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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by LINSAR: 12:13pm On Apr 16
kunle75:


Egugun be careful ,please that mentality wey dem dey sell for you no dey the same for every body, dm me on nairaland I will run you through some lessons, so you can avoid alot pitfalls, I want help you bro,but you must be genuinely ready to take hardest route not cut corners. But if otherwise you can continue with your journey. Say less

LINSAR:


I am ready to learn Sir. I'll DM you right away!

Sir, after sending you a DM, I discovered I cannot access my mail.
So I'll send you a DM through another account. The username starts with A and ends with E.
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Bobage16(m): 12:18pm On Apr 16
This life is very funny o. I was deeply thinking about this yesterday because Im thinking of learning a hand work then I'll start thinking of relocating to Canada, does it mean I'll have to find 15 or 20metre? What does that one take?
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by kunle75(m): 12:21pm On Apr 16
LINSAR:




Sir, after sending you a DM, I discovered I cannot access my mail.
So I'll send you a DM through another account. The username starts with A and ends with E.

Ok I will check
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by mushroomFarm: 1:21pm On Apr 16
Honlucas:



Bro it's been long yiu updated Ur thread.

How are you?
Hope you are good?
How much is now ur medical school tuition fees for both language course and 1st year md?
Language course is a bit expensive now because of economic reasons. About 140,000 rubles a year (1.4m)
.
On the average tuition fees for most courses are about 150,000 rubles a year.
Students can work in Russia especially right now that we have sanction issues.
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Love800(m): 4:42pm On Apr 16
What about PR?
femi4:
study route
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by femi4: 4:43pm On Apr 16
Love800:
What about PR?
the route is complicated
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Love800(m): 4:44pm On Apr 16
Is it whatsapp?
mushroomFarm:

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+796...44....16...55...77
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Love800(m): 4:45pm On Apr 16
Which route is complicated?
And what do complicated mean in dis situation?
femi4:
the route is complicated
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by mushroomFarm: 4:46pm On Apr 16
Love800:
Is it whatsapp?
Yeah
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by femi4: 4:48pm On Apr 16
Love800:
Which route is complicated?
And what do complicated mean in dis situation?
They use points method to access you using age, education etc
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Love800(m): 4:54pm On Apr 16
Okay.
I want to still ask, can one get a job after studies in russia?
mushroomFarm:

Yeah
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Love800(m): 4:56pm On Apr 16
Okay.
Tanks so much.
femi4:
They use points method to access you using age, education etc
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by victorVIC1(m): 5:47pm On Apr 16
officialfysh:
25 million naira POF is still okay sef, I was told to get 40mil POF and I’m like what’s wrong here

Borrowed proof of funds. That's the secret they will hardly mention here but that is the koko

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Honlucas: 3:19am On Apr 17
mushroomFarm:

Language course is a bit expensive now because of economic reasons. About 140,000 rubles a year (1.4m)
.
On the average tuition fees for most courses are about 150,000 rubles a year.
Students can work in Russia especially right now that we have sanction issues.

For medical degree in your university how much is the tuition fee.

Also what job would you advice someone that is studying medicine to do?
A
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 5:12am On Apr 17
KORLAR:


Thank you for taking the time to compose this.

I have a first class in Business Administration from ABU and I intend to do an MBA but I can’t sponsor myself at the moment.

Please advise on where and how to get a scholarship, preferably fully funded.

Write the GMAT and score at least 750. As an African, that is a very high score. Apply to schools in the Texas/Geogia area, plenty Nigerians dey that side. What also matters is where you have worked and how long. Your impact, too. Extracurricular activities come in at the last.

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 5:17am On Apr 17
Alakoriomo:



But you need to tell the guy that getting graduate fellowship in the US is extremely competitive even for those that have first class. Imagine a school having to defray $51,000 for you in tuition and cost of living for the first year.

The question is people that don’t have competitive profile and doesn’t have parents who can bring $70,000 , how are they doing it?

Those people don't apply to American universities. Unlike in the UK or Canada, international students in the US are not permitted by law to work while studying except inside the campus, and campus jobs cannot sustain one's living expenses or pay one's tuition fees. I don't think Nigerian banks lend to prospective students, unlike their Indian counterparts. And yes, I agree with you that graduate fellowships are incredibly competitive. The dude in question once worked at a top public laboratory in the US during his undergraduate studies. He knows his onions.

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 5:19am On Apr 17
vikgreen01:


Thank you for your prompt responses. One of my uncle want to sponsor me. I just want to know if there will be need for Wes evaluation before applying to either US or Canada university or I can just start applying to universities without the evaluation.
Please make me understand... Thank u

Get the evaluation first. While it is being evaluated, apply to universities.
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 5:24am On Apr 17
LINSAR:


Thank you very much for taking your time to respond.

At the risk of sounding like I'm asking too much, do you have a glimpse of how I can stay back please?
What options do I have?
I know H1b visa is tough and even tougher for non-stem grads.
I know of marriage which I'm too young for.
Any others?

