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Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by OneCandleAway(f): 7:18am On Sep 14, 2023
DaddyCoool:
At this point anyway. You are absolutely right.
But Tinubu has potential to become the greatest. Just imagine if diasporeams start clamoring to come home under him!
Stop imagining what will never happen. No one will leave a sane society to cone bach to chaos except you're getting into the political class. I know a man that ran back cuz he couldn't cope with Lagos stress, extortion from lastma e.t.c
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:11pm On Sep 14, 2023
Basic123:
Pay attention to your grammar more!
Below is what you wrote. Show the error in mine

Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by Heffalump(m):
yarimo:
Well TINUBU is already greater than anyone in the whole east death or alive
Tinubu can never be like Awolowo. Concentrate on the question. Awolowo was never a Jaguda man. He was a well bread and seasoned political technocrat that worked with civility and progressive mind. Tinubu is a far cry from Awo, quote me any day.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:29pm On Sep 14, 2023
OneCandleAway:
He wants to but can never. In a sane society someone with tinubu background should not even be president. Awolowo uplifted the people. So far Tinubu has only corrupted, brought hardship to everyone
The operative word is "so far". If in time all these his radical, draconian moves actually makes Nigeria a destination country, then he'd be greater than Awolowo.
Don't forget, Awo was never president. PLUS he's one of the past leaders that brought us to this mess. PLUS his famous "starvation is legitimate weapon of war" and £20 policies. PLUS alleged failed coup plotter, who went to jail and ultimately took his own life due to failed coups. PLUS, more tribalist than city boy Tinubu who is also a moslem.
Bottom line, outside Yoruba land, Tinubu can EASILY become greater than Awolowo.
Mynd44, nlfpmod
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by OneCandleAway(f): 1:30pm On Sep 14, 2023
DaddyCoool:
The operative word is "so far". If in time all these his radical, draconian moves actually makes Nigeria a destination country, then he'd be greater than Awolowo.
Don't forget, Awo was never president. PLUS he's one of the past leaders that brought us to this mess. PLUS his famous "starvation is legitimate weapon of war" and £20 policies. PLUS alleged failed coup plotter, who went to jail and ultimately took his own life due to failed coups. PLUS more tribalist than city boy Tinubu who is also a moslem. Bottom line, outside Yoruba land, Tinubu can EASILY become greater than Awolowo.
Mynd44, nlfpmod
Becoming president in Nigeria doesn't make you great. Look at Buhari
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:33pm On Sep 14, 2023
OneCandleAway:
Becoming president in Nigeria doesn't make you great. Look at Buhari
True, but it doesn't hurt either. Hard to be considered the greatest if you've never been C-in-C
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:40pm On Sep 14, 2023
Heffalump:
Tinubu can never be like Awolowo. Concentrate on the question. Awolowo was never a Jaguda man. He was a well bread and seasoned political technocrat what worked with civility and progressive. Tinubu is a far cry from Awo, quote me any day.
See my post below. Add to that the fact that Awo, without any clear explanation how, was mysteriously extremely wealthy!

Don't forget, Awo was never president. PLUS he's one of the past leaders that brought us to this mess. PLUS his famous "starvation is legitimate weapon of war" and £20 policies. PLUS alleged failed coup plotter, who went to jail and ultimately took his own life due to failed coups. PLUS more tribalist than city boy Tinubu who is also a moslem. Bottom line, outside Yoruba land, Tinubu can EASILY become greater than Awolowo.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:47pm On Sep 14, 2023
OneCandleAway:
Stop imagining what will never happen. No one will leave a sane society to cone bach to chaos except you're getting into the political class. I know a man that ran back cuz he couldn't cope with Lagos stress, extortion from lastma e.t.c
Don't be so sure. Some of these countries we're running to were in bad shape not too long ago. If a miracle happens with Tinubu, he definitely has to be considered greater than Awolowo
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by OneCandleAway(f): 1:50pm On Sep 14, 2023
DaddyCoool:
Don't be so sure. Some of these countries we're running to were in bad shape not too long ago. If a miracle happens with Tinubu, he definitely has to be considered greater than Awolowo
Why didn't he curtail the corruption in lagos? Also when you have a dirty past its easy to be blackmailed. He will want to work but most of the people under him are corruption personified. This will affect him.

