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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 10:06am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:
INTELLIGENT RESPONSES WELCOME.

As defined by you shebi?
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:10am On Apr 18
StillDtruth:

This is where your jw selective taking of ruth begins.
Clearly, haven't men died since Adam and arent all men still dead and dying today?
Did the bible not clearly State who shall get everlasting life and the conditions for getting it?
Thirdly, did the bible not clearly say that those who died before the Day of The Lord shall be raised to life to be Judged and those found not worthy of everlasting life shall be thrown into everlasting fire?

The wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23

Everlasting life is a GIFT for only RIGHTEOUS people while DEATH is for the WICKED.

That's what the Bible consistently teaches as for Jesus he spoke in parables {Matthew 13:13; 34} and his listeners understood him because their God doesn't support torment of live creatures in fire! Jeremiah 7:31

So the idea of tormenting living creatures inside a burning furnace is unscriptural!

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 10:10am On Apr 18
StillDtruth:


This is where your jw selective taking of ruth begins.

Clearly, haven't men died since Adam and arent all men still dead and dying today?

Did the bible not clearly State who shall get everlasting life and the conditions for getting it?

Thirdly, did the bible not clearly say that those who died before the Day of The Lord shall be raised to life to be Judged and those found not worthy of everlasting life shall be thrown into everlasting fire?




Scriptural references pls
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:

INTELLIGENT RESPONSES WELCOME.

Nigerians need to overcome their British brainwashing and seek knowledge beyond that little book the English thieves handed them.

It's just a pity that you're here typing in their language! cheesy
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 10:14am On Apr 18
MaxInDHouse:


It's just a pity that you're here typing in their language! cheesy

AFRICANS INVENTED WRITING.

AFRICANS INVENTED SPEECH.

If you don’t know your history, I will gladly teach you that too.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:16am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:

AFRICANS INVENTED SPEECH.
AFRICANS INVENTED WRITING.
If you don’t know your history, I will gladly teach you that too.

But why everything about WRITING came from the British nah? cheesy
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 10:16am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


AFRICANS INVENTED SPEECH.

AFRICANS INVENTED WRITING.

If you don’t know your history, I will gladly teach you that too.


Na wa o
😂
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 10:18am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:


Scriptural references pls

Stop pretending as if you do not know the scriptures as you yourself stated the scripures without its citation.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:21am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:

Na wa o 😂

Na real wa!
Some people just wake up from the other side of the bed and the next thing is they want everyone to accept their nightmare as reality!

English alphabet: Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee
álífábẹ́ẹ̀tì Yorùbá: Aa Bb Dd Ee Ẹẹ

Yet someone wants me to believe that Africans invented writing.

Ọmọ sentiment and racism is a big problem o. cheesy

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 10:24am On Apr 18
MaxInDHouse:


But why everything about WRITING came from the British nah? cheesy

What do you mean?

I don’t understand your question.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Apr 18
StillDtruth:

Stop pretending as if you do not know the scriptures as you yourself stated the scripures without its citation.

Normal jabbing of a misinformed churchgoer!

You say what they told you but quote the Bible and interpret you can't! smiley

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:27am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:

What do you mean?
I don’t understand your question.

Ọmọ the British came here to teach our people how to read and write so don't let some racists or sentimentalists fooled you with their cock and bull stories.

If there is any form of writing before the British came here just present it no story! smiley

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 10:33am On Apr 18
StillDtruth:


Stop pretending as if you do not know the scriptures as you yourself stated the scripures without its citation.

Oga
It's simple
Scriptural references na
No be forum we de
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 10:38am On Apr 18
MaxInDHouse:


Na real wa!
Some people just wake up from the other side of the bed and the next thing is they want everyone to accept their nightmare as reality!

English alphabet: Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee
álífábẹ́ẹ̀tì Yorùbá: Aa Bb Dd Ee Ẹẹ

Yet someone wants me to believe that Africans invented writing.

