. Sex is not evil. Romance is not evil. But it should be within the confines of marriage.

Na so God inspired breasts verses!

Alright how many of your females folks at home memorised these verses? Did you teach your daughters and sisters?

O my sister with no breasts....

AbuTwins:


Na so God inspired breasts verses!

Alright how many of your females folks at home memorised these verses? Did you teach your daughters and sisters?

O my sister with no breasts....

Why do you suppose think God cannot talk about what he created in a decent way? Decent Christians don't see anything wrong with the romantic poems. Love is beautiful. But wait until you get married to enjoy the bliss of marriage. To those who are not pure, all things appears that way to them.

Ken4Christ:


Why do you suppose think God cannot talk about what he created in a decent way? Decent Christians don't see anything wrong with the romantic poems. Love is beautiful. But wait until you get married to enjoy the bliss of marriage. To those who are not pure, all things appears that way to them.

How is "my sister without breast" romantic to you?

6. Little sister with no Breast
Song of Songs 8:8-10
8 We have a little sister,
and her breast are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
9 If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

Stop capping nonsense!

AbuTwins:


How is "my sister without breast" romantic to you?

6. Little sister with no Breast
Song of Songs 8:8-10
8 We have a little sister,
and her breast are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
9 If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

Stop capping nonsense!

The passage is better understand when you read it from the Message Translation:

‭‭Song of Songs‬ ‭8:8‭-‬9‬ ‭MSG‬‬
“Our little sister has no breasts. What shall we do with our little sister when men come asking for her? She’s a virgin and vulnerable, and we’ll protect her. If they think she’s a wall, we’ll top it with barbed wire. If they think she’s a door, we’ll barricade it.”

This message is clear. Make effort to protect young girls who are virgins from pre marital sex.

Ken4Christ:


The passage is better understand when you read it from the Message Translation:

‭‭Song of Songs‬ ‭8:8‭-‬9‬ ‭MSG‬‬
“Our little sister has no breasts. What shall we do with our little sister when men come asking for her? She’s a virgin and vulnerable, and we’ll protect her. If they think she’s a wall, we’ll top it with barbed wire. If they think she’s a door, we’ll barricade it.”

This message is clear. Make effort to protect young girls who are virgins from pre marital sex.

Send this to your women folks as memory verse!
Only a dunce would ascribe the to the almighty!

Your little sister with no breasts!

AbuTwins:


Send this to your women folks as memory verse!
Only a dunce would ascribe the to the almighty!

Your little sister with no breasts!

Your problem is your carnal state. You just need redemption which is available in Jesus alone.

Ken4Christ:


Your problem is your carnal state. You just need redemption which is available in Jesus alone.

No be only carnal na canal!

Tell me how many people Jesus met and told they needed redemption?

AbuTwins:


No be only carnal na canal!

Tell me how many people Jesus met and told they needed redemption?

Why do you think he had to be born of a virgin? Even your Quran affirms it.

Why do you think he is called Messiah even in your Quran?

Messiah means Christ and it also means the Redeemer.

Only someone born of a virgin could redeem the world from the power of Satan. And Jesus did this by dying for everyone on the cross. His blood that he shed is what brought our redemption. But it won't be yours until you accept it. If you reject it, you will end up in hell. This is the truth. Please, don't miss the opportunity to be saved. Once you are in hell, it's for the rest of your life.

Ken4Christ:


Why do you think he had to be born of a virgin? Even your Quran affirms it.

Adam wasn't born at all! Eve was created from Adam. They are not God but humans!

Why do you think he is called Messiah even in your Quran?

Messiah is a title of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him). He was given this title because Allah purified him of sins or he was anointed with blessings or because when he touched the sick with his hands, they were healed by Allah's permission.

Messiah means Christ and it also means the Redeemer.

Every Prophet is a redeemer! Moses, Noah, etc were sent to redeem their people and bring them close to their creator!

Only someone born of a virgin could redeem the world from the power of Satan. And Jesus did this by dying for everyone on the cross. His blood that he shed is what brought our redemption. But it won't be yours until you accept it. If you reject it, you will end up in hell. This is the truth. Please, don't miss the opportunity to be saved. Once you are in hell, it's for the rest of your life.

You mean God himself is incapable of forgiving his creation without killing his sinless son or a part of himself?

The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him. But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. None of the transgressions he has committed will be held against him. Because of the righteousness he has practiced, he will live. Ezekiel 18:20-23

Allah forgives without blood!
Allah is One not three in one!
Allah is not born not does he begets!
Allah is independent of His creations, He does not eat, drink or need anything from any being!
And there's no one like unto Him

AbuTwins:
Adam wasn't born at all! Eve was created from Adam. They are not God but humans!

Messiah is a title of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him). He was given this title because Allah purified him of sins or he was anointed with blessings or because when he touched the sick with his hands, they were healed by Allah's permission.

Every Prophet is a redeemer! Moses, Noah, etc were sent to redeem their people and bring them close to their creator!



You mean God himself is incapable of forgiving his creation without killing his sinless son or a part of himself?

