advanceDNA:
Which court.??..them no go answer you and court .....and nothing go happen....

They are telling codedly.."shebi our daughter is only good for snacking & baby making but not good for marriage abi??

Na ur punishment be that.....even seff..Dem fit give the kid their family name or the name of new husband the girl go marry...

Pele...u go dey alright

Why Una dey talk as if Una no dey enlightened as regards to legal issues? Ur traditional custom has nothing to do with what is right or wrong in the sight of the law. Those igbo tradition as regards to child custody has been adjudicated in court and it's null and void same as the sharing sof properties by boys in the family.

idahme:



Why Una dey talk as if Una no dey enlightened as regards to legal issues? Ur traditional custom has nothing to do with what is right or wrong in the sight of the law. Those igbo tradition as regards to child custody has been adjudicated in court and it's null and void same as the sharing sof properties by boys in the family.

Where exactly did I say their custom has something to do with the law...I clearly stated that they are just punishing him for not marrying their daughter

muyico:
he just wanna waste his money! until that boy clock 180yrs. b4 he can decide where to stay,!

He isn't wasting his money, what the lady and her people want to do is illegally and the law frowns at it vehemently. No parent has the rights to deprive the other his rights to joint custody wether the person is married to you is immaterial and your customs has nothing to do as regards to this.
He should allow the court to compel the family and if they go against it then he can press a contempt of court proceeding against them

Oracleee:


It's a crime under the law if they do so. They might be jailed for it depending on what charges the prosecutor can put them in. Someone like me can sue them and new husband for kidnapping, conduct likely among others.

It's actually illegal for them to do so, that custom is illegal in the sight of the law.

advanceDNA:


He can't even win by constitution.....judges apply fairness and biasness many times in judgemrnt...

U fvck girl, u say u nor marry, but u want custody of the kid..see wizardry

....I pray the judge is a woman....he will lose custody and be told to pay monthly upkeep he's not paying now according to current inflations figures ..

Just that his son might get to have his name..



Only God knows if the son is his seff.....all this women of nowadays...

I been think say u sabi something before now, Omo I'm disappointed in what you are typing. I understand one can be witty somewhere and a complete novice somewhere else. You are a complete novice concerning legal issues, you talk so ignorantly but exude confidence in your ignorance

You need a lot of education as regards this.

dlawsamesq007:
So, one of my distance cousin, a Yoruba guy impregnated an Igbo lady and she gave birth to a boy. He doesn't want to marry the lady bit want his son but the lady's family are laying claim on the child that the child doesn't belong to him since he doesn't want to marry their daughter.

I understand that it is their culture but the constitution agreed that the child belong to the biological father, he is planning to take them to Court. I want to have ideas of what can be the outcome at the court.

What was in his mind when he was going inn raw, does he want just the child but not the mother, if that's the case, he could as well sign a binding contract and get a lawyer to seal it for them

Anyway, even if he goes to court, tradition or not, the court will grant the child to his mother till he is 18yrs

His case is like, a man that hates yam but loves pounded yam

Advice him to marry her or forget about her and the child

In Ibo custom, the chd doesn't belong to him until he pays her bride price then he can have the child

Paying the bride price means marrying the woman which is just what it means

idahme:



I been think say u sabi something before now, Omo I'm disappointed in what you are typing. I understand one can be witty somewhere and a complete novice somewhere else. You are a complete novice concerning legal issues, you talk so ignorantly but exude confidence in your ignorance

You need a lot of education as regards this.

Then u don't know what I'm saying... be disappointed in ur self

How can u get someone pregnant and want to take the child from her...complaining they ddnt give u ur child.....
... Even two people married to each other....women always get full custody with with visit right given to the man unless there is evidence the childs welfare in question with the mother

advanceDNA:


U are not getting it either .....there is rule of law..there is technicalities, there is discretion and I have seen enough biases in judgement.....unless this nigga can prove his kid is being maltreated or not fed.....no judge will grant him custody....

Ok then.

Oracleee:


Ok then.

As in ...shebi u read his complain??...the nigga said he wants to take the kid ...that they ddnt give him his kid...
he's claiming that by constitution the kid belongs to the father.....as in??

I'm not getting how he thinks the judge will take the kid from the mother and hand it over to him.... Just because he's a man

He stands a good chance of getting shared custody and the child will also bear his name, that's if the woman does not bring up any allegations against him. He definitely cannot get full custody of the child, but my advice is that he should forget the child and move on with his life. He is just a cheap irre$pons$ible $perm donor.