Ọmọ sentiment and racism is a big problem o. cheesy

Ancient Greek philosopher, Diodorus Sicilius, visited Africa south of the Sahara around 300 BC, which was referred to as ‘ETHIOPIA’, and wrote in his famous book, Bibliotheka Historica, that the ‘AETHIOPIANS’ “invented writing, and gave the Egyptians their religion and culture”.

In the ancient world, the Greeks referred to Africa as “the land of the Gods”, and Africans were referred to as ‘the Blameless Aethiopians’ because of their piety and closeness to Divinity.

In the famous book by Homer, The Iliad, we are told that the Greek gods went to rest in AFRICA when they were not in Greece.

One of the greatest Greek gods was Zeus, of which Homer wrote that

“Zeus went yesterday to Ocean, to a feast
With the blameless Ethiopians and all the Gods followed..

There is no time to sit.

To the streams of Ocean…

To the land of the Ethiopians.

Where they offer a hecatomb to the Gods.

I go once again, so as to receive my share of the feast.”

- Iliad, Homer
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 10:41am On Apr 18
The reason you feel inferior to other races is because you do not know your history.

The knowledge of the “blameless Ethiopians” of ancient history is the SAME knowledge of IFA PRIESTS today.

There was no hellfire then, and there is no hellfire now.

You were lied to by criminals whom your illustrious ancestors civilised out of their caves, who turned around later to make guns and firearms to invade and destroy your land, steal your resources and hand you their “holy book@ that threatened you with a fake “hellfire” if you failed to worship them.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 10:45am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:


Oga
It's simple
Scriptural references na
No be forum we de

Forum mean say people dey here since and dem don already know many things, even you seff stated the scripures without citation, so reply my case if you truly have a valid answer.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 10:46am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


Ancient Greek philosopher, Diodorus Sicilius, visited Africa south of the Sahara around 300 BC, which was referred to as ‘ETHIOPIA’, and wrote in his famous book, Bibliotheka Historica, that the ‘AETHIOPIANS’ “invented writing, and gave the Egyptians their religion and culture”.

In the ancient world, the Greeks referred to Africa as “the land of the Gods”, and Africans were referred to as ‘the Blameless Aethiopians’ because of their piety and closeness to Divinity.

In the famous book by Homer, The Iliad, we are told that the Greek gods went to rest in AFRICA when they were not in Greece.

One of the greatest Greek gods was Zeus, of which Homer wrote that

“Zeus went yesterday to Ocean, to a feast
With the blameless Ethiopians and all the Gods followed..

There is no time to sit.

To the streams of Ocean…

To the land of the Ethiopians.

Where they offer a hecatomb to the Gods.

I go once again, so as to receive my share of the feast.”

- Iliad, Homer

Without any sources shey?
When it comes to writing, it is usually credited to Sumeria and Mesopotamia which are non African countries then later Egypt...
Even Chatgpt won't tell you that Ethiopia invented writing
Be quoting nonsense
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 10:46am On Apr 18
StillDtruth:


Forum mean say people dey here since and dem don already know many things, even you seff stated the scripures without citation, so reply my case if you truly have a valid answer.

Oga
Cite scripture na
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 10:51am On Apr 18
MaxInDHouse:


Normal jabbing of a misinformed churchgoer!

You say what they told you but quote the Bible and interpret you can't! smiley

See sensless off point reply of a deluded jw. The present issue is about stating bible verses without citation and you are coming to talk off point nonsense
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 10:52am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:


Oga
Cite scripture na

Oga, answer if you fit answer.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 10:59am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:


Without any sources shey?
When it comes to writing, it is usually credited to Sumeria and Mesopotamia which are non African countries then later Egypt...
Even Chatgpt won't tell you that Ethiopia invented writing
Be quoting nonsense

You wretched, conditioned ignoramus.

Are you aware that BLACK AFRICANS lived on this Earth for OVER 100,000 YEARS before any other race existed?

Are you aware that a PAINT FACTORY was discovered in South Africa, and was carbon dated to 100,000 years old?

