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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:40am On Apr 23
Janosky:

Pastor Stop LYING.
You are definitely deceiving yourself.
Did MaxinDhouse put that exclamation in your own Bible @ John 20:28?
Why are you denying this screenshot evidence of John 20:28 proven you wrong?

By the end of the day he will tell you that those who disagree with his opinion regarding what he has concluded despite the exclamation mark will go to Hellfire! cheesy

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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 11:45am On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:



The Jews knew he was placing himself in the same class as God when he calls God father. No one ever did that..

John 5:18, the Jews said:
"he was even calling God his Father" ( correct & true).
"making himself equal with God" (false allegation the Jews made against Christ is the doctrine that Oga Ken is defending on this platform.

Very Mumu doctrine.) grin grin

Do you agree that you calling God your own Father amounts to making yourself equal with God?

Make everybody reason am & check am nau.

Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 11:47am On Apr 23
MaxInDHouse:


By the end of the day he will tell you that those who disagree with his opinion regarding what he has concluded despite the exclamation mark will go to Hellfire! cheesy
grin grin
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 11:56am On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:


Does the fact that you have a boss you report to makes your boss more human or more man than you?

Put in another way, Jesus is a God being. He is God in very essence and nature. He only took up a human form to die for us.

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Jesus Christ is a godlike (divine/a god) being, Small letter 'god' @ John 10:33 ( same as 1 Corinthians 8:4-5. Acts 12:22.

Trinitarians knew that sticking to correct rendition of ' a god' @ John 10:33 would cause serious issues for their claim of John 1:1, they preferred to change John 10:33 to blend with their lies.) grin

But your Trinitarian mentors CHANGE that to capital big letter 'God.'

You want proof?
Go & do extensive research .
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:58am On Apr 23
Janosky:

John 5:18, the Jews said:
"he was even calling God his Father" ( correct & true).
"making himself equal with God" (false allegation the Jews made against Christ is the doctrine that Oga Ken is defending on this platform.
Very Mumu doctrine.) grin grin
Do you agree that you calling God your own Father amounts to making yourself equal with God? Make everybody reason am & check am nau.[/b]
They can pick anything to support their Trinity!

Thomas who said he will never believe Jesus has been raised from the dead until he see him and stick his finger into the nail wounds {John 20:24-25} Jesus brought up a materialized body to convince Thomas which led to the exclamation now means Thomas believes not that Jesus has been raised from the dead but that he is LORD and GOD of Thomas! John 20:26-28 cheesy

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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 12:23pm On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:


Some of the statement credited to him revealed his Deity.

He said, before Abraham was, I Am.
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"Ego eime (I am)" , Christ made the same expression @ John 6:20. Mark 6:50,Mark 13:6, John 9:9 John8:,24,28.
@ John 8:28, starting From verses 1-28, & these other verses,did Jesus Christ mean that "I am" @ verse 28 meaning he is God Almighty?

Trinitarians are very deceptive clinging to verse 58, to support their man made scam invented at Nicene.
grin grin

Ken4Christ:


He said that whoever has seen me as seen the Father.
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John 5:37 & John 14:9,Is Jesus Christ God his Father?

Worshipping 2 beings is idolatry & polytheism NOT Christianity.

Ken4Christ:

What about where he said, 'I am the first and the last'. No ordinary human can make that statement.

Eschatos & alpha are two different Greek words & their context is different.
D

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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Iamanoited: 2:47pm On Apr 23
Janosky:


No verse no chapter.
Your personal opinion.
grin

It's a PROFESSIONAL CONSULT.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ken4Christ: 9:35pm On Apr 23
Janosky:

"Ego eime (I am)" , Christ made the same expression @ John 6:20. Mark 6:50,Mark 13:6, John 9:9 John8:,24,28.
@ John 8:28, starting From verses 1-28, & these other verses,did Jesus Christ mean that "I am" @ verse 28 meaning he is God Almighty?