Simple case for the family if they know what to do

Move the kid out of the country

The man will not see him again for 25 years

Come give my sister belle and bring up this kind talk

dlawsamesq007:


They want to give the boy their family name, trying to denying him his right to the boy as his biological father

He should go to the state where he is based and involve the Ministry of Women Affairs and child Development.

LilMissFavvy:
He is just a cheap irre$pons$ible $perm donor.

Why the above? Enlighten me. He didn't say dude refused to take responsibility for the child. As a fact he even wants to take responsibility for his son I believe financial and emotionally. So what qualifies him as the above? Because he didn't want to go the marriage path with the lady? Do they have any valid agreement to tie the knot? Can we call the lady cheap irresponsible baby factory?


You made sense until the above.

Homeboiy:
Simple case for the family if they know what to do

Move the kid out of the country

The man will not see him again for 25 years

Come give my sister belle and bring up this kind talk

If I'm the dude or his lawyer, it makes it interesting and easy. I will jail the lady and every member of her family who knows how the child travelled abroad. As a fact, even the man who received him abroad will get burnt as I will officially petition the country and brand him a kidnapper and child trafficker. They will tell me who signed the right for the boy to be taking abroad and if paper works are shown, it's forgery which is another case on its own.


If only you guys knows the law ehnnnn.


I once witness a case like that. Man and woman never got married, aunty took the child and travelled to UK with man getting to know. Omoh man go police station report for Juvenile welfare centre (JWC). They invited aunty family members back and forth they wanted writing the embassy and matter was suppose to go to court. Aunty abroad was first forming one kind, when they turned up the heat she realized she might loose everything and even get repatriated her family just start dey beg man. Table turn man say e must see him pikin before anything. See begging o even case never even reach court na police station jwc but I suppose the lady got legal advise early. 3 month after aunty had to come home with the child and she was even bailed as she took the child to the station as directed by JWC OC. One woman DSP. Las Las na beg for guy to drop case. I think after a while bro calm down and they reached an agreement on the child rearing.

advanceDNA:


As in ...shebi u read his complain??...the nigga said he wants to take the kid ...that they ddnt give him his kid...
he's claiming that by constitution the kid belongs to the father.....as in??

I'm not getting how he thinks the judge will take the kid from the mother and hand it over to him.... Just because he's a man

He said they are giving the child to another man unless he pays dowry. Even if he wants to take the kid he is still within his jurisdiction as the father. It's left for the court to decide if it's a good idea or shared custody is better. And the court won't decide in favour of the mother or father, it's in favour of the child. I meant what is best for the lad.


Why do you think most of this politician go for hot shot lawyers? They know even though they are guilty, once the lawyer can argue the case well, na sight of common man they guilty, under the law they are innocent. Law says a man is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law, e get why. No be who offend, na who fit prove him case well even if true true e offend. My fiancee was gisting me about a case like that. She's a nurse abroad. Man killed his wife and son and when caught, his lawyer was proving insanity and him not able to stand trial. Man malinger, doctor check am say true true e no dey good frame of mind to stand trial. Back and forth, he was confided in a mental assylum. Who die never die? And Las Las them go release am.

Politician do like e sick to pervert justice, judge know but e must follow rule of law so him self dey powerless.


In short, culture, emotions, sentiments or how I feel have nothing to do with the law. Na what I see as evidence. I give girl Belle say I no marry, we are adults, consenting adults court hand no dey. Maybe judge sef gv girl Belle for school and no marry her. Before I stop, I know of a SAN, a big San o who gv girl Belle but no marry the girl for reasons. But e claim him pikin and till today that he is well known in abeokuta, okeogun and it's environs the pikin dey him hand and e no marry the Mama make that one be judge and the family is claiming e no pay dowry ni.

dlawsamesq007:
So, one of my distance cousin, a Yoruba guy impregnated an Igbo lady and she gave birth to a boy. He doesn't want to marry the lady bit want his son but the lady's family are laying claim on the child that the child doesn't belong to him since he doesn't want to marry their daughter.

I understand that it is their culture but the constitution agreed that the child belong to the biological father, he is planning to take them to Court. I want to have ideas of what can be the outcome at the court.

Is your name on the birth certificate as the father?

In that part of the world, if you don’t pay dowry you cannot lay claims on any child. The child born out of wedlock belongs to the girl’s family and will bear her father’s name.

If you want your son, marry her. If you don’t want to marry her then let go of the child.

Oracleee:


He said they are giving the child to another man unless he pays dowry.

That's another issue....That one is mere threat or bullying to make him marry....when they are not mad..