The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him. But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. None of the transgressions he has committed will be held against him. Because of the righteousness he has practiced, he will live. Ezekiel 18:20-23

Allah forgives without blood!
Allah is One not three in one!
Allah is not born not does he begets!
Allah is independent of His creations, He does not eat, drink or need anything from any being!
And there's no one like unto Him

You are so ignorant of divine laws. God is too just to violate laws he put in place. What are these laws?

1. The wages of sin is death - Romans 3:23

2. It is the blood that makes atonement for sins;

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

3. Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

The blood of bulls and goats where used under the Old Testament to atone for the sins of the Jews. But it was repeated year after year. It wasn't a perfect sacrifice as you can equate an animal to human.

This is why Jesus had to come.

And to die for us, he had to be born of a virgin so that he will be born sinless.

No wonder when John the Baptist saw him, he said;

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

It is the blood that Jesus shed that met the full demand of Justice. So everyone's sin has been paid for. If you accept it, salvation becomes yours. If you reject it, be ready to die for your own sin and perish in hell.

Why believe the teaching of a man who is unsure of his own destiny and the destiny of his followers - Sura 46:9. And you reject the words of a man who was born sinless, lived a sinless life, died and rose again. And he is alive forever.

Please, use your brain. You have been deceived.

Ken4Christ:


You are so ignorant of divine laws. God is too just to violate laws he put in place. What are these laws?

1. The wages of sin is death - Romans 3:23

2. It is the blood that makes atonement for sins;

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

3. Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

The blood of bulls and goats where used under the Old Testament to atone for the sins of the Jews. But it was repeated year after year. It wasn't a perfect sacrifice as you can equate an animal to human.

This is why Jesus had to come.

And to die for us, he had to be born of a virgin so that he will be born sinless.

No wonder when John the Baptist saw him, he said;

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

It is the blood that Jesus shed that met the full demand of Justice. So everyone's sin has been paid for. If you accept it, salvation becomes yours. If you reject it, be ready to die for your own sin and perish in hell.

Why believe the teaching of a man who is unsure of his own destiny and the destiny of his followers - Sura 46:9. And you reject the words of a man who was born sinless, lived a sinless life, died and rose again. And he is alive forever.

Please, use your brain. You have been deceived.

No be God gave the law in Ezekiel too!

The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him. But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. None of the transgressions he has committed will be held against him. Because of the righteousness he has practiced, he will live. Ezekiel 18:20-23

You are now quoting Paul when he himself said And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Cor 11:14.
No be same Satan masquerade to Paul as Jesus?

Paul never met Jesus, so how could his books be scripture?

AbuTwins:


No be God gave the law in Ezekiel too!

The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him. But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. None of the transgressions he has committed will be held against him. Because of the righteousness he has practiced, he will live. Ezekiel 18:20-23

You are now quoting Paul when he himself said And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Cor 11:14.
No be same Satan masquerade to Paul as Jesus?

Paul never met Jesus, so how could his books be scripture?

You pick a passage of scripture that appears to support your pre conceived opinion while at the same time, you reject many more others that are contrary to your opinion.

Ezekiel is not talking about salvation or redemption. He is talking about taking personal responsibility for your errors.

But this is different from the sacrifice Jesus paid to save mankind from the power of darkness.

Well, if you reject this free gift of salvation, you are the one who will burn in hell. And when you land there, you will regret the day your mother gave birth to you. The choice is yours.

Ken4Christ:


You pick a passage of scripture that appears to support your pre conceived opinion while at the same time, you reject many more others that are contrary to your opinion.

Ezekiel is not talking about salvation or redemption. He is talking about taking personal responsibility for your errors.

But this is different from the sacrifice Jesus paid to save mankind from the power of darkness.

Well, if you reject this free gift of salvation, you are the one who will burn in hell. And when you land there, you will regret the day your mother gave birth to you. The choice is yours.

You mean if i reject God having to kill his sinless son or is it himself right?

I reject the blasphemy entirely!

Do you have any unambiguous evidence for the trinity in the Bible?
The father, son and Spirit are coequal, coeternal and one according to the Nicene, Constantinople and other Christian creeds!

AbuTwins:


You mean if i reject God having to kill his sinless son or is it himself right?

I reject the blasphemy entirely!

Do you have any unambiguous evidence for the trinity in the Bible?
The father, son and Spirit are coequal, coeternal and one according to the Nicene, Constantinople and other Christian creeds!

If God could text Abraham to offer his only Son, Isaac, why do you suppose God himself couldn't do the same with his Son Jesus. It was the only way to rescue the world.

Through the first Adam sin entered the world and death and condemnation was the consequences. Through the last Adam, Jesus, redemption came to mankind bringing life and justification.

God had an option for Abraham. A ram died in place of Isaac. But for Jesus, there was no substitute. He had to die. And his resurrection brought hope to mankind. This means those in Christ will one day resurrect unto eternal life. Those who don't believe unto eternal condemnation.

As for the Trinity doctrine, it is very scriptural and the evidences are overwhelming. I will make my submissions in my next post.