And that the paint factory showed evidence of the knowledge of advanced CHEMISTRY?

Google “ancient paint factory South Africa”.

Are you aware that so-called white people came into existence less than 6,000 years ago, and are descended from AFRICANS whose skin tone changed via an outbreak of albinism?

Who will educate you Empty Heads brainwashed by colonialists?

You are in such a tragic state of IGNORANCE.

Pitiful.

Look at him talking rubbish about Mesopotamia of yesterday!

Thousands of LITERATE BLACK AFRICAN CIVILISATIONS ROSE AND FELL for tens of thousands of years before there was a place called Mesopotamia.

Understand?

Go and read about GRIMALDI MAN.

His remains were discovered in Europe and carbon dated to 40,000 years old. He was a black African, and it proved that the first settlers of Europe were BLACK AFRICANS, and they built EMPIRES in Europe for tens of thousands of years before any white people existed.

Don’t bother arguing.

Just KEEP QUIET AND LEARN.

I’ve spent DECADES learning all this.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Solajinspiratio(m): 10:59am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:
Here is what happens when you die.

You rise up out of your body.

You still have a body, but it is lighter in weight, and youngish, roughly around 30 years of age looking.

You lose all previous pain and aches and illness afflicting your old body that’s lying on the bed or wherever.

You will be looking at your old body thinking, “wow…look at that! I’m alive! I’m not really dead! It’s just my old body that’s expired!”

And then you could start to walk around here and there, and you would discover that you can walk through physical objects like walls. Physical humans will be unable to see you, but you can see them.

You will see them crying over your dead body. You will feel like telling them “No! Stop crying! I’m not really dead!”, but they will not see or hear you.

You will stand there with them screaming that you are alive. They won’t see or hear you, and will just walk right through your new body as if it wasn’t there.

You will find that you don’t need to walk to get anywhere. You can simply ‘float’, ie just stand a little above the ground and float to your destination. You can also FLY, if you want to get somewhere quicker.

You don’t need to know the directions to wherever you are going. You simply think of where you want to go, and you will find yourself heading there.

You will discover that you are unaware of the passage of time. You can accelerate ‘time’ in your head.

For instance, say you want to observe your funeral, you will not need to experience the passage of a week or however long it takes them to arrange it. You will see it happening in what seems to be a five or ten minute period to you.

You might decide after that to move on into the Afterlife realm where trillions of beings like you reside…

There lies the Real World.

The place scientists call ‘Dark Matter’.

As physical humans, we can only observe 0.005% of the universe.

Just that tiny sliver of matter that can reflect light.

The rest of the 99.995%, ie ‘Dark Matter’, we are blind to.

It is where we go when we dream.

That is where all the people we think are dead reside. That’s where God resides.

That’s the REAL WORLD we ALL return to after this brief experience we call ‘life on Earth’.

When you die, you do not ‘Rest in Peace’.

You return back to a life of endless ACTIVITY, ie the direct opposite of “resting in peace”.

There is no ‘hellfire’ waiting for you there.

The very idea is laughed at by people there.

If you were evil in your Earth life, the only ‘punishment’ you experience is your conscience.

There, your conscience is far more substantive and profound than it is here.

What seems like a small offence to you here, feels like a big crime to you there, and you have a strong urge to make amends.

Some people decide to reincarnate as Earth humans to do that, perhaps by becoming religious figures, teachers, charity workers etc.

Divine Revelation: Fela Kuti Laments Agonizingly From Hell.

During a Divine encounter on a prayer mountain, Lord Jesus Christ sent Archangel Michael to Daniel Godswill in order to take him to Hell and show him the hopeless condition of damned souls who are agonizing in Hell.

Among the damned souls in Hell Daniel saw was late Fela Kuti, popularly known by his numerous fans as 'King of Afrobeat' Music while alive on Earth. He died at the age of 58 years in August 2, 1997.

