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| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
justlove91:Of course it won't make sense to you since you don't believe that it's one couple that became billions of people today. From the viewpoint of faithful people breaking an egg is equal to killing a full grown cock and also stopping the family of millions of chickens so it makes a lot of sense to FAITHFUL people who believe the Bible! justlove91:It depends on their response to the visit of JWs. Whoever rejects our visit at their homes and never thought about why these people kept coming but decided to treat us like trash has been judged already because such a person has rendered his or her conscience dead. Matthew 10:11-15 justlove91:Gandhi has a lot of chances because in his time he realized that the religionists claiming Christians doesn't have anything doing that relates to what Christ taught or stand for. So many like him will be resurrected when only JWs are on this planet and by then we will teach them what Jesus taught when there is no distractions like what we have today from countless religions. God can never be kicked! To illustrate imagine a teacher who wants to teach billions of students few were very attentive while billions chose to do whatever pleases them and by the time of assessment the few were able to perform excellently due to being attentive to what the teacher taught them. Please with those few WITNESSES performing up to expectation is the teacher mocked? ![]() |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by justlove91(m): 7:35pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Even going by this logic, it doesn't make sense. Mr A killed one person, it was accounted that he killed a billion people (1,000,000,000)because of the potential people that could come from the person killed. If Mr B. killed a million people, it should be accounted that he killed a million multiplied by a billion people (1,000,000,000,000,000). You see, killing a person and killing a million is still not the same thing. |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:43pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
justlove91:As long as he or she has broken the rule: "You must not kill" Nobody cares about the number what comes to mind is whether it happened by mistake or it's a deliberate act once it's found out to be a deliberate act he or she will be sentenced to death. That's exactly the same thing God does. The only difference between man's judgement and God's is that there is going to be a remedy to bring back those innocent people killed but man only removes the killer to stop him from going further! |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by justlove91(m): 7:58pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Is the person's conscience dead because he didn't accept your teachings or because he treated you like trash?? Let's assume you folks preached to Gandhi when he was alive but he didn't accept your teachings, does that mean his conscience is dead?? Gandhi has a lot of chances because in his time he realized that the religionists claiming Christians doesn't have anything doing that relates to what Christ taught or stand for.What if they still doesn't want to join you folks?? God can never be kicked!I read you reply once (correct me if I'm wrong) where you said babies born to other groups apart from JW are waste products and will not be resurrected. If babies and people like Hitler can meet the same fate (not being resurrected) then, justice as not been served, Hitler and Co didn't reap what they sowed, hence, God has been mocked. Galatians 6:7 : "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by justlove91(m): 8:03pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:People actually care, if there is a way to kill the killer a million times also people will, but there is no way so they kill him once. |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:23pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
justlove91:Do you think Gandhi who said Christians shouldn't be warriors and politicians killing innocent people can treat JWs who doesn't engage in politics and military services badly? justlove91:In Paradise there's no religion that could stand apart from JWs so after 100 years of listening to JWs whoever refuses to accept will die as a youth because by then God would have removed sickness and oldage! Isaiah 65:20 justlove91:Children are resurrected because they've been taught God's righteousness or their parents are there in Paradise yearning to see them so if a child has no relatives in Paradise and never grew up to the stage where he or she could make use of conscience such ones have no business with Paradise. justlove91:Death is the wages of sin so if someone has sown something tangible he will be remembered and if someone can't sow anything good due to lack of conscience or without conscience he is also a waste product having no business with Paradise! |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:25pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
justlove91:That's why God's word said that once the evil person dies he has paid for whatever he did! Romans 6:7 It's humans that feel like killing the killer more than one times but God never allowed that because it's against His standard! |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by justlove91(m): 8:31pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Oda, let's move on. So you guys have been resurrected, what will you be doing for eternity? |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:47pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
justlove91:That's the time to go back to the assignment given to the first couple: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28 Pick the assignment one after another! Be fruitful: the planet needs to be filled with happy couples each having their own garden and home. Subdue the earth: all the potentials of the planet we will continue to unravel what man has found like electricity, telecommunication and the rest will be like a half out of billions of discoveries we will make as a global family! Ecclesiastes 3:11 Have in subjection all the animals: we will have all other creatures as pets that we can send on errands and play with them both the ones that are wild now and domesticated ones! Isaiah 11:6-7; 65:25;
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| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by justlove91(m): 8:57pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Will Jesus live here with you?? |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:03pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
justlove91:NO! He was never created here as human his mission on planet earth has been a success so he has returned to his own home! |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Reflect7: 9:12pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:SHUT UP THERE. Which ''God's word''? That some stupid white thieves came here and forced a silly book on your ancestors a century ago, doesn't make it ''God's word''. Unquestioning, brainwashed cretin. |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:16pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
