Federal university paying half a million... They would still buy obsolete textbooks and obsolete handouts.

I remember when federal school fees were between 25k to 70k. You would tell ajar butter kids "do you want to attend school with farmers children?".

Tonididdyx:


Which Kain mumu dullard post be this?
Is it not this same Nigeria that graduates from your highlighted fields are jobless or selfemployed as a roadside chemist store owner and agric graduates work in a bank?

Some of you sef!

Medical Doctors, Nurses and Pharmacists are jobless or roadside chemist store owners in Nigeria?!!

...And you have the temerity to call someone "Dullard'!

Have a word with yourself.

casualobserver:


Like I said it is too cheap. You are straying off topic making emotional arguments. That’s why we are producing graduates are unemployable. No point going to university to get a degree that has no value. If you cannot afford it, go and learn a vocation.

You may not like what I am saying but I am speaking the truth. Most of the students with degrees from 50k -100k universities will never ever get a job with those degrees because most are worthless.

If your university charges cheap fees, they can’t afford the best or even good lecturers, if they can’t employ the best lecturers, they cannot give the best teaching to the students l. If students are not taught by good lecturers, they can’t get good degrees.

If you want to discuss how someone on 30k can afford university fees in the millions, that is a seperate subject. But if you are playing cheap fees you are getting worthless degrees. Some universities charge N50m a year or more for tuition and you think you are getting the same quality of education for your N100k? You think the people paying N50m a year abroad are fools? You are the same ones that will complain that they get the best jobs. I am not saying fees in public universities should be N50m but ideally no good university in Nigeria private or public should charge less that 2-5m.

you're not only being emotional but hyperventilating. You're absolutely wrong @bolded. There are tons of graduates that paid much more ess than that amount that i personally know and heard series of stories and today, they're working in good places in Nigeria and outside the country. Those with good solid results got full/partial funding scholarship to US, Canada, UK, Australia et al for their masters and PhD and today they're all doing pretty fine helping their families and loved ones. Yes, the same cheap or almost free education that you claimed is worthless. Mind you, all these are not only attributed to medical field, they cut across all fields. If you know where that cheap education had taken Nigerians to in life, you wouldn't put up that statements. There are countries with free tuition fee. What about that?

You cannot put the blame on the masses and exonerate your corrupt leaders. Like i told you what is the minimum wage of those countries paying huge compare to ours? Even a toddler in Nigeria knows that they don't have leaders. When Nigerians are ready they will do the needful starting from that outdated Constitution we're using. You see those political offices starting from the presidency to the least will be on part time basis and will attract peanut pay just like they place Nigerians on meagre minimum wage. Let those who truly want to serve get there and they can only do one term. Any political office holder found wanting of stealing will be killed immediately. Do this for just ten years and watch if sanity will not be restored back to Nigeria.

Ofunaofu:
“If the university management does not reduce the fee, I don’t think I can attend school this year or in the next two years. I may have to say goodbye to education.”

We are being told that the Tinubu regime has provided student loans, the first of its kind in the history of this nation. Nothing can be compared to it, not even the Obafemi Awolowo free education philosophy, which was encapsulated in the below quote.

“Every Nigerian citizen must be educated at public expense to the limits of his natural ability, to enable him to be in the finest possible state to produce the utmost he is capable of” Chief Obafemi Awolowo, 1955.

Tinubu's student loan scheme is a momentous achievement.

another fraudulent scheme, you will see

I knew that immediately the loan is signed into bill, university will increase school so parents can start borrowing

Villa12:
you're not only being emotional but hyperventilating. You're absolutely wrong @bolded. There are tons of graduates that paid much more ess than that amount that i personally know and heard series of stories and today, they're working in good places in Nigeria and outside the country. Those with good solid results got full/partial funding scholarship to US, Canada, UK, Australia et al for their masters and PhD and today they're all doing pretty fine helping their families and loved ones. Yes, the same cheap or almost free education that you claimed is worthless. Mind you, all these are not only attributed to medical field, they cut across all fields. If you know where that cheap education had taken Nigerians to in life, you wouldn't put up that statements. There are countries with free tuition fee. What about that?

