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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Philipgarza31: 5:24pm On May 02
SpectaSpace:


You’re so much on point! The era of GCs is fast fading now. More smart homeowners are working with subcontractors and tradespeople in order to cut down their Construction costs.

It makes more sense to go for experienced construction managers who charge per visits instead of hiring general contractors when working on small builds like duplexes, bungalows and other small projects.

What’s the role of a GC in fixing an Italian kitchen?
that is different, the roles of a GC can never be overemphasized.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 5:29pm On May 02
Rounding off the Ilesa Osun state pop project


For your pop and wall screeding let’s talk

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 6:22pm On May 02
Do you have a sample pic of an installed fiber cement ceiling? Kindly share if you do.

diordaves:


Nigerite fibre cement is cheaper to install with minimal screeding of the joints to have a continuous finish.

However, if you now wish to over engineer it to have organic finish like installed POP, you might as well do POP as it would cost you more at the end of the day.

Fibre cement is for a clean, simple modern budget ceiling solution.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by decatalyst(m): 6:54pm On May 02
Masterbiodun:


Can you share your WhatsApp contact?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by VanuatuWycombe: 7:13pm On May 02
Port443:

Can you get exact design as that of a normal pop? In terms of cost, when compared to pop which one is costlier?

You can use fiber cement to do anything like the way POP ceiling is done.
You only need to cut the wood frame into shapes and layers (depending on the thickness of wood you are using for the height) you want and then cut and clad the cements fibers and screw or nail them before grouting.

I may be able to send you YouTube videos of how Arabs do it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:48pm On May 02
Beframia:
Do you have a sample pic of an installed fiber cement ceiling? Kindly share if you do.


I don't have a personal picture unfortunately but here are some from the internet.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Biztech02: 12:33am On May 03
diordaves:


I think you are getting it all wrong. The issue is not if polystyrene will burst into flames. The issue is, polystyrene is a product of petroleum crude. It is not a wise decision to clad homes in petroleum products. This is not the same thing as doors. Doors retard to a limited extent the spread of fire. Polystyrene propagate the spread of fire.

When there is fire, it is not the FIRE flames that kills. It is the smoke, poisonous gas and the lack of oxygen that kills. In the event of fire, polystyrene cladded ceiling will melt and drip to the floor, making escape and rescue difficult. Polystyrene will emit black poisonous smoke, sucking up the oxygen which can lead to death.

No, it is not advisable to clad your home with petroleum products.





You’re very correct sir! Infact as a professional Engr/Builder we must atleast limit usage of combustible elements while choosing materials, most especially on finishing materials.

Is even established in health and safety curriculum


Biztech consult.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PrimeQuay: 8:21am On May 03
Speaking on this Polystyrene,

Is there anyone on here that does installation?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by toyeoye(m): 8:25am On May 03
Biztech02:





You’re very correct sir! Infact as a professional Engr/Builder we must atleast limit usage of combustible elements while choosing materials, most especially on finishing materials.

Is even established in health and safety curriculum


Biztech consult.


Engineer please refer us to this curriculum as it concerns the use of polystyrene.

"Despite many popular beliefs, polystyrene is no more damageable than other materials when burning.

Polystyrene burns and emits energy, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, water vapour and soot, but no other gas. In fact, the black smoke emitted by Polystyrene combustion is less harmful than the smoke coming from organic materials, and less toxic than fumes of a burning fir tree, pressed wood or expanded cork."
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Obnoxious2001(m): 10:33am On May 03
Rany4all:
Maybe you guys need to upgrade your knowledge and methods. I don't think this should be a problem if done properly. It may cost more, but surely there must be a better way to keep the POP suspended under a decking.

There ought to be a platform before the pop
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nomyth: 10:59am On May 03
diordaves:


I don't have a personal picture unfortunately but here are some from the internet.

This is really impressive.

Hope the price difference with POP is substantial.

And hope the money saved on POP will not be spent on wood?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 8:16pm On May 03
There's this option of using plaster board/gypsum board. Do you have any idea about its usage or is it the same as fiber cement?


diordaves:


I don't have a personal picture unfortunately but here are some from the internet.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 8:21pm On May 03
Nomyth:


This is really impressive.