.he can go to court and surely win shared custody.,unless the kid is not his and they are just deceiving him in the first place

Homeboiy:
Simple case for the family if they know what to do

Move the kid out of the country

The man will not see him again for 25 years

Come give my sister belle and bring up this kind talk

Move wetin out of the country? For pikin wey we never sure say I'm go be better person in future?

Even at that, na so e easy to move person out of the country? As per say na biscuit money we dey talk about here!

UjuJoan2:


Is your name on the birth certificate as the father?

In that part of the world, if you don’t pay dowry you cannot lay claims on any child. The child born out of wedlock belongs to the girl’s family and will bear her father’s name.

If you want your son, marry her. If you don’t want to marry her then let go of the child.

It's a wrong tradition.

The child belongs to both parents. Did the family impregnate their daughter?

Not court will grant him the sole custody of the boy, unless under certain circumstances, but he doesn't have to marry the lady to be involved in his son's life.

There is culture and their is law. Law is above cultret.

Oracleee:


If I'm the dude or his lawyer, it makes it interesting and easy. I will jail the lady and every member of her family who knows how the child travelled abroad. As a fact, even the man who received him abroad will get burnt as I will officially petition the country and brand him a kidnapper and child trafficker. They will tell me who signed the right for the boy to be taking abroad and if paper works are shown, it's forgery which is another case on its own.


If only you guys knows the law ehnnnn.


I once witness a case like that. Man and woman never got married, aunty took the child and travelled to UK with man getting to know. Omoh man go police station report for Juvenile welfare centre (JWC). They invited aunty family members back and forth they wanted writing the embassy and matter was suppose to go to court. Aunty abroad was first forming one kind, when they turned up the heat she realized she might loose everything and even get repatriated her family just start dey beg man. Table turn man say e must see him pikin before anything. See begging o even case never even reach court na police station jwc but I suppose the lady got legal advise early. 3 month after aunty had to come home with the child and she was even bailed as she took the child to the station as directed by JWC OC. One woman DSP. Las Las na beg for guy to drop case. I think after a while bro calm down and they reached an agreement on the child rearing.

Bros ehn! We have very uninformed people here o. It's like majority are typing from the remote part of their villages.

They are saying it as if the guy raped her.

Imagine having to rear a child alone when you can do it with his father because of one tradition that was made by probably an uneducated folk many years ago.

Always funny when I see people ready to do anything for part of their culture that puts them in bondage.

Karleb:


Bros ehn! We have very uninformed people here o. It's like majority are typing from the remote part of their villages.

They are saying it as if the guy raped her.

Imagine having to rear a child alone when you can do it with his father because of one tradition that was made by probably an uneducated folk many years ago.

Always funny when I see people ready to do anything for part of their culture that puts them in bondage.

It's really a pity how people ain't aware and still not ready to under what the Constitution says.

Sharpsharp00123:
oga it’s a big lie

A judge in ondo state declared that culture as barbaric n gave the child to the father

Let me find d news for u

https://www.nairaland.com/7968127/akure-magistrate-judge-condemns-igbo#127908859

The Judge para for the matter no be small.

Don't let anyone decieve you into court cases regards child custody. If it's Lagos state you won't win. But the only thing you can do is to fight for visitation rights.

NO court in Lagos will give you custody after 7 years. The mother will have custody of the child till he is 18years old.

Be ready to pay child support up to 25% of your income. Best thing is let them be and just be calm not desperate everything will work well later.

Jeferious:
Move wetin out of the country? For pikin wey we never sure say I'm go be better person in future?
Even at that, na so e easy to move person out of the country? As per say na biscuit money we dey talk about here!

In Nigeria, it is very easy to move humans out of the country. Every day, children are kidnapped across the borders with most of you not even batting an eye at that.

Oracleee:


He should get a good lawyer. As long as they summon them and his lawyer is good, failure to appear will bring them to comtempt and they might be jailed up to a 100 days or so.

You get energy o. There is a category of people you shouldn't even waste your energy on.

Oracleee:


If I'm the dude or his lawyer, it makes it interesting and easy. I will jail the lady and every member of her family who knows how the child travelled abroad. As a fact, even the man who received him abroad will get burnt as I will officially petition the country and brand him a kidnapper and child trafficker. They will tell me who signed the right for the boy to be taking abroad and if paper works are shown, it's forgery which is another case on its own.


If only you guys knows the law ehnnnn.