You cannot put the blame on the masses and exonerate your corrupt leaders. Like i told you what is the minimum wage of those countries paying huge compare to ours? Even a toddler in Nigeria knows that they don't have leaders. When Nigerians are ready they will do the needful starting from that outdated Constitution we're using. You see those political offices starting from the presidency to the least will be on part time basis and will attract peanut pay just like they place Nigerians on meagre minimum wage. Let those who truly want to serve get there and they can only do one term. Any political office holder found wanting of stealing will be killed immediately. Do this for just ten years and watch if sanity will not be restored back to Nigeria.

Nigeria produces 400,000 graduates every year. How many do you know that got good jobs?

Look my friend continue to pay N45k. I don’t have time to argue with dimwits.

Whatever you see you see.

APC and Tinubu has no conscience and feelings for the poor people...it's a pity

If Peter obi was in power schools fees would had been cheap...he is a man that cares for the poor people

labake1:
Tinubu don remove subsidy on education. People don dey miss Bubu

We never dey miss bubu yet ,some urrcchins still dey nairaland dey defend increase in electricity,increase in food prices ,increase in custom duty, increase in education,..them forget say them get family members wey them propaganda go affect ..make them continue

reccy:
Honestly, this is contrary to what we obtain in FUTminna. Up till now, Futmites are paying 60k for fresher's and #39,900 for returning students.
How they manage to keep going with this meagre needs to be studied considering what other institutions are paying.

Sir, freshers na 72k not 60k

I will like to know if he went to public secondary school. Some of these folks claiming they cant afford N300k higher institution bills paid much more for secondary schools. We have to be realistic...education is not cheap. If you must go, you must be ready to finish in 4yrs with a degree that can make sense. Apply for Govt loans if you believe in yourself and cannot afford the amount.

God1000:


https://fij.ng/article/i-may-have-to-say-goodbye-to-education-ui-students-lament-450-750-fee-hike/

FunnyDude:


$500 cheap in Nigeria?
Parents are earning and spending dollars in Nigeria?
Is Nigeria UK?
How much is the minimum wage?

Same parents are earning naira in Nigeria and paying 20k USD in UK .

School needs funding to maintain high standards. If 500k is too much the individual should consider other options like college of education, Polytechnic or stop at secondary school.

Government should only subsidise primary and secondary education since it's a minimum requirement for life.

University education comes at a cost and I consider 500k too cheap.

casualobserver:


Nigeria produces 100,000 graduates every year. How many do you know that got good jobs?

Look my friend continue to pay N45k. I don’t have time to argue with dimwits.

Whatever you see you see.

direct that question to your corrupt leaders that has stolen the future of Nigerians up to their unborn kids. They're in the better position to answer that question not you and i.

A dimwits is better than a Nitwits and a fool that always asslick and exonerate corrupt leaders thereby, putting all blames on the masses.

Villa12:
direct that question to your corrupt leaders that has stolen the future of Nigerians up to their unborn kids. They're in the better position to answer that question not you and i.

A dimwits is better than a Nitwits and a fool that always asslick and exonerate corrupt leaders thereby, putting all blames on the masses.

You are deflecting from the point. How many of the 400,000 graduates that we produce every year do you know, talk less of how many do you know that have decent jobs? The majority are drivers, sales girls and boys, receptionists, bank tellers or unemployed because they are graduates with degrees that have no value in the market place.


Continue with your emotional arguments just like you did with fuel subsidy and electricity subsidy. Fuel subsidy gave you bad roads, electricity subsidy gave you no electricity and university subsidy has given you bad unemployable graduates.

FACT:
1) you pay peanuts, you get peanuts.
2) Education is not free. You either pay in form of taxes or you pay in form of fees. The more taxes or fees you pay the better your education and the less the poorer your education.