Trinitarians are very deceptive clinging to verse 58, to support their man made scam invented at Nicene.
grin grin


John 5:37 & John 14:9,Is Jesus Christ God his Father?

Worshipping 2 beings is idolatry & polytheism NOT Christianity.



Eschatos & alpha are two different Greek words & their context is different.
D

So the angels in heaven, the twenty four elders and the four living creatures that worshiped God the Father and the lamb (Jesus) are committing idolatry?

Revelation 5:11-13
11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

12 Saying with a loud voice, WORTHY IS THE LAMB that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and UNTO THE LAMB for ever and ever.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ken4Christ: 9:38pm On Apr 23
Janosky:

Jesus Christ is a godlike (divine/a god) being, Small letter 'god' @ John 10:33 ( same as 1 Corinthians 8:4-5. Acts 12:22.

Trinitarians knew that sticking to correct rendition of ' a god' @ John 10:33 would cause serious issues for their claim of John 1:1, they preferred to change John 10:33 to blend with their lies.) grin

But your Trinitarian mentors CHANGE that to capital big letter 'God.'

You want proof?
Go & do extensive research .

Your portion in hell will be horrible. Russell and Rutherford are already suffering torments for bringing in damnable doctrines.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45pm On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:

Your portion in hell will be horrible. Russell and Rutherford are already suffering torments for bringing in damnable doctrines.

Boxed! cheesy
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ken4Christ: 9:49pm On Apr 23
MaxInDHouse:


Boxed! cheesy

The demons have you. What a sorry state.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:54pm On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:

The demons have you. What a sorry state.
Exactly what the Pharisees said about Jesus and his disciples so nothing new! Matthew 10:24-25 smiley

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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 10:14pm On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:


So the angels in heaven, the twenty four elders and the four living creatures that worshiped God the Father and the lamb (Jesus) are committing idolatry?

Revelation 5:11-13
11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

12 Saying with a loud voice, WORTHY IS THE LAMB that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and UNTO THE LAMB for ever and ever.


Revelation 5:11-13 gives honour to the God & to the Lamb.
Nothing wrong in doing so.
You give honor/tribute to your parents, Monarchs, Political rulers etc.

Revelation 22:9 worship ho Theo's (the God Almighty).
Angels do NOT give worship to the LAMB (Jesus).

Go & check John 1:1 Greek lexicon, ho Theo's is NOT Jesus (the word

Oga pastor your claim is spurious.
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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 10:38pm On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:


Your portion in hell will be horrible. Russell and Rutherford are already suffering torments for bringing in damnable doctrines.

Oga Pastor,if you get liver, refute this fact:

Jesus Christ is a godlike (divine/a god) being, Small letter 'god' @ John 10:33 ( same as 1 Corinthians 8:4-5. Acts 12:22. Screenshot evidences)


OR,
Oga pastor, continue capping rubbish.
grin

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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 10:41pm On Apr 23
Ken4Christ:


The demons have you. What a sorry state.

The delusion in your head, you carry am enter public forum.
grin grin
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 10:43pm On Apr 23
MaxInDHouse:


Boxed! cheesy

When Oga Pastor has been thoroughly exposed by scriptural evidences he can't refute, the man go dey console himself capping rubbish.
grin
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Janosky: 10:44pm On Apr 23
Iamanoited:


It's a PROFESSIONAL CONSULT.

Dey play grin
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:46pm On Apr 23
Janosky:

When Oga Pastor has been thoroughly exposed by scriptural evidences he can't refute, the man go dey console himself capping rubbish. grin
I told you he is empty headed and the only thing he knows is Hellfire to threaten his mugus! cheesy

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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ken4Christ: 11:56pm On Apr 23
Janosky:


Oga Pastor,if you get liver, refute this fact:

Jesus Christ is a godlike (divine/a god) being, Small letter 'god' @ John 10:33 ( same as 1 Corinthians 8:4-5. Acts 12:22. Screenshot evidences)


OR,
Oga pastor, continue capping rubbish.
grin

The scripture says that God is the first and last. Jesus said he is the first and last. Your small brain can't catch it.