Marriage is your best and fastest option, for everyone sef. The most viable option for a Nigerian is NIW. If a law student (https://twitter.com/ImadeIyamu), not yet a grad o, can be approved, then it is possible for anyone else. Just begin the process immediately you land in the US.

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 5:25am On Apr 17
Dybala11:

Please can you give more insight into this.

Into wetin?
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Yaasir(m): 7:18am On Apr 17
LINSAR:


Understood Sir, thank you!

But do you have an idea of what a competitive profile should be? Considering I'm going for Masters.
I understand I'll need to research but your input is just as valuable. And I may not get the chance to ask questions like I'm doing now.
. Sure, I do. I can offer insight into that. I studied Accounting at undergrad too.
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by 79733139(m): 4:38pm On Apr 17
Can you learn German? Check the Germany threads, there is a new option which allows students to work for a few months in Germany before schooling starts.

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by LINSAR: 9:42pm On Apr 17
Yaasir:
. Sure, I do. I can offer insight into that. I studied Accounting at undergrad too.

Okay please Sir give me insights.
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by LINSAR: 9:43pm On Apr 17
Gerrard59:


Marriage is your best and fastest option, for everyone sef. The most viable option for a Nigerian is NIW. If a law student (https://twitter.com/ImadeIyamu), not yet a grad o, can be approved, then it is possible for anyone else. Just begin the process immediately you land in the US.

Thank you.
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by LINSAR: 9:47pm On Apr 17
Gerrard59:


Write the GMAT and score at least 750. As an African, that is a very high score. Apply to schools in the Texas/Geogia area, plenty Nigerians dey that side. What also matters is where you have worked and how long. Your impact, too. Extracurricular activities come in at the last.

If it's not a T15 MBA he shouldn't bother. MBA is all about presteeej grin
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 3:06am On Apr 18
LINSAR:


If it's not a T15 MBA he shouldn't bother. MBA is all about presteeej grin

Not necessarily. I don't think the Terry School of Business at the University of Georgia is a T15 school. With such a GMAT score, Terry, go dash your scholarship. You become a hot cake to companies within the region. While T15 schools increase one's chances of getting a job, going to the good schools within a region that is not T15 also does that part too well.

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Tranquility2345: 4:41am On Apr 18
Alakoriomo:



But you need to tell the guy that getting graduate fellowship in the US is extremely competitive even for those that have first class. Imagine a school having to defray $51,000 for you in tuition and cost of living for the first year.

The question is people that don’t have competitive profile and doesn’t have parents who can bring $70,000 , how are they doing it?

Na this kind Yamayama English wey you dey speak you wan use go school for yankee? 🤔
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Tranquility2345: 4:55am On Apr 18
Gerrard59:


Not necessarily. I don't think the Terry School of Business at the University of Georgia is a T15 school. With such a GMAT score, Terry, go dash your scholarship. You become a hot cake to companies within the region. While T15 schools increase one's chances of getting a job, going to the good schools within a region that is not T15 also does that part too well.

With a 750 GMAT score, why the fukk will you want to go to a regional no name school for your MBA, when you can get into Harvard, Wharton or Stanford and still get better high profile jobs? Why do people like you like to dream small and be content with being local players when you can go for the best and become big time? Na wa o.
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 8:24am On Apr 18
Tranquility2345:


With a 750 GMAT score, why the fukk will you want to go to a regional no name school for your MBA, when you can get into Harvard, Wharton or Stanford and still get better high profile jobs? Why do people like you like to dream small and be content with being local players when you can go for the best and become big time? Na wa o.

You are right about being ambitious. Maybe na old age don make me dey accept some offers. First, a GMAT of 750 is a rarity for sub-Saharan applicants. I was looking at the sure bet of scholarship; a 750+ GMAT score for Terry would come with a full ride. If Terry is too small, Ross is another good. Also consider that most of our people prefer to stay around places they can find other Nigerians, most are older so that fire burning ambition don reduce, most see postgraduate studies as a leeway to japa not necessarily for added knowledge amongst many things. For first class grads, M7 is a good place. Another thing is the calibre of organisations the applicant worked at before B-school. If not prestigious, the person might be OK with a school like Terry, or if we go higher, Rice is another good school, especially as it is in much more wealthier Texas.

You made a great point, which tells me that I don dey old. When I was much younger, I for no gree anything outside M7 - T15.

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Tranquility2345: 8:46am On Apr 18
Gerrard59:


You are right about being ambitious. Maybe na old age don make me dey accept some offers. First, a GMAT of 750 is a rarity for sub-Saharan applicants. I was looking at the sure bet of scholarship; a 750+ GMAT score for Terry would come with a full ride. If Terry is too small, Ross is another good. Also consider that most of our people prefer to stay around places they can find other Nigerians, most are older so that fire burning ambition don reduce, most see postgraduate studies as a leeway to japa not necessarily for added knowledge amongst many things. For first class grads, M7 is a good place. Another thing is the calibre of organisations the applicant worked at before B-school. If not prestigious, the person might be OK with a school like Terry, or if we go higher, Rice is another good school, especially as it is in much more wealthier Texas.