You want to go to Lagos from Abuja and you get on a bus to Kano and we are telling you this bus will never take you to Lagos. Instead you start to argue and curse. When you finish arguing and cursing everybody. Your situation and the fact stil remains the same….the bus you entered is going to Kano not Lagos! If you like you get off the bus now, if you like you wait till you get to Kano. Abuse everybody and their father, Either way that bus is not taking you to Lagos!! So if you like think those who are paying huge fees are fools, after 4 years in University you will realize all your 45k university tuition can get you is a 45k job, if you are lucky.

Keep arguing with yourself.

Why are the students complaining? Where is the spirit of Aluta contintinua? The students' union government must rise to the occasion and fight these wicked administrators, who enjoyed freed education including free feeding in their day, but are now make life unbearable for our children. Student should not allow politician like Seyi to come closer to their election venue nor allow vcs to influence who become students' union leaders in their various instructions.

casualobserver:


You are deflecting from the point. How many of the 400,000 graduates that we produce every year do you know, talk less of how many do you know that have decent jobs? The majority are drivers, sales girls and boys, receptionists, bank tellers or unemployed because they are graduates with degrees that have no value in the market place.


Continue with your emotional arguments just like you did with fuel subsidy and electricity subsidy. Fuel subsidy gave you bad roads, electricity subsidy gave you no electricity and university subsidy has given you bad unemployable graduates.

FACT:
1) you pay peanuts, you get peanuts.
2) Education is not free. You either pay in form of taxes or you pay in form of fees. The more taxes or fees you pay the better your education and the less the poorer your education.


You want to go to Lagos from Abuja and you get on a bus to Kano and we are telling you this bus will never take you to Lagos. Instead you start to argue and curse. When you finish arguing and cursing everybody. Your situation and the fact stil remains the same….the bus you entered is going to Kano not Lagos! If you like you get off the bus now, if you like you wait till you get to Kano. Abuse everybody and their father, Either way that bus is not taking you to Lagos!! So if you like think those who are paying huge fees are fools, after 4 years in University you will realize all your 45k university tuition can get you is a 45k job, if you are lucky.

Keep arguing with yourself.

You better stop this premitive argument, those people that are imposing this high fees, how much did they pay in their own time, was education not better than what we have now with high fees?

benjaminlawson:


You better stop this premitive argument, those people that are imposing this high fees, how much did they pay in their own time, was education not better than what we have now with high fees?

In their own time there were less than 10,000 students in total in all Nigerian universities. Today there are over 2 million. In their time there was an acute skills shortage post independence, today there is a surplus.

Go to the UK and make the same argument. universities were once free in the UK, not only free but you were paid £1,000 a term. Now tuition in the Uk is north of £10k a yr.

Look I am not going to argue with you lot. Continue with your substandard low fee university education. You get what you pay for, what you see at the end of your free or cheap education is your problem.

A Nigerian degree today is no more than a glorified school certificate for 90% of Nigerian graduates.

There is a girl who does POS near my office. She is a graduate from one mushroom state university. That is what you get for your cheap tuition. You will never see someone who paid millions for university tuition as a POS operator.

The 1st benefit of a good degree is that your mentality and mindset is different. Your opportunities are different, your contacts are different. Like I said elsewhere, if you are in a school where the children of the elite are not present, you are not in a good school. Children of the elite do not send their children to N45k public universities “elite” does not mean rich!

Look at the CEOs, of top companies, Banks top civil servants. politicians etc, they all know each other because they all went to the same schools and universities. That’s why their children get the best opportunities. This happened because back in the day children of the rich and poor went to the same schools. So even the child of the poor could get the contacts and break into the circle. Children of Nigeria’s President, Vice President, ministers, governors, corporate titans etc sat alongside children of bricklayers in our public schools and universities.

But people like you started necessary protesting fee increases and the elite (knowing the value of good education being recipients themselves) started withdrawing their children from these public schools. So now these schools are only attended by children of the poor. They get substandard education and are not able to acquire valuable life long contacts and connections. Furthermore because o children of important people attend these universities, nobody cares about the standards. The end result is they remain permanently underclass despite supposedly having degrees.