Archangel Michael revealed to Daniel the sinful lifestyle and unrepentant condition that brought Fela Kuti to Hell after his death on Earth in 1997.

Surely, after physical death on Earth comes judgment (Hebrews 9:27). Therefore, it is necessary to accept the great salvation offer of Lord Jesus Christ while one is still alive on Earth because there is no hope of salvation again after physical death.

Daniel Godswill testified:

I Saw Fela Kuti In Hell.

As I and the Angel of the Lord continue moving, we reached the chamber of a man, who was all filled with intensive fire burning with great degrees. In it, were filled with worms on his face, poisonous snakes, so demonic and dangerous (Mark 9:43-48).

The Lord's Angel said to me, "Daniel, that you see there, is Fela Kuti. He is here, for making himself as a god."

He was crying for help but immediately he opens his mouth, a very huge snake would enters his mouth and will be moving inside of his mouth. That will make him shouts and scream but to no avail to help him.

The Lord's Angel told me, "Daniel, tell the people who believe in reincarnation that they will end up in here. No humanity is reincarnated for any reasons (Hebrews 9:27).

At this point, the man inside this burning fire came out, and began to plead and asking the Angel to remove him out from there. He said to Him, "Haven't I suffered enough for coming in here? Save me for once to rest a little for I have already suffered enough right from the day I arrived in here."

The man, known as Fela Kuti said to the Angel, "I didn't led the people to worship me on Earth, please, I only did what I was supposed to do and I ended up in here. I didn't do anything wrong."

Then, immediately he said that, a big screen showed and appeared before us and behold, I saw him, while he was still on Earth, advising the people to sing and curse the Most High God by telling them, there is nothing like God but of his own god.

After that was done, another place was shown where he was fornicating with two women at the same time, with his cigarette on his left hand while the two women was having intercourse with him.

After this, another place was shown where he was about to give up the ghost. He was telling his followers to build up a shrine of his name after his death and making the people worshiping him and praising his name before he then died. After then, the screen disappeared.

The Angel asked him, "Kuti in all your life time, did you asked Lord Jesus Christ of whom you rejected for forgiveness?" He began to insults the Angel and God the Creator for........

Continue reading........
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:59am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:

Ancient Greek philosopher, Diodorus Sicilius, visited Africa south of the Sahara around 300 BC, which was referred to as ‘ETHIOPIA’, and wrote in his famous book, Bibliotheka Historica, that the ‘AETHIOPIANS’ “invented writing, and gave the Egyptians their religion and culture”.
In the ancient world, the Greeks referred to Africa as “the land of the Gods”, and Africans were referred to as ‘the Blameless Aethiopians’ because of their piety and closeness to Divinity.
In the famous book by Homer, The Iliad, we are told that the Greek gods went to rest in AFRICA when they were not in Greece.
One of the greatest Greek gods was Zeus, of which Homer wrote that
“Zeus went yesterday to Ocean, to a feast
With the blameless Ethiopians and all the Gods followed..
There is no time to sit.
To the streams of Ocean…
To the land of the Ethiopians.
Where they offer a hecatomb to the Gods.
I go once again, so as to receive my share of the feast.”
- Iliad, Homer

Guy, i'm a NIGERIAN not ETHIOPIAN nah.

Talk about my own side not Ethiopia the British themselves were also colonized by Rome so someone must bring something and that's what we are saying now.

If ETHIOPIA has developed writing system before Jesus it doesn't mean all Africans did the same.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 11:03am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


You wretched, conditioned ignoramus.

Are you aware that BLACK AFRICANS lived on this Earth for OVER 100,000 YEARS before any other race existed?

Are you aware that a PAINT FACTORY was discovered in South Africa, and was carbon dated to 100,000 years old?

And that the paint factory showed evidence of the knowledge of advanced CHEMISTRY?

Google “ancient paint factory South Africa”.

Are you aware that so-called white people came into existence less than 6,000 years ago, and are descended from AFRICANS whose skin tone changed via an outbreak of albinism?