Hope the price difference with POP is substantial.

And hope the money saved on POP will not be spent on wood?

For a clean, simple straightforward design, fibre cement consumes less wood.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:41am On May 04
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 6:58am On May 04
michlins:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:33am On May 04
erico2k2:

you don come south
we come to where the work wants us.

Abuja is a city I actually want to explore

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorLAS: 8:58am On May 04
Do you handle this, if yes pls let discuss, I im involve in a project in which we are considering ceiling type to be use
diordaves:

Nigerite fibre cement ceilings
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by speak2bella(f): 11:04am On May 04
OnMyHonor:


In my own opinion, you will have to breakdown that Long Part of the Precast that is collapsing, no two ways about it.
Break it, retrieve your Iron Rods and redo it (Sink the smaller side first and then sink the new longer one.
Sorry about the waste of money but it is better than having a problematic Soak-away in the ground.

What caused it?
Let me hazard some guesses, from what l can see in the picture.

1) The Precast Walls are Too-Thin. There is a minimum spec for such Soak-away and l think the thickness should not be less than 18cm/1800mm/ 7inches.

2) The Precast was not properly Cured/Dried, before trying to submerge it. The surrounding ground Sand around the Precast will continue to exert external pressure on the Walls of the Precast and if it is not properly cured/dry, the pressure becomes too much for it to withstand and it will collapse. Ideally, you should allow concrete to cure for 21days before loading it (or 15days at the very least, if you water it constantly and it wont be carrying direct weight).

3) Wrong or Poor Mix Ratio. To get the best strength, each mix of Cement, Sand and Granite follow a particular order, depending of where the Concrete is to be used. If, as l suspect, the Sand is too much, or the Cement is not enough or Water is not enough in the mixture, it may not set properly and will buckle under the weight of the external pressure.

4) Finally, for "Long Walls" that will be under Pressure like the long side walls of a Precast Soak-away, l think it is usually good practice, to institute "Cross Columns" from the inside, at the Centre Precast.

Can l also suggest, as told by my "Bashy Builder" some years back, using STONE DUST in place of Sand, for Concrete Casting, gives a very strong result, I have tested this and found it to be true. With it, your Columns and Beams can be leaner but they are much more stronger.

It was when Artisans needed to Chisel a place, to fix a Door that was made too big by inches but we felt we should not reduce the Door but Chisel the Concrete Wall so it can fit in, that we realized that the Concrete made from that Stone Dust, is like steel, Chisels were just breaking and it showed us pepper. grin


Thank you for your honest and helpful advice without judgement. You’re a gem.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:39pm On May 04
Beframia:

There's this option of using plaster board/gypsum board. Do you have any idea about its usage or is it the same as fiber cement?



Yes, there is also the option for plaster board and gypsum board. Materials wise, plaster board and gypsum board are the same thing to be honest. It is just nomenclatures and semantics. But cement fibre board are remarkably different. These are FINISHED products that offer quick, simple installation.

With cement fibre board, all you need do is your nogging. Take your fibre board and screw it (or follow the manufacturers' recommendation) to your noggings. Joint it and then paint with your choice of colour. Shikena!

Fibre cement offers a quick simple installation at a fraction of the cost in relation to POP installation and gypsum/plaster board. Two people working can complete ceiling boarding a standard 3 bedroom bungalow in one day ready for painting.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:50pm On May 04
michlins:
we come to where the work wants us.

Abuja is a city I actually want to explore

We dey plan something for Warri that is right up your alley after the raining season. By God's Grace.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:54pm On May 04
SurveyorLAS:
Do you handle this, if yes pls let discuss, I im involve in a project in which we are considering ceiling type to be use

I'm not a contractor. I'm just a developer on the side.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:00pm On May 04
diordaves:


We dey plan something for Warri that is right up your alley after the raining season. By God's Grace.
call and I will answer

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lorhema(f): 2:11pm On May 04
diordaves:


I'm not a contractor. I'm just a developer on the side.

Good morning Diordaves.
Please do you know of motorised drilling rigs in Ikorodu, like the Indians operate elsewhere?