The problem with the masses is they think poor. In the end they pay the price ( we all do but the masses pay a higher price). Same thing with fuel subsidy, electricity and education. We protested fuel and electricity subsidy removal to the point where there are no roads or mass transport like rail, we resisted electricity subsidy removal to the point there is no electricity and you pay more for diesel and petrol generators and now you resisted fee hikes to the point where the education you get has no value.

In the last election every candidate agreed fuel subsidies must go because we all finally realized after years of subsidies there are no roads to enjoy the subsidies because we spent the money for roads on subsidies. Like fuel and electricity subsidies, when you realize that the education you are getting is worthless, nobody will beg you to ask for fees to reflect the true cost of good education. Eventually you will all realize that even N450k is too cheap if you really want good degrees. Eventually you will realize university is not for everyone.

Mystery2020:
Where were the stupid students when ASUU went on strike for better funding of Universities? They were all insulting lecturers. Thank God I have gotten my own degress. Enjoy your increment.

God bless you, my brother. All of them were blaming ASUU for fighting against fee increments and other bad policies. I am so happy this is happening.

I

casualobserver:


You are deflecting from the point. How many of the 400,000 graduates that we produce every year do you know, talk less of how many do you know that have decent jobs? The majority are drivers, sales girls and boys, receptionists, bank tellers or unemployed because they are graduates with degrees that have no value in the market place.


Continue with your emotional arguments just like you did with fuel subsidy and electricity subsidy. Fuel subsidy gave you bad roads, electricity subsidy gave you no electricity and university subsidy has given you bad unemployable graduates.

FACT:
1) you pay peanuts, you get peanuts.
2) Education is not free. You either pay in form of taxes or you pay in form of fees. The more taxes or fees you pay the better your education and the less the poorer your education.


You want to go to Lagos from Abuja and you get on a bus to Kano and we are telling you this bus will never take you to Lagos. Instead you start to argue and curse. When you finish arguing and cursing everybody. Your situation and the fact stil remains the same….the bus you entered is going to Kano not Lagos! If you like you get off the bus now, if you like you wait till you get to Kano. Abuse everybody and their father, Either way that bus is not taking you to Lagos!! So if you like think those who are paying huge fees are fools, after 4 years in University you will realize all your 45k university tuition can get you is a 45k job, if you are lucky.

Keep arguing with yourself.

There are countries that has free education upto PhD level with robust economy, where all and sundry are gainfully employed with descent take home . Those countries do they originate from the Mars? Who told you paying millions in Nigeria tertiary institution will automatically translate to jobs creation and end unemployment with good pay? Have you asked yourself where would Nigerian parents get these money? The same country that top the ladder of poverty? A country with over 230 million population but less than 5% of the population can boast of 500k. A country with 30k minimum wage while some state government are still paying 18k minimum wage in 2024. Nigeria doesn't come close to top 10 country in Africa with reasonable minimum wage. You can't compare US, Canada, UK, Australia to Nigeria because they pay high tuition fee. These same countries pay over #2.5 million as minimum wage equivalent to our currency. What is the take home of their leaders compare to yours? How is their standard of living, healthcare, education, infrastructure, welfare et al compare to yours?

I hope you know not all students will have access to the so called loan? What would be the fate of others? Dropout? Those that have access to the loan how would they pay back? We all know there's no job in Nigeria.

Iseoluwani:
what is wrong with FG SEF, people are about applauding u about what u are doing to d dollar only to do this nonsense

don't know

casualobserver:


Nigeria produces 400,000 graduates every year. How many do you know that got good jobs?

Look my friend continue to pay N45k. I don’t have time to argue with dimwits.

Whatever you see you see.

