StillDtruth:


And my answer has always been that they were punished for their disobedience only, since good and bad was not in existence if i may say so..

When Adam disobeyed God, Did he commit a sin?

Michael547:

When Adam disobeyed God, Did he commit a sin?

Yes! That is what disobedience means.

StillDtruth:


Yes! That is what disobedience means.

How can we define a SIN?
Did God tell Adam that Disobedience was a SIN?

Michael547:

How can we define a SIN?
Did God tell Adam that Disobedience was a SIN?

You already see that God did not tell him its a sin, which in God's Judgment, you see He did not Say sin either, He just stuck to the most important thing, which is did you obey or disobey? Period. End of story.

Sin is any act/omission which reasonably annoys and causes pain to a person.

StillDtruth:


You already see that God did not tell him its a sin, which in God's Judgment, you see He did not Say sin either, He just stuck to the most important thing, which is did you obey or disobey? Period. End of story.

Sin is any act/omission which reasonably annoys and causes pain to a person.

If God did not mention SIN in his judgment to Adam, Why do we say that Adam committed a SIN?
How could Adam commit a SIN when he was not aware of SIN?

Michael547:

If God did not mention SIN in his judgment to Adam, Why do we say that Adam committed a SIN?
How could Adam commit a SIN when he was not aware of SIN?

Sin is the word what we who are born after Adam use for describing and explaining all acts that annoy or displease a person.

So Adam does not need to be aware of the word sin only the act which shows sin

And Adam was aware of the act that they should obey God.

So, the only question is did they obey or disobey. That is all. Period. End of story

StillDtruth:


Sin is the word what we who are born after Adam use for describing and explaining all acts that annoy or displease a person.

So Adam does not need to be aware of the word sin only the act which shows sin

And Adam was aware of the act that they should obey God. That is all.

So you mean that in the Garden of Eden, there was nothing like SIN?

Michael547:

So you mean that in the Garden of Eden, there was nothing like SIN?

Did you see any sin before that sin of disobedience they commited?

StillDtruth:


Did you see any sin before that sin of disobedience they commited?

How can you say that Adam committed a 'Sin of disobedience' When he was not aware of SIN?
Don't you think it would be wrong for us to say that Adam Committed a 'SIN' because he was not aware of 'SIN' just the same way that it would be wrong for us to say that Adam did 'bad' since he was not aware of 'bad'?

Michael547:

How can you say that Adam committed a 'Sin of disobedience' When he was not aware of SIN?
Don't you think it would be wrong for us to say that Adam Committed a 'SIN' because he was not aware of 'SIN' just the same way that it would be wrong for us to say that Adam did 'bad' since he was not aware of 'bad'?

Because sin is an actiion, and not a word used to describe an action. I told you that already.

And the question is did Adam do an action WHICH HE WAS AWARE NOT TO DO, that could be called a sin?

And the bible Answered, "Yes" for He WAS AWARE hat He should obey God!

I said this before you went of another direction of "So you mean that in the Garden of Eden, there was nothing like SIN?",
Only to bring it back to where i have already answered before.

So, clearly you are committing ths fallacy of argument in a circle since you do not have any valid thing to say, so this matter is over and no need for endless argument.

StillDtruth:


Because sin is an actiion, and not a word used to describe an action. I told you that already.

And the question is did Adam do an action WHICH HE WAS AWARE NOT TO DO, that could be called a sin?

And the bible Answered, "Yes" for He WAS AWARE hat He should obey God!

I said this before you went of another direction of "So you mean that in the Garden of Eden, there was nothing like SIN?",
Only to bring it back to where i have already answered before.

So, clearly you are committing ths fallacy of argument in a circle since you do not have any valid thing to say, so this matter is over and no need for endless argument.

Lol...you are funny....so what Adam did cannot be described as bad....you are therefore arguing that sin is neither good nor bad.
Is that correct?

Michael547:

Lol...you are funny....so what Adam did cannot be described as bad....you are therefore arguing that sin is neither good nor bad.
Is that correct?

Please now, let it enter your solid head and
heart of stone and stop all these endless repetitions.

I have said maybe up.to 8 times that good and bad did not exist at that time and God did not punish them based on good and bad as His Judgment shows., so you dont have any valid thing to say but turn around and around yourself looking for what is not missing.

StillDtruth:


Please now, let it enter your solid head and
heart of stone and stop all these endless repetitions.

I have said maybe up.to 8 times that good and bad did niot exist at that time and God did not punish them based on good and bad as His Judgment shows., so you dont have any valid thing to say but turn around and around yourself looking for what is not missing.

Lol....SIN did not exist either....neither did God punish Adam for committing a SIN.....so why do you agree that Adam committed a SIN?

Michael547:

Lol....SIN did not exist either....neither did God punish Adam for committing a SIN.....so why do you agree that Adam committed a SIN?

Ehen. New topic. Old one don end finally

Ah, You don dey find the existence of good and bad since now you don see am say e start only after them on sin,

So the correct question na, "When did sin Start?"

When i come back i will raise the thread. see you there

StillDtruth:


Ehen. New topic. Old one don end finally

Ah, You don dey find the existence of good and bad since now you don see am say e start only after them on sin[b][/b],

So the correct question na, "When did sin Start?"

When i come back i will raise the thread. see you there

Abi na...... You talk say bad no dey....so where you see sin?
God no talk about Sin. Even Adam no know about sin According to you. So why we talk say Adam sin? IF disobedience no be bad, meaning say disobedience no be sin.

Michael547:

Abi na...... You talk say bad no dey....so where you see sin?
God no talk about Sin. Even Adam no know about sin According to you. So why we talk say Adam sin? IF disobedience no be bad, meaning say disobedience no be sin.

So come see am for the new thread..