A lot of corruption acts are loopholes In the system. Can he block it?
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:53pm On Sep 14, 2023
OneCandleAway:
Why didn't he curtail the corruption in lagos? Also when you have a dirty past its easy to be blackmailed. He will want to work but most of the people under him are corruption personified. This will affect him.
You have a point. That's why I said "miracle".
Then again, Awo also became extremely wealthy, with no clear explanation how!
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:44pm On May 07, 2024
yarimo:
Well TINUBU is already greater than anyone in the whole east death or alive
Do u still think so?
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:45pm On May 07, 2024
Acekidc4:
Atleast Tinubu is far greater than Ojukwu and Azikiwe combined!! Shebi we all know that Ojukwu and Azikiwe are South East greatest Politicians ever Lived!! President Tinubu is Greater than Them by a Million Miles
You still think so?
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by ottersberger(m): 5:48pm On May 07, 2024
Both of these men are criminals. One had to forfeit money illegally acquired through drugs trafficking in a foreign jurisdiction, and the other was convicted and imprisoned by Nigeria courts for treasonable felony. Both are convicts.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by Thormentor:
To me o its an insult comparing Microphone licking man who forfeited money to save his ass over drug related crime and A brilliant Nationalist like Awo


Awo is 10000× better than Tinubu

He might not have been a president but his impact was resounding


He literally set Yorubas up for success then


unfortunately Yorubas are now gradually falling off Awos blue print of intense Human Capital Development and industrialization



And Awo is less a tribalist, He facilitated the return if Igbos back to Lagos after the war


To me Awo is amongst the most powerful Yorubas ever!
He's only stain was that he was a Treasonable felon and 20 Nigerian pounds saga
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by T9ksy(m): 6:21pm On May 07, 2024
DaddyCoool:
If Nigeria becomes a major player under him, and diasporeans start clamoring to come home instead of japa, he's automatically the greatest
"IF" being the operative word however Nigeria is not going to be great anytime soon and certainly not under the present administration, whose only objective is to loot the country dead.

No diasporean will clamour to return to Nigeria unless of course, if he or she is a deportee.

Oh BTW, nothing tinubu does will make him ascend the steps to be placed on the same pedestal as Pa Awo. Absolutely nothing.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by T9ksy(m): 6:32pm On May 07, 2024
DaddyCoool:
The operative word is "so far". If in time all these his radical, draconian moves actually makes Nigeria a destination country, then he'd be greater than Awolowo.
Don't forget, Awo was never president. PLUS he's one of the past leaders that brought us to this mess. PLUS his famous "starvation is legitimate weapon of war" and £20 policies. PLUS alleged failed coup plotter, who went to jail and ultimately took his own life due to failed coups. PLUS, more tribalist than city boy Tinubu who is also a moslem.
Bottom line, outside Yoruba land, Tinubu can EASILY become greater than Awolowo.
Mynd44, nlfpmod
can you expantiate on the bolded part, above.

Sadly, authentic yorubas (Omoluabis) don't give a rat's a.r.s.e how great tinubu is outside yorubaland.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 1:58pm On May 08, 2024
Basic123:
Officially, he is already greater!


Awolowo was never a president talkless of being ECOWAS chair, Awolowo will be proud of Tinubu. He was able to achieve What progressives couldn't achieve since 1979.

And one day,another progressive will be greater than TINUBU.
Do you still hold this view?
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 2:03pm On May 08, 2024
T9ksy:
"IF" being the operative word however Nigeria is not going to be great anytime soon and certainly not under the present administration, whose only objective is to loot the country dead.

No diasporean will clamour to return to Nigeria unless of course, if he or she is a deportee.

Oh BTW, nothing tinubu does will make him ascend the steps to be placed on the same pedestal as Pa Awo. Absolutely nothing.
Unfortunately time seems to be proving you right. However I stand by my original post - Tinubu would have been greater if he had managed to turn Nigeria around
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 2:10pm On May 08, 2024
T9ksy:
can you expantiate on the bolded part, above.

Sadly, authentic yorubas (Omoluabis) don't give a rat's a.r.s.e how great tinubu is outside yorubaland.
Really nothing to expatiate {NOT "expantiate"}. If Awo, Zik, etc had played the cards right, we wouldn't be on this mess.
"Omoluabis" would have given a rat's ass if he had turned Nigeria around😎
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 2:15pm On May 08, 2024
yarimo:
Majority of Nigerians wants TINUBU picture should be replaced with the man on # 500 notes immediately
How market? grin
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op):
GeneralPula:
No, Tinubu can not..

Baba Awolowo did a lot of amazing things despite that he was never a president. Take the free education for example: it's one of the greatest thing that's ever happened to Nigeria at large.

So what can tinubu do to beat such?
Well, if Nigeria magically becomes great under him...
Don't forget, Awo was never president. PLUS he's one of the past leaders that brought us to this mess. PLUS his famous "starvation is legitimate weapon of war" and £20 policies. PLUS alleged failed coup plotter, who went to jail and ultimately took his own life due to failed coups. PLUS, more tribalist than city boy Tinubu who is also a moslem.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by T9ksy(m): 3:07pm On May 08, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Really nothing to expatiate {NOT "expantiate"}. If Awo, Zik, etc had played the cards right, we wouldn't be on this mess.
"Omoluabis" would have given a rat's ass if he had turned Nigeria around😎
No one can turn Nigeria around let alone the m.o.rr.ons gallivanting about our political hemisphere like prized peacock, whilst some
are chanting "emilokun".