How many job openings do we have in Nigeria. Ranging from Robotics to Farming. Look B4 you leap

Villa12:
I There are countries that has free education upto PhD level with robust economy, where all and sundry are gainfully employed with descent take home . Those countries do they originate from the Mars? Who told you paying millions in Nigeria tertiary institution will automatically translate to jobs creation and end unemployment with good pay? Have you asked yourself where would Nigerian parents get these money? The same country that top the ladder of poverty? A country with over 230 million population but less than 5% of the population can boast of 500k. A country with 30k minimum wage while some state government are still paying 18k minimum wage in 2024. Nigeria doesn't come close to top 10 country in Africa with reasonable minimum wage. You can't compare US, Canada, UK, Australia to Nigeria because they pay high tuition fee. These same countries pay over #2.5 million as minimum wage equivalent to our currency. What is the take home of their leaders compare to yours? How is their standard of living, healthcare, education, infrastructure, welfare et al compare to yours?

I hope you know not all students will have access to the so called loan? What would be the fate of others? Dropout? Those that have access to the loan how would they pay back? We all know there's no job in Nigeria.

The countries you cite, how much tax do the citizens pay? You dont pay taxes and you want free university education?

I have already said, education is not free. You either pay in fees or you pay in taxes. But as you are a product of cheap education, you read but do not understand. I challenge you to name one country with a population higher than 30m with high quality free university education where the tax rates and compliance rates are as low as Nigeria’s. The countries you mention, examine their tax rates, they are as high as 50%.

You don’t pay taxes, you don’t pay fees but you want good free or cheap education? Where is the money for good quality lecturers and facilities going to come from?

casualobserver:


The countries you cite, how much tax do the citizens pay? You dont pay taxes and you want free university education?

I have already said, education is not free. You either pay in fees or you pay in taxes. But as you are a product of cheap education, you read but do not understand. I challenge you to name one country with a population higher than 30m with high quality free university education where the tax rates and compliance rates are as low as Nigeria’s. The countries you mention, examine their tax rates, they are as high as 50%.

You don’t pay taxes, you don’t pay fees but you want good free or cheap education? Where is the money for good quality lecturers and facilities going to come from?

who told you Nigerians don't pay tax? Like seriously we don't pay tax? How are they paying Tinubu and other political officers if not tax payers money? Are they not our employees? I don't understand the tax that Nigerians do not pay. We pay tax directly and indirectly and our corrupt leaders embezzled the money within themselves and families. Every working class Nigerians pay tax, every business person pay tax, drivers and conductors pay tax, we pay for electricity but we don't have light, we pay for transformer, we pay and hire security in our community, we dug our borehole ourselves. I don't understand the tax Nigerians aren't paying o.

Germany with over 90million population has free education for all and sundry including international students. India, Argentina, Kenya an African nation all had free education for their citizens. Norway had free education but recently stopped it for international students except those going for PhD.

I am not justifying paying peanuts for tuition fee with dilapidated and outdated syllabus. I am only concern at your manner of approach. Why must you exonerate the corrupt leaders God has bestowed with us at the detriment of the masses? I'm sure you know most Nigerian parents cannot afford 500k tuition fee and that isn't far-fetched from the corrupt leaders we have. Imagine ordinary food is now a luxury in Nigeria where APC labrat are always praising their paymaster for taking bag of rice to 50k that is how low Nigerians had degenerated. Your leaders cannot be living large with tax payers money while the masses find the difficult to feed.

Students loan obviously will not go round and those who are lucky to have it might find it difficult to pay back because of unemployment rate in the country.

Villa12:
who told you Nigerians don't pay tax? Like seriously we don't pay tax? How are they paying Tinubu and other political officers if not tax payers money? Are they not our employees? I don't understand the tax that Nigerians do not pay. We pay tax directly and indirectly and our corrupt leaders embezzled the money within themselves and families. Every working class Nigerians pay tax, every business person pay tax, drivers and conductors pay tax, we pay for electricity but we don't have light, we pay for transformer, we pay and hire security in our community, we dug our borehole ourselves. I don't understand the tax Nigerians aren't paying o.