Reflect7:I thought you and i are through with this. So why the restlessness? I believe there's no need for this if you're really mature! ![]() |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Ken4Christ: 10:26pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
Reflect7:Without the book you call stupid, you don't know how the world began and you don't know how it will end. Do you? You are in thick darkness without the Bible. Please tell me which other resources on earth gives a convincing evidence of how this world began and that gives accurate prediction of events of the future. |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Reflect7: 10:45pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
Ken4Christ:How do you know that what is written in the bible about how the world began or how it will end, is true? ARE YOU EVEN AWARE that the original Hebrew texts do not refer to a singular creator? Are you aware that the numerous references to ''The Lord'' and ''God'', in your bible are falsified, and that the original term used is Elohim, meaning ''the Gods''? Are you aware the ancient Hebrews were polytheistic? Are you aware it was Romans and Greeks who stole the Hebrew texts, altered them in numerous places, and invented ''The Lord'' out of nothing, simply because they had turned monotheistic (for political reasons of control)? Are you aware that there existed multiple religious texts penned by the Hebrews, and it was Roman emperors who decided which texts would be included in their 'bible', and which texts would be excluded, all based on their political interests? Are you aware that many excluded texts have totally different renditions of Creation and the end times? Have you heard of the Jewish Apocrypha? These are volumes of Hebrew texts completely excluded from the bible by Roman emperors. They include texts like the testimonies of Baruch, Enoch, Gad, Esdras, Judith, Macabees, and many others. Do you know why there were excluded? Most of you Nigerian christians don't research anything, and you don't know anything. Your heads are just receptors of Roman/British manipulation. Anything they tell you, you believe without question. I think you lot are pathetic. |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Ken4Christ: 10:59pm On Apr 28, 2024 |
Reflect7:You didn't answer my question. Tell me how the world began without making reference to the Bible. Back up your claim that the original Bible is different from what we have. You should have a copy of the original and let's compare. Also tell me what your traditionalist predicted about future events. And how many of their predictions has come to pass |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Reflect7: 1:48am On Apr 29, 2024*. Modified: 2:28am On Apr 29, 2024 |
Ken4Christ:HOW THE HELL is anybody supposed to KNOW how the world began? Get this: The ONLY person who knows for certain how the world began is the CREATOR HIMSELF. No other person knows. All that humans can do is speculate. The bible Creation story is just one out of thousands of Creation stories from around the world. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to claim it is the 'TRUE' story. For starters it says the Earth and everything on it was made in a 7 day period. Does that sound reasonable to you? And then some Christians to cover their embarrassment claimed the 7 days doesn't actually MEAN 7 days. But they never actually say what it means! Is it 7 years? 7 months?, 7,000 years?, 700 years?, 7 million years? ![]() So all we have are Creation myths or legends. For instance, ''The Wassa people of Ghana have a myth of creation that traces creation back to Onyankopon - the great God of fullness and satisfaction who, before creation, was the only being in existence. He created the world to become a companion to him, a wife. Added to the world which he created were also spirits who would also keep him company. He ensured that the world was beautiful and he asked the spirits to visit his wife from time to time. They will make their journey to the world using a long chain that springs from his throne. He also gave the spirits permission to inhabit realities that are on the earth. Their major responsibility was to run errands for him.'' ajol-file-journals_415_articles_217834_submission_proof_217834-4945-535653-1-10-20211123.pdf This is as much a valid Creation story as anything you've read in that bible. Then we have the Akan Creation story: ''Among the Akan, God created the world in the order of the heavenly universe, the earth, rivers, waters, plants, animals, man. The order that we find in creation affirms that man is at the center of the African universe, because we see that God creates every other thing in preparation for man’s wellbeing in the world.'' ajol-file-journals_415_articles_217834_submission_proof_217834-4945-535653-1-10-20211123.pdf So UNLESS God Himself comes down to Earth and explains how he created the world, all we can do is speculate. And there is nothing wrong with that. If God wanted us to know, he would have made the story clear to EVERYONE, and not just Romans. Back up your claim that the original Bible is different from what we have. You should have a copy of the original and let's compare.There is no ''original Bible''! There are original Hebrew texts from which the bible was compiled. It's like there were (and still are) around a thousand different Hebrew scrolls, including some called the Nag Hammadi scrolls, and some Roman elite under the auspices of Emperor Constantine selected like 300 of them and put their contents into a book they named 'the bible', and called it ''the Word of God''! That's all that happened! The Romans claimed they were ''inspired by God'' to select which texts to include in their book, and which to exclude. I mean, come on! If you study the excluded texts, you can clearly see that they challenged the conventional narrative of the present bible, and showed the whites as oppressors whose time for justice would soon come. Of course that was the last thing they wanted in the bible, so no inclusion of those texts! Some excluded Hebrew texts even present Yahweh as a deranged entity that needs caging, and that the being called 'Satan' is actually the entity who did the right things for humans by trying to let them become intelligent and civilised, while Yahweh wanted to keep them down, ignorant, subservient and oppressed! For me, knowing how devious these white people can be, those excluded texts are probably closer to the TRUTH than the included ones. Also tell me what your traditionalist predicted about future events. And how many of their predictions has come to pass?Mr Man, if you want to know about future events, your best bet is to visit your village's most respected traditional priest. He will perform a divination session and tell you what he sees. |
| Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Ken4Christ: 10:12pm On Apr 29, 2024 |
Reflect7:So, your the god of your ancestors is blind. And you are following blind gods. Without the Bible, the world would have been in the dark. And you are rejecting the only source of truth in the world. It seems you love darkness. |
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