Tinubu's tenure will be worse than buhari's (now that's saying something) and believe it or not (that's your perogative), his successor will pick up the gauntlet, where tinubu might have left off. The only trajectory is downwards.

You still did not explain how you adjudged Awo as one of those responsible for the extant woes facing the currently. What cards was he dealt with that he failed to play, successfully?

NB: Thanks for the correction.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op):
T9ksy:
No one can turn Nigeria around let alone the m.o.rr.ons gallivanting about our political hemisphere like prized peacock, whilst some
are chanting "emilokun".

Tinubu's tenure will be worse than buhari's (now that's saying something) and believe it or not (that's your perogative), his successor will pick up the gauntlet, where tinubu might have left off. The only trajectory is downwards.

You still did not explain how you adjudged Awo as one of those responsible for the extant woes facing the currently. What cards was he dealt with that he failed to play, successfully?

NB: Thanks for the correction.
U welcome, and thanks 4 graciously accepting the correction.
If Tinubu had removed subsidy without floating Naira it would have been different. But both at once is too much.

For one thing Awo had a chance to end the war by threatening withdrawal of SW, instead he became Mr. "Starvation is a legitimate weapon of war"!
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by Basic123: 4:27pm On May 08, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Do you still hold this view?
Yes
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by Didijiji: 4:29pm On May 08, 2024
yarimo:
Well TINUBU is already greater than anyone in the whole east death or alive
You are 100% right

Greater in all negative indices

He is indeed greater no capping
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 7:20pm On May 08, 2024
Basic123:
Yes
Tinubu is greater than Awo?
Please explain or expatiate
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 7:21pm On May 08, 2024
Didijiji:
You are 100% right

Greater in all negative indices

He is indeed greater no capping
😂
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by Basic123: 9:11pm On May 08, 2024
DaddyCoool:
Tinubu is greater than Awo?
Please explain or expatiate
He achieved what Awo could not achieve politically.

Although awo made an attempt,BAT led the opposition to sack a sitting president and he himself became the president.

In terms of administrative achievement,they are both transformative leaders go's,Lagos to Tinubu,west to Awo.

At presidential level no basis for comparison as Awo never became president.

But we can compare their politics because they are both politicians
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 9:17pm On May 08, 2024
Basic123:
He achieved what Awo could not achieve politically.

Although awo made an attempt,BAT led the opposition to sack a sitting president and he himself became the president.

In terms of administrative achievement,they are both transformative leaders go's,Lagos to Tinubu,west to Awo.

At presidential level no basis for comparison as Awo never became president.

But we can compare their politics because they are both politicians
So a failed president (so far) is greater than a legendary leader who became a tribal demi god?
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by Basic123: 9:21pm On May 08, 2024
DaddyCoool:
So a failed president (so far) is greater than a legendary leader who became a tribal demi god?
You dont know the meaning of greatness!
A slave to a failed former governor of Anambra and a failed president wanna be,failed politician and useless serial political prostitute may not understand what basis of comparison is.
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by DaddyCoool(op): 9:27pm On May 08, 2024
Basic123:
You dont know the meaning of greatness!
A slave to a failed former governor of Anambra and a failed president wanna be,failed politician and useless serial political prostitute may not understand what basis of comparison is.
Meaning of greatness?
OK, let's go to basics. Is Tinubu greater than Proph Muhammed who never became president? Or Soyinka? Or Thomas Edison? Or Ben Franklin? Non of them became president
Re: Can Tinubu Become Greater Than Awo? by T9ksy(m): 12:10am On May 09, 2024
DaddyCoool:
U welcome, and thanks 4 graciously accepting the correction.
If Tinubu had removed subsidy without floating Naira it would have been different. But both at once is too much.

For one thing Awo had a chance to end the war by threatening withdrawal of SW, instead he became Mr. "Starvation is a legitimate weapon of war"!
You are just regurgitating Igbo narratives about the late sage . Awo had no way of stopping that dumb war that Ojukwu (& the fulanis) wanted and got.

Awo's so-called "threat" couldn't have stopped the war as it was made in August 1st, 1966 and to his constituency- western region, whilst the war started in July 1967.

Moreover, what you now referred to as "threat" , your igbo brothers dubbed it, "a gentleman's agreement " between Ojukwu and Awo to which the latter allegedly reneged on and thereafter you lot have been calling Awo, a betrayer and conveniently extend it to his tribesmen, too.


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