God said he is the I Am. Jesus said he is I Am. And your shallow brain pretends not to know what it means. You will join Satan in the pit of hell who is using you to degrade Jesus.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ken4Christ: 11:58pm On Apr 23
Janosky:



Revelation 5:11-13 gives honour to the God & to the Lamb.
Nothing wrong in doing so.
You give honor/tribute to your parents, Monarchs, Political rulers etc.

Revelation 22:9 worship ho Theo's (the God Almighty).
Angels do NOT give worship to the LAMB (Jesus).

Go & check John 1:1 Greek lexicon, ho Theo's is NOT Jesus (the word

Oga pastor your claim is spurious.
,

You are a liar like your father the devil. There are too many scriptures affirming that Jesus is Worshipped. The same word with the same origin. You are a dead man walking.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by 43Ronin: 12:02am On Apr 24
You see, the problem is that Jesus neva said he was God. He always acknowledge God as his father & even God acknowledged him twice as his son, so where's the confusion coming from
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ohyoudidnt: 5:00am On Apr 24
SIRTee15:


Ohyoudidn't so now admit Jesus has a divine nature. Abi is this not what I'm reading from U.

Oh my God what a glorious day to behold.

I've always known U are too intelligent not to see the truth when faced with one.

TenQ our friend is gradually gravitating towards the truth.
Abutwins let me educate U so that U too will see the truth. I apologise if I detail your thread. Forget about bible manuscripts, Jesus is divine- that is the truth.

Fellow Muslims, we may argue back and forth on whether Jesus is God. But only a very dishonest Muslim will deny the divinity of Christ, It's just too obvious.

Cc Qasim expanse antiChristian don't be left out in this truth seeking revelation.

Shalom

Thomas might have been overwhelmed with emotion and awe. Could he not have been referring to the almighty as his lord and God or Jesus as his lord and the almighty as his God?

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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ohyoudidnt: 5:01am On Apr 24
Iamanoited:
JESUS ALWAYS KNOWS THAT THOMAS KNEW THAT JESUS IS GOD IN HEAVEN.

And this God in heaven came down to earth as many in disguise?
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Iamanoited: 6:27am On Apr 24
Ohyoudidnt:


And this God in heaven came down to earth as many in disguise?


This GRAND ORDER DOMINION IS OMNIPOTENT AND OMNICAPABLE OF BEING NOTHING, MANY, COMPLEX AND SIMPLE IN FORMS, SHAPES AND SIZES.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Iamanoited: 6:44am On Apr 24
Janosky:


Dey play grin


JESUS IS A FANTASY TO US ALL FROM THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION. IT'S HIS WAY OF SHOWING HIMSELF TO US AFTER THE EVIL QUEEN (EVE) MADE US DISOBEY HIM.
QUEEN MARY IS THE MOTHER OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS NOW AND FOREVER.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08am On Apr 24
43Ronin:
You see, the problem is that Jesus neva said he was God. He always acknowledge God as his father & even God acknowledged him twice as his son, so where's the confusion coming from
Jesus said:

“The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’” Matthew 13:24-30

After Jesus' ascension the apostles fight really hard to keep away Satan's agents from among God's people but they were hiding in different congregations pretending that they're also obedient to the faith, the apostles could figure out such ones even knowing them by name {3John 1:9-10} Satan realized that as long as the Apostles are around he won't be able to pollute the body of Christ which is the church so he began attacking the Apostles and killing them one after another {Revelations 12:17} until they are all gone according to Jesus it's the time when all his Apostles are sleeping in death {Matthew 13:25} that's when Satan began promoting falsehood and using politicians to intimidate anyone who objects to such falsehood in fact it's the politicians who later took over that's how fighting and killings became a way to propagate religion after the death of the Apostles! John 10:10
Normally true Christians are no part of any killing because Jesus warned them that they should be harmless as doves! Matthew 10:16