Germany with over 90million population has free education for all and sundry including international students. India, Argentina, Kenya an African nation all had free education for their citizens. Norway had free education but recently stopped it for international students except those going for PhD.

I am not justifying paying peanuts for tuition fee with dilapidated and outdated syllabus. I am only concern at your manner of approach. Why must you exonerate the corrupt leaders God has bestowed with us at the detriment of the masses? I'm sure you know most Nigerian parents cannot afford 500k tuition fee and that isn't far-fetched from the corrupt leaders we have. Imagine ordinary food is now a luxury in Nigeria where APC labrat are always praising their paymaster for taking bag of rice to 50k that is how low Nigerians had degenerated. Your leaders cannot be living large with tax payers money while the masses find the difficult to feed.

Students loan obviously will not go round and those who are lucky to have it might find it difficult to pay back because of unemployment rate in the country.

First of all our tax rates are one of the lowest in the world. Secondly even at this relatively modest level, most do not pay. Thirdly, you are not very bright. Fourth, you have a sense of entitlement. University education is not a right, it is a privilege…basic education is your right not university education.


I stoped reading your post after the 1st few sentences. I am done engaging you and have told you before to carry on advocating for your cheap education and let it take you where it takes you. The rest of us who know, understand and value good education will find the money to send our children to good schools whatever it takes because we know apart from a good name that is the only true legacy of a parent to a child. In Yoruba land we say “Abo oro l’on so fun omoluabi”. …..you only need to speak half a word to a reasonable and discerning person. I have explained and explained to you how just like fuel and electricity subsidies, cheap education is an illusion and penny wise, pound foolish but you are still there displaying the understanding of a jackass!!!

Back in the day pre independence people sold their properties to send their children to universities. It wasn’t free, many went to night school e.g Afe Babalola, many sold properties like Nwodo, others went into business to make money to go to school eg Abiola and Awolowo. It is only because of the skills shortage of independence that necessitated free/cheap University education. It is no longer sustainable. We have more graduates than we have jobs and the best jobs are not gained via a university degree. We have no business subsidizing universities.

Good bye and good riddance!

casualobserver:


First of all our tax rates are one of the lowest in the world. Secondly even at this relatively modest level, most do not pay. Thirdly, you are not very bright. Fourth, you have a sense of entitlement. University education is not a right, it is a privilege…basic education is your right not university education.


I stoped reading your post after the 1st few sentences. I am done engaging you and have told you before to carry on advocating for your cheap education and let it take you where it takes you. The rest of us who know, understand and value good education will find the money to send our children to good schools whatever it takes because we know apart from a good name that is the only true legacy of a parent to a child. In Yoruba land we say “Abo oro l’on so fun omoluabi”. …..you only need to speak half a word to a reasonable and discerning person. I have explained and explained to you how just like fuel and electricity subsidies, cheap education is an illusion and penny wise, pound foolish but you are still there displaying the understanding of a jackass!!!

Back in the day pre independence people sold their properties to send their children to universities. It wasn’t free, many went to night school e.g Afe Babalola, many sold properties like Nwodo, others went into business to make money to go to school eg Abiola and Awolowo. It is only because of the skills shortage of independence that necessitated free/cheap University education. It is no longer sustainable. We have more graduates than we have jobs and the best jobs are not gained via a university degree. We have no business subsidizing universities.

Good bye and good riddance!

initially you claimed we don't pay tax. I burst your bubble then you shift to we pay little tax agenda must agend so i understand your defensive mechanism for your corrupt leaders. My father is in his 60s and he had free college education in Nigeria. Most of those corrupt leaders that you asslick and defend online had free education also. Although we know some of them did forged their results. Like i told you less than 5% of our population can boast of 500k in their bank account. If you can afford it or have property to sell doesn't mean others can afford it. You probably belong to the 5% Nigerians. Just pray they don't kidnap you or your Loved ones because that's one of the thriving business in Nigeria now.

nairalanda1:


lol...I am not an APC supporter, but every Nigerian generation thinks times are bad.

true bro