blueAgent:


You have no facts.
Just your mind playing tricks in you.

See denial at its finest.

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad.
Aldous Huxley

StillDtruth:


No. They did not! Remember, they did not know what is good or bad.

But does it mean that they did not know obedience/disobedience?

No! They knew obedience and disibedience and that is what God judged them for. That is why i told you to read the Judgment.

Is obedience and disobedience not the same as good and bad?
Does obedience not stand for good in the standpoint of God while disobedience stands for bad?
So where is the difference coming from?

Michael547:

Is obedience and disobedience not the same as good and bad?

Nope!

At this time, good and bad app was not activated, so it was not working on obedience/ disobedience.

So, the only thing they knew was obedience/disobedience, and that is what God judged them for.

blueAgent:


Who says it does not matter? That's the kind of mentality that made Eve to accept the Devils lies.

What apple represents is inconsequential. Main crux of the matter is that Man's Fall was due to disobedience of God's instruction.

Michael547:

Somebody does not know that eating from the tree is bad and you are blaming him for doing bad or committing a sin. How does that make any sense?

He disobeyed God. He knew about the tree. These were some of the commandments or manual given to them to run the garden

Genesis 2:15-17

The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

GanagiBitrus:

What apple represents is inconsequential. Main crux of the matter is that Man's Fall was due to disobedience of God's instruction.

So is it good that ppl mis -interpret God's word?

Thats while, there are so many different churches with different doctrines.

One fake prophet came and deceived his members that they don't need medical help, when sick but they should depend on faith for healing.

StillDtruth:


See denial at its finest.

Which denial, you see obvious bible verse they find Fantasy.

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


Tell me what is figurative in those bible verses above?

StillDtruth:


Yet you are not able to show why and how it is naive! Proves you never had anything in the first place but that you are just here to insalt and abuse.

Your username is ironic.

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Read and digest.

There is nothing figurative about Garden, dressing, man, tree of knowledge and life.

Stop over working your imagination.

blueAgent:


Which denial, you see obvious bible verse they find Fantasy.

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Tell me what is figurative in those bible verses above?

See dodging and denial at work. Everyone is concentrating on the Commandments itself, you are going off point to look at how God made tthe trees to grow and put man in it.

If you can, focus on The Commandment and attend to my presentation in it, if you care.

StillDtruth:


Nope!

At this time, good and bad app was not activated, so it was not working on obedience/ disobedience.

So, the only thing they knew was obedience/disobedience, and that is what God judged them for.

So why did God later say the disobedience was bad and punished Adam since Adam did not even know that disobedience was bad?
How is that fair?

femi4:
He disobeyed God. He knew about the tree. These were some of the commandments or manual given to them to run the garden

Genesis 2:15-17

The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

Did Adam know that eating from the tree was bad?
Yes or no?

StillDtruth:


See dodging and denial at work. Everyone is concentrating on the Commandments itself, you are going off point to look at how God made tthe trees to grow and put man in it.

If you can, focus on The Commandment and attend to my presentation in it, if you care.

is the commandments different from how GOd made the trees?

You just proved your naivety.

The purpose of me mentioning the ground and GOD planting trees was to prove, that the fruit and the tree were not figurative.

Mr Know all , we should believe that GOD planted SEX in the ground? Since it was tree, he planted and its fruit was the commandments he gave Adam and Eve not to touch or eat.

Your brain need to reset.

blueAgent:


So is it good that ppl mis -interpret God's word?

Thats while, there are so many different churches with different doctrines.

One fake prophet came and deceived his members that they don't need medical help, when sick but they should depend on faith for healing.

Now you are talking about doctrines which are very important & form the basis of beliefs & Sects in Christendom.

Nothing doctrinal about what Apple represents in the Garden of Eden.
Assuming there are Doctrinal Teachings that Sex is forbidden based on misconception that the Apple represented sex, then the topic would have been worthwhile.

Go back to the thread & see how people spent 8pages arguing to&fro on irrelevancies, & neglecting the more important lesson of Disobedience to Divine Instruction.

GanagiBitrus:


Now you are talking about doctrines which are very important & form the basis of beliefs & Sects in Christendom.

Nothing doctrinal about what Apple represents in the Garden of Eden.
Assuming there are Doctrinal Teachings that Sex is forbidden based on misconception that the Apple represented sex, then the topic would have been worthwhile.

Go back to the thread & see how people spent 8pages arguing to&fro on irrelevancies, & neglecting the more important lesson of Disobedience to Divine Instruction.

If it was not important, do you think GOD would mention it or lay emphasis on it?

Michael547:

Did Adam know that eating from the tree was bad?
Yes or no?

yes
The proof here

for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

All they knew then were based on what God told them until they ate the fruit.


After eating the fruit , they acquired additional knowledge on their own e.g "They discovered that they were naked "

femi4:
yes
The proof here

for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

All they knew then were based on what God told them until they ate the fruit.


After eating the fruit , they acquired additional knowledge on their own e.g "They discovered that they were naked "

So meaning that Adam and Eve knew good and bad before eating from the tree right?

blueAgent:

is the commandments different from how GOd made the trees?

You just proved your naivety.

The purpose of me mentioning the ground and GOD planting trees was to prove, that the fruit and the tree were not figurative.

Your brain need to reset.

Is "how God made trees" a Commandment?

See how you have proven that you refuse to focus on the issue because of you do not want the Truth, so you are in denial proving the Truth of

"Denial is the Way People Handle What they Cannot Handle or What they Don't want to Handle"

Carelessly not remembering that

"ignoring the signs is a good way to end up at the wrong destinatiln"!