Thanks for your response.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jokay07(m): 3:43pm On May 04
My
diordaves:


Yes, there is also the option for plaster board and gypsum board. Materials wise, plaster board and gypsum board are the same thing to be honest. It is just nomenclatures and semantics. But cement fibre board are remarkably different. These are FINISHED products that offer quick, simple installation.

With cement fibre board, all you need do is your nogging. Take your fibre board and screw it (or follow the manufacturers' recommendation) to your noggings. Joint it and then paint with your choice of colour. Shikena!

Fibre cement offers a quick simple installation at a fraction of the cost in relation to POP installation and gypsum/plaster board. Two people working can complete ceiling boarding a standard 3 bedroom bungalow in one day ready for painting.
This firber cement board, is it different from the regular old abestos we used to use?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 4:48pm On May 04
lorhema:


Good morning Diordaves.
Please do you know of motorised drilling rigs in Ikorodu, like the Indians operate elsewhere?

Thanks for your response.

Good afternoon, Madam Honourable. I don't know of any even in the whole of Lagos. I'm not sure, but I think the South West is serviced by the Ibadan drillers.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 5:07pm On May 04
Jokay07:
My
This firber cement board, is it different from the regular old abestos we used to use?

Yes it is different. It is thicker and made mainly from cement mixed with fibre. The fibre infused and thickness means you can work it into organic designs without it breaking easily.

The old asbestos is made purely to a large extent from asbestos which causes cancer. It is so slime (about 0.5mm), that it is difficult to work into organic designs without the risk of breakage. You can only achieve geometric designs (four corner).

However, in terms of FINISHED product, yes they are both the same.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:05pm On May 04
speak2bella:
Hello people, please I need your honest advice on how to remedy this sockaway project. The person is trying to build a precast sockaway because the soil is sandy. However, while trying to dig the ground so the precast sinks down, it cracked and why trying to figure that out, the side starts to compress.

I will be in the comment section to read your honest advice. Many thanks great minds.

Hi.
First I read a comment where sm1 said you shd break... DON'T.

2, the shape of the soak-away don't matter, so don't worry about the bent (converging) side, what you shd be worried about is the cracks and possible leakage.

Solution.

Continue to sink the septic tank until you get to the FINAL POSITION.

Then, see the existing 4 walls of the Septic tank and your EXTERNAL FORMWORK.

Proceed to create internal formwork 150mm thick minimum ALSO reinforced with 12mm rods @ same spacing you used before.

Lastly, cast the new concrete wall and enjoy.

You'll have a wall of about 350mm thick and a slightly smaller internal dimension but no worries....

Keep. Me. Updated. If. You. Need. Further. Help.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:08pm On May 04
Badgers14:


Wahala wahala..

I was just wondering the engineers thought process? As it is now, how do they plan to proceed as their initial plan did not work out?

I am not an engineer myself but maybe that was a wrong approach to begin with?


There are 2 things that wld make it crack.

No1. They didn't wait for the 21 days curing time before they started sinking.

No2. Poor cement mix, but I'll believe it's the 1st because of the nature of the crack.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Billions123: 11:15pm On May 04
I contracted someone to do window design (as seen in picture) for a 5 bedroom bungalow and dude is quoting 780,000 for me. For just window designs oo

Dude thinks I'm a criminal picking money on the floor.

These are the sizes and numbers of windows

900mm*1500mm.... 12
1200mm*1500mm.... 1
900mm*1200mm...... 1
600mm*600mm....... 7

I need someone to give me quote for plastering the 5bd bungalow with these simple window design.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jokay07(m): 2:45am On May 05
diordaves:


Yes it is different. It is thicker and made mainly from cement mixed with fibre. The fibre infused and thickness means you can work it into organic designs without it breaking easily.

The old asbestos is made purely to a large extent from asbestos which causes cancer. It is so slime (about 0.5mm), that it is difficult to work into organic designs without the risk of breakage. You can only achieve geometric designs (four corner).

However, in terms of FINISHED product, yes they are both the same.
Ok.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MBtesfa: 5:10am On May 05

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