You made a great point, which tells me that I don dey old. When I was much younger, I for no gree anything outside M7 - T15.

If the person don pass 35, make he forget HWS. For work experience, they don’t necessarily expect Africans to get high profile job pre MBA. As long as the person get decent job (with good name like all them PWC, EY, KPMG, Deloitte, etc), 700 or above GMAT and a great essay, and applies early, he can get HSW with small scholarship sef. E go shock you say that Terry won’t give him full ride. Very difficult to get full ride for MBA. Very rare sef.

BTW, it’s not rare to find Africans with 750 and above GMAT o. Many Africans dey clear that number. And for Africans, you ain’t competing with the rest of the world. You are competing with your fellow Africans. All na quota system 🤐

As far as I’m concerned, if I go HSW, I don’t have to live in yankee or be part of japa crew. I will even prefer to come back to Africa and get a high profile well paid job and maybe even become an entrepreneur using the network of contacts I made from Business School.

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Gerrard59(m): 9:15am On Apr 18
Tranquility2345:


How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? If the person don pass 35, make he forget HWS. For work experience, they don’t necessarily expect Africans to get high profile job pre MBA. As long as the person get decent job (with good name like all them PWC, EY, KPMG, Deloitte, etc), 700 or above GMAT and a great essay, and applies early, he can get HSW with small scholarship sef. E go shock you say that Terry won’t give him full ride. Very difficult to get full ride for MBA. Very rare sef.

Yes, but one Oluseun Akin (ex-PwC) man in his mid-30s got into UNC, an M7 school after acing GMAT very well. You are also right that they don't expect overly stellar work experiences/companies from Africans, provided it is a reputable company, especially MNCs. We have had folks with Shell, ExxonMobil, and even St Nicholas and 54Gene got into good B-schools. However, I disagree that a full ride is not possible. It is if one can get a very high GMAT. Indians get full rides, which is mainly due to high GMAT scores. These scores are part of ranking assessments and schools fight for high scorers. This is why I believe less popular schools can offer a full ride to someone, especially from a minority group with a high score. HWS are used to top scorers, but Ross, Hass and the likes are not, especially from an African.

BTW, it’s not rare to find Africans with 750 and above GMAT o. Many Africans dey clear that number. And for Africans, you ain’t competing with the rest of the world. You are competing with your fellow Africans. All na quota system
🤐

The majority of Africans don't score very high in GMAT and GRE scores. You can check the information online. One Nairalander - Admitwithscholar - shared the link from ETS (makers of GRE). We score poorly in verbal scores than the Chinese, and obviously less in quant. For GMAT, we have an average of 650+. Check the website BusinessBecause. So, just because few Africans score high does not mean on overall we are high scorers. So, 750+ is a rarity, considering our numbers (test takers) are smaller than Indians and Chinese. We should also separate black Africans from North Africans, especially in admission decisions.

As far as I’m concerned, if I go HSW, I don’t have to live in yankee or be part of japa crew. I will even prefer to come back to Africa and get a high profile well paid job and maybe even become an entrepreneur with the network of contacts I made from Business School.

That is what every applicant says during admission and visa interviews. Currently, Indian students at top B-school are worried they cannot get jobs in the US. Fine, they have loans to repay, but do we even get the opportunity to obtain such loans? This one no be POF as in the UK. India's economy is fast growing, yet Indians are dragging their feet on returning to the motherland after B-school. Our folks who return immediately have wealthier parents who bequeathed them with a strong passport.

Trust me, any Nigerian born with a Nigerian passport and was bred in Nigeria would not leave the US immediately after graduating from HWS. Maybe during GEJ years, but not after Buhari destroyed the country's economy and its fabric. During GEJ and OBJ years, folks from the UK returned enmass to work in Nigeria and set up businesses. But today, we have grown men with families selling off their assets to relocate to the West. Then you expect a much younger and probably single dude to return immediately because of a degree from Harvard? shockedgrin

As an instance, the Oluseun Akin man has not returned just as the founder of EduBridge, who studied at Kellogg. Ayodele Dada of UNILAG with 5.0 CGPA with PhD from Stanford has not returned o.

Bros forget, you won't return. grin grin grin

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Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by Alakoriomo: 9:33am On Apr 18
Tranquility2345:


Na this kind Yamayama English wey you dey speak you wan use go school for yankee? 🤔

lol. Plot twist: I had a first class hon in chemical engineering (unilag). And my MSc from the United States.

I’m the last person you wanna treat like this
Re: How Are People That Fall In This Category Able To Travel Abroad? by olutobi123: 9:53am On Apr 18
Per month
Darien4:
Per month or per annum?

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