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Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by CaveAdullam: 10:37am On Aug 04, 2022 |
Savagr: Coup is overthrowing the slavemasters who are our political leaders. That's a temporal solution and it has never worked in Nigeria's successive coups. The overlords are still there you know. There can be a temporal change when elites fight against themselves which is the normal political elections normally observed. However, in the end, new political allies are formed that will go forth in pillaging the nation, it may be deep or shallow. Greed and lust for power are real. A difficult one will be the slavemasters coming together to overthrow their overlords. But greed, snakes in their pockets, skeletons in their cupboards, all their crimes and evil will be made known which may either demoralize them or make the masses lose interest in them. But if they see this overthrowing as paying for their past sins and evils, not limited by greed and lust, with time they will overcome. The last one is forming a reasonable and tangible relationship with new overlords, and this is where China and Russia come into place. The effect of the old overlords on the masses and slave masters may be tough, but the new overlords will always help to counter it or reduce its effect. Take note: Nothing good comes easy. Change cannot be achieved in 4 or 8 years, just mere recycling of idiots and several gaps in progress. Thanks. 8 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by Savagr(m): 11:11am On Aug 04, 2022 |
CaveAdullam:but getting the Chinese and Russians Isn't it another problem because with time they may even start milking That is if they are not already doing that. To me I think only the Nigerians can fifth their demons No one else can 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by CaveAdullam: 11:52am On Aug 04, 2022 |
Savagr: China, Russia, and North Korea are in a multilateral relationship. The fact that they benefit from each other doesn't mean one is milking or pillaging the other. Each still maintains its grounds and boundary despite being friendly allies. Learning through the ropes facing demons and getting tattoed with scars and allowing someone to guide and lead you, which do you think is better? Yes, there is a space for autonomy and independence, but you must follow the leadership and authority of those higher than you. That's what Africans did in regards to gaining independence, however, were too juvenile, immature, and less intelligent in the operation and management of leadership. And that's what they are still doing as they dance to the rhythm of the overlords albeit to detriment of their nations. We want to fight our demons, it is what we have been doing for the past 20 years, recycling leaders who don't have the masses at heart. The problem is foundational like I said before. The people in charge of this organization called Nigeria are not in the Aso rock villa. Whoever you see there is but their instrument. Settle down and read the story of Moses in the Christian Bible. You will understand better. Moses killed an Egyptian because he was tired of their oppression and how the victim wanted to kill a member of his clan...he ran out of Egypt to save his life. But on his second return, he came with a staff of authority and tongue of fire. Why? Because he merge and form an alliance with a greater power called Elohim, Jehovah, or Yahweh who is greater than every pharaoh combined. Nigeria is a long process. Thanks. 11 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by Simeonjoe1: 12:14pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
skj1377:Bro it's not feasible to but diesel at 100 naira per liter it will harm the economy. Now people are even clamoring for subsidy removal on petroleum-based you still want us to add on diesel? By the time we add subsidy on this, where we go see money to build schools? To rehabilitate road and for better health care? Concerning that borrowing no government may no dey borrow, in fact if you have the money for certain project but you still see who go borrow you better borrow and use that your saved money for other things. That's why I said that running a country is not a market economy, country persist so don't use human analogy for it, human fit die, president fit end e tenor, generation fit go and come but in 100 years country go still remain. So if you burrow and start to pay back small small it's better than using a large junk of cash for only one project may you still get other project to embark on. Infact I don't care if Nigeria borrow 1trillion dollars that it'll take us 500 years to pay, as long as it's far improves our economy and we dey pay and small small, that's the value therein |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by Artiiclebeast: 12:21pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
CaveAdullam: Oh Laaaawd.... God help me and more of my fellow youths to begin to see and understand these. My sentiments has also always tended towards the forming of an alliance with both China and Russia. Of course, this will come with some ish but certainly won't be as bad as it currently holds with the ones owning us. You sound like someone I'd love to learn more from, share and copy notes with. I'm busy tinkering with some ideas and someone as open-minded with a broader view to life as you is whom I would love to have guide me, critique me, and offer better recommendations. God bless, bro. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by pansophist(m): 1:05pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
MrWraith: Alliance doesn't mean dependency, parasitism, or not finding your own feet. Every nation on earth have allies, including the US. Alliance is more like choosing a true friend, not an envious psychopath that pretends to love you but will stab you in the back. We have been allies with the west not out of choice (a position of strength) but dependency (a position of weakness). Also its necessary to not judge other powers base on the behaviours of the west. Alot of evils are unique to the west such ad slavery by race, scientific racism, structural discrimination, things you won't get from other bloc. Also, to know how someone would behave in the future, the past is a good prediction. The Chinese civilisation is one of, if not the oldest on earth. An unbreakable civilisation from straight 6000 years. All through Chinese history, they have never been one, just one incident where they treated Africans with disrespect. If you know any, please let me know. Western civilisation is just less than five hundred years, and this has been the worse time for Africa since recorded history. The USSR (and now its successor state, Russia) genuinely supported lots of African independence struggles. They helped and saved us from a bigger trouble by all the wars they've fought against the west who they suffer from as well. If Napoleon/Hitler successfully defeated Russia and the Brits/Japan/US coalition succefully defeated China, just think for a moment what would become of Africa. You think slavery and feeding of black babies to crocodiles as bait in southern US state is worse? You never see anything. From the year 2000 to 2020, a mere twenty years period where China and and Russia are in the background getting their act together before exercising their strength on the global stage, just imagine how many countries the west and nato invaded. From Serbia, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Palestine, to name a few. Only a matter of time, it would be all of us. By allies, I'm not referring to being a parasite and hoping they save us from ourselves, but it's how a plant seek shade in the sunlight and a good soil, to grow, become strong and can stand on its own. The fact is we have passed the point to do this one our own, we simply need help. 7 Likes |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by Savagr(m): 1:24pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