So today watch all these people claiming they're Christians and see how they're arguing in support of politics while they are supposed to be preaching (promoting) the Good News of God's kingdom. Satan only used different keys to lock their brains so that they won't notice the most important assignment given to true believers {2Corinthians 4:4} which is to gather peace lovers globally {Isaiah 2:4 compare to Luke 10:6} this churchian spewing gibberish has no understanding of all these in fact he can't point out any religion that's making peace just as Jesus taught his disciples that's why Jesus has sent his angels today to gather them in different schools of thought globally {Matthew 13:30} like Atheists, Agnostics, Judaists, Muslims, Traditionalists, Buddhists, Hindus, Churchians all claiming they're knowledgeable and ready to talk about what they think they know is none of them can meet up what God promised regarding His worshipers/students in this last days except Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ohyoudidnt: 8:31am On Apr 24
Iamanoited:



This GRAND ORDER DOMINION IS OMNIPOTENT AND OMNICAPABLE OF BEING NOTHING, MANY, COMPLEX AND SIMPLE IN FORMS, SHAPES AND SIZES.

And this God in heaven came down to earth as man in disguise so he could sacrifice himself to his self for man's redemption?
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:46am On Apr 24
Ohyoudidnt:

And this God in heaven came down to earth as man in disguise so he could sacrifice himself to his self for man's redemption?

You didn't complete it because he worshiped himself, prayed to himself and begged as in with heavy sweat to himself so that he can save himself from the creatures he created by himself!

Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by SIRTee15: 9:39am On Apr 24
Ohyoudidnt:


Thomas might have been overwhelmed with emotion and awe. Could he not have been referring to the almighty as his lord and God or Jesus as his lord and the almighty as his God?

Do U believe Jesus has a divine nature? That's my question.
U said up there that Jesus has a divine nature and I want to confirm U actually said so.

Thomas couldn't have used God as exclamation mark- such phrase doesn't exist in those days n Jewish won't call God's name in vain.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by SIRTee15: 9:44am On Apr 24
Janosky:

"Ego eime (I am)" , Christ made the same expression @ John 6:20. Mark 6:50,Mark 13:6, John 9:9 John8:,24,28.
@ John 8:28, starting From verses 1-28, & these other verses,did Jesus Christ mean that "I am" @ verse 28 meaning he is God Almighty?

Trinitarians are very deceptive clinging to verse 58, to support their man made scam invented at Nicene.
grin grin


John 5:37 & John 14:9,Is Jesus Christ God his Father?

Worshipping 2 beings is idolatry & polytheism NOT Christianity.



Eschatos & alpha are two different Greek words & their context is different.
D

Jesus Christ isn't physically God, he's God in flesh.
Jesus is physically human with a human soul but his spirit is the divinity of God.
Unlike our spirit which is made in image of God , Jesus spirit is the divinity of God.

That's why Colossians said in Jesus lies the fullness of Godhead deity.

The human soul of Jesus acknowledged that he was given divinity and he honoured his Father who gave him the divinity.
Daniel 7.13 explain how someone like a son of man was brought before ancient of days and given divinity.


So if U understand above, all the questions U people and Muslims ask about humanity and limitations of Jesus will become clear.

Ask more questions and I will explain further using the scriptures.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:47am On Apr 24
SIRTee15:

Jewish won't call God's name in vain.

Is LORD or GOD a name?

Perhaps you're confused about the use of upper case because Paul made it clear that there are many Lords and Gods so those titles can't be the name of any deity! 1Corinthians 8:5 smiley
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by SIRTee15: 11:13am On Apr 24
MaxInDHouse:


Is LORD or GOD a name?

Perhaps you're confused about the use of upper case because Paul made it clear that there are many Lords and Gods so those titles can't be the name of any deity! 1Corinthians 8:5 smiley

How did Jesus call God?
Tell me the exact word used by Thomas. Pls don't mention Theon because Thomas didn't speak greek to Jesus.

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