I once witness a case like that. Man and woman never got married, aunty took the child and travelled to UK with man getting to know. Omoh man go police station report for Juvenile welfare centre (JWC). They invited aunty family members back and forth they wanted writing the embassy and matter was suppose to go to court. Aunty abroad was first forming one kind, when they turned up the heat she realized she might loose everything and even get repatriated her family just start dey beg man. Table turn man say e must see him pikin before anything. See begging o even case never even reach court na police station jwc but I suppose the lady got legal advise early. 3 month after aunty had to come home with the child and she was even bailed as she took the child to the station as directed by JWC OC. One woman DSP. Las Las na beg for guy to drop case. I think after a while bro calm down and they reached an agreement on the child rearing.

Be like na only me and you and a few others sabi interprete The Child Rights Act for this NL o.

Karleb:


It's a wrong tradition.

The child belongs to both parents. Did the family impregnate their daughter?

Not court will grant him the sole custody of the boy, unless under certain circumstances, but he doesn't have to marry the lady to be involved in his son's life.

There is culture and their is law. Law is above cultret.

Impregnating someone doesn’t make you a father, else all sperm donors can lay claims to their offspring’s.

The culture was set up to protect women from being abandoned in pregnancy and it has worked for them. You have no right to judge people and their beliefs and culture!

UjuJoan2:


Impregnating someone doesn’t make you a father, else all sperm donors can lay claims to their offspring’s.

The culture was set up to protect women from being abandoned in pregnancy and it has worked for them. You have no right to judge people and their beliefs and culture!

So now that he wants to father his son, why stop him?

If it has been working then why is this dude not paying the lady's bride price?

The correct tradition would be to ostracize women who gets pregnant out of wedlock, don't you see how it hurts the child more than the lady that willing had sex with a man that isn't her husband?

The culture is wrong and archaic, it should be abandoned.

I have every right to judge what is wrong, whether it's your culture or not, that one no consign me.

dacool1:
Don't let anyone decieve you into court cases regards child custody. If it's Lagos state you won't win. But the only thing you can do is to fight for visitation rights.

NO court in Lagos will give you custody after 7 years. The mother will have custody of the child till he is 18years old.

Be ready to pay child support up to 25% of your income. Best thing is let them be and just be calm not desperate everything will work well later.

I really don't get when men gets scared of child support. Is the child not yours?

Na wa o.

Sharpsharp00123:
oga it’s a big lie

A judge in ondo state declared that culture as barbaric n gave the child to the father

Let me find d news for u

https://www.nairaland.com/7968127/akure-magistrate-judge-condemns-igbo#127908859

You are lying they family refused to release the child.

Research again you will find the news!!

Sharpsharp00123:
oga it’s a big lie

A judge in ondo state declared that culture as barbaric n gave the child to the father

Let me find d news for u

https://www.nairaland.com/7968127/akure-magistrate-judge-condemns-igbo#127908859

Yet the same judge want him to answer the father's surname which is equally a cultural thing?
Or, did the Nigerian constitution tell you a child must answer his father's name?
The mum is what?
An incubator?
Instead of asking for joint custody, you are here yapping nonsense.


I remember davido and chioma very well.
Davido did introduction and disappeared thinking its just like his culture. Go and pay pride price, no way. Pikin was born, davido just dey dull until piking die.
Chioma people said pikin belong to them 100% and must be buried at chioma father's compound.
A slap to davido and family face. Case was about to go public until elders waded in and it was agreed davido will do the necessary before he will be allowed to bury the corpse as the father of the child. Yes, governors were involved. That is how deep culture is. Respect people's culture.
Davido did overnight court marriage and paid bride price. The shame would have been too much for his family.
The elders know what culture means.


This is exactly what is going on with ffk. When those kids grow, they will automatically go to the mum. Nobody will even tell them they don't belong to ffk as long as he did not marry their mum. It is a must. Go to igboland and see so many that returned as adults and were welcomed with open arm.

Igbo culture had been protecting young ladies from the generation of our forefathers and we are not complaining. You want the child, do the needful.

Imagine going to the north to yarn this nonsense, who will listen to the judge.

UjuJoan2:


Impregnating someone doesn’t make you a father, else all sperm donors can lay claims to their offspring’s.

The culture was set up to protect women from being abandoned in pregnancy and it has worked for them. You have no right to judge people and their beliefs and culture!

Thank you uju.
Uou see, people from some other tribes especially yoruba people think you can just come and whisk a child away because you donated sperm.
Even if you give belle to a married woman while your wife is struggling to have a child, you will never smell that child. That is igbo culture.
You give birth to children, train them without paying pride price, even if it is 10naira, those children belong to the father of that woman.
They should deal with it.
So hard to swallow but we value our girls a lot to allow anybody who give them belle, abandon and shame them to turn around to come claim the child. He is simply a sperm donor. Full stop.