CaveAdullam:I now understand better ❤️ 2 Likes |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by saladinnoir: 2:40pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
Artiiclebeast: Thank you for your opinion. If it isn't a bother could you tell me something about atiku? I've ruled out tinubu due to age. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by Gerrard59(m): 3:46pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
pansophist: Errrm, during the onslaught of Covid, black Africans, both students and working professionals, were derided, discriminated against and falsely accused of spreading a disease that originated from a city in China. They were made to use different lanes and kept in-doors. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by Artiiclebeast: 4:54pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
saladinnoir: He is a cunning and even more desperate klepto than Tinubu with nothing and absolutely nothing to offer other than to increase his net worth and holdings. Do not take my word for it and I urge you to follow your heart and conscience to exercise your fundamental right to vote for whoever is pleasing to you. However, we all should be ready to face and take full responsibility for our choices going forward. The one piece of advice I'd chip in here again is, that whenever you get a chance with any of the candidates or their minions campaigning for them, ask them valid, salient, and very uncomfortable questions that'd make them stutter. Ask the questions about who and what they think is holding Nigeria and her people down. Ask them questions about their alliances/relationships with these demons and situations holding the country and people down and how they seek to hurt themselves in the process of liberating Nigeria and Nigerians from their very own roguish and demonic selves. Ask them how they intend to tell off the owners of the company called Nigeria and succeed in building a country everyone would be happy to call home? The matter plenty my brother. Just follow your heart and hope for the best. After all, the option left to us are the three major candidates. What to do? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by seguno2: 5:02pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
Gerrard59: Many thanks for the reminder. Will we ever be wise enough to stop being like that one talent guy in the parable of Jesus Christ? Will we ever 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by MrWraith: 5:13pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
pansophist:Imperialism is a fundamental nature of expanding civilizations, if you think the Chinese or Russians are benovolent that's just extremely naive. Anybody that got to the Apex first would have done just like the West (Remember before there was a trans-atlantic slave trade there was a trans-saharan slave trade). The anti-western and pro Chinese and Russo sentiment I keep seeing here won't help Africans. Neither the west nor the Chinese have our best interest at heart. Any kind of blind alliance with China will get the same result as the one with the west. The economic growth China experienced in the 1980s was because they opened up to foreign trade and investment( majority of which was from the West) and implemented free-market reforms and this is still a kind of "alliance". We simply need leadership that'll find and make use of a comparative advantage, not grovelling at the feet of white or Asian folks. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by MrWraith: 5:18pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
Gerrard59: This! Many of our people see the poor treatment from the West for so long and go with the mentality that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". The Chinese are just as racist and imperialistic as the West if not worse. 2 Likes |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by seguno2: 5:41pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
MrWraith: Please what is the work we have to do to simply get the leadership that will find and make use of a comparative advantage? Or we don’t have to do anything for the leadership to simply emerge 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by MessiahMARLIANS: 8:16am On Aug 05, 2022 |
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Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by MrWraith: 9:20am On Aug 05, 2022 |
seguno2:It starts with getting the visionary leadership into politics, we have bright minds from this country scattered abroad who only critic the government while claiming politics in Nigeria is a corrupt and dirty. And while this claim is absolutely true we can't expect those who are corrupt to bring any positive change so why not the "good guys" come down and slug it out starting at the grassroots. If you believe the government of the day is a failure, get into politics at the local level. Don't wait for anyone, the onus is on you! If we only let jackals and hyenas with selfish interests dominate the political space then we are very much complicit in the rot we see. |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by seguno2: 10:11am On Aug 05, 2022 |
MrWraith: So are you into politics at the local level, or you are waiting for someone 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by pansophist(m): 10:40pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
ednut1: Do you have an handkerchief? I want to go and cry In as much that I'll derive satisfaction by burying bullets in his skull, it's difficult not to agree with what he said, as the evidence speaks for itself. Even on an individual level, I still don't understand the arrogance and the need to oppress others that is common with my people. They derive their sense of worth by standing on your corpse, not from within. You'll see someone that has achieved nothing in his life will feel so pompous and look down on the humble man that can feed his generations. Being modest and humble is seen as low. I see it all the time, folks that their idea of accomplishment is materialism and women. Our issues are foundational, and I'm trying so hard not to use the word biological, and unless we go deep into the bone and diagnose the problem, we shall continue being the laughing stock of the world. 12 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: What Do You Think Will Change In 5 Years Regardless Of Who Wins In 2023? by Dbliz(m): 4:31pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
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