Who will educate you Empty Heads brainwashed by colonialists?

You are in such a tragic state of IGNORANCE.

Pitiful.



Call me wretched sir
Call me empty head

The oldest proof of civilization is about 5000 years old

Is Mesopotamia and Sumeria in Africa than they are credited with the invention of writing before Africa?
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:04am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


You wretched, conditioned ignoramus.

Are you aware that BLACK AFRICANS lived on this Earth for OVER 100,000 YEARS before any other race existed?

Are you aware that a PAINT FACTORY was discovered in South Africa, and was carbon dated to 100,000 years old?

And that the paint factory showed evidence of the knowledge of advanced CHEMISTRY?

Google “ancient paint factory South Africa”.

Are you aware that so-called white people came into existence less than 6,000 years ago, and are descended from AFRICANS whose skin tone changed via an outbreak of albinism?

Who will educate you Empty Heads brainwashed by colonialists?

You are in such a tragic state of IGNORANCE.

Pitiful.


Guy you've read too many books now you're trying to make others accept what you read by insulting them.
Stories plenty o so don't let anyone enter into your head too much rather think of what will benefit everyone anybody can just wake up and start telling stories of 25,000,0000,000 years ago nobody dey there! cheesy
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 11:07am On Apr 18
MaxInDHouse:


Guy you've read too many books now you're trying to make others accept what you read by insulting them.
Stories plenty o so don't let anyone enter into your head too much rather think of what will benefit everyone anybody can just wake up and start telling stories of 25,000,0000,000 years ago nobody dey there! cheesy
He wants us to believe that oyinbo were descendants of an albino black man
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 11:09am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


You wretched, conditioned ignoramus.
Are you aware that BLACK AFRICANS lived on this Earth for OVER 100,000 YEARS before any other race existed?

See it, insalt has started because you could not answer meanwhile your response is OFF POINT. The topic is not whether black africans lived for over 100,000 years
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 11:15am On Apr 18
MaxInDHouse:


Guy, i'm a NIGERIAN not ETHIOPIAN nah.

Talk about my own side not Ethiopia the British themselves were also colonized by Rome so someone must bring something and that's what we are saying now.

If ETHIOPIA has developed writing system before Jesus it doesn't mean all Africans did the same.

You don’t understand.

THE ANCIENT GREEK NAME FOR ALL AFRICA SOUTH OF THE SAHARA WAS ‘ETHIOPIA’.

The modern day nation of Ethiopia is not the ETHIOPIA of the ancient world.

There are ancient MAPS you can check out on Google where you will see all Africa south of Egypt named ‘ETHIOPIA’.

In fact the Atlantic Ocean in those maps is named the ‘ETHIOPIAN OCEAN’.

A lot has changed on this Earth.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 11:20am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:



Call me wretched sir
Call me empty head

The oldest proof of civilization is about 5000 years old

Is Mesopotamia and Sumeria in Africa than they are credited with the invention of writing before Africa?

Is a 100,000 year old paint factory showing evidence of chemistry knowledge not proof of civilisation in your head?

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-15257259.amp
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 11:23am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


Is a 100,000 year old paint factory showing evidence of chemistry knowledge not proof of civilisation in your head?

Paint factory kor
Amala industry ni

Just de play

How did you know that you were not brainwashed?
Which African invented carbon dating?
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 11:26am On Apr 18
StillDtruth:


See it, insalt has started because you could not answer meanwhile your response is OFF POINT. The topic is not whether black africans lived for over 100,000 years

So WHAT is the point?

That those black Africans were just there running around in the bush for 95,000 years until WHITE PEOPLE appeared 5,000 years ago from the sky to civilise them?

Is THAT your point?

Thoughtless thing.

I just don’t have patience for brainwashed people.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 11:30am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:


Paint factory kor
Amala industry ni

Just de play

How did you know that you were not brainwashed?
Which African invented carbon dating?

Now I know you are an empty headed school dropout and dunce.

Get lost.

I’m done with you.

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