And all tbese explains why you would ignore the signs that your wife is fucking her boss because he gave you people a car. What a denial.

You need a new soul this one is damaged and condemned patapata and cannot be reset or formatted.

blueAgent:

Mr Know all , we should believe that GOD planted SEX in the ground? Since it was tree, he planted and its fruit was the commandments he gave Adam and Eve not to touch or eat.

People already believe whatever they want to believe but all i said is look at the signs and you have seen it and you have seen you cannot answer it and that is sufficient.

Michael547:

So meaning that Adam and Eve knew good and bad before eating from the tree right?

No, you cannot generalise. They had limited knowledge

All they knew were information given to them by God.

It's like teaching a baby how to sing, later the baby discovered he could dance after acquiring additional knowledge maybe from watching TV etc

It's like telling a girl that she will get pregnant with a touch from a guy but she later discovered that it is through sex



Gen 3:2

And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever

Michael547:

So why did God later say the disobedience was bad and punished Adam since Adam did not even know that disobedience was bad?
How is that fair?

Where did God say that?

And did you not see that (if He truly Said that) He Said that only after man now knew good and bad?

Which is why you see that God judged them only for obedience/disobedience.

StillDtruth:


Where did God say that?

And did you not see that (if He truly Said that) He Said that only after man now knew good and bad?

Which is why you see that God judged them only for obedience/disobedience.

So you are saying that Adam's disobedience was not bad in the eyes of God since Adam did not even know what was good or bad?

femi4:
No, you cannot generalise. They had limited knowledge

All they knew were information given to them by God.

It's like teaching a baby how to sing, later the baby discovered he could dance after acquiring additional knowledge maybe from watching TV etc

It's like telling a girl that she will get pregnant with a touch from a guy but she later discovered that it is through sex



Gen 3:2

And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever

So If the information given to them did not include good and bad, is it fair to hold Adam responsible for committing bad since this guy did not Even know the difference between good and Bad?
Nawa for una oo.

Michael547:

So you are saying that Adam's disobedience was not bad in the eyes of God?

I am saying good and bad was not in issue or in view when God judged which His judgment shows that they were judged only on obedience/disobedience.

StillDtruth:


I am saying good and bad was not in issue or focus when God judged which His judgment shows that they were judged only on obedience/disobedience.

So you are saying that obedience did not mean good while disobedience did not mean bad in the eyes of God right?

Michael547:

So you are saying that obedience did not mean good while disobedience did not mean bad in the eyes of God right?

Did you not read "knowing good and bad like us"

God already knows but did man know? No.

And did God judge them for it? No, He did not.

He only judged them for their obedience/disobedience which they knew.

StillDtruth:


Did you not read "knowing good and bad like us"

God already knows but did man know? No.

And did God judge them for it? No, He did not.

He only judged them for their obedience/disobedience which they knew.

So therefore, the man did not do anything bad by disobeying God?
Yes or no?

Michael547:

So therefore, the man did not do anything bad by disobeying God?
Yes or no?

Bad and good was not activated, them so, like God, no one can put them in.

StillDtruth:


Bad and good was not activated, them so, like God, no one can put them in.

Oga I no understand this your statement.....
Adam did not do anything bad by eating the fruit from the tree, yes or no?

GanagiBitrus:


Now you are talking about doctrines which are very important & form the basis of beliefs & Sects in Christendom.

Nothing doctrinal about what Apple represents in the Garden of Eden.
Assuming there are Doctrinal Teachings that Sex is forbidden based on misconception that the Apple represented sex, then the topic would have been worthwhile.

Go back to the thread & see how people spent 8pages arguing to&fro on irrelevancies, & neglecting the more important lesson of Disobedience to Divine Instruction.

Is like you do not know the meaning of Salvation and the duty of a saved person.

Colossians 3:16 - Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns
and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

2 Timothy 2:15 ,
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.


Acts 17:11
11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.



There are sufficient scriptures encouraging and urging christains to preach against false Teachings that are not biblical.

StillDtruth:


Is "how God made trees" a Commandment?

See how you have proven that you refuse to focus on the issue because of you do not want the Truth, so you are in denial proving the Truth of

"Denial is the Way People Handle What they Cannot Handle or What they Don't want to Handle"

Carelessly not remembering that

"ignoring the signs is a good way to end up at the wrong destinatiln"!

And all tbese explains why you would ignore the signs that your wife is fucking her boss because he gave you people a car. What a denial.

You need a new soul this one is damaged and condemned patapata and cannot be reset or formatted.



People already believe whatever they want to believe but all i said is look at the signs and you have seen it and you have seen you cannot answer it and that is sufficient.

Which signs?

You want to believe illogical signs that are not related.

I ask u , do sex grow from the ground

Michael547:

Oga I no understand this your statement.....
Adam did not do anything bad by eating the fruit from the tree, yes or no?

Guy you understand it, joor. Good and bad no dey dat time, so no body including you and me no fit say anything dey good or bad at dat time as good and bad no dey for world dat time.

And that is why God did not judge anything saying it is good or bad, so you cannot put good or bad in there, at that time!

blueAgent:


Which signs?

You want to believe illogical signs that are not related.

I ask u , do sex grow from the ground

The thread already proves i showed you the signs and hints in the bible and you saw them so, something is very wrong with you when you pretend that you did not see them and keep saying "which signs?"

And nowhere did i say anything about sex growing from the ground all i show is that too many hints and signs point to sex.

And yesterday, i saw another hint which proves that indeed it is sex which i have presented in the thread https://www.nairaland.com/8069879/another-proof-eves-adultery-mens#129579970.